TwoCat SuperTracker 1 (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=t-o-T9tuZJ8#)
Yes, I know I made two, possibly three, mistakes. I also missed a bet due to the clicker fighting with the screen capture software, so it all evened out!
referring to your video: everybody wants to know. :thumbsup:
detailed video and information appreciated!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 07, 11:41 PM 2013
TwoCat SuperTracker 1 (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=t-o-T9tuZJ8#)
I would like to try this tracker. download from here?
Guys
I'm so tired my brain is not functioning. I will make a really good movie next week and explain everything in great detail. ignatus has poo-pooed me, so I'm out to get him!!
Sorry, ol' bean, the tracker is not free. I designed it and Normy2000 built it. Contact him.
TO ANYONE WHO BUYS: I don't make a penny from this. Programmers deserve to be paid. If I could program, I'd darn sure not do it for free.
Sam
Guys
Here is the first video. (I have deleted the other one.) More will follow as soon as some people gather at the Dublin table. There is no way I can play this when the wheel spins every 30 seconds or so.
TwoCat SuperTracker Video 1 (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=a8f0X-E3Bpw#)
Great video Sam! And great explanation too. Looking forward to the 2nd video :smile:
Sam
I have had a beast of a time trying to get my WM Capture software to work. I have had to slow it down to five frames per second, which causes it to be a little jerky, but it works.
The second video is on it's way. I must wait for the table to busy. Too darn fast when no one is there.
Sam
TwoCat SuperTracker Video 2 (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=yRQjAqzBE4o#ws)
sam in your video you made mistake in entering history..when hit 1,33,31 you entered 35 but had to be 31 as 31 hit.. :thumbsup: 9:49 on your video
maestro
Finding a mistake in my work is like finding and egg in the hen house. Yep, they are there. Some of them I catch; some I don't. Sometimes my mistakes pay off so it's sort of a push.
I find it amusing that no one chooses to comment or ask about the hit rate of this system. No one is even the slightest bit impressed with someone who can win over 100 Euro in thirty minutes or so. No one cares to talk about the idea behind the system.
But make one little mistake...................
I just love it!!
Sam
well sam sorry if i sounded as @ssole...just thought would be help...about your system i think no one ask such questions as strike rate and triggers is maybe because yourself are on the learning curve and testing different situations...any way good luck..like the video :thumbsup:
maestro
No problem. I guess I was a bit harsh. Sorry.
As to the way this idea works, I've finished with it. There is no more to do but play. It is far easier to play and not explain yourself as you go. It is far easier to play when the recorder is not in a fight with the clicker/tracker.
Sam
just quick question then sam, ^-^ regarding way you play,say you split distances into 1 digit that would be from 1-9 distance and 2 digit distances and say you have CW and CCW run of 2 digit distances can you play then for single digit distance to come and would not be less numbers bet and what would be longest run of 2 digit distances for both CW and CCW..
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 12, 10:36 AM 2013
I find it amusing that no one chooses to comment or ask about the hit rate of this system. No one is even the slightest bit impressed with someone who can win over 100 Euro in thirty minutes or so. No one cares to talk about the idea behind the system.
Well, i'm definitely impressed by your results Sam, but i'm more of a silent type. I read more then I say anything. I'm even gonna ask Normy how much he charges for the tracker/clicker.
Refering to the first video,
You can also look at it this way...
Last 4 movements CW was 35 (or -2), 2, 34 (or -3) and 36 (or -1).
So the average would be -1. So i would target 26...
Am i thinking the right way Sam?
Normy
You're exactly right, but please understand this was a silly example you'd probably never see. I would have bet three times in that list you gave.
Sam
maestro
If my video didn't explain it, I'm at a loss. As to the longest streak of losses: I went up to 8 once and got back to profit.
If you start at point A and pass point A and land on C, you have moved ahead two spaces. That's the way I look at it. When the dealer throws two that are very close in DISTANCE GAINED OR LOST, that is a bet for me.
I am working on a way to make a better video.
Sam
Hi Sam,
inspired by your videos , I have the same setup as yours. But I still mess up with the distace calculation.
For instance when CW 26 goes to 0 ?!? Does that mean bet number 26 CW or bet number same (37) ?!?
Other than that its a lot of fun when you did the calculation right, got the betting in time , with the right chipssize and then got a HIT !!!
Maybe Normy could automate the calculation sequence and give a CW or CCW prediction ?!? Normy ;)
Ray
Quote from: rayhd63 on Feb 12, 05:19 PM 2013
Hi Sam,
inspired by your videos , I have the same setup as yours. But I still mess up with the distace calculation.
For instance when CW 26 goes to 0 ?!? Does that mean bet number 26 CW or bet number same (37) ?!?
Other than that its a lot of fun when you did the calculation right, got the betting in time , with the right chipssize and then got a HIT !!!
Maybe Normy could automate the calculation sequence and give a CW or CCW prediction ?!? Normy ;)
Ray
I've watched this and thought the same thing...why does the tracker not tell you what the prediction is....sam missed a few bets counting round.
On this subject, I am convinced casinos are spinning the wheel rotation faster than they used to.
Live dealers do online. I mean the rotation of the wheel as the ball is flying around the oposite direction.
I've noticed a side effect of this rotation being faster. For one, look at the latvian casino that playtech uses for many online casino live dealer play. There are many X on the marquee which denotes a no spin. This is inveriably when the ball leaves the wheel altogether.
The ball left the wheel in my casino recently and the pit boss told the dealer she had the wheel rotating too fast.
Another side effect is that the ball tends to ping off the pocket edges more and land much futher round. Another side effect of a fast rotation is that the ball sometimes travels around the numbers for several rotations before hitting a pocket, meaning, it spins, it passes the diamond, but travels round the numbers without hitting a pocket.
All these mess up VB. I truely believe online live dealer has added "faster rotor speed" to add to "no bet after spin", "varying spin speed" CW and CCW every spin. All tools to completly elliminate any VB or ball prediction of any kind.
Airball seems faster too, but they care not about balls leaving the wheel due to the glass dome.
Just an observation.
Turner
No its a fact that since like 2 months the lativia live casino is using way higher wheel speeds.
Also compare it to dublinbet, i only did see ball out of wheel like 2 times in 3 months. In the lativia casino its like almost 8x a day, even had 1 dealer manage to get ball out of wheel 3x in 1 session...
Guys
I wrote Normy a long narrative on just what I wanted. At the time I had him do that, I did not fully understand how I would use it. I want it for the day the U.S. casinos go on line as many of them are 00 wheels and spin clockwise all the time. I've watched dealers spin with almost no variation in their distances.
Ray
Sorry, bro, I don't understand the question. If you give me a string of numbers, I'll put them in and tell you what I see. Do you mean he hit 26 and then zero? Won't work as it must have a spin in between.
ccw......pick it up
cw......lands on 0
ccw......pick it up
cw........lands on 26
I would say he went -1 further than he did the time before.
ccw........say this number is 10. He is going to go -1 from 10 or 5. 5 is my point number.
Sam
Oh, and by the way........
I logged onto Celtic Casino to see their wheel. They way they spin, this software is useless.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 12, 06:45 PM 2013
Oh, and by the way........
I logged onto Celtic Casino to see their wheel. They way they spin, this software is useless.
Sam
True, they are all pretty nice to look at ;D , but not to play against... :-X
When you analyse the way they spins, look like they are on ACID! :lol:
Hi Sam,
just have to show you that.
Before Scott came, I played while Lorna was throwing. Just look how many time she hits the same sector CW and CCW
I think its a good thing to bet when Lorna is throwing !!
Ray
I too have a soft spot for Lorna.
For starters, Lorna was my grandmother’s name on my mother’s side, and she was a miracle woman black Irish gypsy, God love her.
Then there is her impeccable youthful posture, her glorious golden locks of hair, and her young lassie puckered up titties that are always just in view no matter what the camera angle around the table.
:love: ^-^
Quote from: rayhd63 on Feb 13, 05:46 AM 2013
I think its a good thing to bet when Lorna is throwing !!
Ray,
If you want to keep record of all Dealears,
i started a Dealers follow-up Excel sheet last week where you can note dealer's accuracy.
There is about 20 of them for now, just keep adding any dealers not present.
Feel free to use it.
Ray
Yes, that looks great!
You realize calling them "sectors" is a bit of a misnomer as they actually distances traveled.
Example:
ccw 0
cw 32 DT=1
ccw 10
cw 5 DT=1
ccw 17
Now, if you bet for the ball to move one further, you point number would be 34. As you can see, each spin was 90 degrees from each other.
Normy
Thanks for the Dealer Archive.
Sam
Quoteand her young lassie puckered up titties
Skakus , Titties ?!? Titties !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gee there is one relaxed rouletteplayer. :LoL:
To be honest, I am looking at the darn ball and the spinning wheel !
Maybe one day I 'm a relaxed player and have an eye for the Ladies ;)
Now I'm anxious to see Lorna again.... :twisted:
Ray
Thanks Normy :thumbsup:
Now I have to figure out the accuracy :)
Calculating calculating calcu.... :P
Ray
Next phaze for my bot, looking for dealer hot nbrs.
If you have this for 1 dealer of 450 spins.
What nbrs would you bet... and win
Check the nbr of its in the second image, data of current (last) session..
Spin
So you're saying collect 450 spins from one dealer? This will be several times at the table, no? No dealer stays 450 spins!
So this dealer spins hot numbers over a couple or three days?
Is that it?
Sam
Quote from: rayhd63 on Feb 13, 11:25 AM 2013
Thanks Normy :thumbsup:
Now I have to figure out the accuracy :)
Calculating calculating calcu.... :P
Ray
Hihi, just go aproximative! Like Lorna was a lot better on CCW side, so note her 90% on CCW and around 40% on CW.
As for calculation on the wheel, keep a picture of the wheel on your desk (attached).
For very quick counting, slit the wheel in 4,
a quarter of the wheel is + or - 9, half wheel is + 18.
Say you have to go +15CW and you are at 0, check right under 0 = 10,
then move 3 to the right = 30 (only 3 pockets to count unstead of 15)
Hope this help...
br, Normy
Just had a very good run with this. I am making a mistake on something. Will figure it out and post answer.
Think i found a solution for counting distance. 8)
1- Print the attached picture twice.
2- With scissors, cut the outer circle of the wheel on one of the 2 printed picture
3- Place the cutted wheel on top of the other one, put a needle in the center of the wheel!
4- turn the whell to place the last spun number at the top and...
... and you got yourself a Home made Distance calculator! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I really want to thank you again for your great explanation video's Sam!
Have watched them again today and I have to say that I'm finally getting an understanding of how it works.
And with the great work of Normy I now have the tracker & clicker installed on my computer and it is working flawlessly.
SamNL
You're welcome.
Normy
Hot darn, feller, you done invented a "Redneck Tracker".
Thanks!!
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 13, 04:06 PM 2013
Normy
Hot darn, feller, you done invented a "Redneck Tracker".
With technology, you can do anything! ;)
Quote from: SamNL on Feb 13, 03:44 PM 2013
I really want to thank you again for your great explanation video's Sam!
Have watched them again today and I have to say that I'm finally getting an understanding of how it works.
And with the great work of Normy I now have the tracker & clicker installed on my computer and it is working flawlessly.
I want to thank you too Sam(NL),
Now i know the soft. work on Windows 8 too. :thumbsup:
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 13, 12:21 PM 2013
Spin
So you're saying collect 450 spins from one dealer? This will be several times at the table, no? No dealer stays 450 spins!
So this dealer spins hot numbers over a couple or three days?
Is that it?
Sam
Hi Sam, first image is indeed a collection of multiple session of 1 dealer.
The second image if of his last (current session) How has 8 hits on his hot nmbrs
Quote from: Normy2000 on Feb 13, 04:49 PM 2013
I want to thank you too Sam(NL),
Now i know the soft. work on Windows 8 too. :thumbsup:
No problemo Normy.
QuoteHome made Distance calculator
Normy :D
Voila, Superb :thumbsup:
Ray
Does it remind you of the first year at school?
We where doing the same thing to make thing move, no? 8)
[edit]I just try it, it work!? :thumbsup: ![edit]
I know this is a very simple solution for counting,
but every body can afford it, so every body's happy! :D
Now, about a prediction indication (been asked),
for a system, it would be easy to find an equation
that would give us a nice indication,
and even place bets accordingly as a full Bot would do. :)
But a wise solution would be a lot of work here as this is not a system,
it's a method, and a method need judgment from the player (like GUT method). :ooh:
By judgment, i mean:
How many spins are we keeping to make an average? 2, 3,4,may be 5,may be more? :question:
In those last 2,3,4,may be 5,may be more spins, how many of them was good spins? :question:
if you see a bad spin because the dealer was speaking with somebody,
you will take that particular spin off the average of the few last spins... :question:
A bot would not see that event...
if you see a bad spin because the ball hit a diamond anormaly,
you will take that particular spin off the average of the few last spins... :question:
A bot would not see that event...
So, for now, i suggest we play this method manualy, with our judgment,
until we find a better way. Just my 2 cents. 8)
best, nOrMy2o0o
[edit]Sorry for my FrenchGlish[edit] :P
Normy how can I get the tracker?
wedding, pm me please.
Hi all,
For those who are not very manual, here is a software version of the Displacement Calculator. 8)
DisplacementCalculator (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=tsE-c5ckqU4#)
Enjoy, Normy
For those who has downloaded it, re-download it please,
i forgot to include the image of the wheel, sorry... :-[
... and let me know if it work on Win7.
br, Normy
hi normy,
for me it is not working under win7.
the wheel doesnt rotate.
Did you just download it, or download from this morning?
redownload 5 minutes ago.
Quote from: RFMAXX on Feb 17, 01:44 PM 2013
hi normy,
for me it is not working under win7.
the wheel doesn't rotate.
Hi and thanks Normy.
It is not working for me (W7)
Cheers.
Humm, sorry about this!
The only 2 files needed are:
gdi32.dll and
gdiplus.dll
i tought they were allready on all PC.
Try to find and install these 2 files for your system (32bits or 64 bits).
1. Download the file GDIPLUS.DLL (link:://:.dlldump.com/dllfiles/G/GDIPLUS.DLL) to your desktop.
2. Move the dll file to the program directory missing the file.
3. If step 2 doesn't work. Move the file GDIPLUS.DLL to the system directory.
- C:\Windows\System (Windows 95/98/Me)
- C:\WINNT\System32 (Windows NT/2000)
- C:\Windows\System32 (Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7)
For further help installing GDIPLUS.DLL Click Here (link:://:.dlldump.com/dllhelp.html)
[edit] I just add them in the .zip files (Win XP 32 bits version)[edit]
It should fix the problem.
OK, i added the missing files in the .ZIP attached to this post,
forget the zip in Reply #45.
Cheers, Normy
thank you normy.
now it works under win7 64 bit.
Thanks Normy.
Works for me - W7 64
Works for me on W8
Perfect!
Do you think we can bring it to a casino on a I-Pad :question:
Quote from: Normy2000 on Feb 18, 03:53 PM 2013
Perfect!
Do you think we can bring it to a casino on a I-Pad :question:
or iphone, smaller in size. but i think it will not be allowed at the end.
but we can print out your wheel for hand tracking.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 12, 12:22 AM 2013
TwoCat SuperTracker Video 2 (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=yRQjAqzBE4o#ws)
Dear Sam and all,
I managed to get the system into excel, but from the first tests, it doesn`t look well.
Please let me know the Number selection procedure (the one you select on the software) so i can implement it on the tracker.
I will share with you all the excel file after that.
What i tried is: bet selection with 7 or less pockets difference.
for ex 21 27 next bet 33 th pocket or
35 5 next bet 12th pocket
+ 1 unit on lose
-1 unit on win
Max progression : step 77
cwWins 16489
Losses 15734
ccwWins 16537
Losses 15685
CW
Loss:-35122 (1 unit bet)
Total spins: 64450
-0,544949573 units lost per spin
Lets give this system a proper test.
See attached txt file with the numbers that the tracker selects.
Regards,
Alex
pro
The way my mind designed this one could never test it with Excel or play it with a robot. A human must be present making objective decisions as to when to bet or sit out.
One has to watch the dealer closely. Does he spin naturally, by muscle memory? Or does he toss the ball after pausing for one second? That will change the outcome. Hitting a deflector or a bad bounce will, too.
I've done this so much in testing, I'm confident it can work. However, it is up to the individual to make it work.
Sam
Here's how to switch tables.Dublin Setup (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=rJWB5bxodnY#)
Fabulous video presentation Sam.
U really explain things very clearly indeed.......well done. :thumbsup:
From ur 'Pivot Point' how main numbers each side do u bet/play Sam?
And do u have an allowance bias that can be adjusted to take effect of DS
and, say, play more numbers one side of the pivot and less on the other side, still aiming at a central Pivot Point?
C
Thanks, Chris
I play 19 numbers, 9 on either side. You can shrink it down to your liking. Normy could program it to do whatever you want, I'm sure.
It wins the way it is; I'm happy!
If I weren't so tired, I'd play.
Sam
Very nice explanation Sam, you really are a video master! ;D
Just to make thing clear, this last video show how you how to setup a new casino.
TIPS:
If you only change table for higher stake and stay at Dublin,
no need to re-record all the location of the numbers and units, they are the same.
The 2 only thing to change are the unit value description and the name of the windows and it will work fine.
Thanks again.
regards, normy
NOrmy
Before I made the video I discovered just what you said. Didn't quite know what to do, so I did what I did.
Thanks, Normy.
Know why I love makin' videos??? The wife can't cut me off! :-X
Sam
@ all those using this SuperTracker kit,
if you have any problems using the clicker on the new Dublinbet sotware,
try slowing down the clicking speed to 90 or 100 msec. in the setup page.
Then click the [Play] button to verify if all 37 locations are well placed.
This should solve the problem. :thumbsup:
Have a great week-end everyone!
U have a great weekend too Normy ! 8)
Thank you for all Ur help that U offer here in forum. :thumbsup:
Go to reply #5. I messed up the first video and deleted it