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Title: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 06:50 AM 2013
Pure, unadulterated, prime cut, no nonsense, warts and all, unashamedly voodoo.

Lay the dozens out in two columns

When a 1 spins, bet for 3
When a 3 spins, bet for 1
When a 2 spins, bet for 2

Eg

1 3 win
3 2 loss
2 1 loss
2 1 loss
3 1 win
2 3 loss
1 1 loss
2 2 win
3 2 loss
1 3 win

Etc

This flies in the face of technical, minutely thought out bet selection and instead relies on roulette fairies and magic. Oh, and smart MM

Try 111222333444555666

On a win move back 2, on a loss move up 1
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: atlantis on Feb 22, 06:55 AM 2013
Hi BW,
What's your longest streak of L's ?
A.
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 07:27 AM 2013
7 so far A,

Quick and easy to test, especially on Random.org
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: joiner29 on Feb 22, 07:59 AM 2013
Could you explain a little more how to bet
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: soggett on Feb 22, 08:04 AM 2013
quick test
53 spins
flatbetting +10
your progression +17
7 L's in a row max
6 W's in a row max

not to shabby :thumbsup:

edit:

test 2
80 spins
flatbet +12
your progression +20
:thumbsup:

Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 08:15 AM 2013
Soggett,
You are the testing supremo, I'm waiting for the inevitable collapse though!
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: soggett on Feb 22, 08:26 AM 2013
Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 08:15 AM 2013
Soggett,
You are the testing supremo, I'm waiting for the inevitable collapse though!

thank you  ;D

quick test 200 spins, a rough one
flatbetting ended +4
your progression +25
highest bet was 8 units
I had just 2 wins in 29 bets at one point so it went pretty high, max DD was 99 units
but it came back really well
question, should we reset the progression when in plus or even?
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: warrior on Feb 22, 08:27 AM 2013
I think we lose because we creat in our minds that it will lose in the end ,we need to change how we think.if we set up in our minds with a system that we will win ex. 3 units every time ,our subconcious will exept that as the truth it can work try it .
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 08:30 AM 2013
Quote from: warrior on Feb 22, 08:27 AM 2013
I think we lose because we creat in our minds that it will lose in the end ,we need to change how we think.if we set up in our minds with a system that we will win ex. 3 units every time ,our subconcious,will exept that as the truth it can work try it .

So you mean set conservative stops. +3 then get out?
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: warrior on Feb 22, 08:35 AM 2013
Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 08:30 AM 2013
So you mean set conservative stops. +3 then get out?
Yes thats the second part ,the first part starts in your mind, think winner ,we all do it we sabatoge all the time.
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 08:51 AM 2013
Quote from: soggett on Feb 22, 08:26 AM 2013

thank you  ;D

quick test 200 spins, a rough one
flatbetting ended +4
your progression +25
highest bet was 8 units
I had just 2 wins in 29 bets at one point so it went pretty high, max DD was 99 units
but it came back really well
question, should we reset the progression when in plus or even?

That's a comeback! 2 wins in 29 is a major rough spell but great that it dug itself out. I would reset in case of back to back bad streaks.
Thanks for the continued testing mate
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: joiner29 on Feb 22, 08:53 AM 2013
Could you explain in more detail
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 08:59 AM 2013
Quote from: joiner29 on Feb 22, 08:53 AM 2013
Could you explain in more detail

Yes sorry Joiner,
For clarity, lay out dozens in two columns as they come out

1 3
2 2 for example

Every time dozen 1 comes out, bet dozen 3
Every time dozen 3 comes out, bet dozen 1
Every time dozen 2 comes out, bet dozen 2

It should look a bit like this

2 3
3 3
1 2
2 3
1 3 etc
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: probasah on Feb 22, 09:06 AM 2013
Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 06:50 AM 2013
Pure, unadulterated, prime cut, no nonsense, warts and all, unashamedly voodoo.

Lay the dozens out in two columns

When a 1 spins, bet for 3
When a 3 spins, bet for 1
When a 2 spins, bet for 2

e.g.

1 3 win
3 2 loss
2 1 loss
2 1 loss
3 1 win
2 3 loss
1 1 loss
2 2 win
3 2 loss
1 3 win

Etc

This flies in the face of technical, minutely thought out bet selection and instead relies on roulette fairies and magic. Oh, and smart MM

Try 111222333444555666

On a win move back 2, on a loss move up 1

Hey BuffaloWizzard

Interesting bet, i will make a tracker later on if you want to, to test the system.

Best Regards,
Alex
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 09:14 AM 2013
Quote from: probasah on Feb 22, 09:06 AM 2013
Hey BuffaloWizzard

Interesting bet, i will make a tracker later on if you want to, to test the system.

Best Regards,
Alex

Thanks Alex that would be grand

It was a bit of a tongue in cheek effort but hey you never know
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: atlantis on Feb 22, 01:27 PM 2013
Well as it is a single doz bet and we are not always betting the same doz then perhaps the mode 4/GLAT (GLC-Atlantis) progression will work ok?

Quote
Each line I will call a set of W/L's.


1.  W   Ends set.  If at a new profit, reset to 1 unit else stay at same bet size and start a new set.


2. LW   Ends Set.  If at a new profit, reset to 1 unit else stay at same bet size and start a new set.


3. LLW   Ends set.  Neutral set.  No bet size change.  Start a new set.


4.  LLLW  Ends set.  -1  Very small loss, so start a new set at same bet size.


5.  LLLLW  Ends set.  -2  Getting into losses, so play next set at +1 unit added to bet size.


6.  LLLLL...W  The 1st W ends set.  Number of L's = 5 or more.  This will keep bet sizes from escalating when we hit our sleeping dozen.  As soon as we have a Win it ends this set and we increase our bet size by +1 unit for next set.




These 6 sets should cover every possibility.  Sets 1 & 2 are our winning sets.


If you find yourself betting a large bet size and you have a few wins in a row, you might consider decreasing your bet size but not all the way back to 1 rather than staying at the same level just in case you're about to go into another losing series.


Quote
1 3 W    +2

3 2 L
2 1 L
2 1 L
3 1 W    +1  (stay at 1)

2 3 L
1 1 L
2 2 W    +1  (stay at 1)

3 2 L
1 3 W    +2  (reset)


A.
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 01:41 PM 2013
I think it's as good a MM as any for the single dozen mate
Good shout- needs more testing so looking forward to Alex's tracker
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: rayhd63 on Feb 22, 03:46 PM 2013
Hi Buff,

here is a tracker that should work as you explained.

Have fun


Ray
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 04:07 PM 2013
That's great Ray, appreciate it mate
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: probasah on Feb 22, 05:55 PM 2013
Hey BW

Finished the tracker using rays progression. Just load up the numbers on the left column green and you are good to go

Regards,
Alex
Title: Re: Advanced Bet for Experts
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 22, 06:08 PM 2013
Quote from: probasah on Feb 22, 05:55 PM 2013
Hey BW

Finished the tracker using rays progression. Just load up the numbers on the left column green and you are good to go

Regards,
Alex


Alex,
What can I say...fantastic! Many thanks, I hope others can get the most out of this too.