Does anyone know a fast way to bets on the table covering the voisins du zero section ?
Using vb I think the hardest part is finding right dealer an wheel, then placing bets in time.
I'm just at this moment testing the water, an where I am it's difficult to just bet the neighbours option because the minimum bet is 45 pounds for voisins an 25 pounds for 5 numbers.
minimum bet is 50p per number on the table.
I notice the pitboss an dealers ears always prick up when someone covers the neighbours options, maybe cause its 25 pounds but I'm not sure.
Thanks
Quote from: strato1985 on Apr 05, 12:36 PM 2013
Does anyone know a fast way to bets on the table covering the voisins du zero section ?
Using vb I think the hardest part is finding right dealer an wheel, then placing bets in time.
I'm just at this moment testing the water, an where I am it's difficult to just bet the neighbours option because the minimum bet is 45 pounds for voisins an 25 pounds for 5 numbers.
minimum bet is 50p per number on the table.
I notice the pitboss an dealers ears always prick up when someone covers the neighbours options, maybe cause its 25 pounds but I'm not sure.
Thanks
You can shout, it is a call bet, some tables have a layout for it.
Are you talking live (B&M) casino or online casino?
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 05, 01:39 PM 2013
Are you talking live (B&M) casino or online casino?
SAM!
VB on a on line casino would be a bit harder than it is on BM.
Oops!
Yeah it's in b&m casino , thing is i cant shout all 7 or 8 splits in time.
I was wondering what vb players do, an example
Street
1, 16 , 19
Corner split 25,26,28,29
Only 4 bet placements does cover a large percentage , with a couple of non voisins du zero's in there.
If you can get a decent read on things to say a ten pocket area , you get at least 3 chances (spins) to still return a profit, but again how do you cover a ten pocket area on the wheel so quick.
Thanks for replies
Quote from: strato1985 on Apr 05, 02:58 PM 2013
Yeah it's in b&m casino , thing is i can't shout all 7 or 8 splits in time.
I was wondering what vb players do, an example
Street
1, 16 , 19
Corner split 25,26,28,29
Only 4 bet placements does cover a large percentage , with a couple of non voisins du zero's in there.
If you can get a decent read on things to say a ten pocket area , you get at least 3 chances (spins) to still return a profit, but again how do you cover a ten pocket area on the wheel so quick.
Thanks for replies
You may have your butler to place some of the the bets at your sign. If the time is short it may be a job for a team.
I know how hard it can be on a busy table, and you can not take position in the middle and still have a good watch.
Quote from: strato1985 on Apr 05, 12:36 PM 2013
Does anyone know a fast way to bets on the table covering the voisins du zero section ?
Using vb I think the hardest part is finding right dealer an wheel, then placing bets in time.
I'm just at this moment testing the water, an where I am it's difficult to just bet the neighbours option because the minimum bet is 45 pounds for voisins an 25 pounds for 5 numbers.
minimum bet is 50p per number on the table.
I notice the pitboss an dealers ears always prick up when someone covers the neighbours options, maybe cause its 25 pounds but I'm not sure.
Thanks
9 chips. 2 chips are placed on the 0,2,3 trio; 1 on the 4/7 split; 1 on 12/15; 1 on 18/21; 1 on 19/22; 2 on 25/26/28/29 corner; and 1 on 32/35.
That's exactly it, space at the table is another one of the challenge's .
I sat down to try an blend in, then the next thing every time the balls spun a man leaps around placing bets covering my view completely.
I think i can read dealers with certain wheels, but everything else is as much of a challenge.
Do most other casino's have such a high neighbours bet minimum 25 pounds for 5 numbers ?
Specially when the minimum is 50 pence on the table, i.e 5 numbers could be 2.50p (pound sign not working)
See I don't actually think it would be that hard in the right situation if I could just call x amount of neighbours.
But saying that as a learner though I don't think I'm that confident to go throwing 500 pounds + around on it. (contradiction)
For instance say my area is 20 - 13 without placing a neighbours bet how would it be done?
I've come to the conclusion i'd have to wait to see a trigger of voisins du zero section an have a fast bet placement method.
On the no bet spins, cover bet the opposite side of the wheel 2 chips to make myself look busy at the table.
Any views on this?
Thanks
Quote from: strato1985 on Apr 05, 05:28 PM 2013
That's exactly it, space at the table is another one of the challenge's .
I sat down to try an blend in, then the next thing every time the balls spun a man leaps around placing bets covering my view completely.
I think i can read dealers with certain wheels, but everything else is as much of a challenge.
Do most other casino's have such a high neighbours bet minimum 25 pounds for 5 numbers ?
Specially when the minimum is 50 pence on the table, i.e 5 numbers could be 2.50p (pound sign not working)
See I don't actually think it would be that hard in the right situation if I could just call x amount of neighbours.
But saying that as a learner though I don't think I'm that confident to go throwing 500 pounds + around on it. (contradiction)
For instance say my area is 20 - 13 without placing a neighbours bet how would it be done?
I've come to the conclusion i'd have to wait to see a trigger of voisins du zero section an have a fast bet placement method.
On the no bet spins, cover bet the opposite side of the wheel 2 chips to make myself look busy at the table.
Any views on this?
Thanks
My view? This kind of betting will ultimatly lose. There is no trigger to suggest which section the ball will land in.
The racetrack is £25 min bet because its an advantage to the player so they put the cost up.
You don't have to look busy on a no bet. They arnt worried. They arnt watching you.
They love voison bets and je zero and tiers and orphalins. that's why they invented them.
They love streets and lines and dozens ...red, black, high low. that's why they invented them
As soon as you bet on a set of rigid numbers that don't relate to anything and stick with those patterns. You are dead.
As I said to begin....just my view.
I see so they know they will win and are not worried at all .
They charge 25 pounds minimum on the neighbours bet because their is an advantage to the player.
I see that cleared everything up hey.........
Quote from: strato1985 on Apr 06, 09:31 AM 2013
I see so they know they will win and are not worried at all .
They charge 25 pounds minimum on the neighbours bet because their is an advantage to the player.
I see that cleared everything up hey.........
You did ask. What would like me to say?
The most and largest loses I,ev seen in my 100/lol/years of spinning&playing are on Voisons.
Imagine 54 spins without it......yes it happened on DB last year while Chinese guy lost fortune.
At the time was testing LvF and seen it with my eyes.
Quote from: teo on Apr 06, 01:21 PM 2013
The most and largest loses I,ev seen in my 100/LoL/years of spinning&playing are on Voisons.
Imagine 54 spins without it......yes it happened on DB last year while Chinese guy lost fortune.
At the time was testing LvF and seen it with my eyes.
Thats a hell of a lot of sleeps for an EC bet. 24 is around max for EC, and Voisons is 1 less than an EC bet (17 numbers), so 25-30 spins possible with sleep.
54 spins without a hit. Poor guy must of thought he was dreaming.
Quote from: teo on Apr 06, 01:21 PM 2013
The most and largest loses I,ev seen in my 100/LoL/years of spinning&playing are on Voisons.
Imagine 54 spins without it......yes it happened on DB last year while Chinese guy lost fortune.
At the time was testing LvF and seen it with my eyes.
Sure it did,your saying 20 numbers repeat for 54 spin ,the dealers change every 20 to half hour, so for that reason they dont get into the robotic hand that happens to all of them,the most on 24 numbers i have seen miss is 10 in row .in my last 200 years .
Quote from: teo on Apr 06, 01:21 PM 2013
The most and largest loses I,ev seen in my 100/LoL/years of spinning&playing are on Voisons.
Imagine 54 spins without it......yes it happened on DB last year while Chinese guy lost fortune.
At the time was testing LvF and seen it with my eyes.
It is so rare, it must have been in the news. It is more unlikely than the black record which has stand for about 100 years.
Quote from: warrior on Apr 07, 10:10 AM 2013
Sure it did,your saying 20 numbers repeat for 54 spin ,the dealers change every 20 to half hour, so for that reason they don't get into the robotic hand that happens to all of them,the most on 24 numbers i have seen miss is 10 in row .in my last 200 years .
LoL....100 years of that was waiting for roulette to be invented ::) :P :-[
Theoretically, if it was on a cruise ship with a casino, which had run onto rocks, and was at a slight angle....54 is possible.
Ok...who plays roulette on a sinking ship. (hang on a minute........we all do!!)
Quote from: Turner on Apr 07, 11:55 AM 2013
LoL....100 years of that was waiting for roulette to be invented ::) :P :-[
Theoretically, if it was on a cruise ship with a casino, which had run onto rocks, and was at a slight angle....54 is possible.
Ok...who plays roulette on a sinking ship. (hang on a minute........we all do!!)
THAT WOULD BE THE ITALIAN CRUISE LINE :twisted:
Thats
Lets say the only real way to beat the game is to improve accuracy of results.
Say more often than not you can predict say a 15 pocket area which the ball will likely fall, with some fluctuations.
How would the VB player approach this? Because you are to a degree improving accuracy.
54 spins in the one half of the wheel seems a little unrealistic, specially not so relevant if you using a reasonable vb approach.
Covering 15 numbers in 5 seconds is difficult , neighbours bets are 25 pounds minimum so too high.
50 pence minimum bet on the table
Could play
5 spins of 7.50p no win move to level 2
5 spins 0f 15 pounds if reach profit before 5 spins reset
Just a thought, this is only for practice purposes. Watching an playing something like this in real conditions is no way near the same thing.
Quote from: strato1985 on Apr 08, 11:50 AM 2013
Just a thought, this is only for practice purposes. Watching an playing something like this in real conditions is no way near the same thing.
I fully understand this comment and your comments about placing bets in the real situation.
In many ways, I would do better with my latest ideas (which I havnt posted)
A lot of ideas I have posted are easy to play in live conditions on purpose, but Its a compromise. Best to successfully play an average idea than bugg.er up a complex one.
Anything complex that requires jotting down and such, I get in a mess at the table and co.ck it up, with all the leaning, stinking, lunatics and their mates
throwing chips on the table ....like a builder putting salt on his fish supper. :o
Turner
I have a very clever signature by Pierre Basieux that show how numbers are connected.
Also LS in hes books show how numbers are connected table layout / wheel layout ...
Thanks for share it. I see so they know they will win and are not worried at all .
They charge 25 pound minimum on the neighbors bet because there is an advantage to the player.
I see that cleared everything up hey.........
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