Everyone knows that deviation(ecart) is the rule and the balance(equilibrium) is the exception.
In 100 spins the most likely ecart between 2 chances is 10!
Everyone knows also that playing ALL the spins for hours is a suicide.
So I suggest:when an even chance has 5 outcomes more than the opposite,I play in order to reach an ecart of 10 outcomes
Example:15 Black,20 Red......I play Red.
If I lose,I stop playing and I wait for another difference of 5, if I win,I can continue to reach 10 or I stop playing,if my win goal is +1.
Play flat bet(boring) or smooth progression
Personally I play with a bankroll of 10000 â,¬ and a 50 â,¬ unit and a win goal of 2 units per day.Bread winner progression or 10 times 1 unit,10 times 2 units etc
Never bust after 94 sessions.
Golden rules:
--To play this system on classic even chances is not suitable,the killer session could happen.
Much better to create YOUR even chances(3 double streets vs other 3s,agglomeration vs isolated spin,half roulette on the right vs half on the left,etc)
In this way the permanence is more stable.
--Try to obtain your goal(ecart between 6 and 10) in 100 spins minimum,not less.
You doing this on Enprison table at MC casino,I pressume.
Every day?????
Why dont wait for inbalance of 10 ,and play for balance with soft progression.
I enter a Casino 80/100 days per year.
To tryry to reach a balance after an inbalance is too risky.
The balance is an exception and an inbalance higher than 10 is very frequent in 100 spins.
I'm talking about my attachement, column marked blue.
so you got 236 lines 5 more hits vs 145 lines (marked red). Now you bet one time for 236 again? If you win stop, wait next 5+, if lose stop too and wait another 5 difference?
thanks, biagle
Almost OK..
If you win(6+) you can go ahead, trying to reach 10+ or you can stop if your win goal is +1!
Personally I have a win goal of 2 units and after the first win(+ 1 unit) I change chance and I try to obtain the second unit with agglomeration vs isolated, that in my opinion is more stable than 3 double streets vs 3 doubles streets
The first unit agglomeration vs isolated Rvs B for instance,the second unit agglomeration vs isolated High vs Low or even/odds etc
But I know people that prefer like you 3 double streets vs 3 double streets.
can you explain please for unintelginet what means agglomeration vs isolated
RBBBBR:here you have an agglomeration at Black
BBBBRBBR:here you have 2 agglomerations at Black and an isolated at Red.After the last Red ,if a Red hits it's a second agglomeration at Red,if a Black hits.it's a second isolated at Red
can you give some exampled how you played/would play
28,
I find this very interesting. It reminds me of a system used in baccarat, except in reverse. See below:
For either Mode use 60% as the start point as this is close enough to both optimum figures.
This equates to 6 out of every 10 or expressed in shorthand is 6/10.
Below is a table to use.
6/10, 9/15, 12/20, 15/25, 18/30, 21/35, 24/40, 27/45, 30/50, 33/55, 36/60, 39/65, 42/70, 45/75, 48/80.
For Mode 1 tracking, add up the total Bankers and Players to give the bottom figure in the equation, and if either Banker or Player first exceeds the top figure then you Start the Bet Phase.
Example if Banker and Player total 25 and Banker is 16 then the bet phase has started and you would bet on Player.
As you can see, the author suggests that we play for the deviation to correct itself. In other words, we're betting the cold even chance will get hot and the hot even chance will get cold.
Whereas you are playing for the hot factor in the equation to get even hotter.
This may be the ultimate trend system!
Granted, in baccarat there aren't all the options for different even chances to bet on. This must be very boring in baccarat, but could have plenty of bets in roulette to stay interesting.
GLC
Quote from: beretta28 on Oct 07, 08:14 AM 2013
Everyone knows that deviation(ecart) is the rule and the balance(equilibrium) is the exception.
In 100 spins the most likely ecart between 2 chances is 10!
Everyone knows also that playing ALL the spins for hours is a suicide.
So I suggest:when an even chance has 5 outcomes more than the opposite,I play in order to reach an ecart of 10 outcomes
Example:15 Black,20 Red......I play Red.
If I lose,I stop playing and I wait for another difference of 5, if I win,I can continue to reach 10 or I stop playing,if my win goal is +1.
Play flat bet(boring) or smooth progression
Personally I play with a bankroll of 10000 â,¬ and a 50 â,¬ unit and a win goal of 2 units per day.Bread winner progression or 10 times 1 unit,10 times 2 units etc
Never bust after 94 sessions.
Golden rules:
--To play this system on classic even chances is not suitable,the killer session could happen.
Much better to create YOUR even chances(3 double streets vs other 3s,agglomeration vs isolated spin,half roulette on the right vs half on the left,etc)
In this way the permanence is more stable.
--Try to obtain your goal(ecart between 6 and 10) in 100 spins minimum,not less.
B., tx for sharing.
When your trigger appear, do you play one decision or more till positive?
Since Baretta28 hasn't responded, I will give some thoughts I have on this bet.
Once we have a 5 hit difference, we are expecting that difference to increase to 10 within the 100 spin cycle. Let's say Red is at 35 and Black is at 30. We're expecting Red to pull head by another 5 hits which means that we will have at least 5 RR's in order to reach +10. We could have RR then RRRR then RR and that would do it as long as we didn't have multiple B's to off-set the R's.
So, this means that we could wait until a Red hits and then bet for a second R since we know that in order for Red to continue to pull ahead of Black we have to have multiple Reds in a row. As soon as we are +1, we end the attack.
28 suggested a bread winner type progression of 10 losses each level. That means we bet 1 unit until we are either +1 or -10. If we reach -10, we go to 2 unit bets until we reach +1 or -30 etc... This is not exactly how the bread winner system is played, but it should work.
If Black overtakes Red and we have something like 60 Reds and 60 Blacks, we stop betting for Red and wait until we have another 5 hit difference by one of the colors. At that time, we continue where we left off in our progression but we will be betting on the even chance that is ahead by 5 which could be either one.
From our example above, we're expecting at least 1 more R than B if we're playing for R to reach 10 from 5, so even a flatbet should win in the long run.
I am not saying this is how Baretta plays this, just some of my thoughts on it until he can get back to us.
GLC
GLC
your explanation is perfect as well as your english.....
Thank you very much
You are right,Bread Winner is different from 1 unit 10 times,2 units ten times and so on.
Also flat bet can work,but like all systems ,you can have difficult sessions with long losses,and flat bet is boring.
Personnaly, I prefer progressions above.
And I don't play Red vs Black,High vs Low or Odd vs Pair.I play series vs single on threes even chances at the same time.More stable.....
Win goal +2,bankroll 200 units.
Hi --- beretta28 hasn't logged on here in a few months so not expecting an answer off him any time soon but can any other experienced roulette player please explain how series versus singles is more stable than a traditional even chance ?
Quote from beretta28
" And I don't play Red vs Black,High vs Low or Odd vs Pair.I play series vs single on threes even chances at the same time.More stable.....
Win goal +2,bankroll 200 units. "
As far as I can see series versus singles displays all the characteristics of a normal even chance,perhaps I've missed something ?
Cheers.
klw, Welcome aboard mate. I just love being the first to respond to a new member's 1st post.
Mathematically you're correct. Betting series vs singles is no different than betting Red vs Black. In 1000 spins, perfect distribution would be 500 singles and 500 series. In 1000 spins, perfect distribution would be 500 Reds and 500 Blacks. Believe me, Baretta28 is fully aware of this.
I have read other authors who state that the series vs singles seems to do better than Red vs Black or Odd vs Even etc... One such system is Predictor Gold where the author states that for some reason his tests indicate that betting series vs singles performs better. :o
Another system is the BV system. This is built on tracking singles vs series instead of Red vs Black. The author states that the system was tested in 4 casinos for a whole year at 50 or less spins per day. Each casino netted about 2500 units per year. If you do the math, that's 6.8 units for every 50 spins or .136 units for each spin. Not a glowing result other than it's a winning result. :thumbsup:
That's the best answer I can give. Other than beware, past results are no guarantee of future results.
GLC
Additionally, the author's system that can be found on this forum, uses Same vs Opposite as a bet selection method. If you think about it, that's another way of saying Series vs Single.
Hi GLC -- Many thanks for the welcome and response. I've been around a couple of years now just wasn't able to register somehow on here for ages , the registration process seems to be much simpler now so that's why I have only just appeared on here as a member.
Thank for the information , will definitely have a look.
Beretta seems to know what he's talking about and low variance suits my personality hence my interest in the EC's. Nick made an excel tracker for me to record singles and series using the 3 base EC's and also the different line combinations. Beretta's posts have given me some ideas based on his quest for 1 unit win and with the series / single angle am just trying to reverse engineer a system. Dane is doing something similar I believe so will catch up with that also.
Thanks once again.
Quote from: GLC on Jun 21, 06:09 PM 2014
klw, Welcome aboard mate. I just love being the first to respond to a new member's 1st post.
Mathematically you're correct. Betting series vs singles is no different than betting Red vs Black. In 1000 spins, perfect distribution would be 500 singles and 500 series. In 1000 spins, perfect distribution would be 500 Reds and 500 Blacks. Believe me, Baretta28 is fully aware of this.
I have read other authors who state that the series vs singles seems to do better than Red vs Black or Odd vs Even etc... One such system is Predictor Gold where the author states that for some reason his tests indicate that betting series vs singles performs better. :o
Another system is the BV system. This is built on tracking singles vs series instead of Red vs Black. The author states that the system was tested in 4 casinos for a whole year at 50 or less spins per day. Each casino netted about 2500 units per year. If you do the math, that's 6.8 units for every 50 spins or .136 units for each spin. Not a glowing result other than it's a winning result. :thumbsup:
That's the best answer I can give. Other than beware, past results are no guarantee of future results.
GLC
Additionally, the author's system that can be found on this forum, uses Same vs Opposite as a bet selection method. If you think about it, that's another way of saying Series vs Single.
Hi GLC . I ve had a quick look at the author's system. Not sure why the bet selection provides an edge if it does ? It seems to rely more on money management , will have another read to make sure I have digested it properly.
I ve done a search for the predictor gold and bv systems and come up with a blank Any chance some kind soul can provide a link to them ?
Cheers.
I have both systems and may be able to send them to you if you will PM me your e-mail address. I say may because they are embedded within a group of systems and it's not always possible for me to isolate a system.
I can tell you that there's no reason why either of the systems should break the casino edge barrier. I believe both systems were sold at one time which makes all claims to their effectiveness highly suspect if not outright unbelievable.
I only mentioned them as supporting statements regarding the efficacy of betting Series vs Singles instead of Red vs Black. I'm not saying I believe it, just noting some people's tendency to use it as justification for their bet selection method.
GLC
Quote from: beretta28 on Oct 07, 08:14 AM 2013
Everyone knows that deviation(ecart) is the rule and the balance(equilibrium) is the exception.
In 100 spins the most likely ecart between 2 chances is 10!
Everyone knows also that playing ALL the spins for hours is a suicide.
So I suggest:when an even chance has 5 outcomes more than the opposite,I play in order to reach an ecart of 10 outcomes
Example:15 Black,20 Red......I play Red.
If I lose,I stop playing and I wait for another difference of 5, if I win,I can continue to reach 10 or I stop playing,if my win goal is +1.
Play flat bet(boring) or smooth progression
Personally I play with a bankroll of 10000 â,¬ and a 50 â,¬ unit and a win goal of 2 units per day.Bread winner progression or 10 times 1 unit,10 times 2 units etc
Never bust after 94 sessions.
Golden rules:
--To play this system on classic even chances is not suitable,the killer session could happen.
Much better to create YOUR even chances(3 double streets vs other 3s,agglomeration vs isolated spin,half roulette on the right vs half on the left,etc)
In this way the permanence is more stable.
--Try to obtain your goal(ecart between 6 and 10) in 100 spins minimum,not less.
I crack the random flow.
I come up with a solution where the random flow has to show you the truth about Ecart play or regression towards the mean.
No bet selections or triggers.
With this solution you can observe how regression towards the mean unfold with out any fuzzy explanation.
Read this twice: Regression toward the mean simply says that, following an extreme random event, the next random event is likely to be less extreme. In no sense does the future event "compensate for" or "even out" the previous event, though this is assumed in the gambler's fallacy (and variant law of averages). Similarly, the law of large numbers states that in the long term, the average will tend towards the expected value, but makes no statement about individual trials. For example, following a run of 10 heads on a flip of a fair coin (a rare, extreme event), regression to the mean states that the next run of heads will likely be less than 10, while the law of large numbers states that in the long term, this event will likely average out, and the average fraction of heads will tend to 1/2. By contrast, the gambler's fallacy incorrectly assumes that the coin is now "due" for a run of tails, to balance out.
What does this means:This means i can pick any random combination of 10 events and compare them with the next 10 random events.
The expectation should be that they will not be the same combination and there will be present change.
So i can use opposite and same to see if this is the truth.
2
2
1
2
2
1
2
2
2
1
- - -
2 2 S
1 2 O
1 1 S
2 2 S
2 2 S
2 1 O
2 2 S
1 2 O
1 2 O
2 1 O
- - -
1 2 S
2 1 S
2 1 S
2 2 S
2 2 S
1 2 O
2 2 S
1 1 S
1 1 S
2 2 S
- - -
2 1 O
1 2 O
1 2 O
1 2 O
2 2 S
1 1 S
1 2 O
1 1 S
1 1 S
1 2 O
- - -
2 2 S
1 1 S
2 1 O
2 1 O
1 2 O
2 1 O
2 1 O
1 1 S
1 1 S
1 1 S
- - -
2 2 S
2 1 O
2 2 S
2 2 S
1 1 S
1 2 O
1 2 O
2 1 O
2 1 O
2 1 O
- - -
Lets say you have 10 red outcomes, then regression towards the mean says that the next 10 outcomes will be less extreme.
But it does not say it will even out with blacks 100% ...
So if i have 10 reds and no regression, then i would have 20 reds and that my friend is extreme and rare.
10 reds is rare and extreme, but 10 reds has the same probability as any random sequence with 10 outcomes.
This is why i can pick any sequence of 10 random outcomes and have the expectation that the next 10 random outcomes will not be the same 10 random outcomes.
That way i can see how regression towards the mean behave in the real world with real results with quick samples.
For example i don't need to wait for 3.0 STD window.
Now the beauty of this is that i can pick any window i think is extreme or rare.
This is one example how the LW-Registry can look like:
LWLWWLWWWW LLL WWWLWWLLWWLWWLWLWWWWLLWWWWWWLWLWWLWW LLL LWWLW
If you want to name this method for something else then regression towards the mean, then you can call it variance tracking.
You can pick any lenght, it does not have to be 10 - it can be 23456789 10 11 12 13 14 and so on.
Quote from: ego on Jun 24, 03:24 PM 2014
I crack the random flow.
I come up with a solution where the random flow has to show you the truth about Ecart play or regression towards the mean.
No bet selections or triggers.
With this solution you can observe how regression towards the mean unfold with out any fuzzy explanation.
Read this twice:
Regression toward the mean simply says that, following an extreme random event, the next random event is likely to be less extreme. In no sense does the future event "compensate for" or "even out" the previous event, though this is assumed in the gambler's fallacy (and variant law of averages). Similarly, the law of large numbers states that in the long term, the average will tend towards the expected value, but makes no statement about individual trials. For example, following a run of 10 heads on a flip of a fair coin (a rare, extreme event), regression to the mean states that the next run of heads will likely be less than 10, while the law of large numbers states that in the long term, this event will likely average out, and the average fraction of heads will tend to 1/2. By contrast, the gambler's fallacy incorrectly assumes that the coin is now "due" for a run of tails, to balance out.
What does this means:
This means i can pick any random combination of 10 events and compare them with the next 10 random events.
The expectation should be that they will not be the same combination and there will be present change.
So i can use opposite and same to see if this is the truth.
2
2
1
2
2
1
2
2
2
1
- - -
2 2 S
1 2 O
1 1 S
2 2 S
2 2 S
2 1 O
2 2 S
1 2 O
1 2 O
2 1 O
- - -
1 2 S
2 1 S
2 1 S
2 2 S
2 2 S
1 2 O
2 2 S
1 1 S
1 1 S
2 2 S
- - -
2 1 O
1 2 O
1 2 O
1 2 O
2 2 S
1 1 S
1 2 O
1 1 S
1 1 S
1 2 O
- - -
2 2 S
1 1 S
2 1 O
2 1 O
1 2 O
2 1 O
2 1 O
1 1 S
1 1 S
1 1 S
- - -
2 2 S
2 1 O
2 2 S
2 2 S
1 1 S
1 2 O
1 2 O
2 1 O
2 1 O
2 1 O
- - -
Lets say you have 10 red outcomes, then regression towards the mean says that the next 10 outcomes will be less extreme.
But it does not say it will even out with blacks 100% ...
So if i have 10 reds and no regression, then i would have 20 reds and that my friend is extreme and rare.
10 reds is rare and extreme, but 10 reds has the same probability as any random sequence with 10 outcomes.
This is why i can pick any sequence of 10 random outcomes and have the expectation that the next 10 random outcomes will not be the same 10 random outcomes.
That way i can see how regression towards the mean behave in the real world with real results with quick samples.
For example i don't need to wait for 3.0 STD window.
Now the beauty of this is that i can pick any window i think is extreme or rare.
This is one example how the LW-Registry can look like:
LWLWWLWWWW LLL WWWLWWLLWWLWWLWLWWWWLLWWWWWWLWLWWLWW LLL LWWLW
If you want to name this method for something else then regression towards the mean, then you can call it variance tracking.
You can pick any lenght, it does not have to be 10 - it can be 23456789 10 11 12 13 14 and so on.
? How would you bet as far as mm goes .what your saying is you would bet opposite of the first ten? Then retrack another random event?
Is just a simple way to observe and test if regression towards the mean exist.
OK Guys, just Tested Ego's Method with good results on first test; I span a coin 20 times Heads/Reds Tails/Black
RRRBBRBRBBBRBRRRRBBR I then played the opposite with these results WWLWWWWLLWLWWLLWLWW did not play the 20th spin as 19th was a win, Any body else tried this method? If it bombed let me know so I don't carry on testing! I will do another test later and let you know how it goes. Thanks People.
Ego; Looking at the test I have done above is this how you play? And can you tell us what progression are you using?
Next Test of Ego's Method 10 spins of a coin gives RRRRRBRBBR betting the opposite of those on Smartlive Casino airball real money 25p bets martigale progression WWLWLLWWLW up 6 units £1.50!!!
Next test on William Hill Air-Ball 10 spins of a coin gave RBRBBRBBBR Bet the opposite LLWLWLLLLW up 3 units
Last test of the day! William Hill Live dealer (UK Roulette) 20 spins of the coin this time. Heads/Red Tails/Black Played the opposite with
LWWLWWWLLWWLLWWLWWLW up 12 units
I did not post a system, i just wanted to show regression towards the mean.
You might only see one opposite or none, so be careful ....
Exactly n hopefully readers understands that. Which brings us back to the unique pattern which will give a sharp, consistent n stable fall off point of the distribution graph that I talked about.
Your previous extreme pattern did not show consistent results over time. However, further test revealed the unique pattern that did in my latest thread. Thanks to you ego. Cheers!
This looks interesting.
GLC, can i PM you for the methods? I would like to try them and this one for my tracker:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=13506.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=13506.0)
Sounds like this would be a perfect case for tracking multiple outcomes (R/B, H/L, etc).
But i still have trouble understanding the single & series method. Do you count the amount of singles and series and if there are 5 more singles that series, start betting on series (repeat of last) occurring?
Thanks everyone for sharing your ideas n expertise.
All members can PM me. Fire away!
Has anyone done any further tests on this? Does anyone have any experience with variance tracking the straight count of EC ( R vs B for example) and the singles/series?
Thanks to GLC and Ego for further explanations of this method. I think i have finally understood it and will try to make a tracker version of it (for the phone).
Cheers everyone !
Quote from: cheEsteban on Jul 05, 08:28 AM 2014
Has anyone done any further tests on this? Does anyone have any experience with variance tracking the straight count of EC ( R vs B for example) and the singles/series?
Thanks to GLC and Ego for further explanations of this method. I think i have finally understood it and will try to make a tracker version of it (for the phone).
Cheers everyone !
CheEsteban, Here's a take on this system that WallyGator and I have been talking about via PMs. It's an even chance system that bets against the 4 options that start with a Red coming in a row with no repeats, or the 4 options that start with Black coming in a row with no repeats.
As with Ego's explanation, we chart in sets of 3s. The first spin determines whether we're dealing with the Red 4 set group or the Black 4 set group.
The 1st 3 spins just become the first set in our group.
RRR Nothing to do but track these 3. Starting with these 3 spins we don't want to get all 4 unique sets without a repeat. A loss would look like this: RRR - RRB - RBR - RBB. A win would look like this: RRR - RRB - RR. That red R was a win because it needed to be a B to be a unique set.
RRR
RRX Here's the first chance to block a unique set. We'd bet R to block B.
RRR
RRB
RX Here's the 2nd chance to block a possible unique set. We'd bet R to block a B.
RRR
RRB
RBNB No bet here because either R or B would make a unique set.
RRR
RRB
RBR
RX A 3rd chance to block so we bet R to block a B.
RRR
RRB
RBR
RBX Our 4th and last chance to block. Bet R to block a B.
You'll see that we have a 3 possible bet sequence and a 4 possible bet sequence. The above is an example of our 4 bet option.
Now I'll present the 3 bet possibility.
RBR
RRB
RRX This is our 1st chance to block a unique set. Bet B to block an R
RBR
RRB
RRR
RX This is our 2nd chance to block. Bet R to block a B
RBR
RRB
RRR
RBX Here's our 3rd and final chance to block a unique set. Bet R to Block a B.
Please note that if the middle spin in the 2nd row matches the middle spin in the 1st row, you will have 4 opportunities to bet.
If the middle spin in the 2nd row is opposite the middle spin in the 1st row, you will only have 3 opportunities to bet.
I think we should have 2 progression lines if using a progression. One for the 4 bet opportunities and one for the 3 bet opportunities.
I suggest playing with a flat bet but, due to the nature of the system, and as much as I hate to suggest it, I think using a 3 step capped martingale and a 4 step capped martingale with the following penthouse lines makes sense.
For the 3 step marty, I would use this line: 11111112222222333333344444445555555 etc... Every time I lose I move 7 numbers to the right and every time I win, I move 1 number to the left.
The 4 step marty penthouse line looks like this, 111111111111111222222222222222333333333333333444444444444444555555555555555 etc... we'd move 15 numbers to the right on a loss and move 1 number to the left on a win.
Remember, we move back and forth between the Red block of 4 sets and the Black block of 4 sets depending on what the 1st color of our 3 spin set is.
I have been using the above lines in limited testing with good results. I don't know if it's any better than previous matrix type systems, but I do know that it's not worse.
All questions and tweak suggestions are very welcome.
George
As always, your way of thinking is flawless, George! I just ran 226 spins using the Foolproof progression variation that has been widely discussed on the Supa Dupa topic recently. It performed exceptionally well, tripling my initial bank plus a couple for the dealer. I think going forward, I would reset as each color nets a new high bankroll, just to keep the bets down a bit lower for when the rough stretch shows up to test our resolve. You are the best!
Hi Colbster, what is the initial BR u used
George....Long time no speak....
I love your stuff.
As for the basic structure of the Unique set blocking idea, do you continuously track back, or watch 7 to see where you are each time
So....tracking back OR fresh run after each W/L
Quote from: SamNL on Jul 05, 04:12 PM 2014
Hi Colbster, what is the initial BR u used
25 units. Never threatened to go negative beyond 1 unit, although I did draw down back near my initial bank once the bets got higher. Missed lots of zeros as there are many bets that you are not in. Very safe feeling, even when it was going against me. Might tighten the target, like I mentioned. Strong bet selection method though.
Quote from: Turner on Jul 05, 04:17 PM 2014
As for the basic structure of the Unique set blocking idea, do you continuously track back, or watch 7 to see where you are each time
So....tracking back OR fresh run after each W/L
My way of playing was as soon as I got a repeat, I deleted all my prior tracking from the first instance back. This meant that I never had more than 3 lines finished. The couple times I got all 4 unique sets, I deleted all 4 and started with a fresh tracking set.
Quote from: Colbster on Jul 05, 05:02 PM 2014
My way of playing was as soon as I got a repeat, I deleted all my prior tracking from the first instance back. This meant that I never had more than 3 lines finished. The couple times I got all 4 unique sets, I deleted all 4 and started with a fresh tracking set.
This is the way I play it also. I like the relaxed pace of this way of tracking. It's easy to calculate the next bet and I never feel pushed to get my chips on the table. You have to stay focused though. With a little extra time between bets, it's easy to get distracted. Remember how Flatino told us that when he was playing roulette, the other players thought he was deaf and mute. No talking to other players while you're at the table. They only know you can hear and speak when you're on your way to the cashier to cash in your winnings.
That Flatino. He's quite a character.
The foolproof progression can be a scary progression. I have posted a couple of variations of it called "The Forced Win Progression". You need a pretty hefty bankroll at times.
I'm not sure what variation of it you're talking about, but I've been preoccupied with other things lately and haven't read all the topics/posts.
I use the capped marty because I feel that we're betting that 4 unique triples won't hit before one of them repeats. So, the 3 bet or the 4 bet possibilities are a package. I have to get the 4 unique sets without a repeat before I've lost that attack.
Not saying that treating each bet independently won't work. Evidently it does. But I like the idea of having to lose all 3 or all 4 bets before I've lost the attack. Just my way of looking at it.
GLC
Am going to give the latest of GLC a test on Baccarat today.
I have an Excel sheet from Normy2000 that am using for the progression.
I haved used his spreadsheet before and I like it.
I will report how it goes.
Quote from: SamNL on Jul 08, 10:38 AM 2014
Am going to give the latest of GLC a test on Baccarat today.
I have an Excel sheet from Normy2000 that am using for the progression.
I haved used his spreadsheet before and I like it.
I will report how it goes.
Good luck my friend! I hope the ball is bouncing your way.
GLC
Hey SamNL,
It sounds like baccarat would be also a great way to try this method. Have you had any success with it?
I started working on coding it to my tracker this weekend but have been hitting some snags. I hope i can find an elegant solution to the algorithm soon.
Anyone else try it with roulette? With any other even chance bets?
Over the last few days, I have played a system inspired by the method beretta28 has illustrated in the first message of this thread and by a follow up method he posted on another forum (link below).
link:s://:.roulettelife.com/index.php?topic=87.0
I play the 3 even chances R/B, E/O, H/L simultaneously and to my surprise they all show a benefit after 226 games; in this case, a game is a capped Marty 1, 2, 4 applied to each even chance, which means I have played 226*3 mini games in total. Simple luck? We'll see.
Since I have received private messages asking me what method I play, I will explain it.
But first I have to say that I have met a run of hell (as expected) in which all 3 EC had losses at the same time and rendering the recouping very difficult.
I was recording the dominant EC in 7 spins, then played it using a 3 steps marty 1,2,4. I was playing 3 ECs at the same time.
Can you give more details on your totals? What were the unit earnings before the run of hell?
How bad of the run was your last one?
In hindsight, maybe there's an implementation of STOP possible in order to not burn your bank and come back later to jump the winning train again.
Knowing when not to tilt and call it a stop is the hardest thing once you establish a betting pattern which brings you profits. I do have one of my own but being up 14-15 units, then going down to 3-4, just to get up back to 17-18 and then go down to 7-8 is really tilting and keeping a cool head is hard