is roulette really unbeateble in the end?
...is not randomness a proof God exist?
something so complicated, so chaotic, beyond our understanding?
in the end is randomness is a chaotic beast with immortal life, that cannot be destroyed?
randomness is chaos , randomness is god
like something we know exist that we can see but not comprehend?
randomness is proof of immortality and god
Sorry, I must have missed something
How does it prove God again?
Amongst the brilliant people of the world there is a saying: What is, is!
Now think about this: Gravity is. Yet we fly in our contraptions.
Randomness is, yet__________________!
Ow! That was so brilliant, it made my head hurt!
TwoCat
Quite the opposite dear Ignatus
God is a man made concept. Random isn't.
Trying to get my head around RNG produced by 'honest' software developers.
As such, their RNG is software based, therefore it has a 'written' element, i.e. produced by a programmer.
Perhaps we have someone on here who could explain how the RNG is produced - preferably in layman terms.
Are there certain factors built into the RNG such as occasionally 20 reds or blacks are shown, that a dozen must sleep for 20 spins, that a number will appear 3 times in a row, etc. Or is it a real RNG, in that occurrences that I have mentioned will naturally occur and there is no need to program such events? Which is precisely how Casinos will always come out on top with no manipulation.
I still maintain that it is defeatist to try to beat the RNG. I have many systems that do win but will never beat the game.
Quote from: RobbieD on Jan 26, 05:38 PM 2014
Trying to get my head around RNG produced by 'honest' software developers.
As such, their RNG is software based, therefore it has a 'written' element, i.e. produced by a programmer.
RNG: Go to Random.org there is a section there where they explain how their's is generated.
I believe, if you take number's from there, fine tune your playing with their number's. You will be able to beat any randomness.
I still maintain that it is defeatist to try to beat the RNG. I have many systems that do win but will never beat the game.
I for one have always believed and still saying it. The only way to get ahead in roulette is to play 4-5 systems in one sitting.
You should be able to master all your systems inside out. As WINKEL has said, be able to see what's happening at that moment, and play the system that works. After a few dozen spins, the other system will wake up. The current one will go to sleep. If you have a few weapons and enough bankroll, you will win sessions in and out. You might lose 1 here and there, but you will come out ahead.
In respect to "GOD" it's in one's inner self to accept or not.
However, there is always and will always remain outside factor called "LUCK". You can reduce the LUCK factor if you going to understand what's happening to the number's.
Ignatus raises an interesting topic.
Human beings are not supposed to see into the
future (albeit there are some real psychics out there).
is roulette really unbeateble in the end?
I believe it is beatable (look at Mr. J's $18K win in one session)
*I also understand he is a Christian.
Since people are espousing beliefs I'd like to say
God is in every outcome, whether we believe it or not.
QuoteAre there certain factors built into the RNG such as occasionally 20 reds or blacks are shown, that a dozen must sleep for 20 spins, that a number will appear 3 times in a row, etc. Or is it a real RNG, in that occurrences that I have mentioned will naturally occur and there is no need to program such events? Which is precisely how Casinos will always come out on top with no manipulation.
They naturally occur, all by themselves, honest. BUT it is easy for a casino to cheat, the software could easily be told to spit out a number that isn't covered at any time that's why BetVoyager is a good choice as your number set is set in stone for its duration.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 27, 12:14 AM 2014
Human beings are not supposed to see into the
future (albeit there are some real psychics out there).
We can all predict the future... an we call can do it very well... we only dont think about it.. and we are only trained todo it very short term... like max a few seconds ahead... so if we train more and extent that time frame... who knows... we can beat roulette
Randomness is how God does you favors without everyone else knowing. He can switch things in your favor and you can chalk it up to being lucky. Just remember, if you have a long losing streak, god hates you.
I strongly dissagree FreeRoulette, but if that is your belief...
It funny how things work out. You may spend years working on the HG and go to the casino and lose your bankroll--but as you walk out you find a lottery ticket worth twice what your bankroll was.
So define Grail...
I guess some could benifit to read a book like "the secret of the millionaire mind" , you can try "The Secret" But I dont belief a cheque of 50k will drop in may mailbox is you just think about it. >:D
I don't belief a cheque of 50k will drop in may
mailbox is you just think about it.--Spin4Fun
OK then I will take your check for 50K if you don't want it. :)
*You can have what you say
Seriously however alongside proper money managenemt, solid system and bankroll--a can-do mindset.
Not to play up the religious discussion, but with the Roulette wheel and
the 666 reference there is a spiritual element to be taken into account.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 28, 08:33 AM 2014
I strongly dissagree FreeRoulette, but if that is your belief...
It funny how things work out. You may spend years working on the holy grail and go to the casino and lose your bankroll--but as you walk out you find a lottery ticket worth twice what your bankroll was.
So define Grail...
Don't want to debate on it but I think, this is identical to the statement that FreeRoulette has made.
If GOD(or any outside factor you want to beleive) didn't like you, you wouldn't have found the ticket.
Proof says it all, if you believe or not... if you dont have"a can-do mindset" + TAKE ACTION (this part is general forgotten) .. you will get nothing...
If God(or any outside factor you want to beleive)
didn't like you, you wouldn't have found the ticket.
That is why I am proud to say I am a Christian.
(so if He chooses to reveal the Grail (whatever it is)
I will be in a position to receive it.
Proof says it all, if you believe or not... if you don't have"a can-do mindset" + TAKE ACTION (this part is general forgotten) .. you will get nothing...
Also have at least one good study partner to help hash out your master plan.
:)
Quote from: Azim on Jan 28, 09:59 AM 2014
If God(or any outside factor you want to beleive) didn't like you, you wouldn't have found the ticket.
Hmmm....I beg to differ
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what im saying is randomness is a proof of divinity. now you may be an atheist, but that doesn't matter, it's still a fact
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 28, 02:04 PM 2014
what I'm saying is randomness is a proof of divinity. now you may be an atheist, but that doesn't matter, it's still a fact
What I'm saying is randomness is NOT a proof of divinity. Now you may be a believer, but that doesn't matter, it's still a fact
Just words - you see?
I respect people who have God in their life.
I don't.
But I fail to see the link between peoples beliefs and Random Numbers.
2 billion years ago, long before life and humans and religion, the early seas were creating random patters in the waves and ripples.
Nothing divine.
Randomness is just a natural part of nature.
Amen
(which does sound religious...agreed)
If you asked someone to write down a random set of 100 numbers between 1 and 100, and you had a random number generator do the same. You could tell which was which, because people tend try and balance out the random numbers, but pure random number can be very lopsided.
Rejoice, for God exists purely in awe of himself, and randomness is his infinite effort to experience everything. - Skakus.
Quote from: FreeRoulette on Jan 28, 11:58 PM 2014
If you asked someone to write down a random set of 100 numbers between 1 and 100, and you had a random number generator do the same. You could tell which was which, because people tend try and balance out the random numbers, but pure random number can be very lopsided.
It's like the number of hairs of human hair. Science
says there is an average of 100,000 human hairs on each head.
Yet every hair on the human head is numbered. It's that
'lack of detail' we (mankind) attribute to 'randomness'.