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Title: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: SpinASequence on Apr 04, 05:43 AM 2014
I am re-entering the casinos after a time away.

I understand Jack Wise Kennedy's Positional Roulette.

I believe you should follow the wheel.

I believe that you should bet SAL

I believe that you should only bet 4 chips

I have my own system based on Jack's reasoning


I call it the House System

I break the numbers on the wheel  except 0 - down into a single digit

House 1 : 1-10-19-28
House 2 : 2-11-20-29
House 3 : 3-12-21-30
House 4 : 4-13-22-31
House 5 : 5-14-23-32
House 6 : 6-15-24-33
House 7 : 7-16-25-34
House 8 : 8-17-26-35
House 9 : 9-18-27-36

Houses : 2-4-6-8 are black
Houses : 3-5-7-9 are red

House 1 : has 2 red and 2 black

I only record house numbers on a card, usually waiting for 9 spins. You will not see the dealer hit all 9 houses in 9 spins which mean some must repeat and there will be no shows just as Jack says in his ramblings.

Example, if after 9 spins number 22 hits, I record 4 on a card.

I now only have 3 houses to choose from : 2-6-8. I do not play for house 4 to repeat.

How do I choose : past history. I only bet 4 chips and I only bet SAL.

So for instance I may bet house 6 which is : 6-15-24-33

There are other ways to bet but this is the basis.

Give it a try. It's no use checking it out over 10,000 rng numbers because I am playing against a real wheel in real time on a short term basis. Everyday you walk in a casino you will see trends and sequences - it's up to you to take advantage of these short term trends - make a profit - and walk.

I play to win. I do not play to play. There is a difference.



SAS




Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: Chris555p on Apr 24, 08:03 PM 2014
Thanks SAS for sharing this great method.

I suggest all members who are serious about winning take some time to study, and test this great
method.



Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: underthegun on Apr 25, 04:49 PM 2014
just one question: what does it mean SAL?

is like last before the last or other?

sorry if the question may seem silly :(
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ausguy on Apr 25, 06:28 PM 2014
gun - SAL = Same As (the) Last.
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: foogus on Apr 25, 10:55 PM 2014
Quote from: ausguy on Apr 25, 06:28 PM 2014
gun - SAL = Same As (the) Last.

I think in this case SpinASequence means Same As Last Colour. One of the things that Jack Kennedy talks about in his book is always following the last colour.
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ausguy on Apr 26, 12:01 AM 2014
Yes correct, as in - past history, houses RED or BLACK anyone that can read should see that.  foogus your inferring a correction when NIL is needed ?

Gun asked what SAL meant & it means what I said = Same As Last.

Again anyone who has read JACK WISE KENNEDY'S writings would know he promotes following the last colour.

At one stage you knew nothing of JWK's ideas until you read his writings. I've read his writings also, so I'm no less knowledgeable than what you may be on it ? Therefore no need for the little lecture'
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: foogus on Apr 26, 04:18 AM 2014
 :yawn: My feeling is if underthegun had read the book he would not have asked the question........ and one line is not a lecture.
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: buffalowizard on Apr 26, 11:09 AM 2014
I like the method but am unsure about one slightly vague area.

The most important part is choosing which house to bet on and all we're told is to look at past history. That could mean lots of things, any ideas folks?

BW
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: underthegun on Apr 26, 11:57 AM 2014
Thanks for the replies.
I have not read the book, but trying the method, I just applied the method Same As Last ( colour)
The house that I choice is that appeared several times in the past nine spin, other than the last spin.

TY
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ddarko on Apr 26, 12:46 PM 2014
Guys, the has been tested before over ay VLS, congrats to all that are winning so far.....

Get 10,000 bets made & pls post again if your in profit  8)

good luck to one & all

O0
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: probasah on Apr 26, 01:28 PM 2014
Quote from: SpinASequence on Apr 04, 05:43 AM 2014
I am re-entering the casinos after a time away.

I understand Jack Wise Kennedy's Positional Roulette.

I believe you should follow the wheel.

I believe that you should bet SAL

I believe that you should only bet 4 chips

I have my own system based on Jack's reasoning


I call it the House System

I break the numbers on the wheel  except 0 - down into a single digit

House 1 : 1-10-19-28
House 2 : 2-11-20-29
House 3 : 3-12-21-30
House 4 : 4-13-22-31
House 5 : 5-14-23-32
House 6 : 6-15-24-33
House 7 : 7-16-25-34
House 8 : 8-17-26-35
House 9 : 9-18-27-36

Houses : 2-4-6-8 are black
Houses : 3-5-7-9 are red

House 1 : has 2 red and 2 black

I only record house numbers on a card, usually waiting for 9 spins. You will not see the dealer hit all 9 houses in 9 spins which mean some must repeat and there will be no shows just as Jack says in his ramblings.

Example, if after 9 spins number 22 hits, I record 4 on a card.

I now only have 3 houses to choose from : 2-6-8. I do not play for house 4 to repeat.

How do I choose : past history. I only bet 4 chips and I only bet SAL.


SAS

Hi SAS,

If you could shade a little more light on the method, i will make a free tracker for all of us. What do you say?
I understand the method until this part:
"How do I choose : past history. I only bet 4 chips and I only bet SAL"

What does that mean? i will give you an example:

spins played:

12 - House 3
8 - House 8
1 - House 1
23 - House 5
4 - House 4
1 - House 1
4 - House 4
19 - House 1
22 - House 4

Next spin: 25 - House 7

Red Houses: 3-5-7-9

you dont bet on house 7

That leaves us in this example to choose from houses 3-5-9

You say you use the PAST.

Which house would you choose in this case and why?

Regards,
Alex

Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ausguy on Apr 26, 02:14 PM 2014
ddarko - the 10,000 bet scenario is not valid to SAS's MO (method of operation). He does say in post #1 on here for him it's real time on a real wheel on a short term basis, make a profit & walk. 50 x 200 or 100 x 100 seperate live dealer spin sessions may be more a representative way to test his plays ?

This profit & walk idea is little different to hit & run betting which from time to time on this forum & VLS has in the past been discussed at length.

Who can forget (of those that were around a couple of years ago) the huge volumes of postings (I think exceeding 85 pages ?) on Pattern Betting & John Legends Hit & Run MO ?

I don't suggest that it's not possible to win or be winning with this version of positional roulette but mathematically it's still 4/37 on a Euro wheel.

So that's a 10.81% chance to win & an 89.19% chance to lose. If making it 1/2 of an EC total = 18 & 18 + zero then it's 4/19 @21.05% to win on a same colour spin (or H/L, O/E) & 15/19 @ 78.95% to lose.

For me I wouldn't be risking my money when the winning mountain is substantially smaller than the losing mountain.

How would it go if the play was modified to use 10 - 12 numbers & lower the win/profit expectations ?  Perhaps with more numbers covered & thus potentially more wins the returns may be potentially more consistant long term ?
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ddarko on Apr 26, 02:35 PM 2014
herb/snowman/xander a AP, stated years and years, to test a system, look how it's doing after 10,000 placed bets. That's all I meant, as 10,000 bets placed as a whole, not a session.

O0
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ausguy on Apr 26, 05:39 PM 2014
ddarko - I get what you mean no probs. So say SAS is averaging around 125 - 150 bets per session & betting a session every day it would need to survive for around 10,000 accumulated spins in close to 2 1/2 months & be nicely in profit ?

SpinASequence - How are you actually doing with you plays ? Are you in profit every session ? What's your view on the 10,000 spin test ?
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ddarko on Apr 26, 06:20 PM 2014
Quote from: ausguy on Apr 26, 05:39 PM 2014
ddarko - I get what you mean no probs. So say SAS is averaging around 125 - 150 bets per session & betting a session every day it would need to survive for around 10,000 accumulated spins in close to 2 1/2 months & be nicely in profit ?

SpinASequence - How are you actually doing with you plays ? Are you in profit every session ? What's your view on the 10,000 spin test ?

you got it ausguy !!!! 10,000 placed bets & then I'm interested if it's still in profit.

He could well do it, & xander thinks that should be enough spins to cover most combinations likely to be encountered.....

Personally I only ever test for 100 spins at a time, I see no point in testing say 1,0000 spins because who could sit in for 1,000 spins. Also it's always "live" spins NEVER RNG for me.

O0
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ddarko on Apr 26, 06:38 PM 2014
Quote from: SpinASequence on Apr 04, 05:43 AM 2014

I play to win. I do not play to play. There is a difference.


Would you be kind enough to explain what that difference is please ?

Thxs

O0
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: MrJ on Apr 27, 04:38 AM 2014
Good job ddarko. Thing is, with goofs like Snowman/Xander (and the WoV board), if he read this thread, he'll just say there is either some type of flaw OR the sample size is too small etc.

"They" will NEVER allow a method to look good on a thread, they will NEVER say.....Holy s**t, thats great ddarko!!!

Once "they" admit it ONE TIME, its all over for "them" and they know it.

Ken
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: rouletteKEY on Apr 27, 12:06 PM 2014
Quote from: SpinASequence on April 03, 2014, 11:43:16 PM


I play to win. I do not play to play. There is a difference.



Quote from: ddarko on Apr 26, 06:38 PM 2014
Would you be kind enough to explain what that difference is please ?

Thxs

O0

I won't speak for anyone else...but I play to win rather than to play to play.

For me that means that although losing sucks... I am not afraid to lose... if I think there is an opportunity to either turn a static or losing session into a plus or make a nice session into a great session by making a few very large bets in comparison to whatever level I had previously been at I up the ante.  This generally does not mean going "all in" but it could mean instead of playing nickels on a number maybe I give it a few spins at 5, 10 or 15 times the normal amount. 

All my bets are in real B&M casinos so no I am not talking about a 5 cent bet going up to a whopping 50 or 75 cent bet.

Playing to play for me is the guy with the monster grinder method that sits at the table for 5 hours playing minimum or almost minimum bets and ends up within a hundred bucks one way or the other of where he started with no real attacks to make any big profits. He plays because for whatever reason but has no real expectation of making or losing any meaningful money and maybe just likes to sit at the table instead of a slot machine...he just plays to play.
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ddarko on Apr 27, 12:24 PM 2014
@ rouletteKEY

Thanks for that answer  :thumbsup:

Wonder if SAS's reply will be different  ???

O0
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: MrJ on Apr 27, 12:34 PM 2014
"All my bets are in real B&M casinos so no I am not talking about a 5 cent bet going up to a whopping 50 or 75 cent bet.

Playing to play for me is the guy with the monster grinder method that sits at the table for 5 hours playing minimum or almost minimum bets and ends up within a hundred bucks one way or the other of where he started with no real attacks to make any big profits. He plays because for whatever reason but has no real expectation of making or losing any meaningful money and maybe just likes to sit at the table instead of a slot machine" >>> Geez, you sound like me. Gonna have to do an IP check, make sure I am not you.  :twisted:

Ken
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: SpinASequence on Apr 28, 09:49 AM 2014
I play to win!Last week played 4 chips on a house. Won. Next spin played another 4 chips. In it went again. Cashed in and walked. That is playing to win!

If I had stayed I would have playing to play. There IS a difference!

If you have the discipline to adhere to it - you will be a winner!

Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ddarko on Apr 29, 11:46 AM 2014
Quote from: SpinASequence on Apr 28, 09:49 AM 2014

If I had stayed I would have playing to play. There IS a difference!


If you would of stayed you may of won again.....

O0
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: SpinASequence on Apr 29, 12:14 PM 2014
I already had won. So why stay?
Title: Re: Jack and me! Four chip method
Post by: ddarko on Apr 29, 12:57 PM 2014
Quote from: SpinASequence on Apr 29, 12:14 PM 2014
I already had won. So why stay?

Well when you lose your first two spins, you would of had to stay then correct ?

O0