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Title: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 10:26 PM 2014
Recently I remember reading a simple system

Something along the lines of place chips on the 2 most recent dozens

if the spins are
32
24
3
5
17
9

Then youd bet on dozen 2 and 3

If the next spin is 5 you lose but then youd bet dozen 1 and dozen 3 since the spin before last was 32

Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 10:45 PM 2014
Betting on the 2 most recent dozens has a decent hit rate. No progression necessary. Whatever the 2 most recent dozens are to show bet that, no virtual loss wait, bet every spin
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 05:30 PM 2014
this is working for me
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 05:42 PM 2014
i wish i knew how to test this on software. cant get a good enough idea mechanically but so far so good

testmystrategy and roulette xtreme cant take this strategy
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 22, 08:12 PM 2014
night 2

celtic casino, european wheel

up another $1,000

betting on 2 most recent dozens, on a loss negative progression, reset on a win

never loses

lucky streak? or do we have something here?

lets see what happens night 3

(this avoids losing when 1 dozen streaks)
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: Turner on Oct 23, 09:22 AM 2014
You dont have something here. Think about the simplicity vs. 100 years of roulette.
There wouldnt be roulette.
Firstly, double dozen payout is poor and a loss is harsh. There isnt enough payout to make a progression other than triple your bet.

Someone made a good point on one of Ignatus's graphs. The line was all uphill apart from a giant dip. The comment was ....that dip spike could be when you first start and not after some time.
DDs dip big due to the 1:2 odds.
The ratio of 1:2 is its downfall...before you even consider zero and HE

Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: Rewster88 on Oct 23, 11:03 AM 2014
Hi ,

I think the problem is many are testing systems the wrong way. I think best is to test a system
Like you actually going to a casino, your not sitting on a table playing 10.000 spins. Testing 10.000 spins may be good if you have a bot betting for you. If you go to a casino one night , how many spins do you see? Maybe 100? 200? 300? So the point is test the system 100x 100/200/300 spins instead of 10.000 spins and then see on the end if your are ahead.

Grtzz Rewster
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: ddarko on Oct 23, 11:05 AM 2014
Quote from: Rewster88 on Oct 23, 11:03 AM 2014
Hi ,

I think the problem is many are testing systems the wrong way. I think best is to test a system
Like you actually going to a casino, your not sitting on a table playing 10.000 spins. Testing 10.000 spins may be good if you have a bot betting for you. If you go to a casino one night , how many spins do you see? Maybe 100? 200? 300? So the point is test the system 100x 100/200/300 spins instead of 10.000 spins and then see on the end if your are ahead.

Grtzz Rewster

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

O0
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: Rewster88 on Oct 23, 11:14 AM 2014
If we test all old systems on this forum this way, maybe a good chance that there already is a so called HG? Or a very good consistent one?


Grtzz R
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 07:28 PM 2014
turner

the way i play is not that way

i dont need to triple up, that is too crazy

i dont bet on the sleeping dozen

sometimes the answers to win are simple. as u said this is too simple and thats the key

bet the last 2 recent dozens every spin, when you lose double up. by doubling up you break even on a win.

in my testing you win more than lose, obviously because you are on 66% of board

i can marty 5 times and believe me in those 5 spins a dozen WILL repeat

and rewster, BINGO. i test this live. as it can not be tested as far as i know any other way

just like the 3 double streets even testing thousands of spins even a million spins the 3 center double streaks never miss more than 10 in a row, statistics show waiting for 5 virtual misses then betting is just about flawless. that ONE IN A MILLION where the 3 center double streets loses more than ten in a row is such a rarity. it is a safe EC negative progression bet

follow me! simplicity is the answer
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: warrior on Oct 23, 07:40 PM 2014
You will lose.
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: Colbster on Oct 23, 07:42 PM 2014
D1-D2-D3-D1-D2-D3

Believe me, you will see that entirely more often than you care to.  5 spins is nothing - random won't even think twice.  There is no statistical reason why it can't hit that gives you an advantage and I don't see a "reason" why this could work, even short-term.  Double dozens players killed this idea a long time ago after taking a beating.  Sorry, but save your money on this one!
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: rouletteKEY on Oct 23, 07:43 PM 2014
there will come a time that this will turn into a grenade

they all seem to work for awhile...look at some of the posts and graphs

and then it happens...

this will not turn out well
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: rouletteKEY on Oct 23, 07:45 PM 2014
We must have all been typing at the same time...3 pretty similar responses in like 3 minutes

that might say something
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 07:46 PM 2014
Quote from: Colbster on Oct 23, 07:42 PM 2014
D1-D2-D3-D1-D2-D3

Believe me, you will see that entirely more often than you care to.  5 spins is nothing - random won't even think twice.  There is no statistical reason why it can't hit that gives you an advantage and I don't see a "reason" why this could work, even short-term.  Double dozens players killed this idea a long time ago after taking a beating.  Sorry, but save your money on this one!

.
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: Colbster on Oct 23, 07:49 PM 2014
link:://:.loothog.com/Systems/DX.php (link:://:.loothog.com/Systems/DX.php)

This is a quick method of testing your exact method.  You can choose bankroll, your progression (1,2,4,8,16) if you are using Marty, etc.  Run it fast and see how it does.
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 07:54 PM 2014
thanks for that colbster

300 spins, never went negative one time
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 07:56 PM 2014
500 spins
+$80

never went past 6 stage marty
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 07:57 PM 2014
1,000 spins

triple up on a loss

+ $500
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: Colbster on Oct 23, 07:57 PM 2014
I did about 20 sets of 500.  Some won 50, some lost 50, then I had a -613.  You only need one.
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 07:59 PM 2014
$5 units

progression 5, 10, 30, 90, 250

positive balance everytime
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 08:00 PM 2014
i still like the 3 center double streets better

never sleep more than 10

code that
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: Colbster on Oct 23, 08:06 PM 2014
I don't code.  Someone else did that.
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: rouletteKEY on Oct 23, 08:07 PM 2014
rich...

how did you get onto another (better) method within the same thread of your own grail?

are you related to anyone else on this forum?   :twisted:

sorry ...I just can't help myself at this point...I will self mod myself to the background here for awhile  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 08:10 PM 2014
test the 3 center double streets after sleeping 5 times in a row

tell me what you find
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: Colbster on Oct 23, 08:14 PM 2014
Here is your middle bet as a chart - it ended poorly
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: Colbster on Oct 23, 08:17 PM 2014
This might be more accurate
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 08:18 PM 2014
colbster

note: it says maximum consecutive losses 9

wait 5 then bet
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: Colbster on Oct 23, 08:20 PM 2014
Dude,

Test it yourself on that testmystrategy.com.  I don't know how to use the advanced features and I am telling you now, unequivocally, this is a stinker of a bet.  I have already spent more time on this than I should have.
Title: Re: 2 most recent dozens
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 08:24 PM 2014
Ive ran thousands of tests on testmystrategy on it. 10 is the typical max.

If you dont like the bet so be it. im here to discuss roulette