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Title: a new dozen progression?
Post by: ignatus on Oct 21, 01:55 PM 2014
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=rGFfn1Md_s8 (link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=rGFfn1Md_s8)

dozen progression goes: 1 1 1 2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1391

haven't seen that one before? how many spins can a dozen sleep?
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: Smoczoor on Oct 21, 04:38 PM 2014
My record is 27 times, but i heard about 33.
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 05:04 PM 2014
Ive been playing around with betting the 2 most recent dozens. Great results.

32
36
5
22
16
18

In this sequence on numbers youd bet 1st and 3rd dozen on next spin. Bet 2 most recent every spins. Use marty and reset on a win
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: nottophammer on Oct 21, 05:09 PM 2014
30+ on rng, also seen on smartlive as us to watch for brother as a mate use to wait five and then bet the 4 corners for 25p lost on plenty occasions . I'll see if i can find old sheets with the losses
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 05:56 PM 2014
a dozen will repeat much sooner than 27 or 33 spins, just use this progression by betting on the last dozen each spin
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: ignatus on Oct 21, 06:23 PM 2014
Quote from: richbailey86 on Oct 21, 05:56 PM 2014
a dozen will repeat much sooner than 27 or 33 spins, just use this progression by betting on the last dozen each spin

great idea, yes i noticed also that "last dozen hit" is very common...or perhaps it's just my imagination? im thinking when one dozen sleep it can alternate between two dozens for a very long time
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 06:26 PM 2014
your chances of winning using a progression on a dozen is by betting the last dozen hit, not the sleeping dozen

test it

look at past spins

bet on double dozens by betting the 2 most recent dozens every spin etc etc

i bet you this progression would work wonders betting on the last dozen hit
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 06:35 PM 2014
ignatus

here is a 5,000 spin simulation from testmystrategy

I set it to dozen 1, flat bet $10 units after it has been landed on one time, going for a repeat. on some simulations i broke even, some down, some up, but never lost the bankroll

therefore betting on the last dozen hit with a light progression can be profitable

starting balance 5000, ending balance 4200, after 5,000 spins, add that progression and wallah we have a winner


Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: Chris555p on Oct 21, 06:46 PM 2014
Betting a fortune to win 1 unit, not for me......lol lol
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 08:15 PM 2014
I am close to certain that using this progression on the last dozen hit is almost full proof

Going through many past spins now.

If 35 shows, bet 3rd dozen until it hits. Then after it hits wait for the next spin, do not bet. If the next number is 22 then bet the 2nd dozen until it hits

Ignatus I dont think you can use testmystrategy for this. Go to celtic and test it
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: rouletteKEY on Oct 21, 08:35 PM 2014
Quote from: richbailey86 on Oct 21, 08:15 PM 2014
I am close to certain that using this progression on the last dozen hit is almost full proof


Riso do MUTLEY (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=zCfyOXJf3ZM#)
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 08:47 PM 2014
lol roulette key lol

its a damn good betting strategy to bet on the last dozen, better then betting a sleeper
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 09:11 PM 2014
just an update

going on 2 hours of live play on celtic

betting most recent 2 dozens shown

up 16 units
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: rouletteKEY on Oct 21, 09:13 PM 2014
Just curious...did you have time to research the math based on Chris' comment?
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 09:16 PM 2014
Quote from: rouletteKEY on Oct 21, 09:13 PM 2014
Just curious...did you have time to research the math based on Chris' comment?

yes it is risky

the full proof thing i said was a joke

however that being said betting the most recent dozen proves to be a good bet

betting 2 of the most recent dozens even better

if you bet the 2 most recent dozens and marty on a loss, you break even on a win then reset. once u reset back to 1 unit on each of the 2 most recent dozens you win more spins than you lose and in the end come out ahead. im ahead 16 units tonight

this new style im trying is simply betting the past 2 dozens shown, on every win stay where u r, on a loss switch to the next 2 recent dozens shown. i have been using marty on losses to break even
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: rouletteKEY on Oct 21, 09:43 PM 2014
Rich...a double dozen pays 1 to 2...obviously it will win often based on the payout... and playing the hottest is certainly better than playing the coldest. 

But... a 1:2 bet gets to be a pretty expensive bet after just the second loss in comparison to the winnings.  16 units gets wiped out really really quick... and then some... with just a little bad luck.

Not trying to be harsh here...really just trying to help...enthusiasm is great...just don't wanna see you go bust with real money chasing a Marty into a black hole.

There are likely better bet selections and money management for what you are wanting to play. 

Keep testing and remember...playing the Marty it only takes one bad run to kill a months worth of work. 

How do you recover from even a four or five string loss?  You need to answer that before you put real money into this...my two cents



Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 09:47 PM 2014
I dislike marty. Would never use it on red black high low odd even as u and I both know the loss streaks can get up there

But double dozens is slightly different when you adjust each bet to play the recent 2 dozens

The wins outweigh the losses. The marty on a loss gets you back to break even point

looked at 500 past spins and played live 2 hours. Betting the 2 dozens my way never had more than 4 losses in a row, 4 losses was the max. Betting $1 base unit chips online, piece of cake. Practicing for real casino

Thats my thinking
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: rouletteKEY on Oct 21, 10:15 PM 2014
Be careful.  The expected hit rate on double dozens is not that statistically different from an EC when merging into a Marty for MM...at least not for me.

It's not only that one dozen that'll screw you...he has a green friend or two as well.  They never pop up when you want them.

500 spins is the tip of the iceberg...   They say you can't see 2/3rds of an iceberg.

I would test at a very minimum of 30-60 sessions of however many spins you normally play before I set my course on this with real cash.
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 21, 10:20 PM 2014
I agree. More sessions needed. However I did look at a lot of past spins as well
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: ignatus on Oct 21, 11:54 PM 2014
a short test; (last doz) longest step in progression 13th step, playing with 5u bets
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 22, 06:39 AM 2014
Now try it betting on the 2 most recent dozens. Youll be surprised
Title: Re: a new dozen progression?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 22, 08:11 AM 2014
Trust me. Every spin place chips on the 2 most recent dozens to show. Do that for a thousand spins