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Title: Doppelgänger
Post by: ignatus on Oct 24, 07:37 AM 2014
This is an old system of mine , that has proven to work very well, but with a new progression.

it's a single dozen bet,

trigger: Always bet for the current dozen pattern to repeat

there can only be 3 dozen patterns:

(N) NEW DOZEN HIT
(R) REPEAT
(L) LAST DOZEN HIT

(from livespins)

RLRRNLLNNNRNLRRLNNNLLRLNLNLLLRRNLNRLRRLNLRNNNLNRRRRNNRLLRR

as you can see repeating patterns is very common.

progression negative doz progression

1 1 2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1291
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: warrior on Oct 24, 07:53 AM 2014
Isn't last dozen and a repeat the same,you must of hit your head.
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: ignatus on Oct 24, 08:05 AM 2014
Quote from: warrior on Oct 24, 07:53 AM 2014
Isn't last dozen and a repeat the same,you must of hit your head.

repeat is the same dozen hit,

last dozen hit is (dozen 1 2 3); 1 2 1 for an example

new dozen hit is ; 1 2 3, 2 1 3 and so on
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: warrior on Oct 24, 08:39 AM 2014
Show how you would bet examples with real numbers.
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: Smoczoor on Oct 24, 08:44 AM 2014
Quotenegative doz progression

1 1 2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1291


(link:://:.thisviewoflife.com/images/sized/13716458068216-405x355.jpg)
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: ignatus on Oct 24, 08:46 AM 2014
first test
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: ignatus on Oct 24, 08:49 AM 2014
smoczoor, it's very unlikley a dozen pattern would not repeat for a very long time,
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: Smoczoor on Oct 24, 08:59 AM 2014
Quoteit's very unlikley a dozen pattern would not repeat for a very long time

yes, but you risk 1 1 2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1291 = 4069 units to won 1!!!

one bad session and your winnings gone to hell with your bankroll...
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: Turner on Oct 24, 09:04 AM 2014
Quote from: Smoczoor on Oct 24, 08:59 AM 2014
yes, but you risk 1 1 2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1291 = 4069 units to won 1!!!

one bad session and your winnings gone to hell with your bankroll...
x5. £ 5.00 table min = 20K
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: ignatus on Oct 24, 09:10 AM 2014
the risk is low, as i said, for one pattern NOT to repeat....it's very unlikley.

no risk= no profit
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: sniper on Oct 24, 09:24 AM 2014
Quotesmoczoor, it's very unlikley a dozen pattern would not repeat for a very long time,

I played BJ professionally for over 20 years.

I have been testing and playing roulette and baccarat for the past 15 years.

Believe it or not, I have tested and played almost all the systems ever posted on most of the forums for the past 15 years.

I have tested or played nearly all the systems in VIP,GG,RF,Baccarat Forum, BetSelection and many others.

I have seen it all. Whatever unlikely to happen will always happen.

I am at the casino at least 320 days a year. I am there almost every day for the last 36 years.

Best wishes and regards.
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: warrior on Oct 24, 09:28 AM 2014
Quote from: sniper on Oct 24, 09:24 AM 2014
I played BJ professionally for over 20 years.

I have been testing and playing roulette and baccarat for the past 15 years.

Believe it or not, I have tested and played almost all the systems ever posted on most of the forums for the past 15 years.

I have tested or played nearly all the systems in VIP,GG,RF,Baccarat Forum, BetSelection and many others.

I have seen it all. Whatever unlikely to happen will always happen.

I am at the casino at least 320 days a year. I am there almost every day for the last 36 years.

Best wishes and regards.
Are you up?
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: ignatus on Oct 24, 09:34 AM 2014
ok, sniper yes it's true.....but then considering the risk i think this system is still playable, for short sessions.
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: ignatus on Oct 24, 09:38 AM 2014
btw, use another progression or try flatbet? if you don't like the negative doz progression. betselection is still strong
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: sniper on Oct 24, 09:50 AM 2014
Hello Warrior,

I was up playing playing BJ using card counting, shuffle tracking ,card clumping and team play.

We disbanded when auto shuffling machine were introduced.

I am still down on baccarat, I play small and trying to find a winning method but without success.

I was up nicely on roulette, playing bias wheel until the casino changed to new modern wheels.

Herb/Caleb taught me bias wheel technique. It works nicely on the older wheels.

I am still down playing on roulette mechanical systems. I have not seen one that works.

I am now trying to work on low variance and cutting down MM to as mild as possible. Like I say, I am still TRYING.

Regards
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 24, 10:01 AM 2014
Betting on a dozen to repeat is better then betting on sleeping dozen. Flat bet
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: ignatus on Oct 24, 10:13 AM 2014
+1/-1 progression, reset when reach a new high
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: warrior on Oct 24, 10:37 AM 2014
Quote from: sniper on Oct 24, 09:50 AM 2014
Hello Warrior,

I was up playing playing BJ using card counting, shuffle tracking ,card clumping and team play.

We disbanded when auto shuffling machine were introduced.

I am still down on baccarat, I play small and trying to find a winning method but without success.

I was up nicely on roulette, playing bias wheel until the casino changed to new modern wheels.

Herb/Caleb taught me bias wheel technique. It works nicely on the older wheels.

I am still down playing on roulette mechanical systems. I have not seen one that works.

I am now trying to work on low variance and cutting down MM to as mild as possible. Like I say, I am still TRYING.

Regards
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I hear you it's hard .
Title: Re: Doppelgänger
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 24, 05:23 PM 2014
id never do a one dozen bet

however id like to see this progression played on the last dozen spin everytime