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Title: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 08, 10:27 AM 2014
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Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 08, 10:52 AM 2014
very cool

how do you know when to bet. is it always after 7 cross offs?
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 08, 11:00 AM 2014
 
Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 08, 11:03 AM 2014
ok thank you i will practice this later
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 08, 11:07 AM 2014
Ask me if you get into a jam. One thing I hate.....someone says it doesn't work BUT they are playing it wrong !!!!!!!!

Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 08, 11:16 AM 2014
im with you on that

Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 08, 12:27 PM 2014
Is this the one u speak of that Is close to perfection
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 08, 01:20 PM 2014
No, I wouldn't post that BUT in honesty, this is a DECENT method if played by the exact rules.

Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: ati on Nov 09, 04:27 AM 2014
Thanks for sharing. It did well for the first try, 79 spins, 40 units profit. (play money  ^-^)
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: ozon on Nov 09, 02:04 PM 2014
Sessions:
1.   +40 units
2.   -40  units
3.   +38 units
4.   + 34 units
5.   + 2 units
6.   +38 units
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: Turner on Nov 09, 05:05 PM 2014
one point for clarity from myself Ken

When you say "connect the left side with the right side" it could mean only waiting for a central split when a top split and a bottom split has hit like this to play 2/5

3 6
2 5
1 2

is this a trigger too?

3 6
2 5
1 2

to play 1/2

(I think so)
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 09, 05:17 PM 2014
In my view, no.

No betting ACROSS.

Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: Turner on Nov 09, 05:52 PM 2014
Quote from: MrJ on Nov 09, 05:17 PM 2014
In my view, no.

No betting ACROSS.

Ken

So we only ever play splits on column B
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 09, 08:40 PM 2014
 
Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 09, 08:46 PM 2014
so you would wait for

2---3
5---6

once those 4 numbers hit then a trigger is set and you'd bet

1---4

im thinking the answer is no because its not a north south bet?
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 09, 08:57 PM 2014
The bet is correct 1/4, that is north to south but.......

You dont need ALL 4 numbers crossed off. If the 5 hits, cross off 2/5 (per my examples). If the 3 hits, cross off the 3/6 (per my examples).

Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 09, 09:02 PM 2014
Guys.......please dont make mistakes with this. You won't bother me asking questions. Granted, it may take a day or two to answer you.

Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: Turner on Nov 10, 05:35 AM 2014
Quote from: Turner on Nov 09, 05:05 PM 2014
one point for clarity from myself Ken

When you say "connect the left side with the right side" it could mean only waiting for a central split when a top split and a bottom split has hit like this to play 2/5

3 6
2 5
1 4

is this a trigger too?

3 6
2 5
1 4

to play 1/4

(I think so)
I am officially an id*ot
I meant 1/4 in my example not 1/2
Read my quote.
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: ozon on Nov 10, 08:27 AM 2014
Hi  Mr J
I  got   one   question  about   stop   loss   and   target   profit .Becose   i  got   one   session  when   I  was  up  +22  units   , and   end  it  at -12.   What  is   Yours  target   profit  with   this   strategy.
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 10, 03:21 PM 2014
Hi.

I have a question for your question. +22 or -12 at the END of what? There are no sessions with this, its a constant bet.

Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: ozon on Nov 10, 05:36 PM 2014
At some point  of   session  i  was  +22 units   up, I  try reach  over   + 30  unit   ,  but   i   end   at   -12  units ,   this   session  was   very   long   over  180   spins.
Today   sessions  was  very  long.
1   -12   units
2.   +  30  units
3.     0  units
4.     -40  units
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 10, 10:29 PM 2014
The definition of a session is when betting comes to an END (for whatever reason), then a NEW session starts again. This method has no sessions per say, thats why I'm asking what you call a session?

There is no way you went 180 spins (bets) without a win, cant happen.

Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: ati on Nov 11, 02:30 AM 2014
I'm sure it can happen, everything can lose. Anyway, I'm playing this now with real money, only for short period of times, and I did manage to quit every time I was ahead.
My worst series so far was 48 bets without a win, but luckily I hit a couple times after that, and ended up with some profit.
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: ozon on Nov 11, 11:47 AM 2014
MrJ .My definition of a session is the same as yours.
This long session had ups and downs but end at -12 units   after   180   spins .
Last session  from  yesterday was  straight  40 losing  bets.
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: ati on Nov 11, 03:25 PM 2014
Meh, just played 171 spins, and after a hit at the last spin, I ended with -18 units. But could have been a lot worse, I was down around 70 units at one point.

What do you do, if you have the same trigger twice? For example after 2 and 3 you start betting on 1/4, then a couple spins later the ball hits 2 and 6, do you clear the previously crossed pairs?
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Nov 11, 05:26 PM 2014
Ken

This method is horribly clear!  (Some are clearly horrible!)

I'm off to Riverwind Casino in a few days to play the ol' Roulette Revolution and will try this along with Dane's "Tic Tac Toe".  (That thing still amazes me.)

Thanks for this idea.

TwoCat

Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: nowun on Nov 11, 05:58 PM 2014
Another interesting method MrJ.

On another note, welcome back TCS, good to see you posting again.  Always enjoy reading your posts.
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: Buffster on Nov 11, 06:02 PM 2014
I don't login very often ... but I just had to say GOOD TO SEE YA TCS... :smile: :ooh:


Didn't mean to hijack your thread Ken


Buffster
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: rouletteKEY on Nov 11, 08:38 PM 2014
Sam...

    how ya been?

    long time

    hope things are well for you and your better half
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 11, 09:17 PM 2014
Just to make sure, I'm gonna post some numbers from Random.org. It would be great of someone wanted to volunteer, copy/paste the numbers and tell me what numbers would be bet and I'll double check if it is correct. Maybe you Ozon? If nobody, thats cool, I'll jump in and do it.

I just want to MAKE SURE ya'll are betting correctly. I'm not real concerned so much if there are wins (I know that sounds lousey), more concerned that the betting is correct.

Great to see you TCS !!

Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 11, 09:22 PM 2014
37=0 and 38=00


12
10
28
33
16
20
20
9
15
7
35
31
19
28
21
34
15
25
2
12
27
38
17
37
23
12
16
23
10
10
34
2
29
15
9
26
12
11
29
1
8
34
24
5
6
28
10
17
38
27
6
32
14
14
3
15
30
38
5
35
30
10
10
37
34
13
23
5
9
24
16
27
5
34
12
2
12
18
5
30
31
19
31
6
13
25
4
18
14
37
35
17
32
28
10
1
6
22
17
37
25
10
31
37
8
15
18
15
14
7
24
2
26
34
17
4
32
34
22
38
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 11, 09:32 PM 2014
 
Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 11, 09:46 PM 2014
"This lon

Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Nov 11, 11:50 PM 2014
I'll give it a short run.............

12 comes....mark 12 and 9
10 comes....mark 7 and 10 and you have your first bet on the middle column, numbers 8 and 11.  Mark them with a "B".
28 comes...mark 25 and 28
33 comes...mark 33 and 36
16 comes...mark 13 and 16
20 comes...mark 20 and 23
20 comes again...ignore...
9 comes...already marked
15 comes..mark 15 and 18 and we have a new bet on the 14 and 17.  At this point I erase the board except for the "B" on 14 and 17.

Mr. J

Before I burn the midnight oil, I will let you take a look and see if I'm doing it right.  If so, I'll try to continue tomorrow.

Samster
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: ati on Nov 12, 02:53 AM 2014
Quote from: MrJ on Nov 11, 09:22 PM 2014
37=0 and 38=00


12   bet nothing
10   bet 8/11
28   bet 8/11
33   bet 8/11
16   bet 8/11
20   bet 8/11
20   bet 8/11
9     bet 8/11
15   bet14/17
7     bet14/17
35   bet14/17
31   bet 33/36
19   bet 33/36
28   bet 33/36
21   bet 20/23
34   bet 20/23
15   bet 20/23
25   bet 20/23
2     bet 20/23
12   bet 20/23
27   bet 26/29
38   bet 26/29
17   bet 26/29
37   bet 26/29
23   bet 26/29
12   bet 26/29
16   bet 15/18
23   bet 15/18
10   bet 15/18
10   bet 15/18
34   bet 15/18
2     bet 15/18
29   bet 15/18
15   HIT
9     bet nothing
26   bet nothing
12   bet nothing
11   bet 7/10
29   bet 7/10
1     bet 7/10
8     bet 7/10
34   bet 7/10
24   bet 7/10
5     bet 3/6
6     HIT
28   bet nothing
10   bet nothing
17   bet nothing
38   bet nothing
27   bet 26/29
6     bet 26/29
32   bet 26/29
14   bet 26/29
14   bet 26/29
3     bet 26/29
15   bet 13/16
30   bet 13/16
38   bet 13/16
5     bet 13/16
35   bet 13/16
30   bet 13/16
10   bet 13/16
10   bet 13/16
37   bet 13/16
34   bet 33/36
13   bet 33/36
23   bet 33/36
5     bet 33/36
9     bet 33/36
24   bet 19/22
16   bet 19/22
27   bet 19/22
5     bet 19/22
34   bet 19/22
12   bet 19/22
2     bet 19/22
12   bet 19/22
18   bet 14/17
5     bet 14/17
30   bet 14/17
31   bet 14/17
19   bet 14/17
31   bet 14/17
6     bet 1/4
13   bet 1/4
25   bet 1/4
4     HIT
18   bet nothing
14   bet nothing
37   bet 13/16
35   bet 13/16
17   bet 13/16
32   bet 13/16
28   bet 13/16
10   bet 13/16
1     bet 13/16
6     bet 2/5
22   bet 2/5
17   bet 2/5
37   bet 2/5
25   bet 2/5
10   bet 2/5
31   bet 2/5
37   bet 2/5
8     bet 9/12
15   bet 9/12
18   bet 9/12
15   bet 9/12
14   bet 13/16
7     bet 13/16
24   bet 13/16
2     bet 13/16
26   bet 13/16
34   bet 13/16
17   bet 13/16
4     bet 3/6
32   bet 3/6
34   bet 3/6
22   bet 33/36
38   bet 33/36

Hopefully I didn't make mistakes. Final result is about -52 units.
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: ozon on Nov 12, 06:30 AM 2014
I checked quickly and just play like Ati, bet selection is the same.
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Nov 14, 01:39 AM 2014
OK, I tried this today at Riverwind and did very well.  It is very easy to play this and "XOXOX" at the same time.  Riverwind has re-done their Roulette Evolution by adding two more seats and changing the betting time from 20 seconds to 30.  That's plenty of time to mark both sheets and get the bets down.

I know a single trip to a casino is no test of a method but I do see promise in this idea.

Sam
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: ati on Nov 22, 10:54 AM 2014
Looks like the more I play this, the worse series I get. The first week -playing every day- I never had to bet more than 40-50 times to hit, couple days ago I started to see 60-70 straight losing bets, but today's result topped it all with 122 losing bets in a row. You can imagine how frustrating it was. I wonder where should I have stopped.
I'm still ahead like 500 units since I started playing mainly this method and some variants, but a couple unlucky sessions, and weeks of profit can be gone.
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Nov 22, 11:52 AM 2014
(funny you brought this up)......Just got home from the casino, played THIS method for 11 hours. Did pretty damn good, not great but good. Very tired, off to bed.

Ken
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: biagle on Dec 27, 01:30 PM 2014
8
9 bet 7/10
29
17
21
1
11
19 bet 20/23 6u-
12
12         
29         
19         
34
3
12         
14
28 bet 27/30 15u-
20
22 bet 21/24 17u-
30
3
36
18
27
2 bet 1/4 23u-
23
35
5
3
15
2
11
19 bet 21/24 31u-
6
0
32
20
28
34 bet 33/36 37u-
24
13
17 bet 15/18 40u-
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: biagle on Dec 28, 01:06 PM 2014
2
19
22
6 bet 1/4
30
33
25 bet 26/29 3-
20
4
7
12 bet 8/11 7-
30
26 bet 25/28 9-
20
19 bet 21/24 11-
13
11
19
30
5
11
18 bet 14/17 18-
24
3
28
0
32
13
11
27 bet 26/29 26-
20
8
0
21 bet 19/22 30-
10
36
4
35 bet 31/34 34-
14
36
17
32
0
0
15 bet 13/16 41-
4
2 bet 3/6 43-
23
24 bet 19/22 45-
31
2
33 bet 32/35 48-
18
8
6
24
17 bet 13/16 53-
4
6 bet 2/5 55-
23
18
14 bet 13/16
13      hit 41-
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: biagle on Dec 29, 07:46 AM 2014
26
31
15
28 bet 25/30
35
23
27 hit 15+
23
1
14
9
32
9
30
35
10 bet 8/11
35
22
24 bet 20/23 12+
35
25
20 hit 27+
11
9 bet 7/10
18
27
5
15
28 bet 26/29 22+
1
19
25
34
0
15
7
29 bet 27/30
27 hit       31+
32
11
7 bet 9/12
36
35 bet 31/34 29+
36
23
26
27 bet 25/28 25+
14
16 bet 15/18 23+
0
36
8
22
34 bet 32/35 18+
0
3
25
32 hit 32+
32
24
18
16 bet 14/17
25
33
35 bet 31/34 29+
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Jan 29, 10:06 PM 2015
Hello

Finally found time to sneak away to Riverwind for some--two hours!--of play.  This method with the curious name did very well as did MRJ's "Two's Company".  I also played Dane's "Tic Tac Toe" or "XOXOX", which has always won for me.

All three of the methods are similar.  "Two's Company" is really the most fun to play as you rarely start over.  With "Basil" you start a lot of new games.  "Tic Tac Toe" can be confusing, especially with somebody asking what the little X's are for.

So.........all in all...........considering two free buffets..........a great...........but short............outing.

TwoCat
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: MrJ on Jan 31, 05:19 PM 2015
Good.

I've always felt, there are two types of two different styles of methods. (what is Ken smoking?)

All I mean is....

We are either betting on numbers that have already hit (in X number of spins) OR we are betting on numbers that have not hit (in X number of spins).

and/or

A method is constantly moving (rotating bets for whatever reason) OR the method is in sessions, stop, start over. Good/bad? Who knows, its only an observation.

Ken

Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 17, 05:39 AM 2015
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jan 29, 10:06 PM 2015
Hello

Finally found time to sneak away to Riverwind for some--two hours!--of play.  This method with the curious name did very well as did MRJ's "Two's Company".  I also played Dane's "Tic Tac Toe" or "XOXOX", which has always won for me.

All three of the methods are similar.  "Two's Company" is really the most fun to play as you rarely start over.  With "Basil" you start a lot of new games.  "Tic Tac Toe" can be confusing, especially with somebody asking what the little X's are for.

So.........all in all...........considering two free buffets..........a great...........but short............outing.

TwoCat
TCS, "Two's Company" dont seem to be able to find this one
Title: Re: Liberty with a hint of basil method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Apr 17, 09:08 AM 2015
Ken first called it "My Method".  I think it is on the VLS forum.  I have written on it many times.  Check my posts.