This may be one of my best systems- when it comes to betselection/style of attack/pattern....
it's a single dozen bet.
for dozens there can only be 3 patterns;
(R) REPEAT
(L) LAST DOZEN HIT
(N) NEW DOZEN HIT
trigger: always bet for the current pattern to repeat.
Progression; negative dozen progression 1 1 2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1291
most of the times you don't have to go very far in progression since pattern-repeats are very common;
example live-spins; LNRRNLLRLRNNRNLRLLRRLRNLNRNNLRRNNRRRRLNN
Those marked in bold are wins. (pattern-repeats)
Are you continuously betting on the last dozen hit hoping for a repeat or do you wait a few spins then hope for the patter to repeat?
Doz 1 hit
Next spin bet doz 1
Or:
Last 3 spins
Doz 1
Doz 3
Doz 2 - most recent
After observing this u then bet doz 1 on first spin doz 3 on 2nd spin doz 2 on 3rd spin
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 23, 08:36 AM 2014
Are you continuously betting on the last dozen hit hoping for a repeat or do you wait a few spins then hope for the patter to repeat?
No, as pattern change bets change.
for an example
doz 1-2-3 patterns,
1-3-2 (new doz hit) next bet would be doz 1
3-2-1 (new doz hit) next bet would be doz 3
1-2-1 (last doz hit) next bet would be doz 2
3-2-3 (last doz hit) next bet would be doz 2
1-1 (repeat) next bet would be doz 1
3-3 (repeat) next bet would be doz 3
more spins... (5u bets)
Nice work ...
Cheers
this might be a very good strategy to play online
in real world $10 minimum table you would need $700 bankroll to get to step 9 in progression
online casino with $1 minimum might be good
with this series what would your next bet be?
doz 3
doz 1
0
doz 3
0 - newest spin
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 23, 02:23 PM 2014
with this series what would your next bet be?
doz 3
doz 1
0
doz 3
0 - newest spin
doz 3-1-3 is "last dozen hit", next bet would be 1. (depending on how you handle 0, if you restart when 0 hit or not)
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 23, 07:41 AM 2014
This may be one of my best systems- when it comes to betselection/style of attack/pattern....
it's a single dozen bet.
for dozens there can only be 3 patterns;
(R) REPEAT
(L) LAST DOZEN HIT
(N) NEW DOZEN HIT
trigger: always bet for the current pattern to repeat.
Progression; negative dozen progression 1 1 2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1291
most of the times you don't have to go very far in progression since pattern-repeats are very common;
example live-spins; LNRRNLLRLRNNRNLRLLRRLRNLNRNNLRRNNRRRRLNN
Those marked in bold are wins. (pattern-repeats)
Ignatus, Congratulations on a very interesting bet selection method. Since it is mechanical I don't expect it to continue winning with so few losses in between wins. You are using a minimally modified martingale progression for single dozens. Though it may be rare, a time will come when your hands start to shake after losing 16 bets in a row and realizing that the next bet still has a 60+% chance to lose. You're already in the hole 1,233 units and your next bet is 618 units. Now I'm not criticizing your progression. That would be like the kettle calling the skillet black or whatever that figure of speech is. I would like to suggest that the Penthouse progression is fully capable of wringing out a win based on the graphs and the sequence you posted above.
As a matter of fact, if you played your above W/L sequence using 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 etc... penthouse style, your largest draw down would have been 36 units and you would have netted +83 units. The largest bet you would have had to make was 13 units. That's a little more than with your bet line, but more than 6 losses in a row are going to happen quite regularly. The penthouse mitigates the drawdowns.
If we want a progressively increasing penthouse line so we don't have to spend so much time in the hole digging our way out, we can use a line like this: 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 24 27 30 33 36 39 etc... Or you can be more aggressive up front which is where most of your wins will be like this: 1 4 7 10 13 16 18 20 22 24 26 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 35 36 36 37 37 etc... You can be the master of how much risk you want to take.
Always reset when you reach a new high bank roll amount for safety. Or you can play until you reach a win target which is often times more risky, but also is usually less time consuming.
I don't mean to say you're progression is crazy, but a martingale is a little crazy (and I know because I've suggested a lot of them and all have failed eventually) unless you know for sure your bet selection will hit within a manageable number of steps. That's a mighty tall order.
GLC
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 23, 10:02 AM 2014
No, as pattern change bets change.
for an example
doz 1-2-3 patterns,
1-3-2 (new doz hit) next bet would be doz 1
3-2-1 (new doz hit) next bet would be doz 3
1-2-1 (last doz hit) next bet would be doz 2
3-2-3 (last doz hit) next bet would be doz 2
1-1 (repeat) next bet would be doz 1
3-3 (repeat) next bet would be doz 3
Sometimes the old brain gets stuck. Please tell what you would bet after the following sets:
1-1-1
1-1-2
I think that's about all there can be.
Thanks,
GLC
Quote from: GLC on Nov 23, 10:32 PM 2014
Sometimes the old brain gets stuck. Please tell what you would bet after the following sets:
1-1-1
1-1-2
I think that's about all there can be.
Thanks,
GLC
1-1-1 is a repeat, you continue bet the repeater until it ends.
1-1-2 is not complete, you must wait another spin to see what it will be
MOST OF THE TIME
WE ARE ALIVE
MOST OF THE TIME
LET THE
PROGRESSIONS GO
Very inventive Ignatus 8)
I could see the progression used at BetVoyager, and
since Ignatus uses an RNG (RX) to test his systems it has merit.
Since this is a dozens betting system Nexus
has to win at least 40% of the time to stay profitable.
The progressions are an important part
of that, otherwise the system falls apart.
thanks proof,...but all my systems are tested with live-spins, not RNG!
more spins..5u bets
One thing i learn during all years of developing systems is that you don't need to win every bet to win overall.
You can build a progression that accept loses and still win.
For example 111122346 and so on ...
Cheers
Quote from: GLC on Nov 23, 10:32 PM 2014
Sometimes the old brain gets stuck. Please tell what you would bet after the following sets:
1-1-1
1-1-2
I think that's about all there can be.
Thanks,
GLC
also, it depends on what the previous spins was; (you always look at the two or three last dozens hit)
3-1-1-2 - this is "new dozen hit" next bet would be doz 3
2-1-1-2 - this is "last dozen hit" next bet would be doz 1
4/4 games won... 5u bets.
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 24, 09:57 AM 2014
also, it depends on what the previous spins was; (you always look at the two or three last dozens hit)
3-1-1-2 - this is "new dozen hit" next bet would be doz 3
2-1-1-2 - this is "last dozen hit" next bet would be doz 1
Ignatus, I am having a senior moment.
I dont get the bet selection. Not slightly, but at all.
I get mental blocks, and i have one right now
Quote from: Turner on Nov 24, 05:27 PM 2014
Ignatus, I am having a senior moment.
I dont get the bet selection. Not slightly, but at all.
I get mental blocks, and i have one right now
there can only be three dozen patterns, that is not so hard to understand?
3-1-1-2 - this is "new dozen hit" next bet would be doz 3 ----1-1 is calculated as 1. so it will be 3-1-2 and that is a "new dozen hit"
2-1-1-2 - this is "last dozen hit" next bet would be doz 1 ----same here 1-1 is calculated as 1. 2-1-2 is "last dozen hit"
Turner and I hate to appear so dumb, but so far it's clear as mud. Why not list all the possibilities with 4 spins sets and tell us what to bet. Here are the ones I can think of:
1 1 1 1 I assume the next bet is for 1 for a repeat
2 1 1 2 I assume the next bet is for 1
1 2 3 1 I assume the next bet is for 2
1 2 3 2 Is the next bet for 3?
1 1 2 1 Is the next bet for 2?
2 1 1 3 Is the next bet for 2?
Thanks,
GLC
Quote from: GLC on Nov 26, 12:37 AM 2014
Turner and I hate to appear so dumb, but so far it's clear as mud. Why not list all the possibilities with 4 spins sets and tell us what to bet. Here are the ones I can think of:
1 1 1 1 I assume the next bet is for 1 for a repeat
2 1 1 2 I assume the next bet is for 1
1 2 3 1 I assume the next bet is for 2
1 2 3 2 Is the next bet for 3?
1 1 2 1 Is the next bet for 2?
2 1 1 3 Is the next bet for 2?
Thanks,
GLC
yes, that's correct :)
Thanks George. I think we are getting away with it by being a dumb tag team...dumb and dumber? :thumbsup:
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Even if I don't understand exactly why on each one, rote memory has gotten me through a lot of tests.
I was thinking that all we have to do is pick what we want to bet given each combination of 4 spins. Whether it's a repeat or last dozen or new dozen shouldn't make any difference mathematically. That way we don't have to understand what to bet on the fly. :thumbsup:
Thanks
1 1 1 1 I assume the next bet is for 1 for a repeat
2 1 1 2 I assume the next bet is for 1
1 2 3 1 I assume the next bet is for 2
1 2 3 2 Is the next bet for 3?
1 1 2 1 Is the next bet for 2?
2 1 1 3 Is the next bet for 2?
Now we have the bet selection. What about the progression?
GLC?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Nov 29, 11:04 PM 2014
1 1 1 1 I assume the next bet is for 1 for a repeat
2 1 1 2 I assume the next bet is for 1
1 2 3 1 I assume the next bet is for 2
1 2 3 2 Is the next bet for 3?
1 1 2 1 Is the next bet for 2?
2 1 1 3 Is the next bet for 2?
Now we have the bet selection. What about the progression?
GLC?
Sam
Sam, I suggest the Penthouse progression. It's one of my favorites and can be tweaked to suit your risk tolerance.
By the way, I hope this cluster of postings by you means things are better in your family.
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 23, 07:41 AM 2014
This may be one of my best systems- when it comes to betselection/style of attack/pattern....
it's a single dozen bet.
for dozens there can only be 3 patterns;
(R) REPEAT
(L) LAST DOZEN HIT
(N) NEW DOZEN HIT
trigger: always bet for the current pattern to repeat.
Progression; negative dozen progression 1 1 2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1291
most of the times you don't have to go very far in progression since pattern-repeats are very common;
example live-spins; LNRRNLLRLRNNRNLRLLRRLRNLNRNNLRRNNRRRRLNN
Those marked in bold are wins. (pattern-repeats)
LLWWLWWLLLWWLLLLWWWWLLLLLLWWLWWWWWWWWLWW
With a hit rate this good, I'd flat bet after a loss and parlay once after a win.
-1 -1 +2 +6 -1 +2 +6 -1 -1 -1 +2 +6 -1 -1 -1 -1 +2 +6 +2 +6 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +2 +6 -1 +2 +6 +2 +6 +2 +6 +2 +6 -1 +2 +6
Total Losses: 18 Total Wins: 86 Profit: 68 units
By the way, I hope this cluster of postings by you means things are better in your family........said GLC.
George
Things are good!! Thank you for your wishes. My wife has a new ankle and walks two miles a day on it and her two titanium knees. No pain! What a world we live in!!
I am caught up on my yard work and it is cold here, so I'll resume my fight against the wheel.
Take care....
Sam
How is nexus fairing for those playing it?
I see the OP started a new thread with a different system. Does that mean this one is a tanker?
First we needed to track last three dozens to show up to determine one of possible three outcomes, but then the four last were needed. It's too much, I think. The more past spins we need the more we add to the confusion.
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 23, 10:02 AM 2014
No, as pattern change bets change.
for an example
doz 1-2-3 patterns,
1-3-2 (new doz hit) next bet would be doz 1
3-2-1 (new doz hit) next bet would be doz 3
1-2-1 (last doz hit) next bet would be doz 2
3-2-3 (last doz hit) next bet would be doz 2
ANY DOZEN-1-1 (repeat) next bet would be doz 1
ANY DOZEN-3-3 (repeat) next bet would be doz 3
How about that? If 2-1-1, next bet 1. If 1-1-2, next bet 1. No need to complicate IMO.
I'm going to try this at the BMC tonight.
Here's a random sample for testing. "Wiesbank Spielbaden", Table 5 today.
10 1
3 1 Already a repeat. We don't need a third spin. Bet 1
32 3 L bet 1
33 3 L bet 3
0 0 L bet 3
2 1 L bet 3
33 3 W bet 1
3 1 W bet 3
10 1 L bet 1
24 2 L bet 1
2 1 W bet 2
21 2 W bet 1
-- -- --
12 1 W bet 2
27 3 L bet 2
8 1 L bet 3
32 3 W bet 1
19 2 L bet 1
4 1 W bet 3
4 1 L bet 1
0 0 L bet 1
22 2 L bet 1
36 3 L bet 1
30 3 L bet 3
29 3 W bet 3
-- -- --
11 1 L bet 3
15 2 L bet 3
6 1 L bet 1
14 2 L bet 2
17 2 W bet 2
0 0 L bet 2
21 2 W bet 2
-- -- --
7 1 L bet 2
18 2 W bet 1
14 2 L bet 2
17 2 W bet 2
31 3 L bet 2
35 3 L bet 3
12 1 L bet 3
30 3 W bet 1
29 3 L bet 3
33 3 W bet 3
8 1 L bet 3
22 2 L bet 3
6 1 L bet 2
-- -- --
17 2 W bet 1
1 1 W bet 2
0 0 Go Home
Back from the B&M. Spent three hours there. This one's another rollercoaster. 10 spins without a hit? No, thanks.