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Title: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: TwoCatSam on Dec 05, 12:43 PM 2014
Guys and possibly ladies...........

Been seeing something for a long time while playing single numbers.  (Turner posted something like this.)  Seems I get a lot of hits right around my number on the carpet.  I'm on 1 and I get 2--that sort of thing.

So I started watching it and taking notes.

When you're on a number, say 1, you bet the numbers that "square up" to the 1--2 and 4.  Do not bet the 5 as it only touches by corner-to-corner.  You will bet either three, four or five numbers.  You always bet the number that came and his square brethren.  Say 32 comes.  You bet 32, 29, 31, 33, and 35.  Say 35 comes.  You bet 35, 32, 36 and 34.  Say 34 comes.  You bet 34, 31 and 35.  See?

I get a hit in about five spins or less.  Now, maybe I haven't watched this enough for any conclusions.  Thus the Notepad!

I would stay on the 3, 4 or 5 numbers for one bet only and do not use a progression.  If I played that is.

Now if some poor blighter would spend his Christmas holidays testing this, I'll give him a CLUE!!

Care to guess the CLUE?

Well, that's my contribution.  I can go back to bed now.

Samster
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 05, 01:04 PM 2014
When a number comes you bet the square brethren ONCE and then move onto the next?
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: TwoCatSam on Dec 05, 02:19 PM 2014
Correct!

Please remember, this is only for fun and personal amazement. 

I've found that when I mix up a few silly things that never work by themselves, I almost always walk out a winner of a little.

Sam
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: TwoCatSam on Dec 05, 03:32 PM 2014
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 05, 01:04 PM 2014
When a number comes you bet the square brethren ONCE and then move onto the next?

I should have said you bet the number that CAME and his/her brethren/sisters.
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: nowun on Dec 05, 08:03 PM 2014
Interesting Sam, just ran a small manual test on some real spins and got 80 units return after 21 spins.

Very easy idea to code in RX, will do some further testing.
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 05, 08:43 PM 2014
Dont ya wish you used 100 dollar units hehe
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 06, 03:40 PM 2014
slap me and call me sally

this works

lets get rich
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 06, 03:59 PM 2014
do you play this american, european or both?

just tested 40 spins online celtic european wheel live dealer

started with 7k, used 25 dollar units got up to 12k
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: TwoCatSam on Dec 06, 04:26 PM 2014
American.......It's all I have.
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 06, 04:36 PM 2014
I have to drive 2 hours  to get to a live dealer casino

My local casino 20 minutes away only has airball roulette where it is a real wheel but it is enclosed in glass and bets r made on screen

I might test this with 1 dollar chips there

I might sound paranoid but in the airball machines ive seen the ball do funky stuff makes me think theres magnets

But then again i did see someone win thousands  one spin after another which makes me think it is random otherwise it would have avoided that guys bets
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: TwoCatSam on Dec 06, 05:15 PM 2014
Ghost

I simply do not believe in magnets.  To get enough steel inside that little white ball for a magnet to attract it---well, I'd have to see it to believe it.

I have watched thousands upon thousands of spins and studied tens of thousands more on paper with robots.  I have seen the wheel do just about everything.  I once told Lanky I would not be surprised if a roulette wheel rolled over to the corner and took a leak on the floor.

I see just about everything on the RNG Roulette Evolution, but I also see folks win piles of money.  I long ago gave up wondering if it was rigged and just play for fun.

Sam
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 06, 06:25 PM 2014
I agree

Cool strategy, its working. For now.
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: nowun on Dec 06, 08:55 PM 2014
Here are 11 sessions using live spins from Spielbank Wiesbaden T2 for month of January 2010:

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Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 06, 09:15 PM 2014
Using this system there will be a lot of variance. Start with a bankroll of 1,000 then go to 1,000 spins
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 06, 09:22 PM 2014
There will be times you lose 10 times in a row
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 06, 10:58 PM 2014
I tweaked it. I play the way sam states but i also bet the corner numbers that touch so i bet all surrounding numbers
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: ati on Dec 07, 03:44 AM 2014
But you know in reality it is no better than betting on any random 4-5 numbers?
Here's some test results betting five numbers.
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 07, 05:41 PM 2014
still testing with fun money on live wheel

it works on american roulette much better than european

this is amazing

going to test with fake money until christmas
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 07, 06:02 PM 2014
ati,

in your testes i notice one thing, it never TANKS

therefore a progression may be useful
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: ati on Dec 07, 06:30 PM 2014
Those test results were betting on five random numbers, and not the neighbors of the last one. I just tried to show that, it doesn't really matter what you bet on. And this is true for most bet selections we come up with.
You can still win though, just like I won over 500 real units with Ken's recently published split method, but I'm sure the bet selection won't give us any mathematical advantage.
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 07, 08:23 PM 2014
so its intuitive play that will win
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 13, 05:17 AM 2015
just browsed this and added up Nowuns 11 tests, if you play to spin 100 and stop ( know theres no more,wise guys).
You'd be +97.
In Ati's 4 tests only 1 is losing.
Title: Re: The "Square Side Touching Square Side Voodoo Idea"
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 02, 07:56 PM 2015
Done a TCS revisited this and going well. played flat after 18 spins +34,another game 17 spins +55. Tomorrow look over more old spins.
All spins are rng,will look at 60 spins. Even old sheets posted in Winkels Gut.

Hammers off to a good start,COYI