is there anything that works yet? Star System? Winkel's System? Anything that wins in the long run?
I think they had something, but al the topics are deleted,, so.... No :xd:
Quote from: Rewster88 on Dec 24, 03:03 PM 2014
I think they had something, but al the topics are deleted,, so.... No :xd:
Deleted?
Falkor has been working on something.
But the spreadsheet he provided didn't have all the data in it.
He was working on a new one if I'm not mistaken.
The thread has been deleted on Falkor's request so that only members that have been registered on this forum before 24/12/2014 have seen the thread
Quote from: SamNL on Dec 24, 03:12 PM 2014
Falkor has been working on something.
But the spreadsheet he provided didn't have all the data in it.
He was working on a new one if I'm not mistaken.
The thread has been deleted on Falkor's request so that only members that have been registered on this forum before 24/12/2014 have seen the thread
My account was created waaaaaay long ago.
No
A holy grail exists. Using a roulette computer. Cant be used in todays casinos i believe. U click a mechanism on ur shoes as it passes 0 and it tells u what numbers to bet
No Grail, just at best some fairly good "semi-Grails"
(Maybe in plus overall four out of seven sessions, hit and run, flat-bet.)
...in plus overall four out of seven sessions...
...wise words
...interesting, very interesting. I think that is the WAY... ^-^...do you know???...
There was one guy kicked out of here today, his method to make money on roulette is to call a team to play together, to get from them money for the game and forgive them for everything. Hopefully will not work out.
Quote from: Jordsie669 on Dec 24, 03:00 PM 2014
is there anything that works yet? Star System? Winkel's System? Anything that wins in the long run?
What is considered a HG?
Questions:
Fun money is random on its own. A bot playing fun money converts 1K of fun money into 10K, in as many days as it takes, is that considered a HG?
A bot converting 1500 real units to 15000 real units in as many days as it takes, will that be considered a HG?
Does HG really have to go through million of spins?
If a tracker has gone through 3 sets of 10 million number's and made 1k will that be considered a HG?
Ask yourself, what is HG for you as an individual?
Quote from: Azim on Nov 14, 04:05 AM 2015
What is considered a HG?
Questions:
Fun money is random on its own. A bot playing fun money converts 1K of fun money into 10K, in as many days as it takes, is that considered a HG?
A bot converting 1500 real units to 15000 real units in as many days as it takes, will that be considered a HG?
Does HG really have to go through million of spins?
If a tracker has gone through 3 sets of 10 million number's and made 1k will that be considered a HG?
Ask yourself, what is HG for you as an individual?
A HG in most peoples eyes:
get it for free: Yes
you have to learn or work?: No
Hit ratio: every spin
do you have to bring your own money to start: No
increase of Bankroll: 1 million in 10 seconds. (btw is there one which is faster?)
Quote from: winkel on Nov 14, 06:02 AM 2015
A HG in most peoples eyes:
get it for free: Yes
you have to learn or work?: No
Hit ratio: every spin
do you have to bring your own money to start: No
increase of Bankroll: 1 million in 10 seconds. (btw is there one which is faster?)
Got it right there winkel :thumbsup:
An HG system would be any practical (playable) method that makes a profit over time. It is also generally believed that it must win flat-betting, to win with any progression.
..........and yes, it should actually be free, as the creator would no longer have need for any money. Just the credit for creating the HG would suffice.
No member has presented proof of an actual HG as of yet...........just a bunch of "theories" :sad2:
Quote from: thelaw on Nov 14, 09:20 AM 2015
No member has presented proof of an actual HG as of yet...........just a bunch of "theories" :sad2:
Maybe theres more going on then whats been in the open here !! 8)
I posted HG in randomness studies but admin deleted, reason was "server issue" and it is not a bunch of theories.
Please Post again....or send me a pm please. Thx
Quote from: denzie on Nov 14, 09:30 AM 2015
Maybe theres more going on then whats been in the open here !! 8)
Ah! That old chestnut.........one of
John Legend's greatest hits.....or was it
Falkor.........or was it
Kimo Li..........
Yes......and perhaps some members have supernatural powers, but are holding back because we can't handle the truth............. :yawn:
Here's the truth. .... there is more then 1 hg.
And that's a fact.
But another fact is that those members will never share for people like you to not know.
THAT'S A TRUE FACT.
I cannot talk for others .... but just stupid me got 1 method that till today still need to lose its first session.
###reremoved#####. You seriously think me or other respected members gonna share it in the open ? That's a big no.
But what happens behind the scenes is a whole different story.
Is there a hg ? Yes . The end
I think people who say "is their a HG" mean is there a system that always produces a 45°, always upward graph.
The answer is no.
As Law points out...It's not on any forum dating back to early internet.
Can you play better than just randomly throwing chips down? If that's a yes then you must have some kind of edge musnt you :question:
That's the point. Playing better than random
To play better than random...there has to be an edge
What is that edge?
If you don't know.....why are you playing it.?
Quote from: denzie on Nov 14, 02:00 PM 2015
Here's the truth. .... there is more then 1 hg.
And that's a fact.
Is there a hg ? Yes . The end
It's not a fact until proven. Just COS you say it is doesn't make it a fact
Also....you are close to breaking rule 9
Basically talks about bragging with no proof
Turner....I'm gonna be honest. I really not like you. I even think your doing a bad job as a Mod. But that's only my opinion.
And about the hg....your not involved in a world where people share with you.
Proof? Why proof so that people that don't deserve get it?
Those who know will not speak. As for now...I do you and some others a favor and shut up and leave.
If you see that some members not post anymore. ...2 options...or they tired/take a break or......they/we have something solid.
Hell I even win on RNG. But I know. ..or deleted or blabla show proof.
There's more than 1 hg. There really are people who make more than a good living out of it. But they will never tell it.
I know 3 members here that make big bucks . AND THAT'S A FACT.
Anyway you can delete this too. After all. ...it's what you do best. It sure isn't roulette. AND THAT'S ANOTHER FACT.
There are many methods that beat roulette with such a high edge. But most people are looking for something simpler.
Quote from: winkel on Nov 14, 06:02 AM 2015
A HG in most peoples eyes:
get it for free: Yes
you have to learn or work?: No
Hit ratio: every spin
do you have to bring your own money to start: No
increase of Bankroll: 1 million in 10 seconds. (btw is there one which is faster?)
I´ve forgotten one point (thx to "thelaw")
It has to be prooven. At minimum over 10 000 000 spins. Better would be til the end of days.
I here by ask you openly. ...
Delete all my posts.
All
Thx
I cannot delete your posts
Quote from: denzie on Nov 14, 02:37 PM 2015
Turner....I'm gonna be honest. I really not like you. I even think your doing a bad job as a Mod. But that's only my opinion.
And about the hg....your not involved in a world where people share with you.
Proof? Why proof so that people that don't deserve get it?
Those who know will not speak. As for now...I do you and some others a favor and shut up and leave.
If you see that some members not post anymore. ...2 options...or they tired/take a break or......they/we have something solid.
Hell I even win on RNG. But I know. ..or deleted or blabla show proof.
There's more than 1 hg. There really are people who make more than a good living out of it. But they will never tell it.
I know 3 members here that make big bucks . AND THAT'S A FACT.
Anyway you can delete this too. After all. ...it's what you do best. It sure isn't roulette. AND THAT'S ANOTHER FACT.
someones tetchy >:D
Quote from: Turner on Nov 14, 03:19 PM 2015
someones tetchy >:D
Just delete...like I was never here.
Thx
Quote from: denzie on Nov 14, 05:28 PM 2015
Just delete...like I was never here.
Thx
We dont like deleting posts because some other posts have quotes from them, then they need deleting.
It gets messy.
I can ban you if you wish. Then you wont be here.
Its up to you mate
Let me know
Take care
Mumbo. If ur post was deleted. Repost it?
Mumbo, your post wouldn't be deleted unless it broke simple rules
Quote from: winkel on Nov 14, 02:48 PM 2015
I´ve forgotten one point (thx to "thelaw")
It has to be prooven. At minimum over 10 000 000 spins. Better would be til the end of days.
Question still remains, how can you prove it?
Do you have someone enter number's into a program manually?
Do you create a tool that will read your system from a 10 million spin file and produce graphs?
How do you prove it?
Quote from: Steve on Nov 14, 11:04 PM 2015
Mumbo, your post wouldn't be deleted unless it broke simple rules
A simple rule is not to speak about HG. I can't repost again RG because of rules :( it is better to stay away from HG.
That's just a rubbish response.
Azim, there are simple ways to properly test a system. But you can never get 100% certainty that the system works. 99.99% yes, but never 100%. The more testing, the more certainty.
Quote from: Steve on Nov 15, 04:23 AM 2015
Azim, there are simple ways to properly test a system. But you can never get 100% certainty that the system works. 99.99% yes, but never 100%. The more testing, the more certainty.
Totally agree. However, how do you test it, is the question?
Play with real money to prove it or run through a million spin file and simulate and produce graphs?
Quote from: Turner on Nov 14, 05:31 PM 2015
We dont like deleting posts because some other posts have quotes from them, then they need deleting.
It gets messy.
I can ban you if you wish. Then you wont be here.
Its up to you mate
Let me know
Take care
Deleting worked with falkor´s threads. despite of other peoples posts in them
Quote from: winkel on Nov 15, 07:36 AM 2015
Deleting worked with falkor´s threads. despite of other peoples posts in them
If you check, Falkors posts arnt deleted
There are 61 posts
Quote from: Turner on Nov 15, 08:38 AM 2015
If you check, Falkors posts arnt deleted
There are 61 posts
I wasn´t talking about "posts" I was talking about "threads(topics)"
Quote from: winkel on Nov 15, 08:50 AM 2015
I wasn´t talking about "posts" I was talking about "threads(topics)"
Well Denzie was. He said delete all my posts
Quote from: Turner on Nov 15, 09:08 AM 2015
Well Denzie was. He said delete all my posts
Delete all my threads.
Thx
Quote from: Steve on Nov 15, 04:20 AM 2015
That's just a rubbish response.
Let me give you a hint "press button for another server issue" ;D
Quote from: denzie on Nov 15, 09:10 AM 2015
Delete all my threads.
Thx
Perhaps you need to ask steve or something. Im not deleting all yoir posts
Quote from: MumboJumbo on Nov 15, 09:12 AM 2015
Let me give you a hint "press button for another server issue" ;D
Toxic pollutants is the first thought when i see you post
Quote from: Turner on Nov 15, 09:35 AM 2015
Perhaps you need to ask steve or something. Im not deleting all yoir posts
OK I'll ask a more experienced mod.
Nvm
....
Quote from: denzie on Nov 15, 12:16 PM 2015
OK I'll ask a more experienced mod.
Nvm
....
You do that
Done... ;)
HG it is an inspired formulation but we cannot create holy entities.
The truth is roulette softwares can't generate random numbers. Is not possible a thing like that. Can only emulate random behaviour using polynomial functions.
But... any casino is using a much better tactic because will get much more money creating the feeling you can win.
"The casinos software is adaptive, will generate numbers starting with very predictible strings. They must give you the illusion you can win easily. For the same reason, if you repeat some numbers, the generated number will be just next to your favourite number on the wheel. "You were so close!" is saying the software, "keep playing"!
THERE IS NOTHING RANDOM ABOUT THE ROULETTE SOFTWARE. This is the key!
The numbers are really predictible. Only you must know several things about the software. I really don't understand why I am the first I have discovered how you can win at roulette so easy. In fact I think there are others people knowing this incredible stuff but they don't want to share it. I was not absolutely sure I want to share it, but some facts made me change my mind. Probably I will do this.
I can win in every session and I know exactly when I should stop playing. The casino software is telling me this very clearly. (I am talking about online roulettes where I can use my tool; and I am talking about real money session not free playing where anyone can win with any method)
Unless you show proof or a free trial you are done here
It is nice that someone finally discovered how to win in roulette in every session. You are the first and maybe last who really know.
He already got one! It's very nice sir!
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yjNbcKkNY (link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yjNbcKkNY)
I am not kidding. I have the system. Is the result of 9 years of work. I have posted here a topic yesterday and was deleted. Also I have received a spam warning. I have red the terms again. I will place what is all about in the "sale section" maybe tomorrow. I don't have time now. I am not very sure I want to share everything, I will think about that. It is amusing anyway how people react. Very soon my system (I will call it "Poetry of numbers", just for the record) will be practically the only system. And guess what: the casinos will not change very soon the algorithms because their earnings are based on this continuosly "quest" on levels of dificulty; trust me, roulette is a skill game more than any other; I have "decrypted" the algorithm till difficulty level 8, no need for more.
I think we all should wait before saying anything........
Quote from: Glenn Stevens on Nov 19, 07:45 AM 2015
I am not kidding. I have the system. Is the result of 9 years of work. I have posted here a topic yesterday and was deleted. Also I have received a spam warning. I have red the terms again. I will place what is all about in the "sale section" maybe tomorrow. I don't have time now. I am not very sure I want to share everything, I will think about that. It is amusing anyway how people react. Very soon my system (I will call it "Poetry of numbers", just for the record) will be practically the only system. And guess what: the casinos will not change very soon the algorithms because their earnings are based on this continuosly "quest" on levels of dificulty; trust me, roulette is a skill game more than any other; I have "decrypted" the algorithm till difficulty level 8, no need for more.
Ok, let's say you have something.
If you want to share it, great, we appreciate.
If you want to sell it, that's OK too, sell it, just say it open and from the start.
If you don't want to share it or sell it, that's also cool, just keep it to yourself. I understand that.
But if you come with riddles, or "sharing" part's of what you know, it's best you don't even start it...
Please, please sir share everything with us, you decrypted the algo of rng, cool, :thumbsup:
Mumbo Jumbo, you don't understand. There is nothing random about roulette software. RNG is a myth. Cannot be done, and, more than that, the casinos don't want to use any RNG emulation. The reason is: this way will gain less money. Is very simple. Forget about random. I suppose you understand what this means...
Ok thank you sir, I will tested your system and post results here, I think this should really work.
Quote from: MumboJumbo on Nov 19, 10:55 AM 2015
Ok thank you sir, I will test your system and post results here, I think this should really work.
Mumbo you've bought it. Great. Soon we'll see the results
Mumbo said he has the holy grail but the moderators deleted it. So why is he interested in this
Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 19, 11:34 AM 2015
Mumbo you've bought it. Great. Soon we'll see the results
;D :xd: ;D ;D