playing the numbers off the mat, 22 numbers been hit leaving 15 to be hit.
Now using my method those 15 numbers usually come in in three spins,but this time they had missed for three spins, so i laid the 15 unhit numbers (or thought i had) i'd missed laying number 29.
Now this is rng W.Hill betting shop, you guessed right the number 29 came in,SO WAS I CHEATED OR JUST BAD LUCK THAT THE ONLY NUMBER OF THE 15 NOT COVERED CAME IN
notto
I don't know if this is a real wheel or what, but I've had things very similar happen to me. Seems every bet I fail to play when I should will win. However, this is confirmation bias as you only see the ones that hit when you failed to bed and not the ones that didn't.
Sam
firstly, i have heard bad things about william hill
secondly, dont play RNG
i learned the hard way
i played marty with 25 cent bets after seeing red 10 times in a row and failed....
did the same with high/low and failed
RNG is a trap
Your playing RNG at a bookies & think your a roulette player ?
Looks like your bus broke down.......
O0
DD
lol, no the bus came just not on it
Haven't you read the many warnings about william hill? i get more complaints about them than any casino. Refused payouts, locked accounts and more. It wouldn't surprise me if their rng was payout based and not proper rng. It's not uncommon.
Unless u want to loose ur $, why play rng in the 1st place.....; any serious player knows it's
not real roulette...... :o
Quote from: Chris555p on Mar 30, 07:16 PM 2015
Unless u want to loose ur $, why play rng in the 1st place.....; any serious player knows it's
not real roulette...... :o
That may be very true and I tend to agree with you, but I have been playing regularly using a method I found on this forum on a RNG only site successfully for over two years. The site is not Betvoyager, although I do use BV occasionally and prefer live dealer.
There are honest RNG sites, you just have to find them. This one has been around since 1997 and has a very good reputation and high rating on Casinomeister.
If you want to find the method look back 3 years and search for it, I did and it took me
months of time consuming work, the member who posted it has not frequented the forum since he posted it. Go figure.
I heat casino meister just promotes casinos. Can u share your rng method? I am very skeptical of rng. I lost my shirt. Over 1000 dollars using 25 cent units. The ball always landed away from me. Casino meister promotes casinos which makes me question them. Who knows if its really rng
Somebody tell me what "real roulette" is.
Leave off the wheel and ball and dealer and tell me what "real roulette" is..
I'm dyin' to know...
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 30, 09:16 PM 2015
Somebody tell me what "real roulette" is.
Leave off the wheel and ball and dealer and tell me what "real roulette" is..
I'm dyin' to know...
I'm not dying to know, but I agree with you Sam. I find testing with random.org numbers is just as good as live dealer numbers.
If the choices are RNG or nothing (you dont live close to a casino)......I would pick not to play.
RNG? I have to laugh, sorry. I *THINK* DublinBet and Celtic look pretty decent.
Ken
Hi
Am I wrong or didn't Blaise Paschal or some ol' dude invent the roulette wheel as a way to select a random number??
So--gasp!!--the roulette wheel is a random number generator albeit a mechanical one.
People can say what they want of the RNG at Riverwind, but I've seen too many people win some hefty payouts to believe they are cheating sometimes and sometimes they aren't.
Here in my world, you either play the RNG or a device like "Wheel of Fortune" where a card selects a number. It gets around the laws but it cost you $1 every time you place a bet. That's a vig of a buck. It is not your bet; it never comes back!
Would you play? Yes, they line up to get a seat at the darn thing!!
Sam
I had serious suspicions about the online RNG BlackJack for a long time until I played alot of live dealer and got an almost identical run of "bad luck". After that I stopped worrying about it and started winning regularly at Bluesquare Casino RNG. I had a great run with them until they banned me for being from Australia after they, along with many UK online casinos banned Australians.
3 years... o we find that in a few minutes. Lol . Mission impossible. And about rng...if the website is honest .......then my 1000nrs work excellent. But u need time.
RNG vs live has been discussed many times before. There are probably cheating rng's, but the honest ones are no different from a live wheel. I'm very close to double my roll this year playing only rng. I started with over 20000 units.
There are members here who ran up â,¬50 deposits to 5-10k on BV, and there are members who told me in PM, that they're winning just about every session. Don’t forget that real wheel system players fail just as often as rng players. One might lose faster on rng, because 1 hour play on a fast rng could equal to 5-10 hours of live play.
Quote from: ati on Mar 31, 02:44 AM 2015
RNG vs live has been discussed many times before. There are probably cheating rng's, but the honest ones are no different from a live wheel. I'm very close to double my roll this year playing only rng. I started with over 20000 units.
There are members here who ran up â,¬50 deposits to 5-10k on BV, and there are members who told me in PM, that they're winning just about every session. Don’t forget that real wheel system players fail just as often as rng players. One might lose faster on rng, because 1 hour play on a fast rng could equal to 5-10 hours of live play.
That is what every "loser" forgets, RNG is really fast so you play a lot more spins in a very short time, this amplifies how quick you win or lose. Blackjack is the same. I played RNG Blackjack on Bluesquare and won over $100,000 in five hours playing $50-$16,000 per hand, at one point I was up over $250,000, then hit a losing run. From memory I think I wagered well over $1,000,000.
Thanks for all the replies.
Was it a cheat or just my bad luck, if i'd placed the missed chip i would have won. So just bad luck ?
The 15 numbers were 0,1,5,12,15,18,19,24,25,27,28,29,31,33,36. red are in the 12 numbers from the tier, could of hit 18 right next door or even two pockets on 28.
Anyway you play as if its live roulette but we all know its an egm, so playing a prog, whats wrong with playing a prog as long as the software cant blatantly cheat you,perhaps like in this topic?
About two weeks ago at Riverwind I saw four 00s in the space of nine spins. After the first two, a guy bet about $5--which is huge for Riverwind as most play .25---and won. He then bet again and won even bigger.
I saw a guy playing the zeros once and his stack was:
A huge pile on the 0/00, zero, the double zero, the zero pocket and he was betting the splits 0-1 and son on. His stack of chips was huge. He won. Why would a crooked RNG let him--and my wife--win?
People tell me the greens come all time. I record numbers as they come and it is not unusual to go 75 spins and NO green.
I quit worrying about the RNG being crooked and now I worry about Sam.
TwoCat
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 31, 09:02 AM 2015
I quit worrying about the RNG being crooked and now I worry about Sam.
Exactly how it should be. Most gamblers are notoriously bad losers, very quick to cry fowl. Guilty here as well. Although some really are crooked. Usually short term ones though.
exactly Sam, why do they need to cheat. Looking back at a sheet 18.3.15 paddy power 2nd spin zero 17 spins another zero,11 spins later zero. 3 zeros, so lets look at that 3 zeros in 30 spins on rng, its worth 108 units, next 30 spins no zero, so we might not see another zero for 78 spins as its balanced from the time we started betting
Quote from: nowun on Mar 30, 08:36 PM 2015
the member who posted it has not frequented the forum since he posted it.
You mean memeber "vile"?
Ah, Vile, aka FLATman
If it's that thing that switches from last to first, it is not a winner long term. I paid for a sheet to put that into the ExcelBot and tested it on real spins from Spielbank. I tried everything I could and I could not make it work.
But "Vile" was around for quite a while, no?
Sam
I am looking at this one: link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9638.msg81551#msg81551 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9638.msg81551#msg81551) .
Naan, I tested this one extensively for about a month and it tanks; I believe there are some tweaks
to it but Vile did not put in the the post in the forum......
May be nowun or someone else who knows can tell us who this intelligent person who posted the
system is or was.....??
Yep, that's the one I tested with the bot. It's not any worse than any other, but don't expect to set it and forget it and make money. I did learn one very interesting thing---which I have never followed up on.
The bets on "last" seem to hit in streaks more than "furthest". After one hit, there was almost always another.
Twocat, betting last 3 DS to show?
Last 9 splits vs oldest 9 splits.
twocat, i love that idea!
i will test looking at the past 9 numbers and betting them as a split with another number
Here is the sheet I had written. Put in numbers until it tells you to bet.
Notice that when "last" wins, there may be four or more in a row. You do not see that with "furthest".
Sam
Evening fellow rouletters
What do you lot think. BOOKIES ROULETTE today need a pound to spin so not to give a pound i play 6 DS, providing no zero, money back, well today had 5 games. Now i need 10 spins to see where i'm in game play,so hope to cheap spin for 10, now 4 of the five games get a zero in two games and the other two games 2 zeros, does the software recognise me and know to give a zero as cheap spinning
It is possible. What's the limit on inside bets? Can you put like 10p on 0 for insurance?
yes .20p could go on zero, but then you dont see one. Last game to nite
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0 this zero came and yes was doing a cheap spin.
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Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 30, 08:43 PM 2015
I heat casino meister just promotes casinos. Can u share your rng method? I am very skeptical of rng. I lost my shirt. Over 1000 dollars using 25 cent units. The ball always landed away from me. Casino meister promotes casinos which makes me question them. Who knows if its really rng
You lost lost 14 spins on the bounce + 10 virtual losses, so your colour missed 24 times in a row, while that is VERY rare to see, it is not impossible, the max i have ever heard of in a row is 27, is the reason i stay away from ALL ec bets
As of lately RouletteGhost has been informed of a winning EC system and hopefully will adapt this method. The method stems from an experienced professional gambler and NOT from the usual forum know it all wannabe roaming message boards.
Roulette Ghost.
HAPPY WINNIJNGS .
Nathan Detroit