This is similar to "General Cluster I" which was a working system, but soon forgotten. Result from the first test is amazingly good. It can just be a run of luck? I doubt, but usually i have great results from the first test , then it bust later on. So, more testing of this system is needed!
Trigger: For each new spin, bet the current number hit and 1 neighbour on the wheel (3 numbers) up to 12 numbers bet, then STOP the progressive bet, and start a 12 numbers negative progression.
so the bet will be 3+3+3+3 numbers.
After the fourth spin start a 12 numbers negative progression
2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1291
since hitrate is pretty good i think this could be flatbetted also (haven't tried that yet!)
Here are the numbers =(and their 1 neighbouring numbers)
wheel neighbors
0= 26,32
1= 20,33
2= 21,25
3= 26,35
4= 19,21
5= 10,24
6= 27,34
7= 28,29
8= 23,30
9= 22,31
10= 5,23
11= 30,36
12= 28,35
13= 27,36
14= 20,31
15= 19,32
16= 24,33
17= 25,34
18= 22,29
19= 4,15
20= 1,14
21= 2,4
22= 9,18
23= 8,10
24= 5,16
25= 2,17
26= 0,3
27= 6,13
28= 7,12
29= 7,18
30= 8,11
31= 9,14
32= 0,15
33= 1,16
34= 6,17
35= 3,12
36= 11,13
Test 2, played with 5u bets, highest step in progression was 16u (step 6 in progression!)
Test 3, highest step in progression was 24u, (7th step in progression)
Damn! I wished I played this for real money! :wink:
3085 units profit in 356 spins.
Highest progression 122
See my attached wiesbaden session.
I like it, maybe flat bet would work also.
But the progression can be dangerous sometimes.
Lol made an error in my favor.
A win is 24 not 23. so probaly even more than 3085 units! :D
I'm very curious how long this method will hold.
Quote from: CocaVillaLaNoche on May 23, 03:14 AM 2015
Damn! I wished I played this for real money! :wink:
3085 units profit in 356 spins.
Highest progression 122
See my attached wiesbaden session.
I like it, maybe flat bet would work also.
But the progression can be dangerous sometimes.
Great! :) Thanks for testing
hey guys this my favorite system and i ve played it from when i was a kid, only a smooth progression could work with this , i play less numbers flat betting , the progression u suggest is suicide .as every other system if u set a target and using a trigger when to start , stop, it can be a constitent winner . :wink:
Played a second session but only counted the losses and wins.
Didn't calculate everything too much work.
1 time 13 step progression. too dangerous and too large BR.
Flat bet also won't work.
But with a good progression this method can be a winner.
After the fourth spin start a 12 numbers negative progression
2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1291 <<< How do you/I play this at the casino?
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on May 23, 03:03 PM 2015
After the fourth spin start a 12 numbers negative progression
2 3 5 7 11 16 24 36 54 81 122 183 275 412 618 927 1291 <<< How do you/I play this at the casino?
Ken
yes, it's complicated playing live, yes considering the timelimit to place the bets, keep track on the bets and all etc.....then it comes down to tablelimit, but from my tests i haven't gone beyond 24u,...(7th step)
perhaps playing with a smaller version can work 3 or 3+3
Turbo would post many methods like this (God bless the guy), unrealistic to play. Yes, it looks GREAT on paper etc.
When you do "well" at the casino on a consistent basis, you will notice the dealer(s) trying to spin the ball faster between bets. With me, makes no difference. My bets are few numbers and nothing complicated. Why? I HAVE TO.....they are doing their best to f**k up my mojo.
FOR ME......
A) Actual casino only.
B) 2-4 numbers max.
C) Flat betting only.
D) Must know your next bet in a COUPLE seconds, no calculating.
E) Must know when a session ends/starts without calculating (fast).
F) Keeping in mind, you have your stacks in front of you, you will NOT know exactly how much up OR down.
Granted, if playing at busy casino times, you will have a FEW extra seconds to get your s**t together, NO MISTAKES !!!!
All this put together, my job is quite tough at the casino, 100% focus and zero goofing around.
Get in, slice their throats and out the door, absolute combat mode.
Ken
i've made some strategies 2-4 numbers in the "1-4 numbers"-section, perhaps you can comment on that?
Good thing to consider, your approach.
Thanks
MrJ is in the class of Christian Kaisan, a German Professioal gambler who has taken the the casinos worldwide for millions. ` The Austrian casino lost a case against him by revokingmhis ban and paying him his huge amount of winnings.
I believe he was/ is a SINGLE number operator. Poster " Winkel" should certainly know him too.
Tamino
Mr J speaks wisely, yes.
If you enjoy making systems Ignatus, keep doing
what you've been doing. It's at least entertaining. :)
Quote from: MrJ on May 23, 03:45 PM 2015
Turbo would post many methods like this (God bless the guy), unrealistic to play. Yes, it looks GREAT on paper etc.
When you do "well" at the casino on a consistent basis, you will notice the dealer(s) trying to spin the ball faster between bets. With me, makes no difference. My bets are few numbers and nothing complicated. Why? I HAVE TO.....they are doing their best to f**k up my mojo.
FOR ME......
A) Actual casino only.
B) 2-4 numbers max.
C) Flat betting only.
D) Must know your next bet in a COUPLE seconds, no calculating.
E) Must know when a session ends/starts without calculating (fast).
F) Keeping in mind, you have your stacks in front of you, you will NOT know exactly how much up OR down.
Granted, if playing at busy casino times, you will have a FEW extra seconds to get your s**t together, NO MISTAKES !!!!
All this put together, my job is quite tough at the casino, 100% focus and zero goofing around.
Get in, slice their throats and out the door, absolute combat mode.
Ken
Ken,
I love reading your posts but is it really that simple? With simple I mean bet selection.
Betting 2-4 numbers, lets say on hot numbers/repeaters with good BR + stop/loss + self discipline + control ect... and you have a winner? or is it much more complicated than I think?
And do you use only 1 method/strategy every time you visit the casino?
That simple? No but I could ask the opposite question......how bad would it be to have a great bet selection but the person lacks all of my above points? What is the definition of bet selection (good or bad)? In my opinion..... *WHY* are we choosing these numbers and *WHY* are we betting them for "X" number of spins? The WHY of it is the bet selection. Bob feels his B.S. is better than Joe's.
Who is right? I dont know. I choose mine SOLELY BASED off of past failures, testing/actual play. I base few methods off of success. I did not even talk about BR in my last post. You can not walk in with $300 and expect to walk out with 3K, sorry. $300? I would stay home.
As discussed many times, playing a FORM of hot numbers, there has to be hundreds of different ideas, even if the method is different by one small rule. I said it before, we are either playing some form of hot numbers (already hit) or we are playing some form of method based off of what has not hit (in "X" number of spins). I really dont see a third option. (Not counting maybe a mix of the two). ALREADY HIT or NOT ALREADY HIT.........thats it.
I probably play 80% of methods regarding hot numbers and 20%, some form of not hit recently but NOT ice cold. Why bet on a number that has not hit in 200 spins? When I walk in, I have a method already in mind but I bring 1-2 back-up methods just in case things go south fast (lol).
Any person who says they win everyday is full of bulls**t. On your losing days, dont just get pissed about it.....LEARN FROM IT !!!!!!! Is your method "somewhat" decent but needs some tweaking? Go home and get to it. Many times I would play (at the casino) for 4 hours, lose, go home and study why I lost for the next 10 hours, no lie !!!!
I would stock up on snacks and GO TO IT. Forget going out with friends and forget going to the movies etc.
I have nothing against forums but I do not like the mentality of sitting around and waiting for it to DROP in a persons lap. Here is step one......playing a Marty on the even bets. Does it work? Nope, now go from there.....step 2, step 3, step 4, step 5, step 6, step 7 etc. etc.
Sorry to ignatus for wrecking your thread, oops.
Ken
Thanks for your realistic answer! ;)