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Title: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 07, 08:17 PM 2015
Hey guys

I found a way to bet 6 quads (24 numbers) flat

I am up substantially flat betting

I have reviewed live spins and have not seen more than 2 losses in a row yet

a lot of win streaks
a lot of wlwlwlw
a lot of :l:l:
occasionally ll
never lll

i have had this on auto bet on celtic European wheel for over one hour and am up 34 units (flat betting) a standard 1 3 9 progression would have won by 9 each and everytime and id be up bigger

i cant explain why but it works

as of right now for a 24 number bet i classify this is a great bet selection and it may be safe for a progression, more testing needed

if you want to test please post results

the quad bets:
2-3-5-6
7-8-10-11
13-14-16-17
20-21-23-24
25-26-28-29
31-32-34-35

place one chip on each
flat bet unit your goal of say 20 units

see attached image...thats with $25 chips, $1,000 starting balance

Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 07, 09:20 PM 2015
Over 2 hours in

Still only 2 losses in a row max

This is the first time ive ever seen a 24 number bet have a max of 2 losses in a row in over 2 hours of every single spin play . Would never happen betting the dozens the way the casino wants you to

Every spin
No trigger
8)

Edit: one 3L in 120 minutes of play

Wlwlwlwlw will put u down since it is 24 numbers

Betting every spin i fight through....

It has recovered flat. The drawdown has never gone below 8 units down from original balance

24 number bet recovering flat bet...cant ask for much more
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: bckwrds on Jun 07, 09:50 PM 2015
mate i just did a quick test. 3 groups of 300spins. all tanked pretty hard flatbet. I had a 5L and a 6L with a fair few 3s and 4s mixed in.
One thing that might make this better is stopping after a loss waiting for a virtual win then resuming. Doing this the biggest L string was 4. Not sure if doing that would make it viable to flatbet or you'd need a prog which could get dicey.

how'd you go at the track?
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 07, 09:53 PM 2015
My results are much different with largest drawdon being 8 units from original balance

Thanks for testing. Im going to keep going

The track was fun i saw history made. American pharoah won triple crown

I put my money on the 2nd place horse

See image below. Almost 3 hours in. Flatbetting. Starting balance 1000, still up
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 07, 10:27 PM 2015
Still going

Hundreds of spins flatbet up 16 units
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 08, 08:23 AM 2015
How about a positive progression: up 1 unit after 3 consecutive wins.  Less 1 on a loss.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 08:30 AM 2015
Yes a positive progression would be good

So would strings of 5
1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3 3

After over 400 live spins flat bet i was up 8 units. My largest drawdown was also 8 units. My high was 48 units profit. It recovered flat everytime it went down

When i say drawdown i mean units below starting balance

Maybe my run was luck but it looks promising with even a very mild progression
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 10:10 AM 2015
If you test

please have a chip on 0. It is one of the reasons my drawdown was so small
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: vladir on Jun 08, 10:23 AM 2015
Well... if it's that safe as you seem to present us... What's the maximum consecutive losses you experienced?

What about, after you experience such a string of losses, note current BR at this moment (lets cal it BR-1). Increase bet unit by 1 and keep it until this BR-1 stage is increased(and then drop 1 unit in betting), or until a new big string of losses occurs, in wich case you note the BR-2 increase and again increase 1 unit.  This should help to recover a litle bit faster, withouth much risk...

Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 10:41 AM 2015
Max consecutive loss as i explained was 3. One time. Thats with a chip on 0

Good idea
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 08, 11:32 AM 2015
Is that the system  passed on by the old  Chinaman before he  died? ?
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 11:33 AM 2015
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 08, 11:32 AM 2015
Is that the system  passed on by the old  Chinaman before he  died? ?

Hmmmm. I dont understand. Who?
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 08, 11:53 AM 2015
The results are holding  up  rather well. No chnage for  the past 2  weeks  either way.





Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 11:54 AM 2015
Awesome tamino :thumbsup:

For me recovers flat which is astounding

If it continues this way small progression will be used
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tomla021 on Jun 08, 02:54 PM 2015
will test this later RG!!
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: buffalowizard on Jun 08, 03:30 PM 2015
looked good, first couple hundred german spins I checked. No more than 2 consecutive losses.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 04:12 PM 2015
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 08, 03:30 PM 2015
looked good, first couple hundred german spins I checked. No more than 2 consecutive losses.

Similar results. Went 2 and a half hours with 2 losses max before i ever saw 3L and it was only once. As tomla suggested to me +1/-1 might be very good for this

+1/-1 with this bet selection wont be too out of hand
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 08, 04:37 PM 2015
RouleteGhost

I have  played  both reptiles according to the prescribed trigger method and one is  as good as the other.Might as well chose one or the other.



Tamino
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 04:39 PM 2015
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 08, 04:37 PM 2015
RouleteGhost

I have  played  both reptiles according to the prescribed trigger method and one is  as good as the other.Might as well chose one or the other.



Tamino

That's what i was thinking. These results are awesome
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 08, 05:04 PM 2015
No problem  playing this  system  at a  0/00 live table.


For  recreational purposes only.Play at your own risk.

'Tamino





Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 05:09 PM 2015
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 08, 05:04 PM 2015
No problem  playing this  system  at a  0/00 live table.


For  recreational purposes only.Play at your own risk.

'Tamino

My results are so good on euro wheel im scared to try it on american

However i will try it tonight same as i did this one. Flat bet it auto bet 40 spins
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 05:29 PM 2015
Tamino,

I had and just tested 200 live american wheel spins

i had 3 consecutive losses in a row 4 times within those 200 real wheel spins

never went more then 3 in a row and 2 out of the 4 "three consecutive losses" was due to a number repeat

up to now i have found something i really enjoy

european yielded better results for me, i only had one 3 consecutive loss as opposed to 4 on american within 200 spins

at the moment i feel confident with a 1 virtual loss trigger and a progression

this is pretty damn good....3 consecutive loss max, you cant say that if you just choose 2 dozens to bet on..

with proper money management this is golden
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Interstate89 on Jun 08, 06:04 PM 2015
I checked the RNG and the +1 at loss and -1 at win kills your bankroll. In situations like LWLWLWL or LWWLWWLWWL you are chasing the losses and you bank goes down. Dont know how it goes with flat bet.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 06:09 PM 2015
Quote from: Interstate89 on Jun 08, 06:04 PM 2015
I checked the RNG and the +1 at loss and -1 at win kills your bankroll. In situations like LWLWLWL or LWWLWWLWWL you are chasing the losses and you bank goes down. Dont know how it goes with flat bet.

thanks for testing

dont take offense to this but, RNG is not roulette and i never use it in my testing

i know of a few solid systems that survive real wheel but magically fail on RNG
RNG is not a roulette wheel and will never behave like one

you are asking to lose your money if you play rng

I will leave the method here.....most likely it will die out and people will move on
but i will continue to make money with it
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Interstate89 on Jun 08, 06:14 PM 2015
sorry i mean LWLWLWL and WLLWLLWLL
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: XXedos on Jun 08, 07:24 PM 2015
Hi,
a long test ...
live casino,
flat bet,
after another ten loss, and
twenty win occurred sequentially

sorry,
Zoltan
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: MrJ on Jun 08, 07:49 PM 2015
"dont take offense to this but, RNG is not roulette and i never use it in my testing

i know of a few solid systems that survive real wheel but magically fail on RNG
RNG is not a roulette wheel and will never behave like one

you are asking to lose your money if you play rng" >>> I highly agree.

Ken
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 07:54 PM 2015
Quote from: XXedos on Jun 08, 07:24 PM 2015
Hi,
a long test ...
live casino,
flat bet,
after another ten loss, and
twenty win occurred sequentially

sorry,
Zoltan

why sorry?

that test is great
1) i would have stopped when up 20 units
2) that drawdown would be less with proper money management

good test

p.s. 3,000 spins is too much for me, few hundred is all i need
your graph is lovely being that it is 24 numbers FLAT bet.....add a slight progression and by spin 300 you are up tons

a system isnt a failure because it tanks at 3000 spins
for a system to be good the player needs to be smart, money management....stop loss.....i dont know anyone playing 3000 spins......most players play 100 spins tops :)

i wont spend time trying to justify this....people can use this method to their advantage if they choose to

again thanks for testing i really do appreciate it.....but 3,000 spins...you got it all wrong
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 08, 09:04 PM 2015
Greetings RG

14 sessions (including one Real Money RNG) &
the lowest drawdown was 2 consecutive misses.

8)       8)

I calculated the bankroll: 83 units per one
unit base bet @ 1-3-9 progression and zero.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 09:06 PM 2015
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 08, 09:04 PM 2015
Greetings RG

14 sessions (including RNG) and the
lowest drawdown was 2 consecutive misses.

8)       8)

I calculated the bankroll: 83 units per one
unit base bet @ 1-3-9 progression and zero.

Very nice proof

Add a 1 virtual loss maybe?

Good job

Did a 200 spin session on american zumma. Max consecutive loss was 3. We got something here
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 08, 09:14 PM 2015
Add a 1 virtual loss maybe?-RG

Yes that would be smart :d

That 9x progression was scary.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 09:18 PM 2015
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 08, 09:14 PM 2015
Add a 1 virtual loss maybe?-RG

Yes that would be smart :d

That 9x progression was scary.

Since i had 3L max a 1 3 9 progression would have won every single time playing with a 1 virtual loss trigger. which u will always have within 10 spins

A basic marty may be OK. 1 2 4 8 reset on win. Recoup faster than flat
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 09:42 PM 2015
link:s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PH0DvEuKf_s
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 08, 09:57 PM 2015
Quote from: MrJ on Jun 08, 07:49 PM 2015
"dont take offense to this but, RNG is not roulette and i never use it in my testing

i know of a few solid systems that survive real wheel but magically fail on RNG
RNG is not a roulette wheel and will never behave like one

you are asking to lose your money if you play rng" >>> I highly agree.

Ken

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: bleep24 on Jun 09, 03:39 AM 2015
I am at a bit of a loss to understand how this can work.  Betting 6 x 4 = 24 numbers = 2/3 of layout (roughly) The expectancy is therefore to win 2 out of every 3 spins.  Odds on corners is 8/1   plus stake on winner back.   We are betting 6 x 1 = 6.     Minus 6 if loses.   If win +8 - 6 stake = 2 profit + 1 = 3.       Put simply: take 30 spins.    Win 2/3 = 20 x 3 = 60           1/3 = 10 x 6 = 60       balance 0      I did 2 tests on live (virtual) and it worked out roughly to expectancy.   Several 3 x losses and 1 x 5 loss.   Good luck to those posting having made winnings but with a possibility of a 5x loss I will not be joining them.   Possible progression of 11111  22222  33333 might work. :( :(
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: bleep24 on Jun 09, 03:47 AM 2015
Zeroes did not figure (for once) in the mentioned chains of losses so betting 0 would not have helped.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 06:37 AM 2015
Thats the whole idea for me..take a 24 number bet that performs better then betting on 2 dozens

2 out of 3 is a good thing with money management

Surprised u had a loss of 5 havent seen that yet. Or 4 for that matter
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: ignatus on Jun 09, 07:25 AM 2015
24 numbers will always lose. (trust me, i've tried it many many times in different ways)

once you get a few losses, it will never recover.

if you see a chart of your bet it goes straight down....

Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 07:38 AM 2015
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 09, 07:25 AM 2015
24 numbers will always lose. (trust me, i've tried it many many times in different ways)

once you get a few losses, it will never recover.

if you see a chart of your bet it goes straight down....

For now i will keep going. My tests have all recovered flat
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 09, 08:37 AM 2015
Ghost,

The other reptile  is  behaving just as well   Nothing to fear.


Tamino
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: ignatus on Jun 09, 08:40 AM 2015
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 07:38 AM 2015
For now i will keep going. My tests have all recovered flat

I don't understand why you don't listen to my advice? it's a beginners mistake to bet 24 numbers, psychological it may *seem* like a "good" and logical bet, but in reality it will never work, (and roulette is not "logical") betting less than 18 numbers is the only chance to win.

Here you can see a chart over your bet (live-spins from dublinbet)
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 08:44 AM 2015
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 09, 08:40 AM 2015
I don't understand why you don't listen to my advice? it's a beginners mistake to bet 24 numbers, psychological it may *seem* like a "good" and logical bet, but in reality it will never work, (and roulette is not "logical") betting less than 18 numbers is the only chance to win.

Here you can see a chart over your bet (live-spins from dublinbet)

I appreciate ur advice

However i don't bet like you, and i sure as hell dont test thousands of spins i play 20 and stop. Therefore its successful

" will never work, (and roulette is not "logical") betting less than 18 numbers is the only chance to win."

You are wrong
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 08:44 AM 2015
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 09, 08:37 AM 2015
Ghost,

The other reptile  is  behaving just as well   Nothing to fear.


Tamino

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: ignatus on Jun 09, 08:50 AM 2015
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 08:44 AM 2015
I appreciate ur advice

However i don't bet like you, and i sure as hell dont test thousands of spins i play 20 and stop. Therefore its successful

You don't appreciate my advice since you continue betting 24 numbers, im only warning you, i tell you from my own mistakes, i think i've tried 100 of different ways of betting 24 numbers, (even with progression) and they have *all failed*. im not a beginner, atleast i've played enough to know that 24 numbers will *never* work, even short term
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 09:23 AM 2015
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 09, 08:50 AM 2015
You don't appreciate my advice since you continue betting 24 numbers, im only warning you, i tell you from my own mistakes, i think i've tried 100 of different ways of betting 24 numbers, (even with progression) and they have *all failed*. im not a beginner, atleast i've played enough to know that 24 numbers will *never* work, even short term

I dont agree and i think you are wrong. As a matter of fact I know you are wrong
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 09:44 AM 2015
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 09, 08:50 AM 2015
You don't appreciate my advice since you continue betting 24 numbers, im only warning you, i tell you from my own mistakes, i think i've tried 100 of different ways of betting 24 numbers, (even with progression) and they have *all failed*. im not a beginner, atleast i've played enough to know that 24 numbers will *never* work, even short term

Many posters are seeing the same results i am. If you dont agree then leave it at that. Dont destroy my thread

Thanks for your opinion
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Interstate89 on Jun 09, 09:47 AM 2015
The strange thing is that we have 3 people saying that we had 5 or more losses in a row (i had them with livespins) and RG is thinking we are from another universe because he had a max loss of 4 in a row in his sessions. I will keep an eye in this topic but i think the day will come where RG gets a loosing streak.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 10:09 AM 2015
The max consecutive loss i have had is 3

However if i had 5 I'd still be ok

Win goal is 20 units
Slight progression after 1 virtual loss

I dont play the whole test 3000 spins pointless game
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 09, 10:14 AM 2015
Sharp cats do NOT  get caught in a losing streak........they don`t  permit it to happen. Only amateurs n are thinking of losing streaks.


Tamino
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 10:19 AM 2015
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 09, 10:14 AM 2015
Sharp cats do NOT  get caught in a losing streak........they don`t  permit it to happen. Only amateurs n are thinking of losing streaks.


Tamino

Exactly. Well said.

(Over 600 live spins flat bet on real wheel and zumma, fun balance is up. Had drawdowns which all recovered. 3 consecutive loss most ive seen. Real money play = 1 virtual loss start and string progression 111222333444. I tested flat bet on live wheel and zumma with fun money just to see what im dealing with. All good. )
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: denzie on Jun 09, 02:21 PM 2015
It's all on luck and what time you start your game...you can be lucky for weeks. ...till it stops. That's roulette.  And playing with many members only shows fast..what is yet to come later. I recall a system where the max was 6losses in 3 year. Till others start playing it. 7-8 and even a 9 loss occurred.  Sometimes it's hard to believe or accept it....but it is what it is....Good luck
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 04:16 PM 2015
People think im crazy

Maybe i am

But this thing works

I dont want to flood the forum with this method. I cant convince non believers

Thanks to those who tested
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Interstate89 on Jun 09, 05:54 PM 2015
To understand it right and to play it correct.

You wait for a virtual loss before you start to bet. You play the progression 111222333444. After a loss you go to the next step of the progression. You reset the progression after a new bank high and your session goal is 20 units.

Do i have it right or is there something wrong?
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 05:56 PM 2015
Quote from: Interstate89 on Jun 09, 05:54 PM 2015
To understand it right and to play it correct.

You wait for a virtual loss before you start to bet. You play the progression 111222333444. After a loss you go to the next step of the progression. You reset the progression after a new bank high and your session goal is 20 units.

Do i have it right or is there something wrong?

as of now i have only been playing flat bet on a live celtic casino wheel using fun money (euro wheel) and flat on american zumma

however with what i am seeing when i go to the casino this weekend i will play it with
111
222
333
444

bet in sets of 3, if even or up stay at base level, if down go up to next level, when up back to level 1

i dont suggest a progression because i dont want to see anyone fail but if i was to wait for 1 virtual loss and begin id probably do a 1-3 progression since 99% of wins come in there

the thing with this is hitting my goal rather quickly and getting out
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 09, 07:39 PM 2015
only 6 losers in 25,but you cover zero so only 5

Num     0x     1x     >1     2x     >2     3x     >3
25        36     1
20        35     2
13        34     3
23        33     4
4          32     5
2          31     6
24        30     7
21        29     8
10        28     9
34        27     10
7          26     11
36        25     12
6          24     13                                             worth a punt now
2          24     12     1     1
34        24     11     2     2
13        24     10     3     3
22        23     11     3     3
21        23     10     4     4
3          22     11     4     4
17        21     12     4     4
33        20     13     4     4
20        20     12     5     5
1          19     13     5     5
0          18     14     5     5
31        17     15     5     5                                        now we're at 25 spins trot near perfect is it wrong to think about betting
3                                                                             the numbers that are not hit in >1, know its a large number to bet,
32                                                                            so whats your thoughts Winkel,THANKS
27
11
14
8
33
25
24
4
15
25
17
9
16
7
15
3
26
35
12
36
23
11
21
30
12
34
8
3
1
3
6
19
2
17
6
17
30
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 10, 07:09 AM 2015
is the Tumble weed blowing over this topic
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 07:11 AM 2015
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 10, 07:09 AM 2015
is the Tumble weed blowing over this topic

Always will

However ill be using it regularly
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 10, 07:29 AM 2015
good onya look forward to updates
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 07:33 AM 2015
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 10, 07:29 AM 2015
good onya look forward to updates

Ill be in atlantic city this weekend. I will report back
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 10, 07:43 AM 2015
Be careful of the weather.  I hear there are storms.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 07:52 AM 2015
Its my bachelor party weekend. 3 hour drive from long island to AC :)
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: tezza12 on Jun 10, 08:02 AM 2015
Why are you only playing fun money if this is so amazing, also why are people failing when playing this, surely this tells you that you are on a lucky streak and it can fail, whats worse is you are on a lucky streak and are not actually earning any $ from it.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 08:14 AM 2015
Quote from: tezza12 on Jun 10, 08:02 AM 2015
Why are you only playing fun money if this is so amazing, also why are people failing when playing this, surely this tells you that you are on a lucky streak and it can fail, whats worse is you are on a lucky streak and are not actually earning any $ from it.

Because i am in the US. My online casino choices are limited. Celtic casino lets me use fun money. Im using it to test.

Also it does not fail. They are testing thousands of spins flat. Wrong wrong wrong

If the player is good it wins
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 10, 08:29 AM 2015
Atlantic City..I don't know how "American Wheel friendly" this system is.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 10, 09:23 AM 2015
The  system works on both wheels  .   
Tamino
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 09:27 AM 2015
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 10, 09:23 AM 2015
The  system works on both wheels  .   
Tamino

8)
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 10, 10:22 AM 2015
I have checked the Permanenzes  from the tables of 2 German casinos ( Bad Homburg and Wiesbaden)  no different than  the fun mode reults posted by RG.


It IS what it is what it is. Good.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: thelaw on Jun 10, 10:47 AM 2015
How about using the 6 point divisor method?

If you get frequent hits, then it should clear very easily without risk.
  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 10:53 AM 2015
Quote from: thelaw on Jun 10, 10:47 AM 2015
How about using the 6 point divisor method?

If you get frequent hits, then it should clear very easily without risk.
  :thumbsup:

Absolutely. This bet selection works so well i could just jump for joy
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: thelaw on Jun 10, 11:11 AM 2015
Just thought I would post this :

First test, I hit 5 losses in a row in under 60 spins. Here is the w/L (Spielbank 6.6.15 table 2):

WLLWLWWLWLWWLLWWWWWLWLLWWLWWWWWWWWLWWWWWLLLWWWWWLLLLL

53 SPINS

20 LOSSES

33 WINS

Now, let's compare it to betting 2 of the Dozens (here is chose 1 and 2) :

WLLWWWWWLLWLLWWLWWWLWWWWLWWWWWWWWWWWWLWLWWLLWWWLLWWLL

53 SPINS

16 LOSSES

37 WINS

Either might work with a positive Marti or Divisor Method coupled with a stop-loss.

Update :

Just ran the Divisor Method and it cleared pretty easily on the W/L records. If you add a stop-loss, this could potentially beat the game long-term; especially if you play all 3 dozens (3 sets of 2) as insurance.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 11:27 AM 2015
Quote from: thelaw on Jun 10, 11:11 AM 2015
Just thought I would post this :

First test, I hit 5 losses in a row in under 60 spins. Here is the w/L (Spielbank 6.6.15 table 2):

WLLWLWWLWLWWLLWWWWWLWLLWWLWWWWWWWWLWWWWWLLLWWWWWLLLLL

53 SPINS

20 LOSSES

33 WINS

Now, let's compare it to betting 2 of the Dozens (here is chose 1 and 2) :

WLLWWWWWLLWLLWWLWWWLWWWWLWWWWWWWWWWWWLWLWWLLWWWLLWWLL

53 SPINS

16 LOSSES

37 WINS

Either might work with a positive Marti or Divisor Method coupled with a stop-loss.

Update :

Just ran the Divisor Method and it cleared pretty easily on the W/L records. If you add a stop-loss, this could potentially beat the game long-term; especially if you play all 3 dozens (3 sets of 2) as insurance.

Thanks for testing

I will surely try this with the divisor

With my style of play i would stick around for 50 spins though. Id win my 100 bucks and leave. Chances of me sitting down with the 6 quad method and hitting 5L instantly is slim to none

I have to read up on the divisor
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: thelaw on Jun 10, 12:04 PM 2015
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 11:27 AM 2015
Thanks for testing

I will surely try this with the divisor

With my style of play i would stick around for 50 spins though. Id win my 100 bucks and leave. Chances of me sitting down with the 6 quad method and hitting 5L instantly is slim to none

I have to read up on the divisor

Yes. Keep in mind that it's actually a combo of 3 strategies after the bet selection.

1) Divisor Method (easy for betting 2/3 of numbers, just double each loss before adding to the current total-everything else is the same)

2) Shifting the Divisor (adding more divisors where necessary makes this approach highly flexible)

3) Stop-Loss (just in case the DM fails)


Eventually, there will be a negative run that kills it, but with stop-loss, it should survive (in theory) long-term. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 10, 03:14 PM 2015
Systems  alone    do not make  one  a winner at the table. But a good system with the proper  money management plus  the ingenuityof the bettor   should do




You gotta work on  all xylinders.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 05:26 PM 2015
I agree tamino

Thanks for the support on this. I expect the negative comments but there are those that will use this to the ultimate advantage

Winning does not have to be complicated. Simple bets
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 10, 06:38 PM 2015
Rich
These quads if you cut the mat, lay one on top of the other they match, any particular reason.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 06:46 PM 2015
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 10, 06:38 PM 2015
Rich
These quads if you cut the mat, lay one on top of the other they match, any particular reason.

a member here long ago sent me this

dont know the meaning
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: MrJ on Jun 10, 06:55 PM 2015
"Winning does not have to be complicated. Simple bets" >>> Yep, been saying it for years. (K.I.S.S.)

Ken
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 06:58 PM 2015
the quads in this thread ive been using on european wheel practice

tamino says it works well for american

i like to use these for american...just took a quick look at history board and it won all but 3 of the bets...positive progression anyone?

for american:
1-2-4-5
8-9-11-12
13-14-16-17
19-20-22-23
26-27-29-30
31-32-34-35

for euro:
2-3-5-6
7-8-10-11
13-14-16-17
20-21-23-24
25-26-28-29
31-32-34-35
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Interstate89 on Jun 11, 08:36 AM 2015
You are saying you are good with flatbet. If you have Roulette Xtreme you can download table 2 on may 7 from Casino Bremen. Try to get 20 units.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 09:18 AM 2015
Quote from: Interstate89 on Jun 11, 08:36 AM 2015
You are saying you are good with flatbet. If you have Roulette Xtreme you can download table 2 on may 7 from Casino Bremen. Try to get 20 units.

What i did say is i flat bet it for over 400 spins on autobet overnight on a real wheel and my balance was up. That is what prompted me to test further. Further tests concluded max loss for me of 3 in a row. With proper money management this is a winner

I have no interest in roulette extreme or testing for thousands of spins.

My real live play this weekend will be with a positive progression

Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Interstate89 on Jun 11, 09:43 AM 2015
The question is not about thousand of spins. The question was is it able to hit 20 units. In this session the max was 8 units and the rest was downhill action.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 09:57 AM 2015
Add a chip on a win

On a 2 losses stop and wait

U had a high of 8. Thats good. 
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 11, 12:07 PM 2015
RG
been looking at different 6 quad layouts as well as the orig, Have not gone more than 3 losers. Starting to think wait for 3v losers then hit hard like in some people might not understand this.
This could be your HG
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 12:34 PM 2015
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 11, 12:07 PM 2015
RG
been looking at different 6 quad layouts as well as the orig, Have not gone more than 3 losers. Starting to think wait for 3v losers then hit hard like in some people might not understand this.
This could be your HG

Yes sir. Absolutely. 3 virtual loss is just about unstoppable

Several ways to play
-positive progression reset to base unit on a loss. Bet every spin
-negative progression after 1 virtual loss
-wait 3 virtual losses then slam hard
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: ddarko on Jun 11, 12:39 PM 2015
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 12:34 PM 2015
Yes sir. Absolutely. 3 virtual loss is just about unstoppable

Several ways to play
-positive progression reset to base unit on a loss. Bet every spin
-negative progression after 1 virtual loss
-wait 3 virtual losses then slam hard

What are you going to bet on a normal "live" table while waiting for those 3 losses ?

O0
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 01:25 PM 2015
Quote from: ddarko on Jun 11, 12:39 PM 2015
What are you going to bet on a normal "live" table while waiting for those 3 losses ?

O0

Ill bet every spin

Positive progression on a win

If 3 losses in a row bet big

Any contribution you can make to this?
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: ddarko on Jun 11, 01:38 PM 2015
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 01:25 PM 2015
Any contribution you can make to this?

Nah, you don't need me.

O0
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 02:01 PM 2015
Quote from: ddarko on Jun 11, 01:38 PM 2015
Nah, you don't need me.

O0

Well i already knew that
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: MrJ on Jun 11, 02:05 PM 2015
@RG >> Congrats on your newest method. I always keep an eye on your threads, damn good !!

I was playing this at home (Celtic Casino) with decent results. How did you come up with such a kick a** idea?

Ken
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 11, 02:32 PM 2015
RG he's your best friend LOL.
Reason was looking at other 6 quad layouts was because it looks vunerable to column3 if its playing hot,but on looking at old spins which are rng as well not seen it go beyond 3.
Of 9 different layouts, betting column 2&3 has nice distribution round the wheel, as does shifting quad 20-24 to 19-23, but why bother when the original is doing ok.

Look forward to hearing how you do this weekend.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 02:34 PM 2015
Quote from: MrJ on Jun 11, 02:05 PM 2015
@RG >> Congrats on your newest method. I always keep an eye on your threads, damn good !!

I was playing this at home (Celtic Casino) with decent results. How did you come up with such a kick a** idea?

Ken

Thanks for the good words

I cannot take full credit for the idea. It stems from an idea tamino shared with me. I took the quads and ran with it

I set celtic casino euro wheel for auto repeat for the night with these quads and when i woke up in the morning my balance was just about doubled. I couldnt believe it. Further investigation i found max consecutive loss was about 3

Proper money management i dont see how it fails.

Atlantic city this weekend ill report back
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 11, 02:40 PM 2015
RG
Just a little tinker
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 02:46 PM 2015
Ill check that file later. Cant open on phone
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 11, 03:09 PM 2015
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 08, 04:37 PM 2015
RouleteGhost

I have  played  both reptiles according to the prescribed trigger method and one is  as good as the other.Might as well chose one or the other.



Tamino
Trigger method, is there a trigger,thought RG bet every spin
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 11, 04:31 PM 2015
Time to bot this RG :d
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 04:43 PM 2015
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 11, 04:31 PM 2015
Time to bot this RG :d

I never used bots

In the US what casino would we use?
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 11, 04:59 PM 2015
I think any US friendly online casino the bot would work.  It just follows
the instructions automatically placing bets and raises/lowers bets and profit/stop loss.

Superman, a bot builder said the price runs about $50 to write a program.

Nickmsi also builds bots.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 11, 05:03 PM 2015
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 11, 03:09 PM 2015
Trigger method, is there a trigger,thought RG bet every spin


You are very observant.  Yes we are talking about  TWO  identical reptiles.. RG has  chosen to use only  one. I  have
developed this  system to be  for  TWO with a trigger.


I am operating with both  methods Since  the system is based on color one can play it on BOTH  Euro and 0/00 wheel.

Thos system is NOT based on numbers but on color only  and  are the sole   basis for the Quads ;






For recreational purposes  only.Play at your own risk.


Tamino


I
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 11, 05:04 PM 2015
Loaded 3 old games in,1 125 spins another 60spins last one only about 35spins.
Each game won +15 units in under 20 spins. one game had 2 zeros and still made the units.
The 125 spins made +67 units,with 2runs going to 4th spin using +1/-1.
Like RG says in and out no long play. Yes all on rng uk bookies
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 11, 05:09 PM 2015
Thanks Tamino
Was thinking perhaps to do with distribution round wheel,hence been tinkering with different quads.
More to ponder tomorrow, once again cheers.

NTH
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 05:22 PM 2015
Awesome results notto
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 05:47 PM 2015
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 11, 05:04 PM 2015
Loaded 3 old games in,1 125 spins another 60spins last one only about 35spins.
Each game won +15 units in under 20 spins. one game had 2 zeros and still made the units.
The 125 spins made +67 units,with 2runs going to 4th spin using +1/-1.
Like RG says in and out no long play. Yes all on rng uk bookies

loving the results

+1 on a loss / -1 on a win?

yes the idea is win 10-20 units and leave
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: CocaVillaLaNoche on Jun 11, 06:22 PM 2015
I did a 1000 spin test on this (RNG)

balance multiplied with 1.5

Then I did another test with just 2 dozens, (covered the zero on both tests btw).
Lost more than the half of my balance.

interesting...
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 06:25 PM 2015
Quote from: CocaVillaLaNoche on Jun 11, 06:22 PM 2015
I did a 1000 spin test on this (RNG)

balance multiplied with 1.5

Then I did another test with just 2 dozens, (covered the zero on both tests btw).
Lost more than the half of my balance.

interesting...

I know. Very interesting
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 08:45 PM 2015
how am i going to play this at a full table tomorrow

gonna be tough

i need chips from the 0 to the other end
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 11, 09:05 PM 2015
I tried this at a Real Money RNG online casino.  Here are the results.
==============================
Test: Black Diamond Top Game Software Online Casino-Roulette
Crystal European Wheel-Thursday, June 11,2015 @ 7:38pm CDT USA

...10,2,26,32,36 (newest spin-value)-trigger

Bet $1 on zero, the other six $5 each, flat-bet.

1.) 15(x)-31

2.) 24(win)+14

...28,36 (trigger)

3.) 35(win)+14

...10,15 (trigger)

4.) 10(win)+14

...6,14,13,0 (minus 2 units),22,3,16,18 (trigger)

5.) 23(win)+14

...30 (trigger)

6.) 16(win)+14

...32,7,19,23,7,30 (trigger)

7.) 0(win)+5

...17,27 (trigger)

8.) 19(x)-31

9.) 14(win)+14

...12 (trigger)

10.) 3(win)+14

...12 (trigger)

11.) 11(win)+14

...20,13,9 (trigger)

12.) 24(win)+14

...4(trigger)

13.) 31(win)+14

...33(trigger)

14.) 11(win)+14

...17,34,28,32,16,35,9 (trigger)

15.) 25(win)+14
---------------------------------------------
+109
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 09:10 PM 2015
Your trigger was 1 loss? thats what it looks like

good job and good results

you know, im not a fan of RNG, i believe it will never ever mimic a real roulette wheel. and i do not consider it roulette, however if you are winning this way on it then keep on keepin on
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: marvin on Jun 12, 06:23 AM 2015
hahaha this reminds me of what ive witness in macau 2weeks ago. a 50sh guy is betting 5 quads  100hkd per quad on columns 1 & 2 and in two tables. i was really surprised that he was hitting his numbers in 2-3 spins. it was really entertaining that i was tempted to follow his bet as i was betting on 4numbers per spin.

good luck and do let us know the result on your play later/tomorrow
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 12, 06:53 AM 2015
Marvin
where were the 5 quads in column 1&2,thers a lot more black there, 2&3 colour even ??
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: marvin on Jun 12, 10:06 AM 2015
nottophammer,
if my memory serves me right, its 4-8 10-14 16-20 22-26 28-32.
and what even amazes me is he is betting on 2 tables  :xd: no kidding.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: bbb128 on Jun 12, 10:45 AM 2015
how many quad max combinations are there?
9?
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: hexfex82 on Jun 12, 12:36 PM 2015
 :embarrassed:

I guess this was just bad luck... See Picture


:-\
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 12, 12:45 PM 2015
RG would be ok with the zero, he might play +1/-1, so need to see say next 10 spins, but to be honest in checking of old rng sheets this bet holds up even FB
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 12, 01:01 PM 2015
1   6        w
2   30      l
3   6        w
4   16      w
5   14      w
6   24      w
7   30      l
8   29      w
9   33      l
10   7      w
11   16    w
12   3      w
13   3      w
14   18    l
15   2      w
16   25    w
17   6      w               17*6= 102 staked   wins 13*9= 117     +15
18   5                        said to Rg makes 15 units    so find another table,or in my case another shop. These numbers can be
19   22                      found in real roulette spins rng uk bookies
20   21
21   10
22   22
23   25
24   19
25   15
26   3
27   24
28   2
29   14
30   15
31   19
32   11
33   14
34   35
35   34
36   22
37   7
38   19
39   19
40   3
41   12
42   9
43   20
44   4
45   10
46   33
47   29
48   33
49   7
50   8
51   15
52   31
53   24
54   34
55   36
56   6
57   35
58   17
59   23
60   19
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 12, 01:10 PM 2015
It will always  be 14  uncovered pockets against the player ( In AC) Any  of those  can bite you not just the zeros.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 12, 03:23 PM 2015
Tam
the reptile good +9 by 12th spin would made +15 and stop. Carried on for Gut went well, even started another sheet from spin 21 number 34, this trot was fast,spin 12 was 0x25 1x 12 so bet the 1x's and in they went.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 12, 03:45 PM 2015
By your chart I can see  you  know how to handle both  of them  rather well.    No 3 losses in row either. Great !
BTW If the trigger happens to  be a zero repeat the last decision



T.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 12, 08:55 PM 2015
Got an idea for you guys :)

You need both the European Reptile
and the American Reptile bet selections.

Here's how it works:

Default to the European bet-selections until a miss, then start betting
the American bet-selections continuously until a miss, repeat from the top....
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 13, 05:54 AM 2015
check the numbers on the Gut sheet for sqare side touching side VOODOO.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 13, 03:59 PM 2015
Quote from: Interstate89 on Jun 11, 09:43 AM 2015
The question is not about thousand of spins. The question was is it able to hit 20 units. In this session the max was 8 units and the rest was downhill action.
Yes
31 spins paddy power  £18.60. started with 6*.20p, after 10 spins upped to 6*1.00,finished £18.60,said make 15 units easy.
Went next door Corals 9 spins yes just 9 spins,no bet for 1st 4 as well out door £9.00.

So real play on RNG. going to look at more old sheets.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Baelog on Jun 13, 05:30 PM 2015
4 again.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: thelaw on Jun 14, 12:03 PM 2015
Again, as soon as I start testing this, 4-losses-in-a-row :

Spielbank (6.6.15 table 4)

+26
-0
+25
+32
+26
-27
+16
+24
-22
-4
+11
+13
-30
-15
-33
-19

+17
+34
+31
......not saying this would not work, but unless I am just having the worst luck, then multiple losses are not that rare :)
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 14, 12:18 PM 2015
2 losses   in a row -----time  to go.  ( for the nxt session at another table)








For rereational purposes only. Play  at your own nrisk.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: Tamino on Jun 14, 07:19 PM 2015
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 14, 12:18 PM 2015
2 losses   in a row -----time  to go.  ( for the nxt session at another table)


This about covers it for this subject

.HAPPY WINNINGS !!!






For rereational purposes only. Play  at your own nrisk.
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 15, 07:29 PM 2015
the truth is i did not play this method this weekend

i was in AC with my friends and we gambled for the thrill, not to make money

played roulette and blackjack

won on blackjack playing blackjack basic strategy

ill report back when i sit and play this

most likely at my local airball machine
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: diego on Jun 15, 07:51 PM 2015
hello how are you and I tried it for 5 arrears in my casino and I can not follow the play with positive balance. I am from Argentina
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 16, 07:06 AM 2015
Quote from: XXedos on Jun 08, 07:24 PM 2015
Hi,
a long test ...
live casino,
flat bet,
after another ten loss, and
twenty win occurred sequentially

sorry,
Zoltan

This method needs to be watched as play goes on,same as Winkels GUT you have to watch. Observe whats happening, remember when you start everything is due,by this the numbers will fall 36 no hit ,35 no hit,so later the repeats start,so what snake is dominant, the above, the red snake.
If you play just black snake you win with +1/-1, and as for the red snake,look at it .
Me £1 units make +9 find another table,or in my case another machine, I dont cover zero as +9 is 3 wins
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: diego on Jun 16, 07:10 AM 2015
Hello You Might explain better what red or black snake, as I start my serious when two faults occur but sometimes q reaches the ball hit No. 6 bone 5 arrears. Always playing the original posted by rg greetings
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 16, 09:26 AM 2015
Now go look at XXedos on june 8,2015, nice set of numbers.

RED
1-2-4-5
8-9-11-12
13-14-16-17
19-20-22-23
26-27-29-30
31-32-34-35
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: diego on Jun 16, 10:19 AM 2015
Thank you for sharing. ud you expected to fail many times to bet ???
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: bluediamond2013 on May 05, 01:13 PM 2020
Is anyone still playing this method? If not, can anyone say why? Because it looks quite good. What is the pregession bets to use if you lose on 2nd, 3rd spin etc?

Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: huskerdu on May 05, 02:26 PM 2020
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 06:58 PM 20152-3-5-6
7-8-10-11
13-14-16-17
20-21-23-24
25-26-28-29
31-32-34-35

With this kind of quad selection is as if you play columns covering:
2/3 of  the first column
100% of the second column
1/3 of the third column

So I cannot see the logic behind this kind of betting,  instead of,  if you think that in RNG the numbers will always come out in the favor of the second column.

Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: bluediamond2013 on May 05, 03:26 PM 2020
Thanks for that HUSKERDU. Ive been playing this method the whole afternoon, and i am up 150 units so far so going quite well. What's your opinion on this method,?

What method are you currently playing yourself?

Is anyone else playing this still?
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: huskerdu on May 05, 04:06 PM 2020
Quote from: bluediamond2013 on May 05, 03:26 PM 2020What method are you currently playing yourself?

Is anyone else playing this still?

I have been playing in the past this method with quads bit with negative results.
Itvwas similar to your quads, I used to play:
2-3-5-6
7-8-10-11
13-14-16-17
20-21-23-24
25-26-28-29
32-33-35-36
So it was a zig-zag in order to cover at the same way the first and third column (50% each) and not to be on favor of 1st or 3rd column.
But then I realized that it was in favor of second column.
During the session there were often wins , but in case of consecutive loses it was hard to recover.
So I quit it.
Anyway the pros of betting 24 numbers is that it is more often the wins nut in case of consecutive loses it is hard to recover
Title: Re: 24 number bet.....flat bet success
Post by: bluediamond2013 on May 05, 05:20 PM 2020
Yeah that's true it is much harder to recover after a few consecutive loses. How many step progression do you think this method needs to be a good strong 1? 5,6 or more? The max I've experienced so far is 5. Everytime I've had 4-5 loses in a row i have just been calling it a end of session and having a break for a little bit.