Hey guys
I found a way to bet 6 quads (24 numbers) flat
I am up substantially flat betting
I have reviewed live spins and have not seen more than 2 losses in a row yet
a lot of win streaks
a lot of wlwlwlw
a lot of :l:l:
occasionally ll
never lll
i have had this on auto bet on celtic European wheel for over one hour and am up 34 units (flat betting) a standard 1 3 9 progression would have won by 9 each and everytime and id be up bigger
i cant explain why but it works
as of right now for a 24 number bet i classify this is a great bet selection and it may be safe for a progression, more testing needed
if you want to test please post results
the quad bets:
2-3-5-6
7-8-10-11
13-14-16-17
20-21-23-24
25-26-28-29
31-32-34-35
place one chip on each
flat bet unit your goal of say 20 units
see attached image...thats with $25 chips, $1,000 starting balance
Over 2 hours in
Still only 2 losses in a row max
This is the first time ive ever seen a 24 number bet have a max of 2 losses in a row in over 2 hours of every single spin play . Would never happen betting the dozens the way the casino wants you to
Every spin
No trigger
8)
Edit: one 3L in 120 minutes of play
Wlwlwlwlw will put u down since it is 24 numbers
Betting every spin i fight through....
It has recovered flat. The drawdown has never gone below 8 units down from original balance
24 number bet recovering flat bet...cant ask for much more
mate i just did a quick test. 3 groups of 300spins. all tanked pretty hard flatbet. I had a 5L and a 6L with a fair few 3s and 4s mixed in.
One thing that might make this better is stopping after a loss waiting for a virtual win then resuming. Doing this the biggest L string was 4. Not sure if doing that would make it viable to flatbet or you'd need a prog which could get dicey.
how'd you go at the track?
My results are much different with largest drawdon being 8 units from original balance
Thanks for testing. Im going to keep going
The track was fun i saw history made. American pharoah won triple crown
I put my money on the 2nd place horse
See image below. Almost 3 hours in. Flatbetting. Starting balance 1000, still up
Still going
Hundreds of spins flatbet up 16 units
How about a positive progression: up 1 unit after 3 consecutive wins. Less 1 on a loss.
Yes a positive progression would be good
So would strings of 5
1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3 3
After over 400 live spins flat bet i was up 8 units. My largest drawdown was also 8 units. My high was 48 units profit. It recovered flat everytime it went down
When i say drawdown i mean units below starting balance
Maybe my run was luck but it looks promising with even a very mild progression
If you test
please have a chip on 0. It is one of the reasons my drawdown was so small
Well... if it's that safe as you seem to present us... What's the maximum consecutive losses you experienced?
What about, after you experience such a string of losses, note current BR at this moment (lets cal it BR-1). Increase bet unit by 1 and keep it until this BR-1 stage is increased(and then drop 1 unit in betting), or until a new big string of losses occurs, in wich case you note the BR-2 increase and again increase 1 unit. This should help to recover a litle bit faster, withouth much risk...
Max consecutive loss as i explained was 3. One time. Thats with a chip on 0
Good idea
Is that the system passed on by the old Chinaman before he died? ?
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 08, 11:32 AM 2015
Is that the system passed on by the old Chinaman before he died? ?
Hmmmm. I dont understand. Who?
The results are holding up rather well. No chnage for the past 2 weeks either way.
Awesome tamino :thumbsup:
For me recovers flat which is astounding
If it continues this way small progression will be used
will test this later RG!!
looked good, first couple hundred german spins I checked. No more than 2 consecutive losses.
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 08, 03:30 PM 2015
looked good, first couple hundred german spins I checked. No more than 2 consecutive losses.
Similar results. Went 2 and a half hours with 2 losses max before i ever saw 3L and it was only once. As tomla suggested to me +1/-1 might be very good for this
+1/-1 with this bet selection wont be too out of hand
RouleteGhost
I have played both reptiles according to the prescribed trigger method and one is as good as the other.Might as well chose one or the other.
Tamino
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 08, 04:37 PM 2015
RouleteGhost
I have played both reptiles according to the prescribed trigger method and one is as good as the other.Might as well chose one or the other.
Tamino
That's what i was thinking. These results are awesome
No problem playing this system at a 0/00 live table.
For recreational purposes only.Play at your own risk.
'Tamino
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 08, 05:04 PM 2015
No problem playing this system at a 0/00 live table.
For recreational purposes only.Play at your own risk.
'Tamino
My results are so good on euro wheel im scared to try it on american
However i will try it tonight same as i did this one. Flat bet it auto bet 40 spins
Tamino,
I had and just tested 200 live american wheel spins
i had 3 consecutive losses in a row 4 times within those 200 real wheel spins
never went more then 3 in a row and 2 out of the 4 "three consecutive losses" was due to a number repeat
up to now i have found something i really enjoy
european yielded better results for me, i only had one 3 consecutive loss as opposed to 4 on american within 200 spins
at the moment i feel confident with a 1 virtual loss trigger and a progression
this is pretty damn good....3 consecutive loss max, you cant say that if you just choose 2 dozens to bet on..
with proper money management this is golden
I checked the RNG and the +1 at loss and -1 at win kills your bankroll. In situations like LWLWLWL or LWWLWWLWWL you are chasing the losses and you bank goes down. Dont know how it goes with flat bet.
Quote from: Interstate89 on Jun 08, 06:04 PM 2015
I checked the RNG and the +1 at loss and -1 at win kills your bankroll. In situations like LWLWLWL or LWWLWWLWWL you are chasing the losses and you bank goes down. Dont know how it goes with flat bet.
thanks for testing
dont take offense to this but, RNG is not roulette and i never use it in my testing
i know of a few solid systems that survive real wheel but magically fail on RNG
RNG is not a roulette wheel and will never behave like one
you are asking to lose your money if you play rng
I will leave the method here.....most likely it will die out and people will move on
but i will continue to make money with it
sorry i mean LWLWLWL and WLLWLLWLL
Hi,
a long test ...
live casino,
flat bet,
after another ten loss, and
twenty win occurred sequentially
sorry,
Zoltan
"dont take offense to this but, RNG is not roulette and i never use it in my testing
i know of a few solid systems that survive real wheel but magically fail on RNG
RNG is not a roulette wheel and will never behave like one
you are asking to lose your money if you play rng" >>> I highly agree.
Ken
Quote from: XXedos on Jun 08, 07:24 PM 2015
Hi,
a long test ...
live casino,
flat bet,
after another ten loss, and
twenty win occurred sequentially
sorry,
Zoltan
why sorry?
that test is great
1) i would have stopped when up 20 units
2) that drawdown would be less with proper money management
good test
p.s. 3,000 spins is too much for me, few hundred is all i need
your graph is lovely being that it is 24 numbers FLAT bet.....add a slight progression and by spin 300 you are up tons
a system isnt a failure because it tanks at 3000 spins
for a system to be good the player needs to be smart, money management....stop loss.....i dont know anyone playing 3000 spins......most players play 100 spins tops :)
i wont spend time trying to justify this....people can use this method to their advantage if they choose to
again thanks for testing i really do appreciate it.....but 3,000 spins...you got it all wrong
Greetings RG
14 sessions (including one Real Money RNG) &
the lowest drawdown was 2 consecutive misses.
8) 8)
I calculated the bankroll: 83 units per one
unit base bet @ 1-3-9 progression and zero.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 08, 09:04 PM 2015
Greetings RG
14 sessions (including RNG) and the
lowest drawdown was 2 consecutive misses.
8) 8)
I calculated the bankroll: 83 units per one
unit base bet @ 1-3-9 progression and zero.
Very nice proof
Add a 1 virtual loss maybe?
Good job
Did a 200 spin session on american zumma. Max consecutive loss was 3. We got something here
Add a 1 virtual loss maybe?-RG
Yes that would be smart :d
That 9x progression was scary.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 08, 09:14 PM 2015
Add a 1 virtual loss maybe?-RG
Yes that would be smart :d
That 9x progression was scary.
Since i had 3L max a 1 3 9 progression would have won every single time playing with a 1 virtual loss trigger. which u will always have within 10 spins
A basic marty may be OK. 1 2 4 8 reset on win. Recoup faster than flat
link:s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PH0DvEuKf_s
Quote from: MrJ on Jun 08, 07:49 PM 2015
"dont take offense to this but, RNG is not roulette and i never use it in my testing
i know of a few solid systems that survive real wheel but magically fail on RNG
RNG is not a roulette wheel and will never behave like one
you are asking to lose your money if you play rng" >>> I highly agree.
Ken
:thumbsup:
I am at a bit of a loss to understand how this can work. Betting 6 x 4 = 24 numbers = 2/3 of layout (roughly) The expectancy is therefore to win 2 out of every 3 spins. Odds on corners is 8/1 plus stake on winner back. We are betting 6 x 1 = 6. Minus 6 if loses. If win +8 - 6 stake = 2 profit + 1 = 3. Put simply: take 30 spins. Win 2/3 = 20 x 3 = 60 1/3 = 10 x 6 = 60 balance 0 I did 2 tests on live (virtual) and it worked out roughly to expectancy. Several 3 x losses and 1 x 5 loss. Good luck to those posting having made winnings but with a possibility of a 5x loss I will not be joining them. Possible progression of 11111 22222 33333 might work. :( :(
Zeroes did not figure (for once) in the mentioned chains of losses so betting 0 would not have helped.
Thats the whole idea for me..take a 24 number bet that performs better then betting on 2 dozens
2 out of 3 is a good thing with money management
Surprised u had a loss of 5 havent seen that yet. Or 4 for that matter
24 numbers will always lose. (trust me, i've tried it many many times in different ways)
once you get a few losses, it will never recover.
if you see a chart of your bet it goes straight down....
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 09, 07:25 AM 2015
24 numbers will always lose. (trust me, i've tried it many many times in different ways)
once you get a few losses, it will never recover.
if you see a chart of your bet it goes straight down....
For now i will keep going. My tests have all recovered flat
Ghost,
The other reptile is behaving just as well Nothing to fear.
Tamino
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 07:38 AM 2015
For now i will keep going. My tests have all recovered flat
I don't understand why you don't listen to my advice? it's a beginners mistake to bet 24 numbers, psychological it may *seem* like a "good" and logical bet, but in reality it will
never work, (and roulette is not "logical") betting less than 18 numbers is the only chance to win.
Here you can see a chart over your bet (live-spins from dublinbet)
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 09, 08:40 AM 2015
I don't understand why you don't listen to my advice? it's a beginners mistake to bet 24 numbers, psychological it may *seem* like a "good" and logical bet, but in reality it will never work, (and roulette is not "logical") betting less than 18 numbers is the only chance to win.
Here you can see a chart over your bet (live-spins from dublinbet)
I appreciate ur advice
However i don't bet like you, and i sure as hell dont test thousands of spins i play 20 and stop. Therefore its successful
"
will never work, (and roulette is not "logical") betting less than 18 numbers is the only chance to win."
You are wrong
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 09, 08:37 AM 2015
Ghost,
The other reptile is behaving just as well Nothing to fear.
Tamino
:thumbsup:
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 09, 08:44 AM 2015
I appreciate ur advice
However i don't bet like you, and i sure as hell dont test thousands of spins i play 20 and stop. Therefore its successful
You don't appreciate my advice since you continue betting 24 numbers, im only warning you, i tell you from my own mistakes, i think i've tried 100 of different ways of betting 24 numbers, (even with progression) and they have *all failed*. im not a beginner, atleast i've played enough to know that 24 numbers will *never* work, even short term
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 09, 08:50 AM 2015
You don't appreciate my advice since you continue betting 24 numbers, im only warning you, i tell you from my own mistakes, i think i've tried 100 of different ways of betting 24 numbers, (even with progression) and they have *all failed*. im not a beginner, atleast i've played enough to know that 24 numbers will *never* work, even short term
I dont agree and i think you are wrong. As a matter of fact I know you are wrong
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 09, 08:50 AM 2015
You don't appreciate my advice since you continue betting 24 numbers, im only warning you, i tell you from my own mistakes, i think i've tried 100 of different ways of betting 24 numbers, (even with progression) and they have *all failed*. im not a beginner, atleast i've played enough to know that 24 numbers will *never* work, even short term
Many posters are seeing the same results i am. If you dont agree then leave it at that. Dont destroy my thread
Thanks for your opinion
The strange thing is that we have 3 people saying that we had 5 or more losses in a row (i had them with livespins) and RG is thinking we are from another universe because he had a max loss of 4 in a row in his sessions. I will keep an eye in this topic but i think the day will come where RG gets a loosing streak.
The max consecutive loss i have had is 3
However if i had 5 I'd still be ok
Win goal is 20 units
Slight progression after 1 virtual loss
I dont play the whole test 3000 spins pointless game
Sharp cats do NOT get caught in a losing streak........they don`t permit it to happen. Only amateurs n are thinking of losing streaks.
Tamino
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 09, 10:14 AM 2015
Sharp cats do NOT get caught in a losing streak........they don`t permit it to happen. Only amateurs n are thinking of losing streaks.
Tamino
Exactly. Well said.
(Over 600 live spins flat bet on real wheel and zumma, fun balance is up. Had drawdowns which all recovered. 3 consecutive loss most ive seen. Real money play = 1 virtual loss start and string progression 111222333444. I tested flat bet on live wheel and zumma with fun money just to see what im dealing with. All good. )
It's all on luck and what time you start your game...you can be lucky for weeks. ...till it stops. That's roulette. And playing with many members only shows fast..what is yet to come later. I recall a system where the max was 6losses in 3 year. Till others start playing it. 7-8 and even a 9 loss occurred. Sometimes it's hard to believe or accept it....but it is what it is....Good luck
People think im crazy
Maybe i am
But this thing works
I dont want to flood the forum with this method. I cant convince non believers
Thanks to those who tested
To understand it right and to play it correct.
You wait for a virtual loss before you start to bet. You play the progression 111222333444. After a loss you go to the next step of the progression. You reset the progression after a new bank high and your session goal is 20 units.
Do i have it right or is there something wrong?
Quote from: Interstate89 on Jun 09, 05:54 PM 2015
To understand it right and to play it correct.
You wait for a virtual loss before you start to bet. You play the progression 111222333444. After a loss you go to the next step of the progression. You reset the progression after a new bank high and your session goal is 20 units.
Do i have it right or is there something wrong?
as of now i have only been playing flat bet on a live celtic casino wheel using fun money (euro wheel) and flat on american zumma
however with what i am seeing when i go to the casino this weekend i will play it with
111
222
333
444
bet in sets of 3, if even or up stay at base level, if down go up to next level, when up back to level 1
i dont suggest a progression because i dont want to see anyone fail but if i was to wait for 1 virtual loss and begin id probably do a 1-3 progression since 99% of wins come in there
the thing with this is hitting my goal rather quickly and getting out
only 6 losers in 25,but you cover zero so only 5
Num 0x 1x >1 2x >2 3x >3
25 36 1
20 35 2
13 34 3
23 33 4
4 32 5
2 31 6
24 30 7
21 29 8
10 28 9
34 27 10
7 26 11
36 25 12
6 24 13 worth a punt now
2 24 12 1 1
34 24 11 2 2
13 24 10 3 3
22 23 11 3 3
21 23 10 4 4
3 22 11 4 4
17 21 12 4 4
33 20 13 4 4
20 20 12 5 5
1 19 13 5 5
0 18 14 5 5
31 17 15 5 5 now we're at 25 spins trot near perfect is it wrong to think about betting
3 the numbers that are not hit in >1, know its a large number to bet,
32 so whats your thoughts Winkel,THANKS
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is the Tumble weed blowing over this topic
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 10, 07:09 AM 2015
is the Tumble weed blowing over this topic
Always will
However ill be using it regularly
good onya look forward to updates
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 10, 07:29 AM 2015
good onya look forward to updates
Ill be in atlantic city this weekend. I will report back
Be careful of the weather. I hear there are storms.
Its my bachelor party weekend. 3 hour drive from long island to AC :)
Why are you only playing fun money if this is so amazing, also why are people failing when playing this, surely this tells you that you are on a lucky streak and it can fail, whats worse is you are on a lucky streak and are not actually earning any $ from it.
Quote from: tezza12 on Jun 10, 08:02 AM 2015
Why are you only playing fun money if this is so amazing, also why are people failing when playing this, surely this tells you that you are on a lucky streak and it can fail, whats worse is you are on a lucky streak and are not actually earning any $ from it.
Because i am in the US. My online casino choices are limited. Celtic casino lets me use fun money. Im using it to test.
Also it does not fail. They are testing thousands of spins flat. Wrong wrong wrong
If the player is good it wins
Atlantic City..I don't know how "American Wheel friendly" this system is.
The system works on both wheels .
Tamino
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 10, 09:23 AM 2015
The system works on both wheels .
Tamino
8)
I have checked the Permanenzes from the tables of 2 German casinos ( Bad Homburg and Wiesbaden) no different than the fun mode reults posted by RG.
It IS what it is what it is. Good.
How about using the 6 point divisor method?
If you get frequent hits, then it should clear very easily without risk. :thumbsup:
Quote from: thelaw on Jun 10, 10:47 AM 2015
How about using the 6 point divisor method?
If you get frequent hits, then it should clear very easily without risk. :thumbsup:
Absolutely. This bet selection works so well i could just jump for joy
Just thought I would post this :
First test, I hit 5 losses in a row in under 60 spins. Here is the w/L (Spielbank 6.6.15 table 2):
WLLWLWWLWLWWLLWWWWWLWLLWWLWWWWWWWWLWWWWWLLLWWWWWLLLLL
53 SPINS
20 LOSSES
33 WINS
Now, let's compare it to betting 2 of the Dozens (here is chose 1 and 2) :
WLLWWWWWLLWLLWWLWWWLWWWWLWWWWWWWWWWWWLWLWWLLWWWLLWWLL
53 SPINS
16 LOSSES
37 WINS
Either might work with a positive Marti or Divisor Method coupled with a stop-loss.
Update :
Just ran the Divisor Method and it cleared pretty easily on the W/L records. If you add a stop-loss, this could potentially beat the game long-term; especially if you play all 3 dozens (3 sets of 2) as insurance.
Quote from: thelaw on Jun 10, 11:11 AM 2015
Just thought I would post this :
First test, I hit 5 losses in a row in under 60 spins. Here is the w/L (Spielbank 6.6.15 table 2):
WLLWLWWLWLWWLLWWWWWLWLLWWLWWWWWWWWLWWWWWLLLWWWWWLLLLL
53 SPINS
20 LOSSES
33 WINS
Now, let's compare it to betting 2 of the Dozens (here is chose 1 and 2) :
WLLWWWWWLLWLLWWLWWWLWWWWLWWWWWWWWWWWWLWLWWLLWWWLLWWLL
53 SPINS
16 LOSSES
37 WINS
Either might work with a positive Marti or Divisor Method coupled with a stop-loss.
Update :
Just ran the Divisor Method and it cleared pretty easily on the W/L records. If you add a stop-loss, this could potentially beat the game long-term; especially if you play all 3 dozens (3 sets of 2) as insurance.
Thanks for testing
I will surely try this with the divisor
With my style of play i would stick around for 50 spins though. Id win my 100 bucks and leave. Chances of me sitting down with the 6 quad method and hitting 5L instantly is slim to none
I have to read up on the divisor
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 11:27 AM 2015
Thanks for testing
I will surely try this with the divisor
With my style of play i would stick around for 50 spins though. Id win my 100 bucks and leave. Chances of me sitting down with the 6 quad method and hitting 5L instantly is slim to none
I have to read up on the divisor
Yes. Keep in mind that it's actually a combo of 3 strategies after the bet selection.1) Divisor Method (easy for betting 2/3 of numbers, just double each loss before adding to the current total-everything else is the same)
2) Shifting the Divisor (adding more divisors where necessary makes this approach highly flexible)
3) Stop-Loss (just in case the DM fails)Eventually, there will be a
negative run that kills it, but with stop-loss, it should survive (in theory) long-term. :thumbsup:
Systems alone do not make one a winner at the table. But a good system with the proper money management plus the ingenuityof the bettor should do
You gotta work on all xylinders.
I agree tamino
Thanks for the support on this. I expect the negative comments but there are those that will use this to the ultimate advantage
Winning does not have to be complicated. Simple bets
Rich
These quads if you cut the mat, lay one on top of the other they match, any particular reason.
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 10, 06:38 PM 2015
Rich
These quads if you cut the mat, lay one on top of the other they match, any particular reason.
a member here long ago sent me this
dont know the meaning
"Winning does not have to be complicated. Simple bets" >>> Yep, been saying it for years. (K.I.S.S.)
Ken
the quads in this thread ive been using on european wheel practice
tamino says it works well for american
i like to use these for american...just took a quick look at history board and it won all but 3 of the bets...positive progression anyone?
for american:
1-2-4-5
8-9-11-12
13-14-16-17
19-20-22-23
26-27-29-30
31-32-34-35
for euro:
2-3-5-6
7-8-10-11
13-14-16-17
20-21-23-24
25-26-28-29
31-32-34-35
You are saying you are good with flatbet. If you have Roulette Xtreme you can download table 2 on may 7 from Casino Bremen. Try to get 20 units.
Quote from: Interstate89 on Jun 11, 08:36 AM 2015
You are saying you are good with flatbet. If you have Roulette Xtreme you can download table 2 on may 7 from Casino Bremen. Try to get 20 units.
What i did say is i flat bet it for over 400 spins on autobet overnight on a real wheel and my balance was up. That is what prompted me to test further. Further tests concluded max loss for me of 3 in a row. With proper money management this is a winner
I have no interest in roulette extreme or testing for thousands of spins.
My real live play this weekend will be with a positive progression
The question is not about thousand of spins. The question was is it able to hit 20 units. In this session the max was 8 units and the rest was downhill action.
Add a chip on a win
On a 2 losses stop and wait
U had a high of 8. Thats good.
RG
been looking at different 6 quad layouts as well as the orig, Have not gone more than 3 losers. Starting to think wait for 3v losers then hit hard like in some people might not understand this.
This could be your HG
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 11, 12:07 PM 2015
RG
been looking at different 6 quad layouts as well as the orig, Have not gone more than 3 losers. Starting to think wait for 3v losers then hit hard like in some people might not understand this.
This could be your HG
Yes sir. Absolutely. 3 virtual loss is just about unstoppable
Several ways to play
-positive progression reset to base unit on a loss. Bet every spin
-negative progression after 1 virtual loss
-wait 3 virtual losses then slam hard
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 12:34 PM 2015
Yes sir. Absolutely. 3 virtual loss is just about unstoppable
Several ways to play
-positive progression reset to base unit on a loss. Bet every spin
-negative progression after 1 virtual loss
-wait 3 virtual losses then slam hard
What are you going to bet on a normal "live" table while waiting for those 3 losses ?
O0
Quote from: ddarko on Jun 11, 12:39 PM 2015
What are you going to bet on a normal "live" table while waiting for those 3 losses ?
O0
Ill bet every spin
Positive progression on a win
If 3 losses in a row bet big
Any contribution you can make to this?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 11, 01:25 PM 2015
Any contribution you can make to this?
Nah, you don't need me.
O0
Quote from: ddarko on Jun 11, 01:38 PM 2015
Nah, you don't need me.
O0
Well i already knew that
@RG >> Congrats on your newest method. I always keep an eye on your threads, damn good !!
I was playing this at home (Celtic Casino) with decent results. How did you come up with such a kick a** idea?
Ken
RG he's your best friend LOL.
Reason was looking at other 6 quad layouts was because it looks vunerable to column3 if its playing hot,but on looking at old spins which are rng as well not seen it go beyond 3.
Of 9 different layouts, betting column 2&3 has nice distribution round the wheel, as does shifting quad 20-24 to 19-23, but why bother when the original is doing ok.
Look forward to hearing how you do this weekend.
Quote from: MrJ on Jun 11, 02:05 PM 2015
@RG >> Congrats on your newest method. I always keep an eye on your threads, damn good !!
I was playing this at home (Celtic Casino) with decent results. How did you come up with such a kick a** idea?
Ken
Thanks for the good words
I cannot take full credit for the idea. It stems from an idea tamino shared with me. I took the quads and ran with it
I set celtic casino euro wheel for auto repeat for the night with these quads and when i woke up in the morning my balance was just about doubled. I couldnt believe it. Further investigation i found max consecutive loss was about 3
Proper money management i dont see how it fails.
Atlantic city this weekend ill report back
RG
Just a little tinker
Ill check that file later. Cant open on phone
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 08, 04:37 PM 2015
RouleteGhost
I have played both reptiles according to the prescribed trigger method and one is as good as the other.Might as well chose one or the other.
Tamino
Trigger method, is there a trigger,thought RG bet every spin
Time to bot this RG :d
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 11, 04:31 PM 2015
Time to bot this RG :d
I never used bots
In the US what casino would we use?
I think any US friendly online casino the bot would work. It just follows
the instructions automatically placing bets and raises/lowers bets and profit/stop loss.
Superman, a bot builder said the price runs about $50 to write a program.
Nickmsi also builds bots.
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 11, 03:09 PM 2015
Trigger method, is there a trigger,thought RG bet every spin
You are very observant. Yes we are talking about TWO identical reptiles.. RG has chosen to use only one. I have
developed this system to be for TWO with a trigger.
I am operating with both methods Since the system is based on color one can play it on BOTH Euro and 0/00 wheel.
Thos system is NOT based on numbers but on color only and are the sole basis for the Quads ;
For recreational purposes only.Play at your own risk.
Tamino
I
Loaded 3 old games in,1 125 spins another 60spins last one only about 35spins.
Each game won +15 units in under 20 spins. one game had 2 zeros and still made the units.
The 125 spins made +67 units,with 2runs going to 4th spin using +1/-1.
Like RG says in and out no long play. Yes all on rng uk bookies
Thanks Tamino
Was thinking perhaps to do with distribution round wheel,hence been tinkering with different quads.
More to ponder tomorrow, once again cheers.
NTH
Awesome results notto
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 11, 05:04 PM 2015
Loaded 3 old games in,1 125 spins another 60spins last one only about 35spins.
Each game won +15 units in under 20 spins. one game had 2 zeros and still made the units.
The 125 spins made +67 units,with 2runs going to 4th spin using +1/-1.
Like RG says in and out no long play. Yes all on rng uk bookies
loving the results
+1 on a loss / -1 on a win?
yes the idea is win 10-20 units and leave
I did a 1000 spin test on this (RNG)
balance multiplied with 1.5
Then I did another test with just 2 dozens, (covered the zero on both tests btw).
Lost more than the half of my balance.
interesting...
Quote from: CocaVillaLaNoche on Jun 11, 06:22 PM 2015
I did a 1000 spin test on this (RNG)
balance multiplied with 1.5
Then I did another test with just 2 dozens, (covered the zero on both tests btw).
Lost more than the half of my balance.
interesting...
I know. Very interesting
how am i going to play this at a full table tomorrow
gonna be tough
i need chips from the 0 to the other end
I tried this at a Real Money RNG online casino. Here are the results.
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Test: Black Diamond Top Game Software Online Casino-Roulette
Crystal European Wheel-Thursday, June 11,2015 @ 7:38pm CDT USA
...10,2,26,32,36 (newest spin-value)-trigger
Bet $1 on zero, the other six $5 each, flat-bet.
1.) 15(x)-31
2.) 24(win)+14
...28,36 (trigger)
3.) 35(win)+14
...10,15 (trigger)
4.) 10(win)+14
...6,14,13,0 (minus 2 units),22,3,16,18 (trigger)
5.) 23(win)+14
...30 (trigger)
6.) 16(win)+14
...32,7,19,23,7,30 (trigger)
7.) 0(win)+5
...17,27 (trigger)
8.) 19(x)-31
9.) 14(win)+14
...12 (trigger)
10.) 3(win)+14
...12 (trigger)
11.) 11(win)+14
...20,13,9 (trigger)
12.) 24(win)+14
...4(trigger)
13.) 31(win)+14
...33(trigger)
14.) 11(win)+14
...17,34,28,32,16,35,9 (trigger)
15.) 25(win)+14
---------------------------------------------
+109
Your trigger was 1 loss? thats what it looks like
good job and good results
you know, im not a fan of RNG, i believe it will never ever mimic a real roulette wheel. and i do not consider it roulette, however if you are winning this way on it then keep on keepin on
hahaha this reminds me of what ive witness in macau 2weeks ago. a 50sh guy is betting 5 quads 100hkd per quad on columns 1 & 2 and in two tables. i was really surprised that he was hitting his numbers in 2-3 spins. it was really entertaining that i was tempted to follow his bet as i was betting on 4numbers per spin.
good luck and do let us know the result on your play later/tomorrow
Marvin
where were the 5 quads in column 1&2,thers a lot more black there, 2&3 colour even ??
nottophammer,
if my memory serves me right, its 4-8 10-14 16-20 22-26 28-32.
and what even amazes me is he is betting on 2 tables :xd: no kidding.
how many quad max combinations are there?
9?
:embarrassed:
I guess this was just bad luck... See Picture
:-\
RG would be ok with the zero, he might play +1/-1, so need to see say next 10 spins, but to be honest in checking of old rng sheets this bet holds up even FB
1 6 w
2 30 l
3 6 w
4 16 w
5 14 w
6 24 w
7 30 l
8 29 w
9 33 l
10 7 w
11 16 w
12 3 w
13 3 w
14 18 l
15 2 w
16 25 w
17 6 w 17*6= 102 staked wins 13*9= 117 +15
18 5 said to Rg makes 15 units so find another table,or in my case another shop. These numbers can be
19 22 found in real roulette spins rng uk bookies
20 21
21 10
22 22
23 25
24 19
25 15
26 3
27 24
28 2
29 14
30 15
31 19
32 11
33 14
34 35
35 34
36 22
37 7
38 19
39 19
40 3
41 12
42 9
43 20
44 4
45 10
46 33
47 29
48 33
49 7
50 8
51 15
52 31
53 24
54 34
55 36
56 6
57 35
58 17
59 23
60 19
It will always be 14 uncovered pockets against the player ( In AC) Any of those can bite you not just the zeros.
Tam
the reptile good +9 by 12th spin would made +15 and stop. Carried on for Gut went well, even started another sheet from spin 21 number 34, this trot was fast,spin 12 was 0x25 1x 12 so bet the 1x's and in they went.
By your chart I can see you know how to handle both of them rather well. No 3 losses in row either. Great !
BTW If the trigger happens to be a zero repeat the last decision
T.
Got an idea for you guys :)
You need both the European Reptile
and the American Reptile bet selections.
Here's how it works:
Default to the European bet-selections until a miss, then start betting
the American bet-selections continuously until a miss, repeat from the top....
check the numbers on the Gut sheet for sqare side touching side VOODOO.
Quote from: Interstate89 on Jun 11, 09:43 AM 2015
The question is not about thousand of spins. The question was is it able to hit 20 units. In this session the max was 8 units and the rest was downhill action.
Yes
31 spins paddy power £18.60. started with 6*.20p, after 10 spins upped to 6*1.00,finished £18.60,said make 15 units easy.
Went next door Corals 9 spins yes just 9 spins,no bet for 1st 4 as well out door £9.00.
So real play on RNG. going to look at more old sheets.
4 again.
Again, as soon as I start testing this, 4-losses-in-a-row :
Spielbank (6.6.15 table 4)
+26
-0
+25
+32
+26
-27
+16
+24
-22
-4
+11
+13
-30
-15
-33
-19
+17
+34
+31
......not saying this would not work, but unless I am just having the worst luck, then multiple losses are not that rare :)
2 losses in a row -----time to go. ( for the nxt session at another table)
For rereational purposes only. Play at your own nrisk.
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 14, 12:18 PM 2015
2 losses in a row -----time to go. ( for the nxt session at another table)
This about covers it for this subject
.HAPPY WINNINGS !!!
For rereational purposes only. Play at your own nrisk.
the truth is i did not play this method this weekend
i was in AC with my friends and we gambled for the thrill, not to make money
played roulette and blackjack
won on blackjack playing blackjack basic strategy
ill report back when i sit and play this
most likely at my local airball machine
hello how are you and I tried it for 5 arrears in my casino and I can not follow the play with positive balance. I am from Argentina
Quote from: XXedos on Jun 08, 07:24 PM 2015
Hi,
a long test ...
live casino,
flat bet,
after another ten loss, and
twenty win occurred sequentially
sorry,
Zoltan
This method needs to be watched as play goes on,same as Winkels GUT you have to watch. Observe whats happening, remember when you start everything is due,by this the numbers will fall 36 no hit ,35 no hit,so later the repeats start,so what snake is dominant, the above, the red snake.
If you play just black snake you win with +1/-1, and as for the red snake,look at it .
Me £1 units make +9 find another table,or in my case another machine, I dont cover zero as +9 is 3 wins
Hello You Might explain better what red or black snake, as I start my serious when two faults occur but sometimes q reaches the ball hit No. 6 bone 5 arrears. Always playing the original posted by rg greetings
Now go look at XXedos on june 8,2015, nice set of numbers.
RED
1-2-4-5
8-9-11-12
13-14-16-17
19-20-22-23
26-27-29-30
31-32-34-35
Thank you for sharing. ud you expected to fail many times to bet ???
Is anyone still playing this method? If not, can anyone say why? Because it looks quite good. What is the pregession bets to use if you lose on 2nd, 3rd spin etc?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 06:58 PM 20152-3-5-6
7-8-10-11
13-14-16-17
20-21-23-24
25-26-28-29
31-32-34-35
With this kind of quad selection is as if you play columns covering:
2/3 of the first column
100% of the second column
1/3 of the third column
So I cannot see the logic behind this kind of betting, instead of, if you think that in RNG the numbers will always come out in the favor of the second column.
Thanks for that HUSKERDU. Ive been playing this method the whole afternoon, and i am up 150 units so far so going quite well. What's your opinion on this method,?
What method are you currently playing yourself?
Is anyone else playing this still?
Quote from: bluediamond2013 on May 05, 03:26 PM 2020What method are you currently playing yourself?
Is anyone else playing this still?
I have been playing in the past this method with quads bit with negative results.
Itvwas similar to your quads, I used to play:
2-3-5-6
7-8-10-11
13-14-16-17
20-21-23-24
25-26-28-29
32-33-35-36
So it was a zig-zag in order to cover at the same way the first and third column (50% each) and not to be on favor of 1st or 3rd column.
But then I realized that it was in favor of second column.
During the session there were often wins , but in case of consecutive loses it was hard to recover.
So I quit it.
Anyway the pros of betting 24 numbers is that it is more often the wins nut in case of consecutive loses it is hard to recover
Yeah that's true it is much harder to recover after a few consecutive loses. How many step progression do you think this method needs to be a good strong 1? 5,6 or more? The max I've experienced so far is 5. Everytime I've had 4-5 loses in a row i have just been calling it a end of session and having a break for a little bit.