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Title: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: Jordan on Oct 06, 12:27 PM 2010
What happened to the sofware that Vic was going to give us?
Is it winning so much that he keep it to himself? LoL
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: Twisteruk on Oct 06, 12:31 PM 2010
I know for a fact he is working on it as we speak  :thumbsup:


I'm sure it is worth waiting for   ;D
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: VLS on Oct 06, 01:19 PM 2010
TwisterUK (Paul), Fripper and Thomas are the current testers for the internal version :-[

I've been silent about it since the development pace has been slowed down, mostly to be certain when I add something it actually is what it should.

I think Paul can give you his impressions. He's got the bankroll saved for release.

God willingly, only weeks to it. (The whole enchilada, like warmly mentioned before. I won't be releasing any incomplete version to the public, when it gets released, that's the actual deal. For people to test for real right away).
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: Twisteruk on Oct 06, 02:09 PM 2010
Quote from: VLS on Oct 06, 01:19 PM 2010
TwisterUK (Paul), Fripper and Thomas are the current testers for the internal version :-[


I think Paul can give you his impressions. He's got the bankroll saved for release.



Ok !
I've kept quiet out of respect for Victor, as its his baby. But as I've been given a Green Light to give my Impressions. I shall !

OH
MY
PHUCKING
God
!!!



This Baby is amazing. Nothing short of OUTSTANDING !

I've had sessions where I've typed in 4 numbers, as given too the Tool, and its given me ONE number to bet and it HIT !

The best session was +194 Units in around 12 Spins

The most exciting session was ALMOST hitting two single bets one after the other........ ! The Tool gave me ONE number to bet and it HIT.....then it gave me ONE number to bet again....it missed by ONE pocket !


On the downside, yep it happens. I had a few sessions where it missed. Mostly by one pocket or so and ended up losing. don't forget its not the finished product. And I'm sure even when it is we will have the odd down experience of losing


Overall considering its not the finished product, its PHUCKING Impressive !


To be honest if Victor was selling now I would buy LoL


Buuuuuut I'm gonna wait until its 100%.



I'm not playing at all anymore. Just saving my BankRoll !




I will happily test the Tool and continue to report back to Victor as and when he needs me due to being house bound for the next 8 weeks due to a foot injury !



Hang in there guys. It will SO be worth it. It will change the way you Think about Roulette. Forever.  :thumbsup:






*ALL my Testing was done using Funn Free Chips, BUT on a Live Wheel Using around 5 different Casino's. The results were the same whatever casino I used.


Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: Fripper on Oct 06, 02:16 PM 2010
Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 06, 02:09 PM 2010

*ALL my Testing was done using Funn Free Chips, BUT on a Live Wheel Using around 5 different Casino's. The results were the same whatever casino I used.



I agree, it gives very nice results the most of the time. It's incredible really.

It is a very nice tool even though it isn't completely done yet, have faith.

I have also found that the results is the same at all casinos I tested in. Tested in both RNGs and live wheels.

Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: Illuzionn on Oct 06, 02:54 PM 2010
Stunning  :thumbsup:

I remember ThomasGrant post where he said the tool was quite good but had some bad choices. It seems to have been improved a lot, or you were in a good day  ;)

I'm looking forward to test it !
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: esoito on Oct 06, 07:13 PM 2010
Good stuff!

Sorry about your bad news, Twisteruk.  (I'll refrain from silly cracks about "putting your foot in it" but the temptation is there.  :) )

No -- seriously -- hope the immobility gives you a good rest (think of all the testing you can do) and that the foot ends up as good as new.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: furple on Oct 06, 07:56 PM 2010
Nice one Guys. It's good to hear that all Victors hard working is paying off. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: ThomasGrant on Oct 06, 09:00 PM 2010
Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 06, 02:09 PM 2010
Ok !
I've kept quiet out of respect for Victor, as its his baby. But as I've been given a Green Light to give my Impressions. I shall !

OH
MY
PHUCKING
God
!!!


This Baby is amazing. Nothing short of OUTSTANDING !

I've had sessions where I've typed in 4 numbers, as given too the Tool, and its given me ONE number to bet and it HIT !

The best session was +194 Units in around 12 Spins

The most exciting session was ALMOST hitting two single bets one after the other........ ! The Tool gave me ONE number to bet and it HIT.....then it gave me ONE number to bet again....it missed by ONE pocket !

On the downside, yep it happens. I had a few sessions where it missed. Mostly by one pocket or so and ended up losing. don't forget its not the finished product. And I'm sure even when it is we will have the odd down experience of losing

Overall considering its not the finished product, its PHUCKING Impressive !

To be honest if Victor was selling now I would buy LoL

Buuuuuut I'm gonna wait until its 100%.

I'm not playing at all anymore. Just saving my BankRoll !

I will happily test the Tool and continue to report back to Victor as and when he needs me due to being house bound for the next 8 weeks due to a foot injury !

Hang in there guys. It will SO be worth it. It will change the way you Think about Roulette. Forever.  :thumbsup:


*ALL my Testing was done using Funn Free Chips, BUT on a Live Wheel Using around 5 different Casino's. The results were the same whatever casino I used.


Yeah, I concur.
I have only tested it briefly.
But it is very impressive.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: VLS on Oct 06, 09:09 PM 2010
Quote from: Illuzionn on Oct 06, 02:54 PM 2010
It seems to have been improved a lot, or you were in a good day  ;)

Well Paul has been testing for days; gladly the "good day" is the consistent event for every player who has used it so far :)

Fellow user Iggiv had the internal link too also reported a good experience with it.

The good feedback from all testers does help in making me confident of offering it to the general public when ready.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: warrior on Oct 06, 09:30 PM 2010
Victor can you use this tool at BM ?
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: VLS on Oct 06, 10:37 PM 2010
Quote from: warrior on Oct 06, 09:30 PM 2010
Victor can you use this tool at BM ?

If you are allowed to use smartphone with internet access. More likely only with airball/automated wheels where the crew doesn't care as much.

Live wheel may require the type of gadgets used by roulette computer users (i.e. emitter/receiver concealed hearing aids, etc.).
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: albalaha on Oct 07, 12:49 AM 2010
Dear Victor,
         how many numbers do you suggest betting, usually? In live dealer casinos, usually we get less than 1 minute to bet all numbers, will it be sufficient time to input and get output and then bet? Paul, impressed us too much and no one can resist this tool and everybody would like to use it, atleast once. Will you sell the tool as well?
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: Twisteruk on Oct 07, 03:05 AM 2010
Quote from: albalaha on Oct 07, 12:49 AM 2010
Dear Victor,
         how many numbers do you suggest betting, usually? In live dealer casinos, usually we get less than 1 minute to bet all numbers, will it be sufficient time to input and get output and then bet? Paul, impressed us too much and no one can resist this tool and everybody would like to use it, atleast once. Will you sell the tool as well?


albalaha

It varies.
Sometimes the Tool just gives 1 2 or 3 numbers at the start
Then if you dont hit it increases the number to maybe 8 or 9
The highest I had, I think, was around 14 numbers

I played on a table that has 30 seconds btwn spins (slingshot roulette) and was very able to input the last number to the tool then put the bets down.

Also tested on a table with 45 seconds btwn spins, and well to be honest I was thinking come on hurry up and spin !!!

Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: VLS on Oct 07, 03:28 AM 2010
Quote from: albalaha on Oct 07, 12:49 AM 2010

Paul [...] Will you sell the tool as well?


ahaha dear Albalaha, you really need to check the sale mentality out for some time :)

Quote from: albalaha on Oct 07, 12:49 AM 2010

Dear Victor,
        how many numbers do you suggest betting, usually?


The lesser, the better.

Regarding the tool itself, obviously as it is adaptive and enables/disables events directly accounting to the current numerical stream and current spin window it makes it impossible to define a number for it in advance.

What the tool gives is the minimum amount of numbers eligible given the current situation.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: ricos777 on Oct 07, 10:28 PM 2010
I am interested in your roulette tool. When do you figure it will be available?






Thanks,Ricos
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: albalaha on Oct 07, 10:37 PM 2010
Everyone is waiting for that fortunate day.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: VLS on Oct 07, 10:56 PM 2010
May be closer than you think...

Praying to god here nothing wrong happens. So far so good. Testers had good experiences and things are moving. Release may even  be as close as days now, not weeks.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: ricos777 on Oct 08, 01:51 AM 2010
WHy would you need it albalaha?You have the coveted KING system.





Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: Twisteruk on Oct 08, 02:33 AM 2010
Its *my* opinion that you most likely will never use another System ever again !
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: ricos777 on Oct 08, 02:56 AM 2010
WOW not even Twisters Holy Grail?
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: Twisteruk on Oct 08, 03:04 AM 2010
Not Even !  :D
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: albalaha on Oct 08, 03:45 AM 2010
We all are gamblers and want to multiply our money. If Victor's tool works so well and delivers guaranteed results, not just me but anyone in the world would like to use it. My King system is based upon some sound principles and does not promise any magical winnings, neither it rules out any loss forever. Everybody likes to win more and easily. Let's see whether it comes as a volcano or a fizz of soft drink.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: ThomasGrant on Oct 08, 07:19 AM 2010
albalaha
I wish you would stop shouting...
We are not blind.
Shouting refers to the use of Capitals or Large fonts.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: VLS on Oct 08, 07:41 AM 2010
Quote from: albalaha on Oct 08, 03:45 AM 2010
Let's see whether it comes as a volcano or a fizz of soft drink.

I want it to *be* a successful volcano for the users BUT to generate as little reactions in the casino community as a soft drink.

(Why? because I want to stay long and prosper. Good thing is we would never officially beat the game so we can stay sure that any win is deemed "group luck" for people using it (if they can coin the term)  :))
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: furple on Oct 08, 08:02 AM 2010
Quote from: VLS on Oct 08, 07:41 AM 2010
I want it to *be* a successful volcano for the users BUT to generate as little reactions in the casino community as a soft drink.

(Why? because I want to stay long and prosper. Good thing is we would never officially beat the game so we can stay sure that any win is deemed "group luck" for people using it (if they can coin the term)  :))


Victor.You are a kind spirited person with a good sense of humor. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: VLS on Oct 08, 08:13 AM 2010
Ahaha Furple, what good could make us to p1ss off the casino industry?

We sure wouldn't like a multi-billion dollar adversary (literally) against us, it most probably be a little more "resourceful" than us as an enemy.

(That would be like wishing to p1ss off the cartels...)

Good and reassuring thing is their advisors would ensure then any win is "random group luck" and certify they aren't wins, as it always has been for everyone, as I hope history would repeat itself with us since the game still is one of independent trials and things continue fine and dandy :thumbsup: them simply dealing with just another software tool on the internet.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: furple on Oct 08, 08:29 AM 2010
Quote from: VLS on Oct 08, 08:13 AM 2010
Ahaha Furple, what good could make us to p1ss off the casino industry?

We sure wouldn't like a multi-billion dollar adversary (literally) against us, it most probably be a little more "resourceful" than us as an enemy.

(That would be like wishing to p1ss off the cartels...)

Good and reassuring thing is their advisors would ensure then any win is "random group luck" and certify they aren't wins, as it always has been for everyone, as I hope history would repeat itself with us since the game still is one of independent trials and things continue fine and dandy :thumbsup: them simply dealing with just another software tool on the internet.

And anyway..it's mathematically impossible to beat roulette right? But there are more ways to skin a cat. As I'm confident that you're methods of play incorporated into the roulette  tool will show us. :)
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: VLS on Oct 08, 08:31 AM 2010
Quote from: furple on Oct 08, 08:29 AM 2010
And anyway..it's mathematically impossible to beat roulette right? But there are more ways to skin a cat. As I'm confident that you're methods of play incorporated into the roulette  tool will show us. :)

Well, it has been shown to some already and they are pleased. Recently I took the tool "to the pits" to add some more and bring it closer to release, and Paul/TwisterUK commented me how now he refuses to play anything else!
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: Twisteruk on Oct 08, 08:41 AM 2010
Quote from: VLS on Oct 08, 08:31 AM 2010
Well, it has been shown to some already and they are pleased. Recently I took the tool "to the pits" to add some more and bring it closer to release, and Paul/TwisterUK commented me how now he refuses to play anything else!


Is very true !

Since the Tool went offline for additional coding I've not even been to a Casino

I realise that its pointless

And I get to save a bigger BR for the Tool.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: furple on Oct 08, 08:47 AM 2010
Quote from: VLS on Oct 08, 08:31 AM 2010
Well, it has been shown to some already and they are pleased. Recently I took the tool "to the pits" to add some more and bring it closer to release, and Paul/TwisterUK commented me how now he refuses to play anything else!

I remember when you released the alpha version. I was already very impressed with the potential it was showing then. So that's why now I have no doubt that your finished release will be a huge success. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: furple on Oct 08, 08:56 AM 2010
Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 08, 08:41 AM 2010

Is very true !

Since the Tool went offline for additional coding I've not even been to a Casino

I realise that its pointless

And I get to save a bigger BR for the Tool.

In my opinion 99% of the systems out there do not approach roulette from the right angle.
Victor on the other hand has methods with the right ingredients. That comes with years of experience I suppose and also the ability to be able to think outside the square.
Title: Re: What happened to the Roulette Tips cc?
Post by: Twisteruk on Oct 08, 09:05 AM 2010
Quote from: furple on Oct 08, 08:56 AM 2010
In my opinion 99% of the systems out there do not approach roulette from the right angle.
Victor on the other hand has methods with the right ingredients. That comes with years of experience I suppose and also the ability to be able to think outside the square.

Yes I agree 100% !

When you experience the Power and Potential of the Tool, you know anything else is pointless imo  :)