Gentlemen,
For sale,
A HG system, that compromise 4 section.
1] Bet selection that always hit within MATH EXPECTATION,
This bet selection will hit the math, that no one can dispute!
If u bet EC, it will produce around 48% hit,
meaning that in every 100 attempt,
if flatbet, will produce around -5units losses.
That indisputable, by the math boys.
We cant predict future,
thus we go by the probability theory.
If bet Dozen, single, flatbet,
will always produce -10units/100spins , losses.
thus after 300 spins, u will lose -30units.
That indisputable by anyone.
THE BET SELECTION, WILL 100%, HIT WITHIN MATH EXPECTATION!
2]Horrible Variance Avoidance.
The strategy will avoid horrible variance,
since the bet selection, already produce 'within expectation',
the remaining will even win, if u bet FLATBET!
Win early, if the winning hit clustered, at the first half...
3]Progression.
Mild progression, that will NOT turn into nightmare horrible huge staking!
it will start by 1unit, and after a few losses, will go to x unit, and then, y unit ...
Since the bet selection always within math expectation, and the horrible variance method, filter out the losses.
U will win, even before the winning hit, over the math expectation.
4] Progression losses avoidance.
This strategy will stop bet when, the losses clustered, and grow to risky.
Success rate
win/loss ratio=9:1
losses will be 'cut loss', losses.
which will offset by another 2 or 3 winning session.
capital needed=less than 500units.
stop bet after a few unit won,
or forced progress, to take advantage of "hit within math expectation"
to win huge.
patience and rock solid understanding of 'theory of probability' a must.
Will sell to highest bidder.
No starting price.
Just bidding, and sold to highest bidder.
Why sell, and not win and profit myself?!
as I said, will only go to highest bidder, which ,
of course, my PREROGATIVE!!!
do u that stupid to think , I sell for peanut?
[ as the say, U pay peanut, u get monkey.]
Thanks.
P.A
Give me a demonstration of the application before I give you a bid...
Will the monkey need daily bananas?
(always wanted a monkey)
Edit:
...and this for an Online monkey, or Real B&M monkey game?
A HG system, that compromise 4 section.
1] Bet selection that always hit within MATH EXPECTATION,
This bet selection will hit the math, that no one can dispute!
If u bet EC, it will produce around 48% hit,
meaning that in every 100 attempt,
if flatbet, will produce around -5units losses.
That indisputable, by the math boys.
We cant predict future,
thus we go by the probability theory.
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Learned gentlemen,
As u all knows,
In 111 spins of roulette, [37x3round]
Math wise, zero will hit 3times,
Thus, if we bet EC, black/red, then in 111spins,
we will expect to lose=-3units,
111-3green=108/2=54 red, or black.
and if we bet black, will win 54time, and lose=57time[54red+3green=57losses]
so, the math=57-54=-3losses for every 111spins.
and , if u have a bet-selection, that always hit, and lose within the house-edge, that lose around 4 to 5 units losses,
then u already have a very good bet selection.
the problem with failed bet selection, is,
they will hit within expectation in long run,
but in short run, say 100 to 200 spins,
they tend to swing widely, positive to negative.
I mean , if u bet flat,
now they will produced huge, profit,
then at the other time, they produce HUGE losses.
and with the huge losses, u lose your shirt,
and underwear, too, to the casino.
So, a HG bet selection, is a selection, that is very stable,
and keep hit within the House EDGE,
U cant dismiss the EDGE,
or try to win over the edge,
but at least have a selection,
that always only LOSE around the EDGE!
This mean, I say again, if u have a selection,
that always lose only a few units in 100spins,
then that a selection that within MATH expectation,
and indisputable by the maths boys.
Many bet selection, are within math, but the misunderstanding dude, try to test for millions spins and they produce...losses?
111spins=-3losses
1110spins=-30
11110=-300
111110=-3000losses
1111111=-30000losses?
billions?
trillions???
losses...
what losses?
that the losses caused by EDGE,
and why stupidly keep harping the indisputable FACTS???
it is like keep arguing that turboprop propeller, cant send man to space, instead of research the rocket theory...
U NEED A SELECTION THAT KEEP LOSING NEAR THE MATH'S EXPECTATION!
and the problem is u keep on shooting the wrong stars, and keep harping on the edge, instead of embrace the edge as UNAVOIDABLE liability!
if u have a bet selection that keeping up with the EDGE, then, ARM twisting the selection, with variance avoiding progression, and staking will always produce profit...
So the million dollar question,
have a bet selection, that stable, and keep hit within math expectation,
That the very first rule for making a GRAIL.
Thanks.
Learned Gentlemen,
PROGRESSION.
Is only as good as the selection,
THAT hit within the math,
OF THE PROGRESSION!
Say, if labby need 33% PLUS one win,
then if the selection keep produce less than 33%,
the progression will BALLOONED to horrible staking,
and u soon lose your shirt, underwear to the casino
But the casino are not stupid,
thats why they have ZERO or Double zero,..and limit.
so the selection, will not BREAKEVEN!
Thus with so many-many progression,
invented, almost all will LOSE, when ,
the "UNEXPECTED[?]"
horrible variance HIT!
and soon u lose your underwear!
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So u want to make a HG,
then u must first understand and know how to address this issue.
Dont keep harping on the math edge again.
and please search for a selection, that always stable and hit within math.
Embrace the EDGE,
and please understand before u make any conclusion.
Thanks.
My dear P.A.
Please post up examples of this bet (without revealing all your hand), so that the good ladies and gents can get a handle of what you are offering here.
To use your analogy......this is like bidding for a boat that is sitting on the bottom of the Ocean floor.
We know its there, and it can be raised to the surface, but we have no idea of its 'design', 'shape' or 'handling' abilities. ::)
Learned Gentlemen,
HORRIBLE VARIANCE AVOIDANCE.
the avoidance strategy, is,
in the bet selection.
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the avoidance strategy, is,
in the staking...itself
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and,
the avoidance strategy, is,
in the progression itself...
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Yes, there are three avoidance...
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A few members of this respected forum,
already knew, what I trying to say, long ago.
The just keep them close to their chests,
lest the casino will change rules, or close shop!
================================
And those who do not understand ,
instead of research, will make funny comments here.
But that their right...of expression.
I respect them.
Hi PA.
Interesting...
In your recent posts you intimated about why systems fail and the inevitable losing runs.
Is this something you have recently discovered or have you been testing it for some time, then?
Regards,
A.
Learned Gentlemen,
What is FORCED PROGRESSION?
[ahh, sorry for my English, as I a Chinese, and no good in English.Thanks]
This 'Forced" already stale since the first casino open shop!
But nevertheless, let me explain, as I enjoy talking.
Say , in a hypothesis, there will be at least FOUR hit in next TEN spins,
How u going to make the FULLEST of this ?
By betting any methods?...and I gave u 100set of [4hit in 10spins], in various permutation, to bet
=============================
I think I will choose MARTHY, yes the DANGEROUS marthy...and stop at the FOURTH win.
1lose=bet1=
2=bet2=
3=bet4=
4win=bet8=
5=bet16=
6win=bet32=
7=bet64=
8win=bet128=
9=bet256=
10win=bet512=
===================
1win=bet1=
2win=bet2=
3win=bet4=
4win=bet8=
5stop bet .
6
7
8
9
10
1 lose=bet1=
2 =bet2=
3 =bet4=
4 =bet8=
5 =bet16= .
6 =bet32
7 win=bet64
8 win=bet128
9 win=bet256
10 win =bet512
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That example of forced progression, that already stale since first casino open, but just jesting...BUT of course if u know how to bet any forced progression, knowingly that your selection, will hit within MATH, then that another story.
Learned Gentlemen,
EDGE.
House EDGE.
"U cant win over the EDGE!!!"
Duh! ,
Everytime I read that statement, I feel like going bonker.
OK!
1green, in 37spins.
2green in 74spins,
3green in 111spins
and 2.7%
Ok, stop , enough, period.
The end is we need a selection, that always, after a hundred spins, will produce WIN, or rather LOSSES, around 2.7%.
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WE NEED A BET SELECTION THAT ALWAYS LOSE AROUND 2.7%..PERIOD.
LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE AROUND 2.7%.
we need,
A BET SELECTION THAT ALWAYS LOSE AROUND 2.7%..PERIOD.
not win, but
LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE AROUND 2.7%.
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and forever dont make any statement about this nauseating EDGE again!
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Then we need a progression, that will win, if the breakeven, more than the or OVERCOME, the dreaded, -2.7%..
it just that simple!
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say , in 111spins, your selection, produce, around 54wins,
then any simple progression, will go over the 3, or 4, or 5 losses,
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or even flatbet will win when the winning HITs come EARLY..period.
And with a good VARIANCE avoidance, strategy,
EVEN a flatbet will do, in every season...
who need progression?!
Do some hard thinking,
and thanks for reading....
Hi PA,
In one of your earlier post you wrote:
Quote
"I do not want to sell anything, or earn any single cent from anyone here.
I just want to share what I THINK, u may dislike my posting, then dont read...
If u like my post, I am happy to share & learn from u."
Now you come on attempting to sell a "grail" to highest bidder...!?
If this is what you wish then I have an idea for you - why not create a page and sell it on EBAY to highest bidder? - you probably get more action and more profit from there.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Aug 31, 06:07 AM 2015
Hi PA,
In one of your earlier post you wrote:
Now you come on attempting to sell a "grail" to highest bidder...!?
If this is what you wish then I have an idea for you - why not create a page and sell it on EBAY to highest bidder? - you probably get more action and more profit from there.
A.
Yees!
In the past I didnt try to make a single cent from anyone, but the last straw hit, when people accuse me of 'accomplice' when i always try to share and share alike..
After a thought,
"EDUCATION COST MONEY!!!"
"Magnanimous" has no virtue in gambling, and people wont appreciate FREE education, why be a foolish kind man?
(in the voice of Will Ferrell as Alex Trebek)
.........and we have now reached, a new low!!! :sad2:
Hi Kimo
Quote from: thelaw on Aug 31, 09:33 AM 2015
(in the voice of Will Ferrell as Alex Trebek)
.........and we have now reached, a new low!!! :sad2:
Hi Law,
Thanks for your post.
U already have all that needed to win constantly.
it only a nick, of understanding and a little tweak.
and most of your method, that u diligently posted in this very forum,
will become a HG by it own right!
U are prodding at the , already obvious, and seek to perfect, what need not to be perfected.
Take a breather, relook at your past posting, and u will see that , with a little
"understanding" , u already have a HG...
there no need to fight the math boys, they already RIGHT, for ages, just embrace the obvious.
Thanks.
What do you mean by "Hi Kimo" ...
Is PA = Kimo Li ?
Cheers
To be clear, you are selling to highest bidder only?
Quote from: P.A on Aug 31, 11:24 AM 2015
Hi Law,
Thanks for your post.
U already have all that needed to win constantly.
it only a nick, of understanding and a little tweak.
and most of your method, that u diligently posted in this very forum,
will become a HG by it own right!
U are prodding at the , already obvious, and seek to perfect, what need not to be perfected.
Take a breather, relook at your past posting, and u will see that , with a little
"understanding" , u already have a HG...
there no need to fight the math boys, they already RIGHT, for ages, just embrace the obvious.
Thanks.
Hey, look everyone!!!
I caught myself a Troll..........................much easier than I expected!!! :sad2:
I start - i reckon the system is worth 1 Euro - i can pay with paypal.
Cheers
Thank god for guys like GLC, Atlantis, and others alike for their contributions. Take the time to write long drawn out explanations sincerely trying to help. This type of thing p.a. hurts the forum.
Need more GLCs and atlantis'
Hey you know what? An older friend of Lankys shared a method lanky used for years. Profited thousands.
He shared it with me. Lankys method was the closest i ever saw to a holy grail....
You know what i did? I didnt try to sell it
I spent hours writing up an explanation with examples and then you know what i did? I shared it with all the contributors on this forum privately
Why did i not post my explanations of lankys way publically? Because of people like P.A. and petespin.
I shared it with probably 50 percent of the members here
I see the forum as place to share ideas and share how they play. To give ideas and explanations. not a place to sell it.
The forum is a place to share and help. If your goal is to sell its not the place for u
This isnt ebay. Get a life.
PA has posted in the correct section "Products and services for sale"
If you dont like it, you can always ignore, folks!
This thread will also fade away............
Gentlemen,
Thanks for your comments.
I am not Kimo Li,
[he lives in the USA,
while I live in Asia,
GMT+8,
at the time he go for breakfast,
I go for dinner..hehehee.]
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Helo Law,
u had arsenal of strategy,
and u always scratching your head to find what went wrong with your methods...
If u read properly what I had post here,
and read very carefully,
u will soon understand, why & where your methods,
that always hit the wall.
U will soon understand that most of your failure&losses, stem from long losing losses, with too little win....streaks.
No need to hurry&hastily accuse me of sorts.
Thanks anyway.
Lanky's Divisors, is good as a progression, till the losses keep coming and produce losses, which is horrible and wipe out the early profit!
Lanky's is one of the BEST,
best only at as progression.
So does HP Johnson, and others.
Go read genius GLC's posting,
he has one of the best arsenal of progression!
BUT, progression is only as good as ... a progression,
till the LONG LOSING VARIANCE ...hit ,
and soon u lose your underwear. hahaha:w
Even the GLC,[I bow with respect],
always admit that his progressions ideas,
will lose, when the evil streaks arrive...
U need to AVOID horrible variance, and random, which the real causes of HUGE LOSSES.
u wanna a HG?
I already stated,
1]bet selection that constantly lose at the EDGE.
2]Avoidance of horrible VARIANCE.
3]Progression that wont grow to horrible staking.
4]Horrible variance in PROGRESSION...Avoidance.
U also need to cut-loss when Murphy's Law visiting.
But will offset by another season winning.
thanks for bidding.
Respected Learned Gentlemen,
1]"bet selection that constantly lose at the EDGE."
Some of u , who didnt read carefully what I had post her will LOL, or bewildered at that statement...LOSE, why lose at the edge?
I truly believe a few respected learned members here,
whom posses a HG, in their own right, that choose to say nothing, really understand why we need a selection that LOSE at the edge.
bet selection that constantly LOSE at the EDGE.
bet selection that constantly LOSE at the HOUSE EDGE.
Why not a selection, that win, over the EDGE???
Because they SIMPLY CANT EXIST!!!!!
and the math boys will 100% agreed with this statement, or rather MY STATEMENT!
Why Casino always WIN, long term.
1]House Edge..
that issue,
already stale since first casino open shop,
I wont say more.
I going bonker everytime people try to argue that.
2]Variance, that depleted the gambler bankroll.
3]Gambler progressive staking, that caused them,
or rather cost them their underwear..hahahaa
U cannot have, or rather invent a BET selection,
that definitely win over the HOUSE EDGE!
For 300years, people have try to, but fail
..and sadly,
I see people still trying today in various forum.
If u bet say, red only, flatbet...for 111spins/season.
u will win a few unit, for few seasons,
and lose a few unit, for few seasons,
and u happily win with your ,whatever progression.
THEN, wham! u only hit 40reds/111spins !
and soon lose your underwear!
[the world record was, and still is, only 69red in 200spins.]
Now U understand why u need a bet selection that hit within the house edge,
CONSISTENTLY,...
If your selection, only lose to the house EDGE, then in 111spins, flatbet, u only lose a few units...
AND now u build your progression,
AROUND, THE FEW UNITS LOSSES!!!
Thats why u need not a bet selection that win over EDGE,
that impossible,
u only need a selection that CONSTANTLY lose a few units, flatbet .,
in 100spins attempt...
and build a progression around the "few losses"!
If u do not have a selection that always hit within the edge, u will delightfully win a few seasons,
and , BUT,
u will lose HUGE, when the whammy 35hits/100spins arrive!!!
and lose your earlier winning and your capital TOO!!!
do u really understand what I try to tell u???
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 31, 02:47 PM 2015
Thank god for guys like GLC, Atlantis, and others alike for their contributions. Take the time to write long drawn out explanations sincerely trying to help. This type of thing p.a. hurts the forum.
Hi Roulette Ghost.
tell you this,
The Lanky's and ,
your ["this should taken private"] MATRIX 4wide, of Dozens,
will be very good partnership!,,till u part with your bankroll,
the matrix 4wide is good till u hit variance ,
with your ..
"wait for 2lose, and then bet"
am I right?
THAT matrix 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,or 9 wide,
already stale since first casino open shop.
but,...
If u know how to, to,to.., to avoid variance,and how to avoid variance in progression,
then , HEY, it a HG, too.!!!
NOW go scratch your head and think hard what I just told u.
thanks.
Am i the only one bidding? Does this mean i can buy your system for 1 Euro.
PA do you have paypal?
I send you half the money 0.5 Euro and you send me system and i send the rest of the money 0.5 Euro.
What you say?
Cheers
Quote from: ego on Aug 31, 01:36 PM 2015
Am i the only one bidding? Does this mean i can buy your system for 1 Euro.
I start - i reckon the system is worth 1 Euro - i can pay with paypal.
Cheers
Hey Ego,
How your series/single goes???
If u know how to win, then no need to venture into futures,
futures need to 'FOLLOW THE TREND', or u soon lose your underwear.
do u have the 'iron clad emotional control', before going berserk when the price go against u???
hehehee.
BTW, your series/single which u claim , win, flatbet ,
is HG if u know how to avoid variance, and a little mild progression, with avoidance .
The series/single is still one of the best.
no need to research the series/single, no more.
now, go to walk in the park, and think hard what I just enlighten u.
no need to pay any cent.
thanks.
Quote from: Tamino on Aug 31, 03:59 PM 2015
This thread will also fade away............
still shedding crocodile tears for LKY???
HEHEHE
Just to make the good folk aware of past posts here.
Thought I would investigate a little, and see what the history is....
P.A. 1st post
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?board=91.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?board=91.0)
and more interestingly, his 2nd......an intriguing read.
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?board=91.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?board=91.0)
So...as nearly correctly called, not quite Kimo...but one of his students.
Who maybe has seen the light an learnt themselves a decent system.....which is now for sale.
Good luck to the buyer.......and afterwards, perhaps the purchaser/user of said system could call back into the forum from their villa/yacht and tell us if it really is that good.
Cheers
Quote from: 1eleven on Aug 31, 11:20 AM 2015
Hi kxxx
Hey 1-11
feel delighted to win with that "Japan" system?
Wait till the variance hit and instead of winning hundred, u will soon lose your KIMONO...hahahaa.
Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 01, 02:37 AM 2015
So...as nearly correctly called, not quite Kimo...but one of his students.
Who maybe has seen the light an learnt themselves a decent system.....which is now for sale.
Good luck to the buyer.
Helo Chrisbis,
I am a fan of KIMO, GLC, BAYES, THELAW, and many others.
I read and make research, and make test, and make assumption, and make lectures , and make statements....AND offer sales...nothing wrong with that.
instead of trying to pick nitty gritty petty nasty, why not u reread my words and maybe , a few may enlighten your subconscious seeker light bulb,
for a HG?
The making of a HG, ingredients, are here in this very forum itself!
There expert in bet selection, expert at progression, expert of nonsense , and expert of petty issues.
PATCH them up, and u have a HG. by your own right!
If u read care fully what I post in this very TOPIC, u cant DENY, what I stated here. The math boys cant deny them.
I have post here what needed to build a HG.
Then it is up to u, to really understand or denying that a HG can exist.
Well, nobody force somebody to learn from anybody, but some choose to be busybody to try to influence everybody.
and of course.
Caveat emptor!
KIMO LI,
I want to make it clear.
I am not student of KIMO LI,
and never taught by him in any way.
never pay him a single cent,
and never get any attention from him, or any email, from him about his strategy.
The only email , i got from him, was to ask, how I get hold one of his book, ebook, without paying him, and who sent me, the ebook?!
When I refused to tell the sender name, he just ignore me.
And Mind U,
Kimo Li, is a shrewd businessman,
and a good mass communicator too.
and very good at intriguing people mind,
with his antic, and strategy.
He will make good advertising GURU.
Though he never publicly published,
or rather hints publicly, his so called, method,
And there always
'now u see it, now u dont"
"I knew, but will never tell",
make me intrigued and try to learn his method,
so called strategy, by myself,
but alas, till today, no one know how his real strategy,
and the methods, that I thought I knew,
no better than any other system in forums.
and there always,
PAID STUDENT, but UNFAIR to them if Kimo LI bares his strategy,
DUHHH!!!
err,.. Kimo has a HG?
Who cares?
JUST forget it.
Learned Gentlemen,
With Respect.
U want to create a HG.
A HG system, compromise 4 section.
1] Bet selection that always hit within MATH EXPECTATION,
2]Horrible Variance Avoidance.
3]Progression.
4] Progression losses avoidance.
Let me explain.
1] Bet selection that always hit within MATH EXPECTATION,
Stop searching for BET selection, that will win over the HOUSE EDGE.
They simply cant EXIST.
It is like buying a sack of potato for 100 dollar and then sell for 99dollar!
U never make profit, no matter how many sacks sold.
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So, U need to accept that a bet selection will lose, say EC bet, roulette, will lose around 3,4,5 units after 100spins, FLATBET.
That a fact, indisputable by math boys.
So , now u have a bet selection, that CONSTANTLY hit within the math expectation,...
and now u BUILD your progression around the ..
"ohh..lose a few units, after 100spins, consistently"
Hmmm, I see many readers here found a new fact today, after reading my above statement.
How many even realised, that one should not fight the EDGE, but rather embrace the inevitable, but build progression around the selection?
Can anyone dispute that ?
Can anyone disagree with that ?
Can anyone arguing that ?
Now everyone, except the already known, learn a new theory of gambling,
and a HG.
Thanks.
Learne Gentlemen,
This is off topic, but interesting, for some future, 'make it happen' entrepreneur.
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It is like buying a sack of potato for 100 dollar and then sell for 99dollar!
U never make profit, no matter how many sacks sold.
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So how to make profit if u keep selling below cost?
I read a book, by the late founder of WALMART.
there a 'single sentence',
in the book, that SUMMARIZE, the success of WALMART.
As a businessman , myself,
after 30years of dealing with people,
I do understand the psychology of mass consumerism.
where people vote with their feet...
That sentence ALONE, may spark many criticsm, of the evilness, greed, and what-not,...
of how a huge corporation, sells at cost, or below cost, trampling competitors,
to increase traffic, and make huge profit .
If u not a business minded person, u never know what this mean, or the late Sam Walton, mean...
U want to be a successful BUSINESSMAN?
Read that book, and tell me, how that "sentence" read,
and in very short few years time of selling, u will be wealthy.
I tried that out and its true...
Quote from: P.A on Sep 01, 01:54 AM 2015
Now U understand why u need a bet selection that hit within the house edge,
CONSISTENTLY,...
If your selection, only lose to the house EDGE, then in 111spins, flatbet, u only lose a few units...
AND now u build your progression,
AROUND, THE FEW UNITS LOSSES!!!
Thats why u need not a bet selection that win over EDGE,
that impossible,
u only need a selection that CONSTANTLY lose a few units, flatbet .,
in 100spins attempt...
and build a progression around the "few losses"!
If u do not have a selection that always hit within the edge, u will delightfully win a few seasons,
and , BUT,
u will lose HUGE, when the whammy 35hits/100spins arrive!!!
and lose your earlier winning and your capital TOO!!!
do u really understand what I try to tell u???
Yes, but you almost sound like CEH, only your theory sounds better and possible.
Quote from: ego on Aug 31, 01:36 PM 2015
I start - i reckon the system is worth 1 Euro - i can pay with paypal.
Cheers
I am the only one bidding, my last and final offer 2 Euro for PA system.
I send half first then i want system then i send second half.
I use paypal.
Cheers
I find it funny how PA's English posts have improved on this thread while TRYING to defend his truth.
All of a sudden is selling a "HG" ............. This is very sad coming that someone who claims to only play "on paper"
Game over. Save your 2 euro.
Hi PA,
Is this a system or a strategy? Just follow a set of rules and make profit?
where on earth is your love for your "guru" Albalaha beat-the-wheel ?
O0
I bid $5.00
Serious offer.
Notice that PA is not actually responding to offers for the system.
This is yet again another attempt to get attention.................he's essentially gas-lighting the forum.
There is no system for sale...........................when will we learn!!! :question:
He will continue to provide worthless bread-crumbs until a mod shuts him down.
PA started this thread under the guise of "selling a system", but then switched to a discussion of strategy right out of the gate...........................tricky trolling.:sad2:
Quote from: thelaw on Sep 01, 09:16 AM 2015
Notice that PA is not actually responding to offers for the system.
This is yet again another attempt to get attention.................he's essentially gas-lighting the forum.
There is no system for sale...........................when will we learn!!! :question:
He will continue to provide worthless bread-crumbs until a mod shuts him down.
PA started this thread under the guise of "selling a system", but then switched to a discussion of strategy right out of the gate...........................tricky trolling.:sad2:
In his defense it is proper section. But he is abusing it. If a system is for sale provide a link with a payment option
As far as i can see he is breaking forum rules dragging people along
As long as this is allowed it will continue. Dragging people along
P.A.
show a link or similar to buy this and how much cost or I will lock the topic tomorrow.
Its turning into a waffle fest.
Can PA's grail be as good as this, I wonder..?
A.
Quote from: Turner on Sep 01, 09:59 AM 2015
P.A.
show a link or similar to buy this and how much cost or I will lock the topic tomorrow.
Its turning into a waffle fest.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Cant u understand the word
"BIDDING", and PREROGATIVE???
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It seems that after I explained all the way,
how my grail work,
some learned gentlemen here,
out of sheer frustration,
[caused by,
after many years of testing the SAME theories,
again, and again, hoping for new different outcome!,
and found out that their strategy cant win constantly...]
start to, uh...,
unhappy with my posting and instead of some self- reflection,
deep thinking, and make quick research...
of their own strategy shortcoming,
and where it should be tweak,
[which could be easily understood, if they carefully read my postings here.]
begin to post some not very gentlemanly words here.
No one forcing anyone to buy, to bid, or offer any price here.
Even if u do not interested to bid,
my explanations here, could lighten the ideas bulb in your mind.
All your system are HG,
only if ,
u know how to avoid horrible variance,
how to avoid variance in progression.
I already say, to gentlemen ,
like the respected TheLaw, Roulette Ghost, Atlantis...etc
U already have sort of , HG, in hand,
but u choose to test, the same failed theories,
again and again, hoping for new...err... DISCOVERIES???
I already told u,
best selection, is the one that keep losing at the edge. period.
without the knowledge of variance and random taming,
u all could forget about gambling.
u just continue to test and test and test all the same theories,
again, and again, hoping for new outcome...?
A few members here understand perfectly what I mean,
but choose to shut up.
To respected Turner,
please delete this topic.
thanks.
Quote from: atlantis on Sep 01, 10:36 AM 2015
Can PA's grail be as good as this, I wonder..?
A.
That i would pay for
and to all the NEWBIES here,
if u are newbies, just itchy to learn about gambling,
happen to read this topic, I have a valuable FREE advice for all of U.
Read carefully and try to understand what I tell u,
u better copy and keep in your computer what I going to tell u,
for some reference, when u feel frustrated in your journey of learning,
the quest of, how to beat the wheel!
The roulette wheel...
I stated,
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1]bet selection that constantly lose at the EDGE.
No bet selection will constantly win over the house edge.
50% of your test will win over the edge , and the rest will way below the math expectation.
U be DELIGHTED,
when a test for EC 100spins,
produce 10 20, or even 30units positive,
but then , dismayed when , another test lose -10,-20,-30units!
that just luck, and unlucky way to gambling!!!
Never test bet selection, that hoping, result be
superior than the edge, search for selection,
that constantly hit just at, or below the edge..
eg.. EC bet should hit losses of 3,4,5 units. flatbet.
Dont lose your time and sleep over this quest for "superior" bet selection !
they just cant exist!!!
2]Avoidance of horrible VARIANCE.
if u bet every spins, EC, flatbet,
u will notice uneven hit between the red and black,
but after very longggg testing, red and black will not very far away.
the problem is ,impossible to bet for thousands bet,
in bm casino.
thus in short term bet, 100 200, 300 spins,
u will see that red and black will have imbalance hit..
the record is 69 red/200spins..
and,
only 70, 80,81hit, in 200spins, happen many-many time
3]Progression that wont grow to horrible staking.
just forget progression, for the mean time,
progression are DEADLY,
very deadly, if u dont understand the variance.
Go read GLC postings, and thanks him,
Be courteous...
4]Horrible variance in PROGRESSION...Avoidance.
u just cant understand this, as a newbie...
progression are just DEADLY,
in long losing streak, with too little win in between.
thanks,
but just forget gambling,
go do honest job.
dont ruin your life.
P.A. ..... im playing a system mentioned above for months now. Fast RNG (500-1000spins/day (max 2hours))....All as flat as a Asian nose.... My bets started at 1â,¬ . And now at 100â,¬. How i stop that RFH ? Easy... money management.
And about your math facts...well those are correct. We all know that. Textbook material. Unfortunately the outcome does not distribute that nicely. But if you play many spins (rng cuz live you gonna need a team ) then we can use those facts to our benefit. Again flat.
Denzie
Quote from: atlantis on Sep 01, 10:36 AM 2015
Can PA's grail be as good as this, I wonder..?
A.
Now thats a chart that gets my attention.
Ken
Quote from: denzie on Sep 01, 11:25 AM 2015
P.A. ..... im playing a system mentioned above for months now. Fast RNG (500-1000spins/day (max 2hours))....All as flat as a Asian nose.... My bets started at 1â,¬ . And now at 100â,¬. How i stop that RFH ? Easy... money management.
And about your math facts...well those are correct. We all know that. Textbook material. Unfortunately the outcome does not distribute that nicely. But if you play many spins (rng cuz live you gonna need a team ) then we can use those facts to our benefit. Again flat.
Denzie
Care to clarify this?
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 01, 02:05 PM 2015
Now thats a chart that gets my attention.
Ken
hi Ken, RG,
It was a line (doublestreet) system I worked on a while ago..
The graph was a real session though, tested today.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Sep 01, 05:11 PM 2015
hi Ken, RG,
It was a line (doublestreet) system I worked on a while ago..
The graph was a real session though, tested today.
A.
Yes, that chart show very delighted result.
But if your strategy, included the criteria that I said, then, it is a HG,
but if NOT, then...
[U be DELIGHTED, when a test 100spins,
produce 10 20, or even 30units positive,
but then , dismayed when , another test lose -10,-20,-30units!]
if u test more test, preferably another 100test, u will see that the win/lose ratio will within edge and math expectation, and the rest depend on LUCKY, or UNLUCKY expedition.
Quote from: denzie on Sep 01, 11:25 AM 2015
P.A. .........All as flat as a Asian nose.... How i stop that RFH ? Easy... money management.
And about your math facts...well those are correct. We all know that. Textbook material. Unfortunately the outcome does not distribute that nicely.
Denzie
Hi Denzie,
My Asian nose, really FLAT...hahahaaaa:.
My math fact absolutely correct,
but not all readers here REALLY understand absolutely,
as they are too hasty,
and too hurry to chastise what I say.
U say,
""Unfortunately the outcome does not distribute that nicely. "
YES! that one of the point I try to tell,
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"the outcome that does not DISTRIBUTE nicely."
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If u know how to tackle this very ISSUE, then ,
u already turn your strategy, into a HG, FLATBET.
REREAD, what I posted.
Alas, Turner going to lock this topic, sigh,
if we forget the "sales" pitch,
we going to have lively and merry argument here.
Well , learn to laugh at ourselves, be courteous, be humble, agree to disagree...
we have nothing to lose, but gain education, priceless education, by engage in constructive argument...and mutual respect.
since the respected Turner going to lock this topic,
just forget the sale&bidding.
I will post a "RIDDLE" here.
The members who understand will shut up and lament..
"Oh NO! This crazy guy open the pandora box!!!"
The members who do not understand will post FUNNY-funny words here.
If u could solve this riddle , then u on the way to turn your system into a HG!
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In a wonderland, a wonderful casino advertise..
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"New Roulette RNG Game,
100spins only per game, then reset.
with GUARANTEED FIXED 30 BLACK VERSUS 70 RED.
in any permutation!
[30black + 70 red=100spins per game]
The ONLY Rules: U could ONLY bet BLACK!.
and stake and bet and play anyway as u like!"
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If I come across this wonderful casino,
I could win, every day!
could u win???
it sad, because the respected Turner threaten to lock this topic.
Where I did wrong.
I just make lively sales pitch,
to show how a HG should work.
If I wanna buy a sport car,
the sales wouldnt say..
"TAKE it or leave it. period"
The sales person, will sing a song of ...
how the wonderful engineering feats,
the macho sleek look,
the 0 to 100kmh in 3second,
the stability when cornering,
and bla,bla,viola...
And then Turner say,
"SHUT up!
He just want a sport car! dont tell him anything!
???????????????????
hahahahaaaa:!!
I say BIDDING, and my PREROGATIVE.
just open dictionary and learn new words.
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For years, I see peoples in forums, discussing and testing same theories, again, and again, and again, and again...
Hoping for new discoveries?!
But when I open my mouth,
trying to point out where to go,
those peoples BALK at me,
Of course I post as sale,
but I also explaining through and through.
No one force anyone to bid,
u may just discuss, and learn, and agreed to disagreed.
It just that simple.
Helena say, it just good theories, but the question,
is , did u really-really understand the theory?
No...afraid not...
if u cant even UNDERSTAND the simple theory...,
BET SELECTION, that CONSTANTLY lose at math expectation,
and build progression, and avoidance strategy AROUND IT...
Then go for honest job, and FORGET gambling!
Dont ruin your life!
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When human realised they cant fly , by flapping wings with hands, like bird,
the try to have mechanical flapping wings, and then, when that fail,
they try fixed wings...then propeller, then jet, then rocket, then space exploration.
But maybe ,there some people still try to fly by flapping wing by hands.
U must have a bet selection, that ALWAYS HIT within the math expectation!
Say, EC bet, FLATBET, test for 100spins, for a thousand time,
and the bet selection, must 100%, LOSE only a few units, not win.
If the selection show, win +10, then at another test, LOSE -10, then that selection a FLAW! that just luck play.
The BET selection, must always produce , around -5, for all the time. day in day out, albeit when MURPHY LAW come a visit.
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A stable, rigid, BET SELECTION, that CONSTANTLY lose at math expectation,
[not win, but LOSE!!!]
and build progression, and avoidance strategy AROUND IT...
I dont think I will be putting this into room 101.
No one is complaining....or listening for that matter....and anyhow, its hilarious.
I would venture to say that most people here totally understand what you're on about by now.
And you've mentioned it enough times now. No need to keep repeating! We all agree that it makes 100% sense the points you made and we're well aware of them and the difficulty in overcoming them...
So, PA - if you're not selling then do you care to enlighten us as to how YOU yourself have solved this "problem" and thereby discovered the HG??
How about show a quick example play session to demonstrate your idea of how YOU yourself avoid all these pitfalls and dangers you warn us about and arrive at an ideal SOLUTION?
Please do not reply with banging on with even more CRYPTICS, RIDDLES or LECTURES - why not just post a working theory or method?
AND THEN WE CAN TALK AND DISCUSS ABOUT IT instead of going nowhere!
Regards,
A.
Since Respected Turner found this side hilarious, lets move to...
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15860.new#new (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15860.new#new)
and debate seriously.
Quote from: atlantis on Sep 02, 04:17 AM 2015
I would venture to say that most people here totally understand what you're on about by now.
And you've mentioned it enough times now. No need to keep repeating! We all agree that it makes 100% sense the points you made and we're well aware of them and the difficulty in overcoming them...
So, PA - if you're not selling then do you care to enlighten us as to how YOU yourself have solved this "problem" and thereby discovered the HG??
How about show a quick example play session to demonstrate your idea of how YOU yourself avoid all these pitfalls and dangers you warn us about and arrive at an ideal SOLUTION?
Please do not reply with banging on with even more CRYPTICS, RIDDLES or LECTURES - why not just post a working theory or method?
AND THEN WE CAN TALK AND DISCUSS ABOUT IT instead of going nowhere!
Regards,
A.
Hi Atlantis ,
with Respect.
Since the highest bid is...4 euro...sigh,
then just forget the bidding and sale.
Just realised that..
No one will care to buy a system, at high price,
and no one will sell a HG at peanut... period.
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Just forget the whole thing, but concentrate on the educational part.
Most members not understand my points.
U understand my points, because, u already an OLD timer, u had spent thousand HOURS testing , reading, and banging head on table, to reached the high level of understanding. [Me too...!]
The time I spent on researching gambling, if spent on reading law, I could be called into bar as an attorney, next year...hahahaaaha:
And I keep repeating! because of thick skull, that we have,
a simple thing need reminded many-many time , so the sub conscious will understand it..
Am not selling . period,
but enlighten with "problem" solving, and let u all learned the hard way.
solved the riddle, and ask by PM your few ally/friends in this forum, they have the answer, I think.
CRYPTICS, RIDDLES or LECTURES -
is the way for thick skull to really motivated to work hard for the answer.
why just post a working theory or method?
after years of bulging eyes, midnight oil,[ like what u had go through]?
Atlantis....welll put. A tad more subtle than I did.
PA. Dont underestimate the level of understanding of the members of the forum. Some clever guys here.
Its best to continue in the manner you and Atlantis suggest.
Could be interesting if you make it so
Sorry for saying it was hilarious. Probably could of been nicer
Thanks
Thank respected Turner for your advice.
I never-never-never underestimate members level of intelligent...
In fact P always respect,
and , I always over-estimate their level of intelligent...,
But alas, some prefer to "BALK" when they cant disagree, or when their point of view not condone by others.
Thanks.
RG..I am taking time to smooth things out and you stir it up again. I deleted your post
Quote from: Turner on Sep 02, 07:14 AM 2015
RG..I am taking time to smooth things out and you stir it up again. I deleted your post
Yes........because it's clearly RG who is causing all of this trouble, just like I was causing trouble with Kimo Li's thread (who ran the same scam) when Iggiv deleted my posts. :question:
It's official..............................we no longer care about beating the game, just drama. :sad2:
@1eleven....sorry but i can't as it is not my system. I do not wanna disrespect the guy who told me. I just play it a bit different to get the max out it. @the guy....this why im so silent. ....im tested the sh*t out of it....^^
Quote from: thelaw on Sep 02, 09:07 AM 2015
Yes........because it's clearly RG who is causing all of this trouble, just like I was causing trouble with Kimo Li's thread (who ran the same scam) when Iggiv deleted my posts. :question:
It's official..............................we no longer care about beating the game, just drama. :sad2:
Im playing Hearts and Flowers on a violin just for you
I have a strong gut feeling that P.A. is someone else who is already on this forum and/or tied to others here
The law, as far as my post being deleted i can see why turner deleted it. What i DONT understand is why someone can post a system for bids with breadcrumbs and dragging people along. Either its for sale or it isnt. Dragging people along, riddles, talking in circles, all it is is a bunch of BS. Guys like me and u know it we've seen it before. He probably has nothing at all. Like a falkor.
Quote from: Turner on Sep 02, 11:03 AM 2015
Im playing Hearts and Flowers on a violin just for you
Wow....................thanks for making my point for me Turner!
With mods like you, who needs trolls :question:
RouletteForumCC = tod - 11:07am 09/02/2015.........................it was great while it lasted! :thumbsup:
RG.. thanks for understanding.
Im well up on who is who from IP adresses. Leave that side of things to the mods. Just worry about making a good contibutution as you usually do.
RouletteGhost, and TheLaw,
With respect.
For ONCE and For all..
I am not, repeat, am not Kimo, Reyth, or others.
I used to be "beat-the-wheel", on the Betselection.cc, Gamblingforum,
and 'weird', on roulette30,
Nothing wrong with that.
Here ,
I am only P.A and affiliated to none,
nor trying to make any cent from anyone here.
The sales pitch and offer is just an attempt,
to see how much people will willing to part with their money for knowledge,
for knowledge is potential power.
Since I believed you understand precisely, the word, 'BIDDING', and 'prerogative' ,
U are free to bid, and I may choose to respond or not...
nothing wrong with that...
u may propose, and I may refuse your proposal..
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whats wrong with u guys???
When people post reply, I need to reply,
the 'feeling of important' and the 'ego' in my subconcious mind,
make me EAGER, to make lecture,
like a highly motivated motor-mouth,
eagerly lecture to his eager listeners, ..
nothing wrong with that!
U may start a thread, and I will never say anything bad or condemning other ideas, just because I dont like their ideas, opinion, or posting.
If I dont like anyone thread, I just read halfway, and leave..just that simple.
I do not resort to uncouth words, or scolding, or accusing people scamming.
If I come across people selling, which I being bombarded everytime I surf the net, I just ignore and move on, why cant u just do that?
Why must u guys, need to say something nasty about others,
No , I am not upset with u guys, I just INTRIGUED with your behavior...
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were there any unhappy incident in the past , in younger day, that hurt u guys and still haunted by the incident, that subconciously, make u upset, and the urge to respond in angry way?
Maybe u have the urge, to feel important, or superior, or just upset, or feel being bullied, when u cant 'get even' with people.
Maybe we could be friend, and share some light moment, and lead some happy life..
Life too short, to live in anger, sadness,loneliness, and regret...
Not many can live past 100years old, we have only a few tens of years left, before going up, or rather underground.
look at the mirror, look at the eyes,
your eyes are looking like you are going to hurt someone...
deep inside your heart, u are not a tough man, no need to be a tough man, just be a normal human, with emotion, positive emotion.
Smiles, and your eyes smile too.
"The sales pitch and offer is just an attempt,
to see how much people will willing to part with their money for knowledge,
for knowledge is potential power."
So now PA has admitted to lying about the intentions of the thread...................................
..........................what is it going to take for a mod to step in here??? :question:
Quote from: thelaw on Sep 02, 12:36 PM 2015
"The sales pitch and offer is just an attempt,
to see how much people will willing to part with their money for knowledge,
for knowledge is potential power."
So now PA has admitted to lying about the intentions of the thread...................................
..........................what is it going to take for a mod to step in here??? :question:
that's a v v valid point thelaw :thumbsup:
Misleading to say the least.....
O0
Helooo thelaw, and ddarko...
"The sales pitch and offer is just an attempt,
to see how much people will willing to part with their money for knowledge,
for knowledge is potential power."
MY HG IS RESULT OF YEARS' HARDWORK,
WHICH I FREELY AND EAGERLY SHARE THE INGREDIENTS HERE,
BUT NOT THE RECIPE..
IF PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PAY WORTHWHILE PRICE THAT I CANT REFUSE,
WHY NOT?
why are u so unhappy with the attention I got here???
Start your own thread with mind and brain raking topic, and I will not criticize, or accuse u anything...
if I dont like what I see, I just leave, and say nothing!!! ...[period].
good night, need to hit the bed...zzzz
Quote from: P.A on Sep 02, 12:52 PM 2015
"The sales pitch and offer is just an attempt,
to see how much people will willing to part with their money for knowledge,
for knowledge is potential power."
MY HG IS RESULT OF YEARS' HARDWORK,
Two months ago you were posting question after question to your guru over at GF. I don't believe you have anything.
You then start a post selling an HG, when in fact your not......
Misleading members here is obviously going to get ppl's back's up, and quickly.
Yet for some reason you cannot see why...... ::)
I waste my time on a lot of things, from now on they WON'T include you......
O0
Bye Kimo
Dear TheLaw, RouletteGhost, DDarko, 1-11, and others.
With respect.
Please,
The last thing I want is enemy, or nemesis.
First thing first.
Ok , I stop , the BIDDING clause, so u need not shriek "SCAMMER' to me, no more.
Second.
I do not understand why u guys upset with my posting.
I never cheat and
and this my first "SALE",
I do get some PM, asking for price, but I declined.
as u see, no one complaining to date.
I just open shop,
and I get punches, flying kicks, uppercut, chops, and all the kung fu, karate, taekwondo, jujitsu,...deadly blow...from u all....and need to closed shop...before a first sales...hahhaaaahaaw.
Third.
I read some of your strategy and progressions postings,
and I can see NONE, a HG.
U all deligently doing testing, and more testing.
When A test show positive result, u guys ,
thought ,"WOW, this may HG, and felt GOOD
and smiles all day long, and then when more test,
they show terrible losses, and u guys grumpy all night long...
\
Am I right?
I know, because , I also in your SHOES!!!
Now I tell u, all your testing and methods and strategy of whatever names, are FLAWED!
Where the FLAWS?!
Instead of reading slowly and diligently what I try to tell, u guys choose to ,
wasting time, scolding me.
OK, I am not perfect, I may boasting and use some words that not pleasing, and hurt your EGO,
I say sorry.
But if u relook, at all your recorded test stuff,
u may realised that the flaw, or flaws, lie in..
1]Bet selection that swing to positive and to negative, WIDELY.
2]The progression that grow deadly huge, and horrible..that a nick of wins, may recoup, but then , many time the nick comes late, and the DD grow to unacceptable amount.
I add, no progression will win, if the bet selection FLAWED!
they become DEADLY!
What u think.
hope u guys give some ideas.
Thanks.