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Title: Well I never!
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 29, 04:51 PM 2015
Well I never seen that before!
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 29, 05:28 PM 2015
Why on gods green earth r u playing rng
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 29, 05:30 PM 2015
Cause can win at it!...plus there 'is' no Green Goblin since you mention the colour!

Nice, balanced just off EC bet, and plenty of variety. ;)
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Turner on Sep 29, 05:34 PM 2015
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 29, 05:28 PM 2015
Why on gods green earth r u playing rng

I would like to ask the same question....not RNG per se....but an online Casino RNG

Two Cat Sam and Greatgrandpa/Priyanka always used that same "roulette wheel that looks like a pinball machine" malarkey

i wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw it. And I guess you wernt on the winning end of 5 x 29
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 29, 05:39 PM 2015
Quotei wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw it. And I guess you wernt on the winning end of 5 x 29

I was...but only the first two, as I had watched for the repeat, but never guessed it was going hit 5 times!


BV is such a fair site like you wouldn't believe.......if only you could get to read the code 'like what I have done'
(RIP Ernie&Wise)
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 29, 05:47 PM 2015
my local casino has video roulette and airball roulette

i barely trust those
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 29, 06:02 PM 2015
Note the flat betting stakes.

(Just in case you're not familiar with the game stats....23.65 is the wagering and the 12.80 is the net gain/loss position (in 0.00 cents))
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Priyanka on Sep 29, 06:21 PM 2015
Quote from: Turner on Sep 29, 05:34 PM 2015
I would like to ask the same question....not RNG per se....but an online Casino RNG

Two Cat Sam and Greatgrandpa/Priyanka always used that same "roulette wheel that looks like a pinball machine" malarkey

i wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw it. And I guess you wernt on the winning end of 5 x 29
Certain things has to be experienced to be trusted.

Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 29, 06:25 PM 2015
are all those withdrawls or payments?
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 29, 06:27 PM 2015
@Priyanka
I'd love to know how you are performing that neat trick young lady!  :thumbsup:

Please 8)

[reveal]I just knew it was possible![/reveal]
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 29, 06:31 PM 2015
if i had a screen shot like that id give you 25% and thats no joke
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: ozon on Sep 29, 06:59 PM 2015
If someone will give me earn 2K euros a month  from  roulette will give him 33% to the end of my  life
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Turner on Sep 29, 07:01 PM 2015
Quote from: Priyanka on Sep 29, 06:21 PM 2015
Certain things has to be experienced to be trusted.
touché
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Priyanka on Sep 29, 07:18 PM 2015
Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 29, 06:27 PM 2015
I'd love to know how you are performing that neat trick young lady!  :thumbsup:
Chris - it is down to mere luck. :-\ I dont know when that run is going to end, but at least i know that i can make a few more withdrawals like this.

The whole point why i posted is to show that it is a fair site, very helpful people, but heavily understaffed(may be because they are fair). Just the mere word of RNG doesnt have to lead to the belief that they cheat. Cheaters can cheat even on a live wheel with a ball rolling in front of you. They dont have to cheat to earn money. They just can be fair and earn money. They completely understand human psych
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 29, 07:21 PM 2015
Quote from: Priyanka on Sep 29, 07:18 PM 2015
Chris -.....
The whole point why i posted is to show that it is a fair site, very helpful people, but heavily understaffed(may be because they are fair). They don't have to cheat to earn money. They just can be fair to earn money. They completely understand human psych

So very true.
I can not fault them.......luck is down to the beholder...........and loop feedback learning!! "Wink Wink"
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: helena on Sep 29, 08:11 PM 2015
BV is used by quite a few people on here who in the past have testified to their honesty and I have seen a simular sequence to the 5x29 in a live B&M casino.
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: denzie on Sep 29, 10:19 PM 2015
BV is to be trusted for sure. They send you the nrs in a file that you can open after they have spun.

BTW great results  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 29, 10:23 PM 2015
BV doesnt take US players. Awesome
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Steve on Sep 29, 11:25 PM 2015
Ive seen 4 consecutive numbers before, but never 5. It was on a real wheel. I dont think the fact that it's RNG means the casino is cheating, or software flawed. Sequences like this are rare but bound to happen sooner or later.
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: MrJ on Sep 29, 11:41 PM 2015
(00 wheel)......on RNG, this is what would "catch my eye".....you are betting heavily on the 18 for many spins and the 6 hits four times in a row.

Ken
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 29, 11:53 PM 2015
Being in the US i dont even know where id look for fair rng. Local casino has video roulette

But as far as online goes i have 5dimes. Their rng is RTG i believe. Who knows how faor RTG is

Club world group takes US. Casino mester says they r ok. But who knows
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: MrJ on Sep 30, 12:37 AM 2015
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 29, 11:41 PM 2015
(00 wheel)......on RNG, this is what would "catch my eye".....you are betting heavily on the 18 for many spins and the 6 hits four times in a row.

Ken

That 6 will keep drawing you in (perhaps a couple 31's as well), keep betting heavily on that 18 BUT....its predetermined, that 18 won't be hitting as long as you continue. Screw RNG, no thanks.

Ken
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 30, 12:59 AM 2015
Everyone to their own game eh Ken

I said to A member yesterday, that I take my hat off to all players who go into a B&M casino,
and lay their hard earned £$E down on the felt, and try to beat the wheel and the dealer.

I feel, with RNG game (I know its not real roulette....acknowledge that), that I only have to beat the
"Wheel".....(its 'output', in essence)......and nothing else.

Kudos to all players IMHO   O0
.........................
BTW......I'm up Euro10 this morning after 2 minutes play, and I only bet with 'cents'.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 30, 01:55 AM 2015
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 29, 11:53 PM 2015
Being in the US i dont even know where id look for fair rng. Local casino has video roulette

But as far as online goes i have 5dimes. Their rng is RTG i believe. Who knows how faor RTG is

Club world group takes US. Casino mester says they r ok. But who knows

Five Dimes' Live wheel is good imo*check which dealers agree with your system(s).

RTG casino software RNG stinks (stay away)
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 30, 03:25 AM 2015
Five Dimes/Celtic Casino Live Roulette Dealers to avoid!

The male dealers love to spin the ball 30 times around the wheel?!

Two female dealers to avoid: There is an older woman comes in at 11pm CDT (Karol) 
who thumps the ball instead or rolls it and Alejandra *I think she thumps the balls also.

Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: ati on Sep 30, 04:08 AM 2015
Wow Chris, that's a rare thing. I was wondering if I will ever see 5 in a row. I don't know how many spins I played on BV so far, my rough guess would be around 200k, and the max repeat I saw was 4.

Impressive results Priyanka, most of us wish we could do the same. I only made â,¬450 this year :) 90% of the time I played with 1 cent units though, and still, I risked my entire roll too often when progressions got out of hand. So I pulled the break, and in the past couple of months I only played in excel.
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Normy2000 on Sep 30, 08:42 AM 2015
I posted this picture in may 2013, same RNG, 5 x 10 this times...
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Drazen on Oct 15, 03:38 PM 2015
This has been already posted in the past, but I can boast too with my rare event ;)

I have recorded this personaly few years ago on DB.

You should have seen this when this croupier spun 5 times in a row. After number hit 5th time in a row, croupier raised his hands victoriously being honoured he caused so rare event. Then he called other croupier on opposite table to see this also. Pitboss also came in a half of a minute and they all together had a good laugh at this situation.

And the men you see playing won on 4th and 5th spun of this number LoL

Cheers

Drazen
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: onetaste on Oct 15, 03:43 PM 2015
does anyone else have the habbit of automatically looking for the facebook  "like" button on posts forgetting your on the forum? ha.
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Turner on Oct 15, 04:47 PM 2015
Quote from: Drazen on Oct 15, 03:38 PM 2015
This has been already posted in the past, but I can boast too with my rare event ;)

I have recorded this personaly few years ago on DB.

You should have seen this when this croupier spun 5 times in a row. After number hit 5th time in a row, croupier raised his hands victoriously being honoured he caused so rare event. Then he called other croupier on opposite table to see this also. Pitboss also came in a half of a minute and they all together had a good laugh at this situation.

And the men you see playing won on 4th and 5th spun of this number LoL

Cheers

Drazen

happens  once in 69 million spins.
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: MrJ on Oct 15, 07:35 PM 2015
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 30, 03:25 AM 2015
Five Dimes/Celtic Casino Live Roulette Dealers to avoid!

The male dealers love to spin the ball 30 times around the wheel?!

Two female dealers to avoid: There is an older woman comes in at 11pm CDT (Karol) 
who thumps the ball instead or rolls it and Alejandra *I think she thumps the balls also.

Speaking of CC, does anyone know why they ring that bell if there is a back to back SAME number?

Ken
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 15, 07:57 PM 2015
Speaking of CC, does anyone know why they ring that bell if there is a back to back SAME number?--Ken

My first guess was it was a restroom break, but come to think of it they
do change dealers during that time so it could be to stop dealer's signature.
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: MrJ on Oct 15, 09:45 PM 2015
 Yes and no. I'm on CC probably 6 days a week (thanks to you BTW). A simple back to back, they will ring bell but no dealer change. Three in a row? Yep, dealer is gone. Maybe 2 hours ago, a guy hit the 26 three in a row. Last week, this lady hit this >> 00 00 25 25 1 36 00 10 (all in same section), she rang bell, they replaced her.

Ken
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: petespin on Oct 16, 07:48 AM 2015
well u never ,but the question in rng roulette  is how often u can see events like that ? and supposed that they offer a kind of fairness control!! imagine if they didnt :twisted:
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: petespin on Oct 16, 10:26 AM 2015
steve u mention that sequences like that do happen some times , but u know what i believe , that time it was the bad sequence in the single number , the next bad sequence will be in colors, the next in even odds,etc the only thing they do is to adjust their software against any different playing style , thats the truth , the sad thruth !
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Azim on Oct 16, 11:19 AM 2015
Quote from: petespin on Oct 16, 10:26 AM 2015
steve u mention that sequences like that do happen some times , but u know what i believe , that time it was the bad sequence in the single number , the next bad sequence will be in colors, the next in even odds,etc the only thing they do is to adjust their software against any different playing style , thats the truth , the sad thruth !


I totally disagree and I can prove it to you whenever you want.

Why do I say that?

I have a bot that runs 24 hours playing rng and doesn't place any bets. All it does is collect the numbers from software.

I have seen that a lot of times. I have also seen 33 hits on one of the even chance in a row.
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Big EZ on Oct 16, 01:05 PM 2015
Quote from: Azim on Oct 16, 11:19 AM 2015

I have also seen 33 hits on one of the even chance in a row.


What other "extremes" have you seen from you RNG bot
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 16, 01:25 PM 2015
I dislike rng. Even if rng is random it still wont behave like a wheel
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Azim on Oct 16, 02:05 PM 2015
Quote from: Big EZ on Oct 16, 01:05 PM 2015

What other "extremes" have you seen from you RNG bot

I was saving screen shoots after every spin to make sure the extremes were correct and nothing wrong with my capture logic.
Once I was satisfied I stop capturing screens.

So you can either beleive this or not.




12
19
7
28
15
12
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
3
0
0
2
16
2
0
19
20
35
9

It was a file of 50 number's. When I had 6 systems fail on that file.

That's what I found.
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: petespin on Oct 16, 02:07 PM 2015
so what u wanted to tell me that session like that is fair? u probably live in a plastic world
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Azim on Oct 16, 02:17 PM 2015
Quote from: petespin on Oct 16, 02:07 PM 2015
so what u wanted to tell me that session like that is fair? u probably live in a plastic world


Which part did you not understand..  I wasn't playing.  Just capturing number's.

So why would they do this to the software when I wasn't winning?
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: petespin on Oct 16, 02:18 PM 2015
when u say that runs 24 h with no place bets , u have to clarify if it does in real money mode or not ,thats important buddy :smile:
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Azim on Oct 16, 02:23 PM 2015
Quote from: petespin on Oct 16, 02:18 PM 2015
when u say that runs 24 h with no place bets , u have to clarify if it does in real money mode or not ,thats important buddy :smile:

I don't waste time running a number capture in fun mode.

It was real money table.

Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: petespin on Oct 16, 02:26 PM 2015
yes but it matters if u bet or not ,isnt so?
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Azim on Oct 16, 02:30 PM 2015
Quote from: petespin on Oct 16, 02:26 PM 2015
yes but it matters if u bet or not ,isnt so?

If what you saying is correct that casino's online cheat. Unless I have misunderstood you, I will stand corrected.

If you are saying the casino's cheat , why would the casino's expose something like that when I am not even playing?
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: petespin on Oct 16, 02:38 PM 2015
look u dont understand , that they dont care about results ,u care, they dont care what will show up on your pc s screen ,and in addition if u think a bit deep it seems like that they want to warn u that any attempt ,or any system that u ll try to use it will fail miserably , thats the truth u want to accept it or not its your problem , and one last thing of course online casinos cheat !!
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Azim on Oct 16, 02:48 PM 2015
Quote from: petespin on Oct 16, 02:38 PM 2015
look u dont understand , that they dont care about results ,u care, they dont care what will show up on your pc s screen ,and in addition if u think a bit deep it seems like that they want to warn u that any attempt ,or any system that u ll try to use it will fail miserably , thats the truth u want to accept it or not its your problem , and one last thing of course online casinos cheat !!

Unlike you..  I don't believe that.

I have told everyone and will stand by my word.

I can give you any bot's I have  and you tell me the casino you want to play at.

It will at the end of the month make you enough money to live a relaxed life.
It will not make you rich.

You need to wake up.

What you see online, we might never see on live wheel. It takes 3 hours to go through 100 live spins. While online 100 spins is 2 minutes.

So wake up my friend.
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: petespin on Oct 16, 02:57 PM 2015
now u speak with an experienced gambler , and i tell u this ,dont expect to have a living from gambling especailly online , if they could dont give u anything back , no return , no cash out , the only way to avoid [at some point atleast ] cheating is to play sports betting in those casinos , they cant control this form , like i do in over under options .
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Turner on Oct 16, 05:01 PM 2015
Why do we Freak out over 14,14,14,14,14 ?

It just goes to show that we humans see patterns all over the place and equate something to it

14 14 14 14 14  has a probability of 1/37^5 which equates to a 0.0000014% chance of happening, or once in 69 Million spins

But so does any 5 numbers in a row !

17, 22,13, 35, 34 or 0,0,12,0,33 or 33,1,16,2,3.

They all have the same 0.0000014% chance of happening.

I mean, look at this marque !!! Have you ever seen anything like this before.??

The answer is NO...

It has a 0.000000000000000000000008105% chance of happening
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: MrJ on Oct 16, 07:06 PM 2015
Quote from: Turner on Oct 16, 05:01 PM 2015
Why do we Freak out over 14,14,14,14,14 ?

It just goes to show that we humans see patterns all over the place and equate something to it

14 14 14 14 14  has a probability of 1/37^5 which equates to a 0.0000014% chance of happening, or once in 69 Million spins

But so does any 5 numbers in a row !

17, 22,13, 35, 34 or 0,0,12,0,33 or 33,1,16,2,3.

They all have the same 0.0000014% chance of happening.

I mean, look at this marque !!! Have you ever seen anything like this before.??

The answer is NO...

It has a 0.000000000000000000000008105% chance of happening

We had MANY threads regarding this at GG and VIP back in the day. Its all in the wording, how you state it. 32 32 32 32 is NOT the same as 32 32 32 32 if its predicted (with proof) PRIOR to it happening. Looking at 32 32 32 32 is not the same, AFTER the fact. Its 38 to the 4th if its called out prior to happening (1:2,085,136). If nothing is predicted, its simply 1/38 per occurrence. I hope that made sense.

Ken

Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: Turner on Oct 17, 04:12 AM 2015
Ken,
Yes...of course you are correct
Each number has 1/37 or 1/38 chance.
Title: Re: Well I never!
Post by: MrJ on Oct 17, 10:58 AM 2015
Its like this......lets say I sit down at the table and I say to my buddy, I think the next four numbers, in order, will be the 17 33 21 5. It turns out I'm right, the chances of me being correct were/are 1:2,085,136.

Ken