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Title: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: blueman on Dec 18, 06:14 AM 2015
Betvoyager RNG -present 21 times black and I played in red (part of the 12,13 I played Parlay and after that there will be changes). When I was in the 22 move back to the black came out red. goodbye my money. Bad luck or? :sad2:
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: MumboJumbo on Dec 18, 07:04 AM 2015
Or rigged ? The question for million $?
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 18, 11:31 AM 2015
I'd say it played as expected to, you see 24 red black in b+m,so why not on rng, like on smartlive see it twice 1 dozen miss for 34 spins and guess what you see it on fobt's rng.
What happens on live wheel happens on rng, just when it happens on rng its cheated you
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: button on Dec 19, 06:20 PM 2015
Out of the 4 sites I used I found Betvoyager the hardest of all the RNG sites I have played at using RV to win on.  I still won, but it was a real struggle.  The other sites I played on were much easier.

Now I give Betvoyager a miss.
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: paulee on Dec 19, 08:15 PM 2015
Only an opinion, but from my experience with Betvoyager I think it is honest.
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: vladir on Dec 20, 10:49 AM 2015
Quote from: button on Dec 19, 06:20 PM 2015
Out of the 4 sites I used I found Betvoyager the hardest of all the RNG sites I have played at using RV to win on.  I still won, but it was a real struggle.  The other sites I played on were much easier.

Now I give Betvoyager a miss.

What is RV?
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: blueman on Jan 03, 10:26 AM 2017
Betvoyager  NZ - TEST 33 games with play money = all won, and today lost my first game for money!!! :question: :question:
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: ati on Jan 03, 11:44 AM 2017
This can happen, it's simply bad luck. The same happened to me years ago on BV when I started playing with real money.
I called them cheaters back then, then I've learned a lot about the game and realized that it was perfectly normal that I lost my money.
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: superman on Jan 03, 11:51 AM 2017
QuoteI still won, but it was a real struggle.  The other sites I played on were much easier.

If other sites are much easier, why try other sites?

QuoteBetvoyager  NZ - TEST 33 games with play money = all won, and today lost my first game for money!!!

I'll bet you didn't play EXACTLY the same way during real money, we never do, basic human trates we cannot control cloud reactions to the current environment, when we accept it and admit it to ourselves only then can really judge a casino to be honest.

The only way you will know if your method is working or not is get one of the guys to program a bot and run thousands of tests, I no longer code bots for roulette but there are others amongst us, or post your method here (if you don't want to share it that's fine) and see what others think.

To blame the casino is not the best way forward.

QuoteOnly an opinion, but from my experience with Betvoyager I think it is honest.

I have to agree, yes they had connection problems and freezing, but I have never NOT got money on the table back from them, it can take days sometimes but they always respond. That's their only bad point the connection issues.

Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: BellagioOwner on Jan 03, 11:55 AM 2017
Quote from: vladir on Dec 20, 10:49 AM 2015What is RV?
I think remote viewing.  There is a big thread about RV and results of it
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: ozon on Jul 27, 03:13 PM 2017
Has anyone counted what the real advantage of the casino on Nozero Betvoyager roulette.
We know that they take 10% of the winnings, but what advantage does this generate for the casino, I'm thinking about percentages at best not taking into account the frequent disconnections, because the disconnections cause the house edge to increase to a huge percentage.
I mean the best variant
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jul 27, 09:59 PM 2017
Quote from: ozon on Jul 27, 03:13 PM 2017
Has anyone counted what the real advantage of the casino on Nozero Betvoyager roulette.
We know that they take 10% of the winnings, but what advantage does this generate for the casino, I'm thinking about percentages at best not taking into account the frequent disconnections, because the disconnections cause the house edge to increase to a huge percentage.
I mean the best variant

Betvoyager is particularly popular here on this forum with members of the cult of Priyanka. As you probably know, they love playing roulette using bet selection methods that depend on fancy math-based theories, like the VDW theorem, pigeon hole principle, etc.

These methods (most of which involve betting on the even chances or the dozens) conveniently ignore the zero in their theoretical analysis, so when it comes to actual playing time, these individuals have two options: either face the music with the 0/00 making their ghoulish appearance or play somewhere where there is no pesky 0/00 to deal with. They obviously choose the latter option and so they are forced to play their fancy methods nearly exclusively at betvoyager (which is one of a handful of places that offer no zero roulette).
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jul 27, 10:02 PM 2017
Ozon,
Going back to your original question, you might find this thread interesting:

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16853.0
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: ozon on Jul 29, 06:21 PM 2017
I noticed they have blackjack, with no edge, equal odds, so to generate profit you only need to use the basic strategy plus my MM, give you an edge.
But what a big cheat after a few hours began to disconnections, which causes a huge overhead house edge.
This is well thought out, it is scam in daylight.
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: Pogo on Aug 02, 09:20 PM 2017
Quote from: ozon on Jul 29, 06:21 PM 2017
I noticed they have blackjack, with no edge, equal odds, so to generate profit you only need to use the basic strategy plus my MM, give you an edge.
But what a big cheat after a few hours began to disconnections, which causes a huge overhead house edge.
This is well thought out, it is scam in daylight.

Does it still disconnect?  I thought they had fixed it. I can not remember the last time I had a disconnect, it has been a very long time. 

Do you use the desktop software?
Title: Re: Betvoyager RNG
Post by: iamsky on Aug 15, 06:20 AM 2017
Your games probably play quite differently to mine (I'm playing 6-max cash, not SNG/tourneys for a start), and my pre-flop strategy is non-standard (I don't do much calling except in the BB), so I have nitty pre-flop stats overall, but some of your numbers are radically different to mine.