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Title: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 07, 01:05 PM 2016
Thought better put this idea into practice, show old RNG in bookies is ok.
1.
Corals needed to cheap spin to get last dozen as dont know when machine was last used, bet 6 d/s and .20pence on zero,waist of .20p as #11 came in,so BR is now £99.80.
Well guess what went just great

2
Ladbrokes needed to cheap spin, but this time didn't cover zero, so #16 came.

As Corals went great. 

£10.80 in under 20 minutes, let you work it out. Remembered to do an RG took a photo only in Lads thou.
Anyway i know it won thats all that matters
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 07, 01:10 PM 2016
Gotta take pics haha

Im with you

You continuously beat RNG in these little shops

Kudos to you

Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: thelaw on Jan 07, 01:34 PM 2016
Is this what method was used here?

"Been testing betting against the last dozen with double dozen, now this is the winning bit,LOL, so keep it to your self, use +1/-1 on the win Parley the winning unit again, then drop a unit,but bet the new unit twice,if win both drop a unit,if lose on the new dropped unit,then +1. Repeat till you win your desired amount."
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 07, 02:07 PM 2016
The Law


                        YES :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 07, 02:09 PM 2016
Heres a break down Running total at the right hand side
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 07, 02:17 PM 2016
Heres the same numbers, but this time  when a profit was showing at spin 21 did not reset to 1 dropped down to 5-5, but even at the end its still +2
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 07, 05:44 PM 2016
Whatever the last dozen was to show bet the other 2

Parlay the wins

Right?

Best use hit and run on this sucker
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: thelaw on Jan 07, 06:01 PM 2016
This is a great idea!

The parlay appears to be an effective tool that is rarely used...........let the casino pay for the risk of higher bets! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 07, 07:08 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 07, 05:44 PM 2016
Whatever the last dozen was to show bet the other 2

Parlay the wins

Right?

Best use hit and run on this sucker
Yes Rich
use the +1/-1. If you lose up1, So you've gone from 1-1 now up 2-2, win rebet the 2-2, if win, drop to 1.

Both visits to the machine got of to a good start. As this was a practice, i didn't know what to stop at.
On test, on Jackpot joy, playing all the spins, all that i've tested make a win, £41, £92,£47, theres more.

The corals and ladbrokes was short for a test, but making 4.80 and 6.00 in under 20 minutes, thats got to include the walk across the square.

Tests using +1/-1 and parley has been never dropping back to 1-1 when the 1st profit comes. But when doing the Corals game in the word doc's,dropping back to 1-1 when in profit produced 4.80, where as,keep going with the high units, the profit was still +2, like going to the end of Jackpot joy sheets,still gets the win.

Lets assume its got to 7-7 win drop to 6-6,win, rebet 6-6 L's, bet 7-7 win, rebet 7-7,win, down to 6-6, win,rebet the 6-6,win, drop to 5-5,win, rebet 5-5, win, drop 4-4,lose, up to 5-5,win,rebet 5-5,win,drop to 4-4,win,rebet 4-4,win drop to 3-3. Get the staking method.

Good luck

Notto
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: shuttle on Jan 08, 04:55 PM 2016
Hi Notto

Do you place any insurance bets on the zero?
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: Tamino on Jan 08, 05:06 PM 2016
Why insurance on  the 0 >  Notto is more experienced than to worry about one pocket which does not mean anything except for amateurs
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 08, 07:18 PM 2016
Tamino was correct, i don't cover Zero
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 11, 03:40 PM 2016
Quote from: shuttle on Jan 08, 04:55 PM 2016
Hi Notto

Do you place any insurance bets on the zero?

Have you tested it. Interested to hear your thoughts
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 11, 04:24 PM 2016
Jackpot Joy 11.1.16
Just played against last dozen using  the +1/-1,parley on double dozen.

When at a new high, or back to the last high, drop back to 1-1. Didn't cover zero.

81 spins +£30.00
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 11, 05:43 PM 2016
+1 loss

-1 on a win

??
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 11, 07:34 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 11, 05:43 PM 2016
+1 loss

-1 on a win

??

Yes +1 on loss, when win if at a new high or as last high, reset to 1-1, if win and still down on last high parley the win, if now at new high reset to 1-1, like in the document, so last doz 3 at spin 10,  d/doz to bet for spin 11 is 1-2, 18 win


                                                                                      spin    #    doz    d/doz      unit-unit       stake     return   
10   32   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   22   24   2                                                  to bet                         
11   18   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   24   27   3
12   27   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   26   30   4  new high
13   25   3   1-2   1   1   2        28   30   2  lose
14   18   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   32   36   4  win  now same as high 2 spins back so chip down
15   33   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   34   39   5
16   22   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   36   42   6
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 12, 08:12 AM 2016
 Your thoughts please

Start using £1-1, what is the win total to stop, jump, start another session.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 12, 09:24 AM 2016
spin   #span   doz   doz-doz to bet   +1/-1 *2   jackpotJoy 12.1.16   stake   return   total  out   total return   Running total
1   25   3                        
2   19   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   2   3   1
3   1   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   4   6   2
4   34   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   6   9   3
5   6   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   8   12   4
6   10   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   10   15   5
7   30   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   12   18   6
8   23   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   14   21   7
9   14   2   1-3   1   1   2      16   21   5    lose   so +1
10   34   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   20   27   7    win back to original high
11   0   0   1-2   1   1   2      22   27   5    back to 1-1  lose
12   16   2   0               22   27   5    nb
13   11   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   26   33   7    +1 win  back to original high
14   34   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   28   36   8     back to 1-1 win
15   22   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   30   39   9
16   30   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   32   42   10
17   21   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   34   45   11
18   29   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   36   48   12
19   9   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   38   51   13
20   7   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   40   54   14   win  new high so when do we stop, like Denzie +10?
21   16   2   1-3   1   1   2      42   54   12   lose
22   33   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   46   60   14   +1 win back to original high
23   22   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   48   63   15
24   21   2   1-3   1   1   2      50   63   13
25   8   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   54   69   15
26   28   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   56   72   16
27   7   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   58   75   17
28   30   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   60   78   18
29   30   3   1-2   1   1   2      62   78   16
30   18   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   66   84   18
31   3   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   68   87   19
32   34   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   70   90   20
33   10   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   72   93   21
34   28   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   74   96   22
35   18   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   76   99   23  New high. Now look at cell 71, you'll see the doz count for the 68 spins
36   17   2   1-3   1   1   2      78   99   21  Now we see why it goes down
37   17   2   1-3   2   2   4      82   99   17
38   24   2   1-3   3   3   6      88   99   11
39   32   3   1-3   4   4   8   12   96   111   15  Win +4 a win br at 15,now we parley 4, win
40   9   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   104   123   19   +19(should we carry on -1 and parley?
41   32   3   1-3   3   3   6   9   110   132   22   -1, 3-3 win, if was like last high would reset to 1-1,
42   0   0   1-2   3   3   6      116   132   16   3-3 lose. ( need thoughts on this area of bet )
43   19   2   0               116   132   16
44   13   2   1-3   4   4   8      124   132     8    as you see going down
45   19   2   1-3   5   5   10      134   132   -2
46   26   3   1-3   6   6   12   18   146   150   4
47   4   1   1-2   6   6   12   18   158   168   10
48   1   1   1-3   5   5   10   15   168   183   15
49   31   3   1-3   5   5   10   15   178   198   20   The win, parley win, nearly back to the high of +23, thoughts on when to reset to 1-1
50   31   3   1-2   4   4   8      186   198   12   Now we know why from here it goes down, doz 1 sleeps
51   36   3   1-2   5   5   10      196   198     2     
52   34   3   1-2   6   6   12      208   198   -10
53   28   3   1-2   7   7   14      222   198   -24     So when should you/I take the win.
54   18   2   1-2   8   8   16   24   238   222   -16
55   23   2   1-3   8   8   16      254   222   -32
56   14   2   1-3   9   9   18      272   222   -50
57   19   2   1-3   10   10   20      292   222   -70
58   24   2   1-3   11   11   22      314   222   -92
59   18   2   1-3   12   12   24      338   222   -116
60   31   3   1-3   13   13   26   39   364   261   -103
                        364   261   -103
61   0   0   1-2   13   13   26      390   261   -129
62   23   2   0               390   261   -129
63   13   2   1-3   14   14   28      418   261   -157
64   27   3   1-3   15   15   30   45   448   306   -142
65   5   1   1-2   15   15   30   45   478   351   -127
66   15   2   1-3   14   14   28      506   351   -155
67   29   3   1-3   15   15   30   45   536   396   -140
68   24   2   1-2   15   15   30   45   566   441   -125
69                              
70                              
71         D1   14                  
72         D2   27                  
73         D3   24                  
74         Z   3                  
75         Total   68                  
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 12, 02:44 PM 2016
Quote from: thelaw on Jan 07, 01:34 PM 2016
Is this what method was used here?

"Been testing betting against the last dozen with double dozen, now this is the winning bit,LOL, so keep it to your self, use +1/-1 on the win Parley the winning unit again, then drop a unit,but bet the new unit twice,if win both drop a unit,if lose on the new dropped unit,then +1. Repeat till you win your desired amount."

Okay Jackpot Joy 12.1.16 played as above, wins more at beginning, but lose less at the end.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 12, 02:46 PM 2016
save looking at the doc in above reply

spin   #span   doz   doz-doz to bet   +1/-1 *2   jackpotJoy 12.1.16   stake   return   total  out   total return   Running total
1   25   3                        
2   19   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   2   3   1
3   1   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   4   6   2
4   34   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   6   9   3
5   6   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   8   12   4
6   10   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   10   15   5
7   30   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   12   18   6
8   23   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   14   21   7
9   14   2   1-3   1   1   2   0   16   21   5
10   34   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   20   27   7
11   0   0   1-2   2   2   4   0   24   27   3
12   16   2   0               24   27   3
13   11   1   1-3   3   3   6   9   30   36   6
14   34   3   1-3   3   3   6   9   36   45   9
15   22   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   40   51   11
16   30   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   44   57   13
17   21   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   46   60   14
18   29   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   48   63   15
19   9   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   50   66   16
20   7   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   52   69   17
21   16   2   1-3   1   1   2      54   69   15
22   33   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   58   75   17
23   22   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   62   81   19
24   21   2   1-3   1   1   2      64   81   17
25   8   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   68   87   19
26   28   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   72   93   21
27   7   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   74   96   22
28   30   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   76   99   23
29   30   3   1-2   1   1   2      78   99   21
30   18   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   82   105   23
31   3   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   86   111   25
32   34   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   88   114   26
33   10   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   90   117   27
34   28   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   92   120   28
35   18   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   94   123   29
36   17   2   1-3   1   1   2      96   123   27
37   17   2   1-3   2   2   4      100   123   23
38   24   2   1-3   3   3   6      106   123   17
39   32   3   1-3   4   4   8   12   114   135   21
40   9   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   122   147   25
41   32   3   1-3   3   3   6   9   128   156   28
42   0   0   1-2   3   3   6      134   156   22
43   19   2   0               134   156   22
44   13   2   1-3   4   4   8      142   156   14
45   19   2   1-3   5   5   10      152   156   4
46   26   3   1-3   6   6   12   18   164   174   10
47   4   1   1-2   6   6   12   18   176   192   16
48   1   1   1-3   5   5   10   15   186   207   21
49   31   3   1-3   5   5   10   15   196   222   26
50   31   3   1-2   4   4   8      204   222   18
51   36   3   1-2   5   5   10      214   222   8
52   34   3   1-2   6   6   12      226   222   -4
53   28   3   1-2   7   7   14      240   222   -18
54   18   2   1-2   8   8   16   24   256   246   -10
55   23   2   1-3   8   8   16      272   246   -26
56   14   2   1-3   9   9   18      290   246   -44
57   19   2   1-3   10   10   20      310   246   -64
58   24   2   1-3   11   11   22      332   246   -86
59   18   2   1-3   12   12   24      356   246   -110
60   31   3   1-3   13   13   26   39   382   285   -97
                        382   285   -97
61   0   0   1-2   13   13   26      408   285   -123
62   23   2   0               408   285   -123
63   13   2   1-3   14   14   28      436   285   -151
64   27   3   1-3   15   15   30   45   466   330   -136
65   5   1   1-2   15   15   30   45   496   375   -121
66   15   2   1-3   14   14   28      524   375   -149
67   29   3   1-3   15   15   30   45   554   420   -134
68   24   2   1-2   15   15   30   45   584   465   -119
69                              
70                              
71         D1   14                  
72         D2   27                  
73         D3   24                  
74         Z   3                  
75         Total   68                  
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 12, 03:17 PM 2016
I remember this from Psimoes
Hi notto. For testing, I think the tracking should start at different points in time as well, to make sure that wasn't just a lucky run. Like, what would happen if you arrived one spin "too late" at the table?

So on Jackpot Joy 12.1.16 today we've seen  playing slightly different from the original way,it makes money straight away, loseses at the end.
Play the original way makes more money at start and less at the end.

Like Psimoes said,look at it in a different start, so lets start at spin 49 to 68,where the loseing starts,  then pick up from spin 1,as we know it started winning straight away before.

When or how much winning to stop ?

spin   #span   doz   doz-doz to bet   +1/-1 *2   jackpotJoy 12.1.16   stake   return   total  out   total return   Running total
1   31   3                        
2   31   3   1-2   1   1   2   0   2   0   -2
3   36   3   1-2   2   2   4   0   6   0   -6
4   34   3   1-2   3   3   6   0   12   0   -12
5   28   3   1-2   4   4   8   0   20   0   -20
6   18   2   1-2   5   5   10   15   30   15   -15
7   23   2   1-3   5   5   10      40   15   -25
8   14   2   1-3   6   6   12      52   15   -37
9   19   2   1-3   7   7   14      66   15   -51
10   24   2   1-3   8   8   16      82   15   -67
11   18   2   1-3   9   9   18      100   15   -85
12   31   3   1-3   10   10   20   30   120   45   -75
13   0   0   1-2   10   10   20      140   45   -95
14   23   2                  140   45   -95
15   13   2   1-3   11   11   22      162   45   -117
16   27   3   1-3   12   12   24   36   186   81   -105
17   5   1   1-2   12   12   24   36   210   117   -93
18   15   2   2-3   11   11   22   33   232   150   -82
19   29   3   1-3   11   11   22   33   254   183   -71
20   24   2   1-2   10   10   20   30   274   213   -61
21   25   3   1-3   10   10   20   30   294   243   -51
22   19   2   1-2   9   9   18   27   312   270   -42
23   1   1   1-3   9   9   18   27   330   297   -33
24   34   3   2-3   8   8   16   24   346   321   -25
25   6   1   1-2   8   8   16   24   362   345   -17
26   10   1   2-3   7   7   14      376   345   -31
27   30   3   2-3   8   8   16   24   392   369   -23
28   23   2   1-2   8   8   16   24   408   393   -15
29   14   2   1-3   7   7   14      422   393   -29
30   34   3   1-3   8   8   16   24   438   417   -21
31   0   0   1-2   8   8   16      454   417   -37
32   16   2                  454   417   -37
33   11   1   1-3   9   9   18   27   472   444   -28
34   34   3   2-3   9   9   18   27   490   471   -19
35   22   2   1-2   8   8   16   24   506   495   -11
36   30   3   1-3   8   8   16   24   522   519   -3
37   21   2   1-2   7   7   14   21   536   540   4
38   29   3   1-3   7   7   14   21   550   561   11
39   9   1   1-2   6   6   12   18   562   579   17
40   7   1   2-3   6   6   12      574   579   5
41   16   2   2-3   7   7   14   21   588   600   12
42   33   3   1-3   7   7   14   21   602   621   19
43   22   2   1-2   6   6   12   18   614   639   25
44   21   2   1-3   6   6   12      626   639   13
45   8   1   1-3   7   7   14   21   640   660   20
46   28   3   2-3   7   7   14   21   654   681   27
47   7   1   1-2   6   6   12   18   666   699   33
48   30   3   2-3   6   6   12   18   678   717   39
49   30   3   1-2   5   5   10      688   717   29
50   18   2   1-2   6   6   12   18   700   735   35
51   3   1   1-3   6   6   12   18   712   753   41
52   34   3   2-3   5   5   10   15   722   768   46
53   10   1   1-2   5   5   10   15   732   783   51
54   28   3   2-3   4   4   8   12   740   795   55
55   18   2   1-2   4   4   8   12   748   807   59
56   17   2   1-3   3   3   6      754   807   53
57   17   2   1-3   4   4   8      762   807   45
58   24   2   1-3   5   5   10      772   807   35
59   32   3   1-3   6   6   12   18   784   825   41
60   9   1   1-2   6   6   12   18   796   843   47
                        796   843   47
61   32   3   2-3   5   5   10   15   806   858   52
62   0   0   1-2   5   5   10      816   858   42
63   19   2                  816   858   42
64   13   2   1-3   6   6   12      828   858   30
65   19   2   1-3   7   7   14      842   858   16
66   26   3   1-3   8   8   16   24   858   882   24
67   4   1   1-2   8   8   16   24   874   906   32
68   1   1   2-3   7   7   14      888   906   18

Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 13, 07:36 AM 2016
spin   #span   doz   doz-doz to bet   +1/-1 *2   jackpotJoy 13.1.16   stake   return   total  out   total return   Running total
1   16   2                        
2   35   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   2   3   1
3   8   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   4   6   2
4   13   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   6   9   3
5   18   2   1-3   1   1   2      8   9   1
6   2   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   12   15   3
7   10   1   2-3   2   2   4      16   15   -1
8   34   3   2-3   3   3   6   9   22   24   2
9   0   0   1-2   3   3   6      28   24   -4
10   10   1                  28   24   -4
11   14   2   2-3   4   4   8   12   36   36   0
12   9   1   1-3   4   4   8   12   44   48   4
13   19   2   2-3   3   3   6   9   50   57   7
14   20   2   1-3   3   3   6      56   57   1
15   33   3   1-3   4   4   8   12   64   69   5
16   1   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   72   81   9
17   13   2   2-3   3   3   6   9   78   90   12
18   20   2   1-3   3   3   6      84   90   6
19   26   3   1-3   4   4   8   12   92   102   10
20   8   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   100   114   14
21   25   3   2-3   3   3   6   9   106   123   17
22   9   1   1-2   3   3   6   9   112   132   20     +20 is it enough to restart, you can now see whats coming
23   10   1   2-3                     
24   4   1   2-3                     
25   9   1   2-3                     
26   12   1   2-3                     
27   5   1   2-3                     
28   36   3   2-3                     
29   32   3   1-2                     
30   1   1   1-2                     
31   9   1   2-3                     
32   21   2   2-3                     
33   36   3   1-3                     
34   13   2   1-2                     
35   24   2   1-3                     
36   34   3   1-3                     
37   3   1   1-2                     
38   26   3   2-3                     
39   25   3   1-2                     
40   14   2   1-2                     
41   35   3   1-3                     
42   33   3   1-2                     
43   23   2   1-2                     
44   17   2   1-3                     
45   32   3   1-3                     
46   16   2   1-2                     
47   36   3   1-3                     
48   34   3   1-2                     
49   7   1   1-2                     
50   36   3   2-3                     
51   1   1   1-2                     
52   31   3   2-3                     
53   3   1   1-2                     
54   30   3   2-3                     
55   3   1   1-2                     
56   29   3   2-3                     
57   3   1   1-2                     
58   21   2   2-3                     
59   8   1   1-3                     
60   28   3   2-3                     
                              
61   12   1   1-2                     
62   34   3   2-3                     
63   20   2   1-2                     
64   3   1   1-3                     
65   35   3   2-3                     
66   34   3   1-2                     
67   35   3   1-2                     
68   2   1   1-2                     
69   21   2   2-3                     
70   25   3   1-3                     
71   6   1   1-2                     
72   27   3   2-3                     
73   16   2   1-2                     
74   3   1   1-3                     
75   9   1   2-3                     
76   1   1   2-3                     
77   26   3   2-3                     
78   11   1   1-2                     
79                              
80      D1   30                     
81      D2   19                     
82      D3   28                     
83      Z   1                     
84         78                     
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 13, 07:44 AM 2016
spin   #span   doz   doz-doz to bet   +1/-1 *2   jackpotJoy 13.1.16   stake   return   total  out   total return   Running total
1   16   2                        
2   35   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   2   3   1
3   8   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   4   6   2
4   13   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   6   9   3
5   18   2   1-3   1   1   2      8   9   1
6   2   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   12   15   3
7   10   1   2-3   2   2   4      16   15   -1
8   34   3   2-3   3   3   6   9   22   24   2
9   0   0   1-2   3   3   6      28   24   -4
10   10   1                  28   24   -4
11   14   2   2-3   4   4   8   12   36   36   0
12   9   1   1-3   4   4   8   12   44   48   4
13   19   2   2-3   3   3   6   9   50   57   7
14   20   2   1-3   3   3   6      56   57   1
15   33   3   1-3   4   4   8   12   64   69   5
16   1   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   72   81   9
17   13   2   2-3   3   3   6   9   78   90   12
18   20   2   1-3   3   3   6      84   90   6
19   26   3   1-3   4   4   8   12   92   102   10
20   8   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   100   114   14
21   25   3   2-3   3   3   6   9   106   123   17
22   9   1   1-2   3   3   6   9   112   132   20     +20 is it enough to restart, you can now see whats coming
23   10   1   2-3   2   2   4      116   132   16
24   4   1   2-3   3   3   6      122   132   10
25   9   1   2-3   4   4   8      130   132   2
26   12   1   2-3   5   5   10      140   132   -8
27   5   1   2-3   6   6   12      152   132   -20
28   36   3   2-3   7   7   14   21   166   153   -13
29   32   3   1-2   7   7   14      180   153   -27
30   1   1   1-2   8   8   16   24   196   177   -19
31   9   1   2-3   8   8   16      212   177   -35
32   21   2   2-3   9   9   18   27   230   204   -26
33   36   3   1-3   9   9   18   27   248   231   -17
34   13   2   1-2   8   8   16   24   264   255   -9
35   24   2   1-3   8   8   16      280   255   -25
36   34   3   1-3   9   9   18   27   298   282   -16
37   3   1   1-2   9   9   18   27   316   309   -7
38   26   3   2-3   8   8   16   24   332   333   1        +1 do you go on
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 13, 07:50 AM 2016
spin   #span   doz   doz-doz to bet   +1/-1 *2   jackpotJoy 13.1.16   stake   return   total  out   total return   Running total
1   16   2                        
2   35   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   2   3   1
3   8   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   4   6   2
4   13   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   6   9   3
5   18   2   1-3   1   1   2      8   9   1
6   2   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   12   15   3
7   10   1   2-3   2   2   4      16   15   -1
8   34   3   2-3   3   3   6   9   22   24   2
9   0   0   1-2   3   3   6      28   24   -4
10   10   1                  28   24   -4
11   14   2   2-3   4   4   8   12   36   36   0
12   9   1   1-3   4   4   8   12   44   48   4
13   19   2   2-3   3   3   6   9   50   57   7
14   20   2   1-3   3   3   6      56   57   1
15   33   3   1-3   4   4   8   12   64   69   5
16   1   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   72   81   9
17   13   2   2-3   3   3   6   9   78   90   12
18   20   2   1-3   3   3   6      84   90   6
19   26   3   1-3   4   4   8   12   92   102   10
20   8   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   100   114   14
21   25   3   2-3   3   3   6   9   106   123   17
22   9   1   1-2   3   3   6   9   112   132   20       +20 is it enough to restart, you can now see whats coming
23   10   1   2-3   2   2   4      116   132   16
24   4   1   2-3   3   3   6      122   132   10
25   9   1   2-3   4   4   8      130   132   2
26   12   1   2-3   5   5   10      140   132   -8
27   5   1   2-3   6   6   12      152   132   -20
28   36   3   2-3   7   7   14   21   166   153   -13
29   32   3   1-2   7   7   14      180   153   -27
30   1   1   1-2   8   8   16   24   196   177   -19
31   9   1   2-3   8   8   16      212   177   -35
32   21   2   2-3   9   9   18   27   230   204   -26
33   36   3   1-3   9   9   18   27   248   231   -17
34   13   2   1-2   8   8   16   24   264   255   -9
35   24   2   1-3   8   8   16      280   255   -25
36   34   3   1-3   9   9   18   27   298   282   -16
37   3   1   1-2   9   9   18   27   316   309   -7
38   26   3   2-3   8   8   16   24   332   333   1       +1 do you go on
39   25   3   1-2   8   8   16      348   333   -15
40   14   2   1-2   9   9   18   27   366   360   -6
41   35   3   1-3   9   9   18   27   384   387   3
42   33   3   1-2   8   8   16      400   387   -13
43   23   2   1-2   9   9   18   27   418   414   -4
44   17   2   1-3   9   9   18      436   414   -22
45   32   3   1-3   10   10   20   30   456   444   -12
46   16   2   1-2   10   10   20   30   476   474   -2
47   36   3   1-3   9   9   18   27   494   501   7
48   34   3   1-2   9   9   18      512   501   -11
49   7   1   1-2   10   10   20   30   532   531   -1
50   36   3   2-3   10   10   20   30   552   561   9
51   1   1   1-2   9   9   18   27   570   588   18
52   31   3   2-3   9   9   18   27   588   615   27     New high  do you stop
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 13, 07:58 AM 2016
spin   #span   doz   doz-doz to bet   +1/-1 *2   jackpotJoy 13.1.16   stake   return   total  out   total return   Running total
1   16   2                        
2   35   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   2   3   1
3   8   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   4   6   2
4   13   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   6   9   3
5   18   2   1-3   1   1   2      8   9   1
6   2   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   12   15   3
7   10   1   2-3   2   2   4      16   15   -1
8   34   3   2-3   3   3   6   9   22   24   2
9   0   0   1-2   3   3   6      28   24   -4
10   10   1                  28   24   -4
11   14   2   2-3   4   4   8   12   36   36   0
12   9   1   1-3   4   4   8   12   44   48   4
13   19   2   2-3   3   3   6   9   50   57   7
14   20   2   1-3   3   3   6      56   57   1
15   33   3   1-3   4   4   8   12   64   69   5
16   1   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   72   81   9
17   13   2   2-3   3   3   6   9   78   90   12
18   20   2   1-3   3   3   6      84   90   6
19   26   3   1-3   4   4   8   12   92   102   10
20   8   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   100   114   14
21   25   3   2-3   3   3   6   9   106   123   17
22   9   1   1-2   3   3   6   9   112   132   20
23   10   1   2-3   2   2   4      116   132   16
24   4   1   2-3   3   3   6      122   132   10
25   9   1   2-3   4   4   8      130   132   2
26   12   1   2-3   5   5   10      140   132   -8
27   5   1   2-3   6   6   12      152   132   -20
28   36   3   2-3   7   7   14   21   166   153   -13
29   32   3   1-2   7   7   14      180   153   -27
30   1   1   1-2   8   8   16   24   196   177   -19
31   9   1   2-3   8   8   16      212   177   -35
32   21   2   2-3   9   9   18   27   230   204   -26
33   36   3   1-3   9   9   18   27   248   231   -17
34   13   2   1-2   8   8   16   24   264   255   -9
35   24   2   1-3   8   8   16      280   255   -25
36   34   3   1-3   9   9   18   27   298   282   -16
37   3   1   1-2   9   9   18   27   316   309   -7
38   26   3   2-3   8   8   16   24   332   333   1
39   25   3   1-2   8   8   16      348   333   -15
40   14   2   1-2   9   9   18   27   366   360   -6
41   35   3   1-3   9   9   18   27   384   387   3
42   33   3   1-2   8   8   16      400   387   -13
43   23   2   1-2   9   9   18   27   418   414   -4
44   17   2   1-3   9   9   18      436   414   -22
45   32   3   1-3   10   10   20   30   456   444   -12
46   16   2   1-2   10   10   20   30   476   474   -2
47   36   3   1-3   9   9   18   27   494   501   7
48   34   3   1-2   9   9   18      512   501   -11
49   7   1   1-2   10   10   20   30   532   531   -1
50   36   3   2-3   10   10   20   30   552   561   9
51   1   1   1-2   9   9   18   27   570   588   18
52   31   3   2-3   9   9   18   27   588   615   27
53   3   1   1-2   8   8   16   24   604   639   35
54   30   3   2-3   8   8   16   24   620   663   43
55   3   1   1-2   7   7   14   21   634   684   50
56   29   3   2-3   7   7   14   21   648   705   57
57   3   1   1-2   6   6   12   18   660   723   63
58   21   2   2-3   6   6   12   18   672   741   69
59   8   1   1-3   5   5   10   15   682   756   74
60   28   3   2-3   5   5   10   15   692   771   79
                        692   771   79
61   12   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   700   783   83
62   34   3   2-3   4   4   8   12   708   795   87
63   20   2   1-2   3   3   6   9   714   804   90
64   3   1   1-3   3   3   6   9   720   813   93
65   35   3   2-3   2   2   4   6   724   819   95
66   34   3   1-2   2   2   4      728   819   91
67   35   3   1-2   3   3   6      734   819   85
68   2   1   1-2   4   4   8   12   742   831   89
69   21   2   2-3   4   4   8   12   750   843   93
70   25   3   1-3   3   3   6   9   756   852   96
71   6   1   1-2   3   3   6   9   762   861   99
72   27   3   2-3   2   2   4   6   766   867   101
73   16   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   770   873   103
74   3   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   772   876   104
75   9   1   2-3   1   1   2      774   876   102
76   1   1   2-3   2   2   4      778   876   98
77   26   3   2-3   3   3   6   9   784   885   101
78   11   1   1-2   3   3   6   9   790   894   104
79                              
80      D1   30                     
81      D2   19                     
82      D3   28                     
83      Z   1                     
84         78                     
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: NextYear on Jan 13, 09:40 AM 2016
Hey, what a drama!
Just kidding, thanks.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 13, 09:55 AM 2016
will i get an oscar
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: NextYear on Jan 13, 10:21 AM 2016
You surely are winning - call it Oscar or Golden Globe.
Just Keep(on)GoodWork...
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 15, 12:37 PM 2016
This idea come from grassroots.
I like to bet as soon as, if KTF after 10 spins. So with grassroots i thought how could we bet the double dozens every spin, as in  grassroots its in and out.

We've seen its possible to bet straight away and win, ? is, if you have to use £/$ 5.00 units, win 1 unit, move, hope win another unit,move again. Or stay put and win say 4 units, then move on.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 04, 08:38 AM 2016
I dont know when or if betting double dozen with +1 then -1 then parley,parley till back to 1-1 posted before,perhaps one of the vets could let us newbies know.

Anyway tuddilue todays #'s if your interested from Jackpot 247.com, with different ways. Stop at +10 like you suggested.

spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 23 2 jackpot 247.com 4.2.16
2 16 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 2 0 -2
3 27 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 6 6 0
4 26 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 8 6 -2
5 5 1 1-2 2-2 4 6 12 12 0
6 31 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 14 15 1
7 28 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 16 15 -1
8 8 1 1-2 2-2 4 6 20 21 1
9 36 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 22 24 2
10 26 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 24 24 0
11 20 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 28 30 2
12 27 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 30 33 3
13 16 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 32 36 4
14 4 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 34 39 5
15 17 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 36 42 6
16 7 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 38 45 7
17 22 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 40 48 8
18 22 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 42 48 6
19 34 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 46 54 8
20 34 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 48 54 6
21 11 1 1-2 2-2 4 6 52 60 8
22 25 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 54 63 9
23 14 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 56 66 10
24 10 1 1-3
25 24 2 2-3
26 13 2 1-3
27 19 2 1-3
28 31 3 1-3
29 17 2 1-2
30 8 1 1-3
31 2 1 2-3
32 34 3 2-3
33 1 1 1-2
34 3 1 2-3
35 20 2 2-3
36 20 2 1-3
37 13 2 1-3
38 35 3 1-3
39 31 3 1-2
40 16 2 1-2
41 36 3 1-3
42 35 3
43 30 3
44 18 2
45 6 1
46 11 1
47 3 1
48 13 2
49 8 1
50 14 2
51 35 3
52 1 1
53 33 3
54 12 1
55 4 1
56 16 2
57 12 1
58 26 3
59 24 2
60 34 3

61 0 0
62 22 2
63 4 1
64 12 1
65 36 3
66 21 2
67 4 1
68 32 3
69 33 3
70 35 3
71 18 2
72 30 3
73 6 1
74 8 1
75 15 2
76 10 1
77 9 1
78 30 3
79 26 3
80 4 1
81 27 3
82 34 3


spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 23 2 jackpot 247.com 4.2.16
2 16 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 2 0 -2
3 27 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 6 6 0
4 26 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 10 6 -4
5 5 1 1-2 3-3 6 9 16 15 -1
6 31 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 22 24 2
7 28 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 24 24 0
8 8 1 1-2 2-2 4 6 28 30 2
9 36 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 30 33 3
10 26 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 32 33 1
11 20 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 36 39 3
12 27 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 38 42 4
13 16 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 40 45 5
14 4 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 42 48 6
15 17 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 44 51 7
16 7 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 46 54 8
17 22 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 48 57 9
18 22 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 50 57 7
19 34 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 54 63 9
20 34 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 56 63 7
21 11 1 1-2 2-2 4 6 60 69 9
22 25 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 62 72 10
23 14 2 1-2
24 10 1 1-3
25 24 2 2-3
26 13 2 1-3
27 19 2 1-3
28 31 3 1-3
29 17 2 1-2
30 8 1 1-3
31 2 1 2-3
32 34 3 2-3
33 1 1 1-2
34 3 1 2-3
35 20 2 2-3
36 20 2 1-3
37 13 2 1-3
38 35 3 1-3
39 31 3 1-2
40 16 2 1-2


spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 23 2 jackpot 247.com 4.2.16
2 16 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 2 0 -2
3 27 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 6 6 0
4 26 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 10 6 -4
5 5 1 1-2 3-3 6 9 16 15 -1
6 31 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 22 24 2 new high
7 28 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 26 24 -2
8 8 1 1-2 3-3 6 9 32 33 1
9 36 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 38 42 4 new high
10 26 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 42 42 0
11 20 2 1-2 3-3 6 9 48 51 3
12 27 3 1-3 3-3 6 9 54 60 6 new high
13 16 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 58 66 8 new high
14 4 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 62 72 10 stop
15 17 2 2-3
16 7 1 1-3
17 22 2 2-3
18 22 2 1-3
19 34 3 1-3
20 34 3 1-2
21 11 1 1-2
22 25 3 2-3
23 14 2 1-2
24 10 1 1-3
25 24 2 2-3
26 13 2 1-3
27 19 2 1-3
28 31 3 1-3
29 17 2 1-2
30 8 1 1-3
31 2 1 2-3
32 34 3 2-3
33 1 1 1-2
34 3 1 2-3
35 20 2 2-3
36 20 2 1-3
37 13 2 1-3
38 35 3 1-3
39 31 3 1-2
40 16 2 1-2
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: Celticknits on Feb 05, 07:14 PM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 04, 08:38 AM 2016
I dont know when or if betting double dozen with +1 then -1 then parley,parley till back to 1-1 posted before,perhaps one of the vets could let us newbies know.




-Notto

Just got back from the local B&M.
Played $5 base bets with $150 BR  +1/-1 and parlay once on a win after a loss.

Made $75 profit in 1/2 hour.

Right now I am only playing this method and KTF.
I played this today because it does not take much thought or tracking.

The only thing that I do not quite understand is what to bet when 0 or 00 hits.
I do not cover these.

Anyways I am only playing this system with casino money----another reason for uping the base to $5

Thank you for the great work!!!

-Celticknits
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 06, 04:49 AM 2016
Hi Celticknits
Yes the zeros, my thought is no bet,just sit the next spin out or you could rebet the last double dozen.

I'm putting up yesterdays Jackpot247.com #'s
i use +1/-1, i keep on parley till it gets back to 1-1, it can be a rollercoaster, But i'll use these words keep the faith,it makes a profit at spins 18,19  and ends in a profit.
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 34 3 jackpot 247.com 5.2.16
2 18 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 19 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 4 3 -1
4 14 2 1-3 2-2 4 0 8 3 -5
5 20 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 14 3 -11
6 22 2 1-3 4-4 8 0 22 3 -19
7 7 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 32 18 -14
8 5 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 42 18 -24
9 30 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 54 36 -18
10 10 1 1-2 6-6 12 18 66 54 -12
11 10 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 76 54 -22
12 35 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 88 72 -16
13 19 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 100 90 -10
14 11 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 110 105 -5
15 2 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 120 105 -15
16 18 2 2-3 6-6 12 18 132 123 -9
17 27 3 1-3 6-6 12 18 144 141 -3
18 1 1 1-2 5-5 10 15 154 156 2
19 34 3 2-3 5-5 10 15 164 171 7
20 28 3 1-2 4-4 8 0 172 171 -1
21 36 3 1-2 5-5 10 0 182 171 -11
22 26 3 1-2 6-6 12 0 194 171 -23
23 25 3 1-2 7-7 14 0 208 171 -37
24 15 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 224 195 -29
25 2 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 240 219 -21
26 26 3 2-3 7-7 14 21 254 240 -14
27 31 3 1-2 7-7 14 0 268 240 -28
28 29 3 1-2 8-8 16 0 284 240 -44
29 19 2 1-2 9-9 18 27 302 267 -35
30 2 1 1-3 9-9 18 28 320 295 -25
31 13 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 336 319 -17
32 11 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 352 343 -9
33 23 2 2-3 7-7 14 21 366 364 -2
34 19 2 1-3 6-6 12 0 378 364 -14
35 22 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 392 364 -28
36 31 3 1-3 8-8 16 24 408 388 -20
37 14 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 424 412 -12
38 9 1 1-3 7-7 14 21 438 433 -5
39 10 1 2-3 7-7 14 0 452 433 -19
40 8 1 2-3 8-8 16 0 468 433 -35
41 18 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 486 460 -26
42 25 3 1-3 9-9 18 27 504 487 -17
43 23 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 520 511 -9
44 0 0 1-3 8-8 16 0 536 511 -25
45 8 1 0 0 536 511 -25
46 36 3 2-3 9-9 18 27 554 538 -16
47 4 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 572 565 -7
48 15 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 588 589 1
49 2 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 604 613 9
50 9 1 2-3 7-7 14 0 618 613 -5
51 25 3 2-3 8-8 16 24 634 637 3
52 16 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 650 661 11
53 18 2 1-3
54 36 3 1-3


This is different, when it gets into profit i went back to 1-1. I'll say it seems safer but the profit remains low, untill the end, which is still a good profit.
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 34 3 jackpot 247.com 5.2.16
2 18 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 19 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 4 3 -1
4 14 2 1-3 2-2 4 0 8 3 -5
5 20 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 14 3 -11
6 22 2 1-3 4-4 8 0 22 3 -19
7 7 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 32 18 -14
8 5 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 42 18 -24
9 30 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 54 36 -18
10 10 1 1-2 6-6 12 18 66 54 -12
11 10 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 76 54 -22
12 35 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 88 72 -16
13 19 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 100 90 -10
14 11 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 110 105 -5
15 2 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 120 105 -15
16 18 2 2-3 6-6 12 18 132 123 -9
17 27 3 1-3 6-6 12 18 144 141 -3
18 1 1 1-2 5-5 10 15 154 156 2
19 34 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 156 159 3
20 28 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 158 159 1
21 36 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 162 159 -3
22 26 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 168 159 -9
23 25 3 1-2 4-4 8 0 176 159 -17
24 15 2 1-2 5-5 10 15 186 174 -12
25 2 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 196 189 -7
26 26 3 2-3 4-4 8 12 204 201 -3
27 31 3 1-2 4-4 8 0 212 201 -11
28 29 3 1-2 5-5 10 0 222 201 -21
29 19 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 234 219 -15
30 2 1 1-3 6-6 12 18 246 237 -9
31 13 2 2-3 5-5 10 15 256 252 -4
32 11 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 266 267 1
33 23 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 268 270 2
34 19 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 270 270 0
35 22 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 272 270 -2
36 31 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 276 276 0
37 14 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 278 279 1
38 9 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 280 282 2
39 10 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 282 282 0
40 8 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 284 282 -2
41 18 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 288 288 0
42 25 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 290 291 1
43 23 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 292 294 2
44 0 0 1-3 1-1 2 0 294 294 0
45 8 1 0 0 294 294 0
46 36 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 296 297 1
47 4 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 298 300 2
48 15 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 300 303 3
49 2 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 302 306 4
50 9 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 304 306 2
51 25 3 2-3 2-2 4 6 308 312 4
52 16 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 310 315 5
53 18 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 312 315 3
54 36 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 316 321 5
55
56
57
58
59
60

61
62


Compare profits at spin 52, 11  or 5, look at the out total 661 against 315,  a smaller out lay but a profit
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 09, 07:30 PM 2016
So in rng spins UK bookies
You know i bet till 20th spin -£56. Well KTF got me back to plus.
If stayed betting the  Dont Knock it till you try it method, ends in plus

spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 27 3
2 19 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 20 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 4 3 -1
4 15 2 1-3 2-2 4 0 8 3 -5
5 18 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 14 3 -11
6 15 2 1-3 4-4 8 0 22 3 -19
7 4 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 32 18 -14
8 0 0 2-3 5-5 10 0 42 18 -24
9 17 2 0 0 0 42 18 -24
10 23 2 1-3 6-6 12 0 54 18 -36
11 20 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 68 18 -50
12 21 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 84 18 -66
13 5 1 1-3 9-9 18 27 102 45 -57
14 19 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 120 72 -48
15 22 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 136 72 -64
16 12 1 1-3 9-9 18 27 154 99 -55
17 24 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 172 126 -46
18 21 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 188 126 -62
19 27 3 1-3 9-9 18 27 206 153 -53
20 12 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 224 180 -44 stopped
21 2 1 2-3 8-8 16 0 240 180 -60 started KTF
22 34 3 2-3 9-9 18 27 258 207 -51
23 7 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 276 234 -42
24 21 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 292 258 -34
25 36 3 1-3 8-8 16 24 308 282 -26
26 14 2 1-2 7-7 14 21 322 303 -19
27 13 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 336 303 -33
28 5 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 352 327 -25
29 0 0 2-3 8-8 16 0 368 327 -41
30 32 3 0 0 0 368 327 -41
31 12 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 386 354 -32
32 29 3 2-3 9-9 18 27 404 381 -23
33 9 1 1-2 8-8 16 24 420 405 -15
34 30 3 2-3 8-8 16 24 436 429 -7
35 20 2 1-2 7-7 14 21 450 450 0
36 5 1 1-3 7-7 14 21 464 471 7
37 30 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 476 489 13
38 16 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 488 507 19
39 10 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 498 522 24
40 27 3 2-3 5-5 10 15 508 537 29
41
42
43
44
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 14, 12:10 PM 2016
little confused to how some play this

but as i understand it

bet against the previous dozen, if last spin was doz 2 next spin bet dozens 1 and 3

+1 on a loss -1 on a win
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: Celticknits on Feb 14, 12:57 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 14, 12:10 PM 2016
little confused to how some play this

but as i understand it

bet against the previous dozen, if last spin was doz 2 next spin bet dozens 1 and 3

+1 on a loss -1 on a win

RG

It is being played against the last dowen, with the last dozen, against the last 2, with the last two and all the combinations therein.
I had great luck betting with the last dozen and against the dozen 3 back.

Reminds me of grassroots.

Regarding the progression +1/-1 and parlay the first win after a loss.
If you reach new high or get to the  old high drop back to 1-1.

Hope this helps.

-Celtic
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 14, 01:10 PM 2016
Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 14, 12:57 PM 2016
RG

It is being played against the last dowen, with the last dozen, against the last 2, with the last two and all the combinations therein.
I had great luck betting with the last dozen and against the dozen 3 back.

Reminds me of grassroots.

Regarding the progression +1/-1 and parlay the first win after a loss.
If you reach new high or get to the  old high drop back to 1-1.

Hope this helps.

-Celtic

so your playing the dozen last hit and the dozen furthest back? in which case at the same time you are betting on a streak AND for the sleeper to wake
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: The Force on Feb 14, 01:19 PM 2016
There's always something new around here. I'm actually going to try this one though, it sounds very doable and very profitable.

Love the chart too.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: Wally Gator on Feb 14, 10:13 PM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 09, 07:30 PM 2016
You know i bet till 20th spin

Notto, I thought you begin KTF after 10 spins, not 20???  Great job on this one, it's a keeper for the progression.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: Celticknits on Feb 14, 11:47 PM 2016
Quote from: Wally Gator on Feb 14, 10:13 PM 2016
Notto, I thought you begin KTF after 10 spins, not 20???  Great job on this one, it's a keeper for the progression.


He could use the last 10 of 20 spins for KTF but I think he is looking at how Dont Knock It is going and considering the trot on the 20 spins so far to enter into KTF.

-Celtic
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 15, 04:21 AM 2016
Sorry, the (You know i bet till 20th spin) was playing the double dozens, at the 20th spin i started to play KTF,which i was watching and had repeated,so i was playing KTF for the rest of the spins. I thought i'd show even thou i was down if i had carried on the win came.
Celticknits nearly right i was playing dont knock it and down at the 20th spin,this was when i see KTF was could to bet for a non hit.
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 09, 07:30 PM 2016
So in rng spins UK bookies
You know i bet till 20th spin -£56. Well KTF got me back to plus.
If stayed betting the  Dont Knock it till you try it method, ends in plus

spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 27 3
2 19 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 20 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 4 3 -1
4 15 2 1-3 2-2 4 0 8 3 -5
5 18 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 14 3 -11
6 15 2 1-3 4-4 8 0 22 3 -19
7 4 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 32 18 -14
8 0 0 2-3 5-5 10 0 42 18 -24
9 17 2 0 0 0 42 18 -24
10 23 2 1-3 6-6 12 0 54 18 -36
11 20 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 68 18 -50
12 21 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 84 18 -66
13 5 1 1-3 9-9 18 27 102 45 -57
14 19 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 120 72 -48
15 22 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 136 72 -64
16 12 1 1-3 9-9 18 27 154 99 -55
17 24 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 172 126 -46
18 21 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 188 126 -62
19 27 3 1-3 9-9 18 27 206 153 -53
20 12 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 224 180 -44 stopped
21 2 1 2-3 8-8 16 0 240 180 -60 started KTF
22 34 3 2-3 9-9 18 27 258 207 -51
23 7 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 276 234 -42
24 21 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 292 258 -34
25 36 3 1-3 8-8 16 24 308 282 -26
26 14 2 1-2 7-7 14 21 322 303 -19
27 13 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 336 303 -33
28 5 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 352 327 -25
29 0 0 2-3 8-8 16 0 368 327 -41
30 32 3 0 0 0 368 327 -41
31 12 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 386 354 -32
32 29 3 2-3 9-9 18 27 404 381 -23
33 9 1 1-2 8-8 16 24 420 405 -15
34 30 3 2-3 8-8 16 24 436 429 -7
35 20 2 1-2 7-7 14 21 450 450 0
36 5 1 1-3 7-7 14 21 464 471 7
37 30 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 476 489 13
38 16 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 488 507 19
39 10 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 498 522 24
40 27 3 2-3 5-5 10 15 508 537 29
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Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: tuddilue on Feb 15, 10:03 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 07, 05:44 PM 2016
Whatever the last dozen was to show bet the other 2

Parlay the wins

Right?

Best use hit and run on this sucker
Is it like this you are playing this system?

If that is the case what do you do when streaks come around? I mean the dozen is not always choppy.

Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: denzie on Feb 29, 09:05 AM 2016
Got it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 29, 09:19 AM 2016
Plus 1 minus 1 on double dozen against last dozen hit can get scarey if a dozen streaks.....
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: denzie on Feb 29, 10:23 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 29, 09:19 AM 2016
Plus 1 minus 1 on double dozen against last dozen hit can get scarey if a dozen streaks.....

Yeah that's for sure. I like my parlay bit better. But for sure it will bust some day.
REALLY SURE .
1-1, 1-1, 2-2, 3-3, 4-4, 5-5, 8-8, 12-12 , 18-18 , ....
Don't get scared. ..it's casino money. Reset on a new high

And on a repeat we wait till it stops. This will help a lot
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 29, 10:25 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 29, 09:19 AM 2016
Plus 1 minus 1 on double dozen against last dozen hit can get scarey if a dozen streaks.....

its the parley part that makes it interesting, getting back to starting bank roll or back to the last high in profit.
You can see it can handle its self, but you need to again, make decisions.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 16, 08:18 AM 2016
On todays Jackpot247 16.3.16 #'s
Could see the dozen repeated at the start, but the good old +1/-1 with parley till back to 1-1 did the job.
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 21 2
2 22 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 2 0 -2
3 26 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 6 6 0
4 25 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 10 6 -4
5 27 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 16 6 -10
6 17 2 1-2 4-4 8 12 24 18 -6
7 27 3 1-3 4-4 8 12 32 30 -2
8 15 2 1-2 3-3 6 9 38 39 1
9 3 1 1-3 3-3 6 9 44 48 4
10 33 3 2-3 2-2 4 6 48 54 6
11 13 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 52 60 8
12 36 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 54 63 9
13 21 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 56 66 10
14 19 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 58 66 8
15 6 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 62 72 10
16 18 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 66 78 12
17 21 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 68 78 10
18 30 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 72 84 12
19 19 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 76 90 14
20 4 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 78 93 15
21 4 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 80 93 13
22 7 1 2-3 2-2 4 0 84 93 9
23 36 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 90 102 12
24 23 2 1-2 3-3 6 9 96 111 15
25 33 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 100 117 17
26 34 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 104 117 13
27 31 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 110 117 7
28 14 2 1-2 4-4 8 12 118 129 11
29 1 1 1-3 4-4 8 12 126 141 15
30 3 1 2-3 3-3 6 0 132 141 9
31 22 2 2-3 4-4 8 12 140 153 13
32 10 1 1-3 4-4 8 12 148 165 17
33 17 2 2-3 3-3 6 9 154 174 20
34 10 1 1-3 3-3 6 9 160 183 23
35 24 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 164 189 25
36 27 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 168 195 27
37 18 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 170 198 28
38 16 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 172 198 26
39 36 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 176 204 28
40 8 1 1-2 2-2 4 6 180 210 30
41 6 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 182 210 28
42 15 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 186 216 30
43 21 2 1-3 2-2 4 0 190 216 26
44 6 1 1-3 3-3 6 9 196 225 29
45 28 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 202 234 32
46 14 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 206 240 34
47 31 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 210 246 36
48 25 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 212 246 34
49 17 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 216 252 36
50 34 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 220 258 38
51 5 1 1-2 1-1 2 6 222 264 42
52 20 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 224 267 43
53 22 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 226 267 41
54 9 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 230 273 43
55 15 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 234 279 45
56 12 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 236 282 46
57 2 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 238 282 44
58 9 1 2-3 2-2 4 0 242 282 40
59 30 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 248 291 43
60 22 2 1-2 3-3 6 9 254 300 46
                         254 300 46
61 11 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 258 306 48
62 17 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 262 312 50
63 10 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 264 315 51
64 31 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 266 318 52
65 22 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 268 321 53
66 17 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 270 321 51
67 30 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 274 327 53
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 21, 06:04 PM 2016
Lads san 21.3.16
KTF won so how does  Dont Knock it till you try it
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 32 3
2 34 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 2 0 -2
3 5 1 1-2 2-2 4 6 6 6 0
4 27 3 2-3 2-2 4 6 10 12 2
5 7 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 12 15 3
6 27 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 14 18 4
7 8 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 16 21 5
8 18 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 18 24 6
9 32 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 20 27 7
10 30 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 22 27 5
11 35 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 26 27 1
12 17 2 1-2 3-3 6 9 32 36 4
13 17 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 38 36 -2
14 27 3 1-3 4-4 8 12 46 48 2
15 11 1 1-2 4-4 8 12 54 60 6
16 7 1 2-3 3-3 6 0 60 60 0
17 27 3 2-3 4-4 8 12 68 72 4
18 14 2 1-2 4-4 8 12 76 84 8
19 35 3 1-3 3-3 6 9 82 93 11
20 22 2 1-2 3-3 6 9 88 102 14
21 11 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 92 108 16
22 9 1 2-3 2-2 4 0 96 108 12
23 26 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 102 117 15
24 21 2 1-2 3-3 6 9 108 126 18


suppose 19th spin would stop +11
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 07:57 AM 2016
On todays jackpot247.com #'s see single dozen repeats, so like Tuddilue can we make +10 using DKITYTI, prog +1, parley,parley till back to 1-1 units,remember if on the way down the parley stops and +1 till a win, then the parley,parley back to 1-1 units if you can.
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 26 3
2 8 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 34 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 4 6 2
4 36 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 6 6 0
5 15 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 10 12 2
6 4 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 14 18 4
7 34 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 16 21 5
8 9 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 18 24 6
9 16 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 20 27 7
10 25 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 22 30 8
11 12 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 24 33 9
12 10 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 26 33 7
13 28 3 2-3 2-2 4 6 30 39 9
14 28 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 34 39 5
15 30 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 40 39 -1
16 15 2 1-2 4-4 8 12 48 51 3
17 8 1 1-3 4-4 8 12 56 63 7
18 20 2 2-3 3-3 6 9 62 72 10


Now the tricky part as we've made +10 do we carry on, or go to another table
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: tuddilue on Mar 24, 07:59 AM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 24, 07:57 AM 2016
On todays jackpot247.com #'s see single dozen repeats, so like Tuddilue can we make +10 using DKITYTI, prog +1, parley,parley till back to 1-1 units,remember if on the way down the parley stops and +1 till a win, then the parley,parley back to 1-1 units if you can.
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 26 3
2 8 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 34 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 4 6 2
4 36 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 6 6 0
5 15 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 10 12 2
6 4 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 14 18 4
7 34 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 16 21 5
8 9 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 18 24 6
9 16 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 20 27 7
10 25 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 22 30 8
11 12 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 24 33 9
12 10 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 26 33 7
13 28 3 2-3 2-2 4 6 30 39 9
14 28 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 34 39 5
15 30 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 40 39 -1
16 15 2 1-2 4-4 8 12 48 51 3
17 8 1 1-3 4-4 8 12 56 63 7
18 20 2 2-3 3-3 6 9 62 72 10


Now the tricky part as we've made +10 do we carry on, or go to another table
Yes that is always the question. Sometimes it works sometimes not  O0
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 08:00 AM 2016
Oh yeah i used this prog because of grassroots, the double dozen and wanted to know if one could bet every spin and get a +win, the +win value you decide
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 08:05 AM 2016
Is it a case of watch for a dozen to repeat,you set the amount of repeat for when you go in with the above prog, todays biggest repeat is 5, 1st doz, to bigger L's you might not ever get a bet.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: tuddilue on Mar 24, 08:16 AM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 24, 08:05 AM 2016
Is it a case of watch for a dozen to repeat,you set the amount of repeat for when you go in with the above prog, todays biggest repeat is 5, 1st doz, to bigger L's you might not ever get a bet.
Interesting,  do you use 10 spins first as in KTF?
Yes I can agree on that, 5 in repeat is alot..  :wink:
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 08:18 AM 2016
Can you hear that song KEEP THE FAITH. Only +1/-1 dont cut it here, its +1/parley, parley,parley,if lose +1 again when win, parley,parley till back to 1-1 units or old high or new high.
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 26 3
2 8 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 34 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 4 6 2
4 36 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 6 6 0
5 15 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 10 12 2
6 4 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 14 18 4
7 34 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 16 21 5
8 9 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 18 24 6
9 16 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 20 27 7
10 25 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 22 30 8
11 12 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 24 33 9
12 10 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 26 33 7
13 28 3 2-3 2-2 4 6 30 39 9
14 28 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 34 39 5
15 30 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 40 39 -1
16 15 2 1-2 4-4 8 12 48 51 3
17 8 1 1-3 4-4 8 12 56 63 7
18 20 2 2-3 3-3 6 9 62 72 10 stop
19 15 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 68 72 4
20 5 1 1-3 4-4 8 12 76 84 8
21 11 1 2-3 4-4 8 0 84 84 0
22 8 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 94 84 -10
23 7 1 2-3 6-6 12 0 106 84 -22
24 5 1 2-3 7-7 14 0 120 84 -36
25 18 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 136 108 -28
26 13 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 152 108 -44
27 27 3 1-3 9-9 18 27 170 135 -35
28 33 3 1-2 9-9 18 0 188 135 -53
29 12 1 1-2 10-10 20 30 208 165 -43
30 26 3 2-3 10-10 20 30 228 195 -33
31 32 3 1-2 9-9 18 0 246 195 -51
32 18 2 1-2 10-10 20 30 266 225 -41
33 8 1 1-3 10-10 20 30 286 255 -31
34 21 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 304 282 -22
35 18 2 1-3 9-9 18 0 322 282 -40
36 31 3 1-3 10-10 20 30 342 312 -30
37 3 1 1-2 10-10 20 30 362 342 -20
38 23 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 380 369 -11
39 1 1 1-3 9-9 18 27 398 396 -2
40 30 3 2-3 8-8 16 24 414 420 6
41 22 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 430 444 14
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 08:25 AM 2016
Don't know about wait for 10 spins as they could get the +10, so i guess bet every spin. I suppose its how quickly you want to make a win, is it +10 or +50 or +100, this would depend on the BR, we can see here £/$ 1 units D/D is -53, so 10 units is 530
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: BellagioOwner on Mar 24, 09:04 AM 2016
i don't get what we mean by betting the double dozen. shouldnt that mean that whichever dozen comes, we bet the other 2 dozens?
i can't see that in the examples and test results you post. I see for example a number from 3rd dozen to be spun and the next bet is on 1st and 3rd dozen instead of 1st/2nd. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 09:05 AM 2016
 :thumbsup:
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 26 3
2 8 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 34 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 4 6 2
4 36 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 6 6 0
5 15 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 10 12 2
6 4 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 14 18 4
7 34 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 16 21 5
8 9 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 18 24 6
9 16 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 20 27 7
10 25 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 22 30 8
11 12 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 24 33 9
12 10 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 26 33 7
13 28 3 2-3 2-2 4 6 30 39 9
14 28 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 34 39 5
15 30 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 40 39 -1
16 15 2 1-2 4-4 8 12 48 51 3
17 8 1 1-3 4-4 8 12 56 63 7
18 20 2 2-3 3-3 6 9 62 72 10 stop
19 15 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 68 72 4
20 5 1 1-3 4-4 8 12 76 84 8
21 11 1 2-3 4-4 8 0 84 84 0
22 8 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 94 84 -10
23 7 1 2-3 6-6 12 0 106 84 -22
24 5 1 2-3 7-7 14 0 120 84 -36
25 18 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 136 108 -28
26 13 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 152 108 -44
27 27 3 1-3 9-9 18 27 170 135 -35
28 33 3 1-2 9-9 18 0 188 135 -53
29 12 1 1-2 10-10 20 30 208 165 -43
30 26 3 2-3 10-10 20 30 228 195 -33
31 32 3 1-2 9-9 18 0 246 195 -51
32 18 2 1-2 10-10 20 30 266 225 -41
33 8 1 1-3 10-10 20 30 286 255 -31
34 21 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 304 282 -22
35 18 2 1-3 9-9 18 0 322 282 -40
36 31 3 1-3 10-10 20 30 342 312 -30
37 3 1 1-2 10-10 20 30 362 342 -20
38 23 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 380 369 -11
39 1 1 1-3 9-9 18 27 398 396 -2
40 30 3 2-3 8-8 16 24 414 420 6
41 22 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 430 444 14
42 23 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 444 444 0
43 31 3 1-3 8-8 16 24 460 468 8
44 13 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 476 492 16
45 36 3 1-3 7-7 14 21 490 513 23
46 3 1 1-2 7-7 14 21 504 534 30
47 12 1 2-3 6-6 12 0 516 534 18
48 3 1 2-3 7-7 14 0 530 534 4
49 23 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 546 558 12
50 11 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 562 582 20
51 28 3 2-3 7-7 14 21 576 603 27
52 3 1 1-2 7-7 14 21 590 624 34
53 25 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 602 642 40
54 31 3 1-2 6-6 12 0 614 642 28
55 26 3 1-2 7-7 14 0 628 642 14
56 19 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 644 666 22
57 2 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 660 690 30
58 20 2 2-3 7-7 14 21 674 711 37
59 2 1 1-3 7-7 14 21 688 732 44
60 21 2 2-3 6-6 12 18 700 750 50
700 750 50
61 20 2 1-3 6-6 12 0 712 750 38
62 33 3 1-3 7-7 14 21 726 771 45
63 5 1 1-2 7-7 14 21 740 792 52
64 30 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 752 810 58
65 13 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 764 828 64
66 22 2 1-3 5-5 10 0 774 828 54
67 18 2 1-3 6-6 12 0 786 828 42
68 31 3 1-3 7-7 14 21 800 849 49
69 32 3 1-2 7-7 14 0 814 849 35
70 14 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 830 873 43
71 9 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 846 897 51
72 7 1 2-3 7-7 14 0 860 897 37
73 36 3 2-3 8-8 16 24 876 921 45
74 4 1 1-2 8-8 16 24 892 945 53
75 16 2 2-3 7-7 14 21 906 966 60
76 34 3 1-3 7-7 14 21 920 987 67
77 6 1 1-2 6-6 12 18 932 1005 73
78 9 1 2-3 6-6 12 0 944 1005 61
79 19 2 2-3 7-7 14 21 958 1026 68
80 26 3 1-3 7-7 14 21 972 1047 75
81 12 1 1-2 6-6 12 18 984 1065 81
82 14 2 2-3 6-6 12 18 996 1083 87
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 09:11 AM 2016
Quote from: BellagioOwner on Mar 24, 09:04 AM 2016
i don't get what we mean by betting the double dozen. shouldnt that mean that whichever dozen comes, we bet the other 2 dozens? yes
i can't see that in the examples and test results you post. I see for example a number from 3rd dozen to be spun and the next bet is on 1st and 3rd dozen instead of 1st/2nd. Am I missing something?Look at spin 1,#26, so spin 2 we bet 1-2.The column doz-doz to bet
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: BellagioOwner on Mar 24, 09:28 AM 2016
yes my bad. i had it in theory but couldn't figure it out in the results. i was looking the bet dozens on the same line. they are supposed to be looked on the next lines since they are the bets for the next spin. i got it. thanks
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: tuddilue on Mar 24, 09:30 AM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 24, 08:25 AM 2016
Don't know about wait for 10 spins as they could get the +10, so i guess bet every spin. I suppose its how quickly you want to make a win, is it +10 or +50 or +100, this would depend on the BR, we can see here £/$ 1 units D/D is -53, so 10 units is 530
I was just thinking if we can use the count at dozen as well as you did on EC. I was just thinking loud I have not tested it..

Yes that is always good to win much  :wink:
I have to run this some tests, always funny to bet double dozen. Some time ago you did alot when everyone talked about Grassroot..
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 02:36 PM 2016
Okay what happens if we reset where we where +10 spin 18
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 15 2
2 5 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 11 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 4 3 -1
4 8 1 2-3 2-2 4 0 8 3 -5
5 7 1 2-3 3-3 6 0 14 3 -11
6 5 1 2-3 4-4 8 0 22 3 -19
7 18 2 2-3 5-5 10 15 32 18 -14
8 13 2 1-3 5-5 10 0 42 18 -24
9 27 3 1-3 6-6 12 18 54 36 -18
10 33 3 1-2 6-6 12 0 66 36 -30
11 12 1 1-2 7-7 14 21 80 57 -23
12 26 3 2-3 7-7 14 21 94 78 -16
13 32 3 1-2 6-6 12 0 106 78 -28
14 18 2 1-2 7-7 14 21 120 99 -21
15 8 1 1-3 7-7 14 21 134 120 -14
16 21 2 2-3 6-6 12 18 146 138 -8
17 18 2 1-3 6-6 12 0 158 138 -20
18 31 3 1-3 7-7 14 21 172 159 -13
19 3 1 1-2 7-7 14 21 186 180 -6
20 23 2 2-3 6-6 12 18 198 198 0
21 1 1 1-3 6-6 12 18 210 216 6
22 30 3 2-3 5-5 10 15 220 231 11

The prog handled those 5, 1st dozens
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 02:42 PM 2016
kept going
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 15 2
2 5 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 11 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 4 3 -1
4 8 1 2-3 2-2 4 0 8 3 -5
5 7 1 2-3 3-3 6 0 14 3 -11
6 5 1 2-3 4-4 8 0 22 3 -19
7 18 2 2-3 5-5 10 15 32 18 -14
8 13 2 1-3 5-5 10 0 42 18 -24
9 27 3 1-3 6-6 12 18 54 36 -18
10 33 3 1-2 6-6 12 0 66 36 -30
11 12 1 1-2 7-7 14 21 80 57 -23
12 26 3 2-3 7-7 14 21 94 78 -16
13 32 3 1-2 6-6 12 0 106 78 -28
14 18 2 1-2 7-7 14 21 120 99 -21
15 8 1 1-3 7-7 14 21 134 120 -14
16 21 2 2-3 6-6 12 18 146 138 -8
17 18 2 1-3 6-6 12 0 158 138 -20
18 31 3 1-3 7-7 14 21 172 159 -13
19 3 1 1-2 7-7 14 21 186 180 -6
20 23 2 2-3 6-6 12 18 198 198 0
21 1 1 1-3 6-6 12 18 210 216 6
22 30 3 2-3 5-5 10 15 220 231 11
23 22 2 1-2 5-5 10 15 230 246 16
24 23 2 1-3 4-4 8 0 238 246 8
25 31 3 1-3 5-5 10 15 248 261 13
26 13 2 1-2 5-5 10 15 258 276 18
27 36 3 1-3 4-4 8 12 266 288 22
28 3 1 1-2 4-4 8 12 274 300 26
29 12 1 2-3 3-3 6 0 280 300 20
30 3 1 2-3 4-4 8 0 288 300 12
31 23 2 2-3 5-5 10 15 298 315 17
32 11 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 308 330 22
33 28 3 2-3 4-4 8 12 316 342 26
34 3 1 1-2 4-4 8 12 324 354 30
35 25 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 330 363 33
36 31 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 336 363 27
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: Tomla021 on Mar 31, 10:04 AM 2016
anyone still playing this?,, I like the parlay and it tests really really well
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: JimmieB on Mar 31, 10:39 AM 2016
I'm not one for playing double dozens these days, however, I had a few live dealer sessions the other night with some spare funds I had in my Sky Casino account, and got my 10 units per game fairly easily. If you like playing double dozens in what ever shape of form, you should really be giving this some consideration...thanks NTH :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 31, 11:51 AM 2016
Pleasure
i did the d/d at the end in corals as 3rd had hit 4 times, bet 1-1,2-2 but as had the bet back level just played out to see the old 15 in 30 spins.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 05, 04:02 PM 2016
Quote from: Tomla021 on Mar 31, 10:04 AM 2016
anyone still playing this?,, I like the parlay and it tests really really well

Evening Tomola, just come of the multi player and thought lets give DKITYTI started with 1063 and come off with 2000.

Parlayed and on a new high stopped let 13 or so spins go and started again, new high, repeated.
7 little games in total, can put the scruffy sheet up if you wanna look.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 05, 05:57 PM 2016
okay going back on multi player, i'm dotcom position 26 BR 2000  .9368

Lets see if we can win some more units, or meet the RFH
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 05, 06:30 PM 2016
Okay start 22.57pm finish 23.27 BR now 2500.

When new high reset, stopped with 2125, then 2250 ended at 2500  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 05, 07:07 PM 2016
Heres the workings
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 06, 06:31 AM 2016
Started with 2500, got to 2600 but thought see if could make 250 units, got sooooo close, but consecutives come, so the units went up, highest 5 parlay 5.
As could see had a new high,reset and try just for 100 units, well got that, start 11:08am finish 11:27.

will wait now to let the stream of #'s go by.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 06, 07:01 AM 2016
11;57 2600 units 12:00 2700 units.

now wait
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 06, 07:55 AM 2016
well thats that, Maestro not happy. to many grouping
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Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: maestro on Aug 06, 08:42 AM 2016
thats me i am never happy...oh @Turner ...Turner i wanted to ask you when you play chess and the other player replicates your move what would be outcome of the chess game...P.S question has nothing to do with roulette..thanks
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: Turner on Aug 06, 10:01 AM 2016
Quote from: maestro on Aug 06, 08:42 AM 2016
thats me i am never happy...oh @Turner ...Turner i wanted to ask you when you play chess and the other player replicates your move what would be outcome of the chess game...P.S question has nothing to do with roulette..thanks

Some openings do replicate a little like Scandinavian opening 1.e4 d5, but to replicate per se is not to understand the position.

You would soon win because your moves are sound, and his moves make no strategical sense.

If I play 1.d4, and black plays 1...e5, which is a mirror, this isnt an opening. The pawn can be captured with no reply.

In Scandinavian, the pawn can be took, but the queen can recapture. It makes sense.

The first pawn moves are to establish control of the centre of the board. All counter moves are usually to refute that control.

If I play 1.d4 and black plays 1...d5 this is a queens pawn opening of some description.

I am controlling c5 and e5, black is controlling c4 and e4.

Or, 1.d4 Nf6 , I say I am controlling e5, and he refutes it because his knight is also controlling that square.

Openings are generally about controlling the centre and opening lines for minor peices i.e.Knights and Bishops....and making counter claims about that control.

If you just copy their moves, you will lose material because some of your copy moves leave peices hanging (not protected)

(BTW....as soon as you take a piece because his replication left a piece hanging, he cant replicate your move can he?)
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: maestro on Aug 06, 10:32 AM 2016
thanks Turner you just hook me with that game now...i am going to read more and will ask questions if neede if you dont mind...thanks
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: Turner on Aug 06, 11:02 AM 2016
Quote from: maestro on Aug 06, 10:32 AM 2016nd will ask questions if neede if you dont mind
of course
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 08, 06:25 AM 2018
General thought i'd give this a go.

(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/12/08/source.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/FJtoD)

So i'll save you some time

1 pocket to0 many

Oh and yes already had a number come even before  press re-bet and of course its a win that is robbed.
But no point crying over spilt milk
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 08, 06:50 AM 2018
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What a boring way to play double dozens, but onward General, even 2 zero's and got new high.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 08, 07:53 AM 2018
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Those extra 13 pockets no prob so far
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: The General on Dec 08, 09:52 AM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 08, 07:53 AM 2018
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Those extra 13 pockets no prob so far

You're barely breaking even. ::)

It wins until it doesn't.
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 08, 09:58 AM 2018
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Who knows Random.org keeps trying with the zero's; but its only +1 and parley

Thouht you was going to show us some skill with your player name; but do you have a yellow stripe down your back.
Suppose your twin be on soon you seem to be on together, perhaps skyping each other to give the reply
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: The General on Dec 08, 10:22 AM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 08, 09:58 AM 2018
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Who knows Random.org keeps trying with the zero's; but its only +1 and parley

Thouht you was going to show us some skill with your player name; but do you have a yellow stripe down your back.
Suppose your twin be on soon you seem to be on together, perhaps skyping each other to give the reply

I'll try to get some play in at some point.   But I can't beat an RNG like random.org
Title: Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 08, 11:53 AM 2018
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Nor could double dozens here; with so0 many zero's and doubles and tripples.

89 spins so all spins are not necessarily in pic's 6 zero's would done Turbo proud plus 3*29

But General if you look at each block of 10 spins you can work out that repeat has happened so Standard would be more unit in credit.