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Title: Flat 4
Post by: denzie on Feb 15, 02:44 PM 2016
As the other thread is locked...

I'll keep posting my results here. Anyone who want to help testing. ...more then welcome.

And we leave the yakking away. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  :thumbsup:
So we know better than act like kids
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 02:56 PM 2016
I X'ed out your BS. Now go ahead, do it again.

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: denzie on Feb 15, 03:07 PM 2016
Thank you. Anyway I'm not going in to this again. I don't have the delete power. And I stand above all this. I'm a fighter in the ring and not from behind a pc.

So thx for the support emails guys. Much appreciated. So let's see how we can make it better if it's needed. So far I'm doing pretty good.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: thelaw on Feb 15, 03:17 PM 2016
Quote from: denzie on Feb 15, 02:44 PM 2016
As the other thread is locked...

I'll keep posting my results here. Anyone who want to help testing. ...more then welcome.

And we leave the yakking away. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  :thumbsup:
So we know better than act like kids

Hey Denzie,

Is this the method that you're using?

link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=17564.0

Just want to make sure than any members viewing this thread know what method we are discussing.

Thanks, and keep up the great work!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: denzie on Feb 15, 03:44 PM 2016
At the law....can't open it. :embarrassed:

Maybe you can post it here?
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: thelaw on Feb 15, 03:50 PM 2016
Quote from: denzie on Feb 15, 03:44 PM 2016
At the law....can't open it. :embarrassed:

Maybe you can post it here?

Interesting......worked earlier.........Ha!!!  >:D

Looks like someone is trying to stay one step ahead of us..........thought this might happen : :thumbsup:

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Easy to play and flat betting. Only 4 numbers to bet. I have great results at Dublin, only practice money. Also great results playing at the casino, 00 wheel. What bugs the hell out of me? Are the nay-sayers that will play it anyways or at minimum, will test it out. I debated FOR WEEKS, if I wanted to post it but what the heck!

I'll list the 9 sets of numbers >>

0 wheel
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A) 5-6-22-32
B) 15-18-24-27
C) 13-16-19-29
D) 4-7-33-36
E) 1-11-21-28
H) 2-12-20-30
J) 8-14-25-35
K) 3-17-23-31
L) 9-10-26-34....(No 0 in the mix)


9 sets for the 00 wheel >>
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A) 0-00-17-18
B) 5-6-27-28
C) 9-10-21-22
D) 25-26-33-34
E) 15-16-29-30
H) 3-4-11-12
J)  7-8-23-24
K) 19-20-35-36
L) 13-14-31-32  (No 1 or 2 in the mix)


Notice something with the sets of numbers (either wheel), the numbers are all spaced out evenly. To start off >> Track the first 18 spins. I will use the SINGLE zero wheel for this example. 20 hits: write H.

32 hits: write A
34 hits: write L
1 hits: write E
0 hits: write...nothing. etc etc until you have 18 tracked NOT counting if a 0 hits OR a 1 or 2 on the 00 wheel.

We have read, perhaps played methods regarding a TREND for the outside bets, correct? Well, this is TREND betting for the inside, 4 numbers.

I use to bet on the furthest back unhit set but lost too much so I CORRECTED the mistake, just like you're suppose to. If the spins are fast, you must always be looking at your list of 18 so you can DECIDE fast enough.

We will be betting on the 'letter' (4 numbers) that have appeared the MOST in the last 18 recorded, real simple. In other words.....what is temporarily HOT at the time. Flat bet those 4 numbers with the *SAME* unit sizes per spin. I do it at $15 per, $60 per spin.

As each NEW 'letter' you jot down, cross off the furthest back hit 'letter'. You will always have 18. Never more, never less. What about a tie? Usually (not always) it will be 4 hits within the 18 recorded.


Sometimes it might be a TIE with 3 or even 4. Take either one as a tie breaker (base it on nothing) but NOT both sets of 4. In terms of averages, we only need one hit in 9 spins...which means 2 hits within the 18 spins.

Anything over the 2 hits, is profit. Quite a few times you will have 5-6 hits within the 18. What I like about this method.....as one set is becoming cold (dropping out of the 18) a DIFFERENT set is now becoming hot and you will be on it. I also like the idea of spreading out the 4 numbers evenly. As soon as that ball passes one of your bet numbers, its coming up in only a few more pockets on another one of your bets! When to leave/quit? Its up to you. This method has NOTHING to do with sessions.

SIDENOTE: You noticed I skipped a couple letters. The 'F' and the 'G'. But why?

Again, I corrected a problem. The C and G look too much alike, I was making mistakes if I was looking too fast. The E and F look too much alike, I was making mistakes if I was looking too fast.
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4 in one group, 4 in another group? I would SKIP betting until the tie is broken, it won't take long! Like I said, I NOW track the last 13 hit, not 18. It cuts down alot on ties.

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"meanwhile other numbers/letters becoming hot" >>> BINGO, this is the POINT of the method. As one group may start to fade, another group really takes off. There are quite a few times I see 7 of the same letter within the 13 recorded. Of course all 7 of those you most likely would not be on but perhaps 3-4 of those spins, YES, you would be betting on those four numbers. After THAT group kind of fades, usually (not always) something else takes its place and dont forget, all four numbers are spread out on the wheel perfectly.



Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 03:54 PM 2016
ONE step ahead? Been doing this s**t for years. I've been two steps ahead of you before you even woke up. Are you sure those are the rules? (even before you copy/pasted)?  >:D

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: denzie on Feb 15, 03:55 PM 2016
Yup that's the one  :thumbsup:

Much appreciated
Myself , I'm using 13 also.

Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: tuddilue on Feb 15, 03:58 PM 2016
Yes that is the correct ones. I also looked them up.

It will be interesting to see the small tweaks you made denzie. How they works in the tests.
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: thelaw on Feb 15, 04:01 PM 2016
Quote from: MrJ on Feb 15, 03:54 PM 2016
ONE step ahead? Been doing this s**t for years. I've been two steps ahead of you before you even woke up. Are you sure those are the rules? (even before you copy/pasted)?  >:D

Ken

Hey Ken,

I know that you want to be part of the discussion, but this one is just not about you. Don't remember seeing your name brought up once......

I appreciate that you're so interested in us..........always nice to know that someone is thinking about me.

Best of luck with your "tweaks" :sad2:
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:03 PM 2016
Lets stop banter

Just make a good method from those number groups

Im testing a tweak myself. Bet each group as it comes.

The secretiveness and deleting threads is sooooo childish though

If you dont wanna be here dont be here

If we arent good enoigh to share with keep your mouth shut. Thats my 2 cents

If you feel like we are so low on the totem poll that you have to delete your past threads so we cant see info you have shared then better off not posting. Whats your purpose here then

No more room on a forum for someone who thinks they are better then all and goes back and delete their old threads with methods

Thats saying "eff you i dont want to share my methods with you people"

Thats why iggiv is so great. He disagrees with methods but he isnt a bad mod he is good. Make like an iggiv pal. Now you are disruptive at this point

Stop posting thatd do everyone a favor

Sounds harsh but its reality. If you dont want to share to the point that you are willing to go and delete old methods of yours then why post.
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: denzie on Feb 15, 04:08 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:03 PM 2016
Lets stop banter

Just make a good method from thos number groups

Im testing a tweak myself. Bet each group as it comes.

Test a ton of spins and look how they repeat on average. Then you know if you can play non stop , wait few virtual non hits, ....

I'm doing it also
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:09 PM 2016
Quote from: thelaw on Feb 15, 04:01 PM 2016
Hey Ken,

I know that you want to be part of the discussion, but this one is just not about you. Don't remember seeing your name brought up once......

I appreciate that your so interested in us..........always nice to know that someone is thinking about me.

Best of luck with your "tweaks" :sad2:

Good luck with your copy/pasted "rules"...I'm sure it'll all work out.  ;)  You better have 20 or so "friends" tweaking this 24/7 or its back to the big house for ya...a 6-8 year sentence my brother. You'll be how old then? Remember, try not to lie with your RESULTS and I dont mean 300 spins.

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:11 PM 2016
Now you are taking pride put of withholding information. Like a kid. Unprofessional. No room for you anymore here. Just stay silent man
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:12 PM 2016
"The secretiveness and deleting threads is sooooo childish though" >> If its MY THREAD, I'll do so as I please, correct?

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: thelaw on Feb 15, 04:12 PM 2016
Quote from: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:09 PM 2016
Good luck with your copy/pasted "rules"...I'm sure it'll all work out.  ;)  You better have 20 or so "friends" tweaking this 24/7 or its back to the big house for ya...a 6-8 year sentence my brother. You'll be how old then? Remember, try not to lie with your RESULTS and I dont mean 300 spins.

Ken

You're absolutely right.

We should have just asked you.............oh...wait............never-mind. :sad2:

Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: thelaw on Feb 15, 04:13 PM 2016
Quote from: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:12 PM 2016
"The secretiveness and deleting threads is sooooo childish though" >> If its MY THREAD, I'll do so as I please, correct?

Ken

Good to know it isn't your thread.....
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:14 PM 2016
Unreal

I thought it was me at first when my head butting began with you

Now i know it aint me

So glad that we have a moderator someone who we are supposed to trust taking pride about witholding tweaks which who knows if they even exist to begin with. But taking pride in holding them and deleting old methods.

Good mentor.  :thumbsup:

Id rather play Marty on red at this point then look up to you. Cause you are just really really crazy these days
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:16 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:11 PM 2016
Now you are taking pride put of withholding information. Like a kid. Unprofessional. No room for you anymore here. Just stay silent man

This is what you and your two buddies do and you are...kind of good at it. Hey, a compliment for you. This post I quoted of yours....its full of JABS and JABS and JABS and you know, its almost not worthy of deleting. Sooo, you get to have it BOTH ways. It either stays up OR gets deleted but then you HIDE BEHIND..."but I did nothing wrong Steve, why did Ken delete it"? Unreal.

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:17 PM 2016
Oh ypu wanna bring that up now

You deleted me saying i wouldnt argue with u then Banned me.

Jabs? Its true
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:20 PM 2016
Quote from: thelaw on Feb 15, 04:13 PM 2016
Good to know it isn't your thread.....

Thats not what I said. If any method thread of MINE (on either board) was deleted by ME and I started MY threads, I have the right to delete it AND can "change" whatever I wanted, PRIOR to it being copy/pasted. Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it.

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:21 PM 2016
Ok

I have a legitamete question

If you dont want to share your methods. And go back and delete old methods you have posted. And take pride in it essentially saying "i have it and u dont haha" then why are you here. Why?
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:23 PM 2016
2nd question. Why would you change the flat 4 thread before deleting it

You talk about not doing thingsn that dont benefit you. Hows that benefit you

A mod to change a thread to mislead. Come onnn.
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: thelaw on Feb 15, 04:25 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:23 PM 2016
2nd question. Why would you change the flat 4 thread before deleting it

You talk aboit not doing thigns that dont benefit you. Hows that benefit you

A mod to change a thread to mislead. Come onnn.

Don't worry.........I got to it before then. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:25 PM 2016
 :sad2:
Quote from: thelaw on Feb 15, 04:25 PM 2016
Don't worry.........I got to it before then. :thumbsup:

Me too. But i want to know whyy he would do that. I wanna her him say it
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:26 PM 2016
Iggiv. Turner. Colbster. Steve. State your thoughts please.
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:28 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:17 PM 2016
Oh ypu wanna bring that up now

You deleted me saying i wouldnt argue with u then Banned me.

Jabs? Its true

You go right up to that line....kinda tip toeing around it. Its an insult but not really an insult but it kind of is, knowing, you really didn't cross over. There is a reason you post HERE and not at WoV and we ALL know that reason. Here, almost anything goes. Your boy started this thread and had to include me on the FIRST post. (lol)

You'll always be looking for table scraps RG, you and your weak crew. Hands out, crying and complaining to the man. Unreal again. The reason you mess with a mod is because you know I/we can not really fire back, thats why you do it. I would love to unmod (is that a word?) myself for a month. I would embarrass the s**t out of you if I could get away with the same BS you do.

Ken

Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: tuddilue on Feb 15, 04:29 PM 2016
I found one tweak of the number 4 that a user here on the forum named Side B did.

I thinks it really interesting tweak:

"What I do is that I not only look at the last 20-30 spins or so, I continually look at the sector that's appeared the most in the whole game. I pick a sector and I stick to it. In any session, there are always 2 to 4 sectors that are strong and keep reappearing. If my sector becomes too sleepy, I pick another one and stick to the new one. I flat bet only, recovery powers are phenomenal in the rare cases that you start going onto the red.

All based on the way Ken divided the wheel, so thank you again Ken!! Those 9 sectors you came up with are just magical. Now my only worry is being booted out of my casino for winning too much, I've been withdrawing money once or twice a day for a few 100s each time!

I don't really care if anyone takes an interest in this, or if anyone thinks I'm just lucky and that it won't last. The only reason for me posting this is to thank Ken and give people who have missed this thread the chance to give his method a look.
"

When he later was asked if he was playing his tweak he answered:
"Hi all, yes I'm still playing the same way. I tend to stick to one sector for at least 40 spins, then switch to hottest sector for another 40 spins etc"
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:30 PM 2016
Quote from: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:28 PM 2016
You go right up to that line....kinda tip toeing around it. Its an insult but not really an insult but it kind of is, knowing, you really didn't cross over. There is a reason you post HERE and not at WoV and we ALL know that reason. Here, almost anything goes. Your boy started this thread and had to include me on the FIRST post. (lol)

You'll always be looking for table scraps RG, you and your weak crew. Hands out, crying and complaining to the man. Unreal again. The reason you mess with a mod is because you know I/we can not really fire back, thats why you do it. I would love to unmod (is that a word?) myself for a month. I would embarrass the s**t out of you if I could get away with the same BS you do.

Ken

Yoi are a terrible moderator

This is the internet. I wouldnt be embarrased

You are truly a bad moderator

Your im better then you atitude.
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:31 PM 2016
It is cute that you bring up wov

This is a roulette strategy forum. That doesnt fly at wov. Thats why people post here

Holy sh*t
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:32 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:23 PM 2016
2nd question. Why would you change the flat 4 thread before deleting it

You talk about not doing thingsn that dont benefit you. Hows that benefit you

A mod to change a thread to mislead. Come onnn.

It doesn't benefit me but it does not benefit you, thats the key. Listen up the rest of you guys....There are maybe 4(?) here that are really on me. The REST, I have no issues with, decent guys!!

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:35 PM 2016
Your post about wov made no sense. We all post here because we wouldnt work at wov. They dont like roulete systems.

This is a forum dedicated to that

:twisted:
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:38 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:31 PM 2016
It is cute that you bring up wov

This is a roulette strategy forum. That doesnt fly at wov. Thats why people post here

Holy sh*t

Wrong answer...you would of been banned at least 3 times and I think, three strikes and you have a perm ban, thats the REAL reason. Your other post...a bad mod? You are a terrible member that takes advantage of the temporary fact that, you can almost do as you wish, thats why your YOUNG attitude sucks. If a mod gets involved in YOUR business, he's a bad mod. What kind of logic is that?

That would mean, either let RG run the show...or else?

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:41 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:35 PM 2016
Your post about wov made no sense. We all post here because we wouldnt work at wov. They dont like roulete systems.

This is a forum dedicated to that

:twisted:

I can half agree on that, they dont like methods but did you leave anything out? Your posting attitudes would NOT make it past 50 posts, you would be gone. They dont ban you because you post a roulette method.

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:43 PM 2016
Wrong. Im a member and post at wov

Im not banned because i dont talk roulette systems. Thats what this forums for

No more energy on you

Think of me as you wish

As far as you ill go by what ive been seeing. i know your type

Your a bad mod not for involving youself in my threads. But for deleting old methods and taking pride and laughing.

My last post in response to you. Ever
.

Hey are you mogul?
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: Turner on Feb 15, 04:47 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:26 PM 2016
Iggiv. Turner. Colbster. Steve. State your thoughts please.

my thoughts? I think The Law and Denzie, or Bonny and Clyde, seem to think more people will like them if they stir shit up all the time.

I can relate to that because I used to do it. My excuse was that I was 12.

All they are doing is causing good guys to leave.

I think they are disrespectful to moderators and members who have put a lot of effort into the forum by writing all this shit.

At least Denzie makes some effort to actually write roulette posts. This particular one is to discredit Mr J and nothing else.

Ive never seen The Law actually post anything to do with roulette.

Im not enjoying coming here any more. Its childish, tedious and boring.
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:49 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 15, 04:43 PM 2016
Wrong. Im a member and post at wov

Im not banned because i dont talk roulette systems. Thats what this forums for

No more energy on you

Think of me as you wish

As far as you ill go by what ive been seeing. i know your type

Your a bad mod not for involving youself in my threads. But for deleting old methods and taking pride and laughing.

My last post in reaponse to you. Ever.

Hey are you mogul?



Am I Mogul? I think the X-Files are on tonight, just for you. Every time you say bad mod, I'm gonna say...you are a bad member, bad for business. You LOVE to argue and toe the "rules" line. There is no special rule just for RG...mess with the mod because the mod cant (or shouldn't) reply back. Thats your best board strategy here?

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: icashbot on Feb 15, 04:51 PM 2016
we should all
be publishing findings and try beat the game not each other :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: MrJ on Feb 15, 04:55 PM 2016
We got snow today. I'm going out to shovel and cool off.

GUYS >> Lets PLEASE PLEASE turn it off. Post, have fun etc., but dont take jabs at me (without using my name I might add), PLEASE lets do what we do best. Mod or not, I dont take s**t, period.

There was a guy at the old RF board who was a mod (I think I remember his name but won't mention it) who quit as a mod so he could defend himself better, now that is odd, no? Peace out, cold time, buurrrr.

Ken
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: thelaw on Feb 15, 04:56 PM 2016
Quote from: Turner on Feb 15, 04:47 PM 2016
my thoughts? I think The Law and Denzie, or Bonny and Clyde, seem to think more people will like them if they stir shit up all the time.

I can relate to that because I used to do it. My excuse was that I was 12.

All they are doing is causing good guys to leave.

I think they are disrespectful to moderators and members who have put a lot of effort into the forum by writing all this shit.

At least Denzie makes some effort to actually write roulette posts. This particular one is to discredit Mr J and nothing else.

Ive never seem The Law actually post anything to do with roulette.

Im not enjoying coming here any more. Its childish, tedious and boring.

I understand where Turner is coming from .......100%.

Although I think that he misrepresents me, I get it..........this place is getting more and more difficult to stomach every day.

So I'm done bickering. I thought that calling out b*llshit when I saw it was productive, but this forum is not designed for that type of criticism...........I get that now.

It's been great, and I've gained a wealth of knowledge about the game during my time here.

Best of luck to everyone! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Flat 4
Post by: Turner on Feb 15, 05:13 PM 2016
@Denzie

This is locked. The intention of this post stinks. It aims to discredit someone and nothing else.

Dont continue with the same theme or I will delete it and will ban you for 5 days.