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Title: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 24, 04:38 AM 2016
This idea was stolen from Atlantis (Thanks man!) - But HE played it with an EC bet. I play it with a straightup bet of 9 numbers.

Procedure: Wait for a SINGLE (a switch of color R/B) Now you bet that this will become a DOUBLE (RR, BB).
IF LOW hits you bet all same HIGH colored numbers, IF HIGH hits, you bet all same LOW colored numbers (9 numbers bet).
IF A RBRBRB-pattern is formed, STOP AFTER 3 SPINS, and wait for this patten to End.

Progression -none- FLATBET

First tests was played with 5u bets (wingoal +250u, stoploss -500u)

5/5 Games won
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: NextYear on Mar 24, 05:02 AM 2016
Your flat bet strategies are becoming better and better, thanks Ig!
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 24, 05:27 AM 2016
Quote from: nextyear on Mar 24, 05:02 AM 2016
Your flat bet strategies are becoming better and better, thanks Ig!

Thanks for your kind words and your support nextyear <3 Now, I couldn't get that 10/10 BUT IT WAS VERY CLOSE!!!  ;D 
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 24, 05:29 AM 2016
9/10 Games won
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 24, 08:23 AM 2016
13/15 Games won
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 24, 09:49 AM 2016
18/20 Games won

...and that's a 90% winrate  8)  :love:  :love: 
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: Willie on Mar 24, 12:02 PM 2016
Nice system ignatus :thumbsup:
In my spins though I was getting more hits on- If LOW hits, bet LOW, if HIGH hits, bet HIGH.

Can you please share the spins of any of the above graphs so we can check for this
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 24, 12:34 PM 2016
Quote from: Willie on Mar 24, 12:02 PM 2016
Nice system ignatus :thumbsup:
In my spins though I was getting more hits on- If LOW hits, bet LOW, if HIGH hits, bet HIGH.

Can you please share the spins of any of the above graphs so we can check for this

Thanks! Good observation, i've noticed that also, but i haven't tested it, it could be a tweak of this system perhaps. Although i don't have the energy to test it more today (i played it most of the day today) so, if you or anyone could test your tweak i be happy. The spins are already posted, you can find them here: link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16562.0
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 24, 01:56 PM 2016
First tests awesome results! No drawdowns at all!

Same spins as the first 5 test: Willie's Tweak 5/5 Games won.
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 24, 02:03 PM 2016
OK the joy was shortlived, first loss with willie's tweak 5/6 games won...
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 24, 02:13 PM 2016
OK, i've tested your idea Wille, (with the same spins as the first 10 tests!) but im sorry to say it failed! i had 9/10 games won with the original rules, and now i got yet another loss. (5/7 games won) so, i stick with the original rules...

cheers
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 27, 01:07 PM 2016
Had some unpublished spins; I will continue testing this one, because it may be one of my best betselections (all thanks to Atlantis!)  ;D Played with the original rules. FLATBET

22/25 Games won
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 27, 01:52 PM 2016
25/30 Games won

(And that's not so bad, still a 83% winrate!)
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 27, 02:27 PM 2016
27/33 Games won

And that's the final stats for this system. Winrate ~80%
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: Willie on Mar 30, 12:04 AM 2016
Great testing ignatus! :smile:
Nice of you to stick with a system for this long!
I will definitely test more with your original rules to see if I get similar results..
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Mar 30, 03:19 AM 2016
Quote from: Willie on Mar 30, 12:04 AM 2016
Great testing ignatus! :smile:
Nice of you to stick with a system for this long!
I will definitely test more with your original rules to see if I get similar results..

Thanks  :) Looking forward to your results
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 14, 03:59 PM 2016
Quote from: Willie on Mar 30, 12:04 AM 2016
Great testing ignatus! :smile:
Nice of you to stick with a system for this long!
I will definitely test more with your original rules to see if I get similar results..
Did it hold up
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: Willie on Apr 15, 01:41 PM 2016
Tested 2 sessions with this recently with the bet size and win/loss ratio suggested by ignatus:

First session- 14 spins, +270, no drawdowns
Second session- 65 spins, +270, max drawdown -135 on 36th spin

Ignatus I had a doubt in the below spins-


25-red
35- black, trigger (bet black low numbers in next spin)
7- red (lost)

Now shall we bet on high red numbers immediately on the next spin after a loss or wait for the next switch of colour?
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Apr 15, 01:50 PM 2016
Quote from: Willie on Apr 15, 01:41 PM 2016
Ignatus I had a doubt in the below spins-[/b]

25-red
35- black, trigger (bet black low numbers in next spin)
7- red (lost)

Now shall we bet on high red numbers immediately on the next spin after a loss

Yes, you bet the Red High numbers 35, 7 that's also a trigger
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Jul 15, 04:32 AM 2016
IF im ever going to play for real, this is it. I'm considering it...
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: Drazen on Jul 15, 05:18 AM 2016
I have a sheet from Flatino whose friend was playing this on no limit tables in Germany. The gentleman brings suitcase to the casino with 500K and plays like this using martingale.

They were convinced that in those circumstances this is pure holy grail and they claimed they never seen it goes beyond 7 or so losses in a row...

But the relation between singles and series is same as between R and B for example. So it means they were wrong. I dont when that gentleman realized that but I am sure he did eventually.

So be careful dear Ignatus.

Best

Drazen
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Jul 15, 05:29 AM 2016
Quote from: Drazen on Jul 15, 05:18 AM 2016
I have a sheet from Flatino whose friend was playing this on no limit tables in Germany. The gentleman brings suitcase to the casino with 500K and plays like this using martingale.

They were convinced that in those circumstances this is pure holy grail and they claimed they never seen it goes beyond 7 or so losses in a row...

But the relation between singles and series is same as between R and B for example. So it means they were wrong. I dont when that gentleman realized that but I am sure he did eventually.

So be careful dear Ignatus.

Best

Drazen

Yes, you're right. but then this is the best i can come up with a 80% winrate flatbet. it has been well tested and need more testing, i will start a thread in "testing zone" for this... i know losses can happen, we'll see..

There is a stoploss after 3 RBRB. It should preform as expected, with proper moneymanagement

Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: denzie on Jul 15, 08:19 AM 2016
Quote from: Drazen on Jul 15, 05:18 AM 2016

But the relation between singles and series is same as between R and B for example.

So be careful dear Ignatus.

Best

Drazen
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: ignatus on Sep 27, 09:44 AM 2016
More testings of this one is coming up next
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: Willie on Sep 28, 12:02 PM 2016
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 15, 01:50 PM 2016
Yes, you bet the Red High numbers 35, 7 that's also a trigger

Thanks, waiting for your latest results!
This one seems promising
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 28, 04:35 PM 2016
It's good.  Good job but I prefer your hot number system. 35/37. 94,5% win rate ;)
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 29, 11:44 AM 2016
Quote from: ignatus on Mar 24, 04:38 AM 2016Wait for a SINGLE (a switch of color R/B) Now you bet that this will become a DOUBLE (RR, BB).

What is though the logic behind this to bet it?
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: Willie on Oct 26, 02:26 PM 2016
Quote from: ignatus on Sep 27, 09:44 AM 2016
More testings of this one is coming up next

Ignatus, did you go ahead some more with this one? Looked quite good
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Oct 26, 09:56 PM 2016
Ignatus,
I have come across numerous other singles-to-doubles bet selection methods, but they are usually all 18 number bets. This 9 number version of yours is the first one of its type that I have come across.

Interesting stuff. Kudos to your creativity and thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: Willie on Oct 28, 12:57 AM 2016
A progression on this wouldn't be so bad if the losses in a row aren't too many
Title: Re: Singles To Doubles
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Oct 28, 07:30 AM 2016
Yes, possibly, though I am not a fan of negative progressions.

But this bet selection method has merit even for flat betting.