I've been working on my own for a while looking at different methods of bet play and
selection.
You have, betting next to last.
link:://betselection.cc/dozencolumn-7/dozen-repeater-iii/
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15831.0
And these kinds of tracking methods.
I like D'alenbert for betting. I just always have, even though I know it can
be a disaster depending on how it goes.
But a variation of looking at one side of a thing is to switch betting sides
and follow the result that is happening.
For "next to last", on a loss, you switch to "opposite of last".
For the methods looking for 2 EC's or 2 dozen, the same thing.
I have been watching this for a while now. I went to do some paper play today,
and, like a lot of my recent data and zumma tests, it seems to hold up.
One specific thing I was looking at playing the "next to last" was to pick a number
like 5 and if you lose that bet, then you quit and start over. Take your 15 unit loss,
and play sessions based on that. It seems to have a good result.
If this gets off the ground then I'll post some actual runs of live data, like what
I got today. The betting is different between EC's and dozens. But the results always
seem to cluster enough. When I play dozens (+1 -1) and there is a loss I go to playing
the "opposite two" flat, and back again. Two different games, so to speak.
But with the right betting scheme applied to the right bets, this idea seems to hold up.
See attachment.
link:://betselection.cc/dozencolumn-7/dozen-repeater-iii/
Why isn't this being discussed? :question:
Thousands of spins, and still in profit............. :ooh:
i dig it. :thumbsup:
Update :
Just spoke to Ignatus, and he claims method never failed during testing. :thumbsup:
Is there a thread on this forum of this method...surely? Anyway, is this how it's played.......
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I had better results where if a dozen repeats bet against it once. If lose wait for next trigger
Thanks mogul & thelaw for reminding me about "Dozen Repeater III" gave it a go and the result was positive! :smile:
i'd be curious what the testing graph would look like betting against a 3 peat as ghost mentioned.
Quote from: onetaste on May 18, 12:05 PM 2016
i'd be curious what the testing graph would look like betting against a 3 peat as ghost mentioned.
Keep in mind you'll need to bet 2 dozens to win........ :ooh:
Quote from: thelaw on May 17, 11:05 PM 2016
link:://betselection.cc/dozencolumn-7/dozen-repeater-iii/
Why isn't this being discussed? :question:
Thousands of spins, and still in profit............. :ooh:
Cause my name doesn't draw a crowd....
Anyway, went again today and got data. Wheel was throwing a lot of zeros,
so if it were real play I probably would have passed.
I tracked the above method (only on dozens, no columbs yet). It seemed
to be leaning in a "2 dozen" direction, which I talked about in my attachment.
The S/O on the even props seemed pretty good. Would have done fine with
a D'alenbert. I was wondering about that "+1 on a win and stay on a loss"
progression, but not sure.
Either way, I think doing what I said on the EC with a D'alenbert works well.
Cut loss at 5 units in the progression (15 unit loss). And I think it's a
comfortable progression for profit. I think that, with there always being the
possibility of the killer progression, it is the best way to look at playing.
Something easy and relaxed where you occasionally take a small loss.
And that is it's biggest selling point.
(It's FREE here. Not selling)
The dozens methods require a bit more work. / Not sure about the "thousands of wins"
thing though. But I will say that it does seem to hold up, even though there are runs of
just "doubles" before the triples streak. But I'd love to see and accept more ideas on that.
Is there a RX Code of Dozen Repeater III already?
That would be a gread method for a bot on No Zero roulette.
Maybe someone interested, skilled with rapid fingers around here? :question:
R.
The mogul attacks the dozens --thanks I will take a look
Quote from: buffalowizard on May 18, 09:39 AM 2016
Is there a thread on this forum of this method...surely? Anyway, is this how it's played.......
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Not sure what I'm looking at here. The "win" would be 3 dozen in a row.
2 dozen, then the 3rd. Many of the things you mark as "win" don't even
have 2.
Can you explain please?
And I agree with RG. I get a lot of doubles. My original point was that they cluster.
And oh. The opposite/same of next to last feels strong. I have another data set to look at.
Quote from: ignatus on May 18, 10:04 AM 2016
Thanks mogul & thelaw for reminding me about "Dozen Repeater III" gave it a go and the result was positive! :smile:
Assuming a few losses here and there.......how about using the following MM : :question:
(credit to Ego)
WW - you win the first two sessions end the day and go home happy
WLW - you win two session out of three end the day and go home happy
LWW - you win two session out of three end the day and go home happy
LLW - you took a small loss with out losing it all end the day and go home happy
LLL - you hit three loses in a row accept your bad tram and end the day and go home happy
Quote from: Tomla021 on May 18, 03:33 PM 2016
The mogul attacks the dozens --thanks I will take a look
Actually it's a concept. Started with the EC playing D'alenbert, and noticing
how these method results cluster.
Betting on the lower end of the "high blood pressure" scale.
Quote from: thelaw on May 19, 10:17 AM 2016
Assuming a few losses here and there.......how about using the following MM : :question:
(credit to Ego)
WW - you win the first two sessions end the day and go home happy
WLW - you win two session out of three end the day and go home happy
LWW - you win two session out of three end the day and go home happy
LLW - you took a small loss with out losing it all end the day and go home happy
LLL - you hit three loses in a row accept your bad tram and end the day and go home happy
It's true. Good expansion of the concept..
The last 4 times I showed up to gather data I bring $20. I play 2 dozens
one time. Earn $5 and cash out. And paper play this stuff. And leave
with $5.
*********8WW - you win the first two sessions end the day and go home happy
WLW - you win two session out of three end the day and go home happy
LWW - you win two session out of three end the day and go home happy
LLW - you took a small loss with out losing it all end the day and go home happy
LLL - you hit three loses in a row accept your bad tram and end the day and go home happy*****
The originator of this MM is m John Patrick , professional gambler. It had been posted several times by Nathan Detroit and EGO as well. Both have read the book ADVANCED ROULETTE by John Patrick.
Just to keep the record straight WHO should be credited with this superior MM
Tamino aka Nathan Detroit
If it says happy winnings why do so many players are leaving a casino with sad faces ??