I have stopped playing roulette for a while, but I started playing BlackJack again, and it made me think about someting I was wondering about.
Why are they sessions we win, sessions we lose and other sessions that we get even.
What I mean is, there are sessions when everything is going well, and I keep making money. I win a lot of hands. Then, the next day, I lose a lot and the dealer keep beating me... There are some days when we both win the same and I get even with the house.
Why is that? Why arent their more days when I win and the house win the same?? These three type of days seems to be equal...
Why is that?? I was wondering, is there a way to find out when is gonna be a good day and when is gonna be a bad day??
Did you ever find something like that in your playing??
Simon.
I don't quite know the answer myself. Bayes knows the answer - but I doubt he could explain it in laymen's terms.
It seems that, although all spins and sequences have constant odds, every session is very unstable for some reason due to the way variance works, including whatever laws govern deviation, distribution and statistics. Anyone have an idiot's guide to variance? So every session looks different and every system can win and lose over different data sets. And the longer you play you will eventually lose because you get caught up in a black hole that is the Law of Large Numbers, which is almost impossible to recover from.
However, Priyanka has shown us - and is probably the first to do so in the history of Roulette - that when sets are played in short finite cycles every game becomes more stable and less affected by variance. This is how I would have expected Roulette to behave in the first place, but we are only finding out about this since Sep 2015.
The above has less to do with the house edge, since even if we had no house edge we still wouldn't know how to come up with a system that is a consistent winner.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jun 19, 09:05 AM 2016
since even if we had no house edge we still wouldn't know how to come up with a system that is a consistent winner.
No? i could find one for sure !
I am playing ANY system the John Patrick way . With his exit strategies I am a menace in the eyes of the B & M casino dealers. They never know WHEN I spring the cash me out request.
No details and sharing.
Quote from: SimonZed1 on Jun 19, 08:18 AM 2016Why are they sessions we win, sessions we lose and other sessions that we get even.
What I mean is, there are sessions when everything is going well, and I keep making money. I win a lot of hands. Then, the next day, I lose a lot and the dealer keep beating me... There are some days when we both win the same and I get even with the house.
Why is that? Why arent their more days when I win and the house win the same?? These three type of days seems to be equal...
Why is that?? I was wondering, is there a way to find out when is gonna be a good day and when is gonna be a bad day??
When honesty is used by all, everyone would say this happens to them. Hard pick signal in beginning. Hindsight. :(
This why we lose.
QuoteMany years ago when I started with this roulette endeavor, there weren's casinos in Buenos Aires (Argentina), so I had to travel to Mar de Plata or Uruguay.
There gathered all sorts of people, but some were professional gamblers. I decided that the shortest way to live from this was to learn from them. I met many liars who claimed they were winning and winning when in reality they were wasting an inheritance or money from their parents.
Of course, I also found the professionals; and one of them, the great Nono Santelli (RIP), began to teach me many things starting from the figure of the Perfect Loser.
What is the Perfect Loser?, A fictional figure that allows by contrast to become a Perfect Winner (actually closer to that.)
How does a perfect loser behave, this is, someone who ALWAYS loses?
What is probably the only thing that causes someone to lose all his sessions?
Hint: It is considered that the casino never closes.
Answer:
Staying up to losing it all...
Obvious conclusion: you have to leave when you win.
When to go? How to know that if I win, I will not win more?
Answer:
Every negative streak starts with a losing spin.
This is the first sign, sometimes enough to leave. For example, if we play even chance with an uniform unit (flat bets), if our goal is to win one chip (or ten, is the same for that matter) if we just won two, shall we lose the next we're going with the mission accomplished and cut outright the possibility of being grabbed by a bad streak.
As my first law says you have to limit losses and not the gains, hence I do not recommend going right after just reaching the target, but, if possible, to minimize the following betting attacks and as soon as the first negative signal appears, then stop.
It is clear then that the Perfect Loser does not know what to do when he wins.
What does the perfect loser do when he loses?
Answer:
Play more, more, more and more ...
If you are in a hole the only thing you never have to do is keep digging.
If we take a shortcut then we can see that a recovery strategy should be SLOW, especially because we cannot go into despair and even it allows us to reflect on whether is it not tomorrow the day to recover...
To date:
When the perfect loser wins, stays until he loses everything.
When the perfect loser loses, he bets more and more, or loses more and more until it runs out of money or commit suicide.
What if in that betting more and more he happens to win again, recovered and is again on top?
Answer:
1 .- When he wins, plays until he loses.
2 .- When he loses bets more.
3 .- If he recoups, stays back to step 1.
How does the Perfect Loser play?
Answer:
The perfect loser aims to accelerate the times, and to accelerate his playing time, he plays as hard as possible. Do you know why? Because he wants to stop suffering, he no longer stand.
Is the PL perhaps a fool?
Answer:
No. Only an intelligent person can lose a lot at the casino.
Controversial Law if any, a fool does not usually have much money, and when he has it, it is not easily lost, he is sullen and distrustful.
Watch the big losers and you will see some very smart people, usually seen in other areas: big businessmen, professionals, merchants. Intelligent people.
The perfect losers are smart people following stupid behaviour.
And I'm not talking about being addicted to gambling, not least in its terminal phase.
The PL at the bottom feels you just cannot win the game, and there are lots of social pressure to do so.
Anyone can say that he is a multinational tobacco company executive and he will be looked at with admiration (when it is proven that the tobacco is killing stuff).
It is not hard to be rejected when we say we live from the game, although legal, although a deeper act of justice, and although we are never hurting anyone.
The PL is an intelligent person who is in a moral debate and has a terrible internal struggle. He wants to win continuously but can't bear with it as his head is full of prejudices and social conventions.
The PL feels good just beginning to play because adrenaline produces well-being, but after a while it becomes a torture and anguish begins.
In other words, we completed the PL in its first phase.
In summary:
The Perfect Loser -Stage 1
1 .- When he wins keeps playing until he loses.
2 .- When he loses plays more (because the PL cannot stand the pressure of playing. If he has the ability to lose big money it is because he is intelligent and knows what it takes to win the money; if he wins, it is socially difficult to sustain this lifestyle. He wants to lose and end his suffering, his internal struggle).
3 .- If he recoups it is to return to step 1 (Continued internal pressure rises, now increased by adrenaline).
The Perfect Loser is an intelligent person, usually successful outside the casino, that has a moral debate between winning, which he would like (but which moral rules condemn) and losing, that moral rules also condemn.
Manrique
Learn not be Perfect Loser, become winner.
That's just unhelpful nonsense IMO. Listen more to what TurboGenius and Nickmsi were saying in the Basics Thread:
*Payout odds are lower than the odds of winning (something along those lines)
*There is always a random combination that will kill us.
Priyanka has never addressed the first point other than to say that we must increase predictability, but she had this to say about the 2nd point (in so many words):
*We must lose less when the losing combinations come about.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 01:09 PM 2016
That's just unhelpful nonsense IMO.
Then you not real life player. Simulation not real life.
Real life player understand nonsense, experience nonsense. RouletteGhost real life player, I sure he understand.
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 12:55 PM 2016
This why we lose.
Learn not be Perfect Loser, become winner.
Wow, that right there is soooo deep.
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:16 PM 2016
Then you not real life player. Simulation not real life.
Real life player understand nonsense, experience nonsense. RouletteGhost real life player, I sure he understand.
General information about when to step away from the casino isn't going to help us gain edge or develop a winning strategy. It's just a slap in the face.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 01:22 PM 2016
General information about when to step away from the casino isn't going to help us gain edge or develop a winning strategy. It's just a slap in the face.
How many time you winning then end loser?
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 01:22 PM 2016
General information about when to step away from the casino isn't going to help us gain edge or develop a winning strategy. It's just a slap in the face.
Duh! It's like reading your Pri nonsense.
Quote from: The General on Jul 16, 01:18 PM 2016
Wow, that right there is soooo deep.
Quote from: The General on Jul 16, 01:26 PM 2016
Duh! It's like reading your Pri nonsense.
This why you irrelevant.
This is just a distraction. It's not useful information. It's like teaching somebody that to play effective tennis you need a racket and a tennis ball. A soccer ball won't do because it can't bounce high enough. OK great - thank you wise one! At least with Priyanka she gave us Cycles and VdW - far more useful tools and far more relevant. Roulette is a technical game, you know? This advice is more about when to step away from a losing game of Patball: as soon as somebody beats you with a lowcut then step away from that game immediately otherwise you will dig yourself a bigger hole that you can't get out of.
Because of unfair payout, keep playing BlackJack then. 8)
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:32 PM 2016
This why you irrelevant.
Hopefully one day the parasite leaves its host.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 01:32 PM 2016
This is just a distraction. It's not useful information. It's like teaching somebody that to play effective tennis you need a racket and a tennis ball. A soccer ball won't do because it can't bounce high enough. OK great - thank you wise one! At least with Priyanka she gave us Cycles and VdW - far more useful tools and far more relevant. Roulette is a technical game, you know? This advice is more about when to step away from a losing game of Patball: as soon as somebody beats you with a lowcut then step away from that game immediately otherwise you will dig yourself a bigger hole that you can't get out of.
Need learn not lose before learn win. How many time you winning then end loser?
Like said can lead horse water not make drink.
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:39 PM 2016
Need learn not lose before learn win. How many time you winning then end loser?
Like said can lead horse water not make drink.
It has a lot to do with the payout odds vs. probability of winning I reckon. If we bet sleepers over repeaters then we lose more because we are choosing events that pay worse over time. Winning/Losing streaks are a product of that: more losing streaks because our events have a negative edge associated with them. Hence we lose more and we have longer losing streaks. Our decisions cannot help us other than to look at a framework like cycles for limiting combinations and knowing when to enter/exit a game based on the flow of repeats.
Quote from: The General on Jul 16, 01:26 PM 2016
Duh! It's like reading your Pri nonsense.
100% correct General sir.
Falkor said its not useful information but indeed it is. As I have said MANY times, knowing what does not work (or silly reading), how is that not "useful"?
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 01:47 PM 2016
100% correct General sir.
Falkor said its not useful information but indeed it is. As I have said MANY times, knowing what does not work (or silly reading), how is that not "useful"?
Ken
We don't lose more because we keep playing after the first losing spin. If we have positive edge (predictability wins over payout odds and default bias) then we win more and we win in longer streaks, but since by default we have negative edge from the unfair payouts and house edge then we are guaranteed to lose more and lose in longer streaks regardless of any decisions we make in reaction to a winning/losing situation.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 01:35 PM 2016
Hopefully one day the parasite leaves its host.
You right. Sometime parasite useful to host. This time not. Smart host purge.
Irrelevant best ignored.
Falkor you play real or simulation always?
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:56 PM 2016
You right. Sometime parasite useful to host. This time not. Smart host purge.
Irrelevant best ignored.
:twisted: :twisted:
Back to...its not "useful information".
So I post a system... bet on the second column with a "soft" (lol) progression after the 13-18 DS hits. Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.
You happen to love my system, would you say this information is not useful?
Ken
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:59 PM 2016
Falkor you play real or simulation always?
It's the same IMO: bias from different dealers average out over time like how random numbers behave from 0 to 36. The Law of the Third and the Law of Large Numbers apply to both real data and a decent RNG like random.org. My simulators use real data anyways.
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:06 PM 2016
Back to...its not "useful information".
So I post a system... bet on the second column with a "soft" (lol) progression after the 13-18 DS hits. Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.
You happen to love my system, would you say this information is not useful?
Ken
Took long time learn. System not make loser.
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:59 PM 2016
Falkor you play real or simulation always?
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 02:09 PM 2016
It's the same IMO: bias from different dealers average out over time like how random numbers behave from 0 to 36. The Law of the Third and the Law of Large Numbers apply to both real data and a decent RNG like random.org. My simulators use real data anyways.
Disagree simulation no experience make not real. Real bring emotion. That when winner or loser.
Least turbo was mature and smart enough to leave.
Looking for an answer to my question.
Ken
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 02:15 PM 2016
Least turbo was mature and smart enough to leave.
He'll be back. You should kiss the ground he walks on. Why?
Thats simple....he knows more than you and you should LEARN from the people that KNOW MORE THAN YOU instead of fighting them because your ego is over inflated.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:06 PM 2016
Back to...its not "useful information".
So I post a system... bet on the second column with a "soft" (lol) progression after the 13-18 DS hits. Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.
You happen to love my system, would you say this information is not useful?
Ken
I think you need to divide the system up into different events based on your bet selections and evaluate them against the probability and payout odds of each event. It might be that betting columns loses more money in the long run than betting on 2 dozens - based on differing evaluations of those one spin events. And we have been taught that your 2nd column bet is independent of the previous DS hit. That's why our events should be devised over several spins with the "equally likely" part removed. We then need to reduce variance and move towards predictability - dependency can only be created within such a framework (Priyanka hasn't yet revealed the specifics); by default you will have different results over different data sets when you bet a column following a specific DS. It's only a dumb system based on the lack of the aforementioned framework (requires a non-random element like Pigeon Hole Principle) and also choosing events that lose more than others.
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:19 PM 2016
He'll be back. You should kiss the ground he walks on. Why?
Thats simple....he knows more than you and you should LEARN from the people that KNOW MORE THAN YOU instead of fighting them because your ego is over inflated.
Ken
He plays hot numbers
Not hard to learn cowboy.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 02:19 PM 2016
I think you need to divide the system up into different events based on your bet selections and evaluate them against the probability and payout odds of each event. It might be that betting columns loses more money in the long run than betting on 2 dozens - based on differing evaluations of those one spin events. And we have been taught that your 2nd column bet is independent of the previous DS hit. That's why our events should be devised over several spins with the "equally likely" part removed. We then need to reduce variance and move towards predictability - dependency can only be created within such a framework (Priyanka hasn't yet revealed the specifics); by default you will have different results over different data sets when you bet a column following a specific DS. It's only a dumb system based on the lack of the aforementioned framework (requires a non-random element like Pigeon Hole Principle) and also choosing events that lose more than others.
Thats great, two points >>
A) You did not answer my question. Is my information "useful" regarding its a bad system? Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.
B) Who is priyanka?
Ken
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 02:20 PM 2016
He plays hot numbers
Not hard to learn cowboy.
Listen up cowgirl >> So if you had to SUM UP everything that Turbo knows MORE THAN YOU regarding roulette....you have ONE sentence? He plays hot numbers, thats it?
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:29 PM 2016
Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.
This line say much about you MrJ. Not good.
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:29 PM 2016
Thats great, two points >>
A) You did not answer my question. Is my information "useful" regarding its a bad system? Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.
B) Who is priyanka?
Ken
Nope - because you have to understand why it's a bad system from the underlying mechanics.
Priyanka's identity is unknown. Turner knows the real him. I wanted to interview him, but he gave me the silent treatment as he always does. However, he/she did reveal that he's under oath, so I understand the secrecy - part and parcel of being under oath to escape the wrath of the Mafia.
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:31 PM 2016
Listen up cowgirl >> So if you had to SUM UP everything that Turbo knows MORE THAN YOU regarding roulette....you have ONE sentence? He plays hot numbers, thats it?
Ken
A beautiful day
Lobster
Ocean..
You're at the bottom of the list. See ya later
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 02:34 PM 2016
Nope - because you have to understand why it's a bad system from the underlying mechanics.
Priyanka's identity is unknown. Turner knows the real him. I wanted to interview him, but he gave me the silent treatment as he always does. However, he/she did reveal that he's under oath, so I understand the secrecy - part and parcel of being under oath to escape the wrath of the Mafia.
YES or NO...is this "useful information"? >> Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so. Could you RELY on this information BASED ON the column system I posted. I tried to make the system as stupid as possible but the very fact that you actually are half defending it....holy s**t !!! (rofl)
Okay, a member posts...my stupid column system. Myself, Steve, Bayes, Turner, Tamino, General, Buffster, Turbo, all say its a waste of time BUT you happen to like the system. Do you continue on with testing etc.? One of my better questions of the week (lol). Lets see if I get any answers.
Also, Priyanka is a nobody. The sooner you understand that, once again, you'll be moving on. You guys are soooo far behind.
Ken
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 02:37 PM 2016
A beautiful day
Lobster
Ocean..
You're at the bottom of the list. See ya later
So the answer to my question...you DO have ONE item describing the guy? WOW
He knows more than you so listen to him.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:42 PM 2016
YES or NO...is this "useful information"? >> Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so. Could you RELY on this information BASED ON the column system I posted. I tried to make the system as stupid as possible but the very fact that you actually are half defending it....holy s**t !!! (rofl)
Okay, a member posts...my stupid column system. Myself, Steve, Bayes, Turner, Tamino, General, Buffster, Turbo, all say its a waste of time BUT you happen to like the system. Do you continue on with testing etc.? One of my better questions of the week (lol). Lets see if I get any answers.
Also, Priyanka is a nobody. The sooner you understand that, once again, you'll be moving on. You guys are soooo far behind.
Ken
It depends on their graphs - ignatus' graphs never cover enough spins. The majority of a large audience may choose C to a multiple choice question - doesn't mean they collectively know the correct answer.
Priyanka is highly intelligent - but she still has an ego like everyone else, unfortunately, otherwise she wouldn't be under oath and part of the big man's club.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 02:34 PM 2016
Priyanka's identity is unknown. Turner knows the real him. I wanted to interview him, but he gave me the silent treatment as he always does. However, he/she did reveal that he's under oath, so I understand the secrecy - part and parcel of being under oath to escape the wrath of the Mafia.
Turner think know real person. Me think not.
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:42 PM 2016
Also, Priyanka is a nobody. The sooner you understand that, once again, you'll be moving on. You guys are soooo far behind.
Help need MrJ. Good time seek. You become irrelevant like General.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 02:46 PM 2016
It depends on their graphs - ignatus' graphs never cover enough spins. The majority of a large audience may choose C to a multiple choice question - doesn't mean they collectively know the correct answer.
Priyanka is highly intelligent - but she still has an ego like everyone else, unfortunately, otherwise she wouldn't be under oath and part of the big man's club.
Okay, so you're hiding behind the graph, lets leave the graph out of this for now. The names I listed, based on THOSE names....do you continue on with testing/playing a particular system?
Ken
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 02:48 PM 2016
Turner think know real person. Me think not.
Help need MrJ. Good time seek. You become irrelevant like General.
The very fact that you think Priyanka is more intelligent than a house plant, says a ton about you. Sorry buddy. :'(
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:51 PM 2016
Okay, so you're hiding behind the graph, lets leave the graph out of this for now. The names I listed, based on THOSE names....do you continue on with testing/playing a particular system?
Ken
Yep. And keep there advice in the back of my head. And then see why they were right or wrong. Sometimes the best way to learn is by experience. This doesn't mean I would proceed with it for years.
You can tell a kid to not touch fire coz it's hot. He'll do it anyway. But he will know not to touch it again.
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:52 PM 2016
The very fact that you think Priyanka is more intelligent than a house plant, says a ton about you. Sorry buddy. :'(
Ken
When I say I think Priyanka intelligent?
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:52 PM 2016
The very fact that you think Priyanka is more intelligent than a house plant, says a ton about you. Sorry buddy. :'(
Ken
You can disagree with priyanka. But he is more intelligent then most of us. Definitely you thats for sure
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 02:57 PM 2016
When I say I think Priyanka intelligent?
Would you say he (not she) is not?
Ken
Great grandpa is very smart
You dont have to agree with his random thoughts
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 02:57 PM 2016
You can disagree with priyanka. But he is more intelligent then most of us. Definitely you thats for sure
(rofl)...he's not even in the top 30 here (if we include past posters). Jeez RG, really??
Ken
Quote from: denzie on Jul 16, 02:56 PM 2016
Yep. And keep there advice in the back of my head. And then see why they were right or wrong. Sometimes the best way to learn is by experience. This doesn't mean I would proceed with it for years.
You can tell a kid to not touch fire coz it's hot. He'll do it anyway. But he will know not to touch it again.
The guy I dislike the most is the only one who answered (lol). :love:
I dont agree with the answer but no big deal. :embarrassed: You answered, I give credit where its due. >:D
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:02 PM 2016
Would you say he (not she) is not?
Ken
She show
she intelligent. I read all post this forum and other. She not GreatGrampa.
I think priyanka is a dual poster and i think it is a HE not a she
But i also think the intelligence and maturity of him/her is more then the general and mr j combined
Turbo. Priyanka. Turner. Cats like that show intelligence
Mr j and the general show caveman chest bumping intelligence
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 03:11 PM 2016
I think priyanka is a dual poster and i think it is a HE not a she
But i also think the intelligence and maturity of him/her is more then the general and mr j combined
Turbo. Priyanka. Turner. Cats like that show intelligence
Mr j and the general show caveman chest bumping intelligence
You put Turbo and Priyanka in the same group? BTW, will you answer my question? (Denzie did)
Ken
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 03:11 PM 2016
I think priyanka is a dual poster and i think it is a HE not a she
We agree on that. Its a start.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:13 PM 2016
You put Turbo and Priyanka in the same group? BTW, will you answer my question? (Denzie did)
Ken
No
Im saying turbo turner priyanka cats like this show intelligence and maturity
You and the general show the opposite
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:42 PM 2016
YES or NO...is this "useful information"? >> Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so. Could you RELY on this information BASED ON the column system I posted. I tried to make the system as stupid as possible but the very fact that you actually are half defending it....holy s**t !!! (rofl)
Myself, Steve, Bayes, Turner, Tamino, General, Buffster, Turbo,
Myself aka Ken ... in my opinion your a lot of talk with no proof you actually got brains. All your posted system fails. Afterwards calling it D systems is a good move though. At least my losing systems can hold for few 10k to 100k spins. Yours don't even get that far. Better kept your restaurant imo
Steve...I believe this man can get above the he
Bayes...not really sure but he kicks as* in math so the game will not fool him
Turner...I think he doesn't have a winner but I also think he more in this game for other reasons. Math , fysica, ... iow the game won't fool him
Tamino...he's busy with ec and doz . Nope he got nothing just as that Patrick. I'm surprised you never said something to him
. Age thing maybe
General....well he's a douchebag but he's right. Yep he is. But I'm sure the general not agree on your way of playing too.
Bufster. ...not really know the guy
Turbo....he seems to know what he's doing. At least that is what he say. No proof provided yet. Also here the general would or should come in but doesn't. Coz law of the third.....
As for myself. ..no I don't see myself on that list.....I've tried a lot. Ec , doz , progression, ktf , wtf , ...... you name it. I didn't need 6-8 years to know what I've should be doing. Probably coz I've done 6-8 years testing in 6 months. A ton of testing. But that's cool. Coz I told me what I needed.
In my area....if you talk big you need to prove you can. Or you get knocked the f*ck out. Talk is cheap.
One more thing about those shiny buildings. It takes me a big 3 hours to drive diagonally through my country. We got 6 class A and 200 class B casino's. And 85% is in one half. My half. You might be surprised how much I've seen the inside of one.
Never judge a book by his cover
Show one person here (yourself included) with proof of kicking a**? NOT ON PAPER, NOT IN THEORY, NOT RNG, NOT RUMORS etc.
If thats the guideline, there would be maybe 6 posts a day.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:24 PM 2016
Show one person here (yourself included) with proof of kicking a**? NOT ON PAPER, NOT IN THEORY, NOT RNG, NOT RUMORS etc.
How do that?
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:24 PM 2016
If thats the guideline, there would be maybe 6 posts a day.
Ken
But 6 good ones
Quote from: denzie on Jul 16, 03:18 PM 2016
I didn't need 6-8 years to know what I've should be doing.
No no no....this is NOT 6-8 years in the PAST. I say (and I'm sticking to it), you (and most here) have at least 6-8 MORE years ahead of you. Not behind you. You have a long ways to go. Agree with it, dont agree with it, its still correct.
Ken
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 03:28 PM 2016
How do that?
BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO
You tell me. How could a person do that?
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:29 PM 2016
No no no....this is NOT 6-8 years in the PAST. I say (and I'm sticking to it), you (and most here) have at least 6-8 MORE years ahead of you. Not behind you. You have a long ways to go. Agree with it, dont agree with it, its still correct.
Ken
It sure is . In Kenville.
Well this forum is nice and peaceful since a day or two. I wonder why
Quote from: denzie on Jul 16, 03:29 PM 2016
But 6 good ones
Of what? Food blog, betting on a column with a progression after a trigger etc.
Let me ask you this....in the last 4 months, what do you feel are the most "useful" (seems to be the word of the day) threads here?
Ken
Quote from: denzie on Jul 16, 03:36 PM 2016
It sure is . In Kenville.
Well this forum is nice and peaceful since a day or two. I wonder why
The truth is not always pleasant but I'm not here to be your buddy.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:31 PM 2016
BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO
You tell me. How could a person do that?
Ken
I not play Bingo. Not know how play. That what you play MrJ?
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:36 PM 2016
Of what? Food blog, betting on a column with a progression after a trigger etc.
Movie reviews?
Let me ask you this....in the last 4 months, what do you feel are the most "useful" (seems to be the word of the day) threads here?
Nothing I will use .
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:37 PM 2016
The truth is not always pleasant but I'm not here to be your buddy.
Ken
That's for sure. :thumbsup:
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:37 PM 2016
The truth is not always pleasant but I'm not here to be your buddy.
Ken
You say you winner. What here for?
link:s://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/58/b6/fc/58b6fc0fa0ed950c7aef0c4443f301f5.jpg
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 03:43 PM 2016
You say you winner. What here for?
I do "well".
Ken
The question was for *YOU* Denzie. If you want to include movie reviews on YOUR list, thats cool. So in other words, you will NOT list anything very INFORMATIVE from within the last 4 months? There's so much info, I would think it would be quite easy?
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:50 PM 2016
I do "well".
Ken
Question not answer again. Not display much intelligence.
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 03:43 PM 2016
You say you winner. What here for?
To tell us he's the big dog and we're kittens :thumbsup:
Did you know I can drink 20 beers in 5min ? I sure can. Nobody seen it though but I'm the dog . TALK IS CHEAP
Quote from: denzie on Jul 16, 03:54 PM 2016
TALK IS CHEAP
Truthful statement.
I could say I millionaire, but I be lying. I no need gamble but it fun.
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 03:54 PM 2016
Question not answer again. Not display much intelligence.
Are you saying...WINNING
or asking...WINNING?
Are you asking me or telling me, big difference.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 03:53 PM 2016
The question was for *YOU* Denzie. If you want to include movie reviews on YOUR list, thats cool. So in other words, you will NOT list anything very INFORMATIVE from within the last 4 months? There's so much info, I would think it would be quite easy?
Ken
@Denzie >> NOTHING worth mentioning from the last 4 months or so?
If its on the board, its public information so its nothing private.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 04:01 PM 2016
Are you saying...WINNING
or asking...WINNING?
Are you asking me or telling me, big difference.
Ken
Seem you drama queen MrJ, muddy water make attention then tell lies avoid question. You become irrelevant like general. Best ignored.
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 04:05 PM 2016
Seem you drama queen MrJ, muddy water make attention then tell lies avoid question. You become irrelevant like general. Best ignored.
Will you answer my question or not? Are you asking me or telling me....WINNING? You are terrible at changing the subject BTW.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 04:07 PM 2016
Will you answer my question or not? Are you asking me or telling me....WINNING? You are terrible at changing the subject BTW.
Ken
What your question? I never ask or tell you
QuoteWINNING?
Are you asking me or telling me....that I am WINNING? This was *YOUR* word.
I replied that I do "well", remember? How about that nap I mentioned earlier? Everything okay?
Ken
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 03:08 PM 2016She not GreatGrampa.
I guessed he was, and he confirmed it.
That will do me
Quote from: denzie on Jul 16, 03:18 PM 2016Turner...I think he doesn't have a winner but I also think he more in this game for other reasons. Math , fysica, ... iow the game won't fool him
Spot on. very intuative
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 04:04 PM 2016
@Denzie >> NOTHING worth mentioning from the last 4 months or so?
If its on the board, its public information so its nothing private.
Ken
I answered already. It's in red
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 03:43 PM 2016
You say you winner. What here for?
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 04:17 PM 2016
Are you asking me or telling me....that I am WINNING? This was *YOUR* word.
I replied that I do "well", remember? How about that nap I mentioned earlier? Everything okay?
Ken
When I use word?
Quote from: Turner on Jul 16, 04:20 PM 2016
I guessed he was, and he confirmed it.
That will do meSpot on. very intuative
OK. I corrected.
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 04:21 PM 2016
When I use word?
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17196.msg161077#msg161077
Reply 67. Try harder next time to trip me up. You're not very good at this.
Ken
Quote from: denzie on Jul 16, 04:20 PM 2016
I answered already. It's in red
Just so everybody understands.....in the last 4 months here regarding various threads, Denzie the almighty has said, "Nothing I will use" in regards to any USEFUL INFORMATION. Hmmm
All the HG talk? Hmmmm
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 04:26 PM 2016
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17196.msg161077#msg161077
Reply 67. Try harder next time to trip me up. You're not very good at this.
Ken
Reply 67 need reread, you mistaken again.
Winner and
WINNING two different words.
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 04:31 PM 2016
Just so everybody understands.....in the last 4 months here regarding various threads, Denzie the almighty has said, "Nothing I will use" in regards to any USEFUL INFORMATION. Hmmm
All the HG talk? Hmmmm
Ken
I'm starting to think your mentally ill. You got an altar in your mom's basement? With my pics and knives and stuff ? Something seriously wrong with you ? Did you got beat up to much as a nerd or something?
It's actually you who are making a fool of yourself. Well .... thx
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 04:32 PM 2016
Reply 67 need reread, you mistaken again. Winner and WINNING two different words.
Tell me you have more than THAT please? You are basing your future arguing career with me on...WINNING and WINNER? (rofl) :twisted:
Ken
Quote from: denzie on Jul 16, 04:36 PM 2016
I'm starting to think your mentally ill. You got an altar in your mom's basement? With my pics and knives and stuff ? Something seriously wrong with you ? Did you got beat up to much as a nerd or something?
It's actually you who are making a fool of yourself. Well .... thx
Nope, just calling you out on your BS. "nothing I will use"...which includes all talk (last 4 months) of HG bulls**t. Any threads your crew may have started..."nothing I will use".
Ok, I got it.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 04:40 PM 2016
Tell me you have more than THAT please? You are basing your future arguing career with me on...WINNING and WINNER? (rofl) :twisted:
Ken
You showing you stupid again. Original question reply 67
QuoteYou say you winner. What here for?
I never ask if you winning.
I'm happy you've got it. Now move on big doggy .
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 04:45 PM 2016
You showing you stupid again. Original question I never ask if you winning.
...and I said I do "well". Now lets start all over again. Ask me again...I say I do "well"...then ask me again (lol). Do you need a re-fill on that tea? :wink:
This is a VERY OLD TACTIC (and boring). Its trying to confuse your opponent by asking the same question but in various forms, cops do this a lot. You're not very good at it.
Ken
Leave it Dimsun. He has the mentality of a 6 year old. Always needs the last word. Yesterday I made a bet on that. He stopped at 8 replies. I said 10. Damn .
Give him that. Then he will get that warm winning feeling .coz it ain't happening on the wheel.
Cheers K
So happy your back with your wisdom
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 04:49 PM 2016
...and I said I do "well". Now lets start all over again. Ask me again...I say I do "well"...then ask me again (lol). Do you need a re-fill on that tea? :wink:
This is a VERY OLD TACTIC (and boring). Its trying to confuse your opponent by asking the same question but in various forms, cops do this a lot. You're not very good at it.
Ken
MrJ MrJ you really showing your intelligence. Reply 67 need be read very slowly. Might then understand question. If you confused get help.
Quote from: denzie on Jul 16, 04:54 PM 2016
Leave it Dimsun. He has the mentality of a 6 year old. Always needs the last word. Yesterday I made a bet on that. He stopped at 8 replies. I said 10. Damn .
Give him that. Then he will get that warm winning feeling .coz it ain't happening on the wheel.
Cheers K
So happy your back with your wisdom
You talk s**t Douche Denzie regarding getting in the last word but HERE YOU ARE AGAIN...commenting. You cant help yourself bro. :yawn:
Ken
you win when you know WHY you win and you lose because whatever you play is not good enough..
Quote from: maestro on Jul 16, 07:27 PM 2016
you win when you know WHY you win and you lose because whatever you play is not good enough..
What was you drinking?
;)
Cheers
Denzie,
Why are you attacking Mr. J ? It appears as though you even went as far as to follow him to the GF in order to continue trolling him. Why?
Quote from: The General on Jul 24, 09:34 PM 2016
Denzie,
as far as to follow him to the GF in order to continue trolling him.
The irony. Mister troll every roulette forum like a loser
RG ignore that recruit. I'm not surprised he's buddies with mentally ill people ::)
If we bet on the number the ball lands on we win... If the ball lands somewhere else, we loose. Simples. It turned into a 7 page whinge before someone pointed out the obvious?
Maybe some people need to step back and have a couple days off