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Title: HI-Jack
Post by: ignatus on Jun 19, 11:39 PM 2016
Procedure: For each hit place 2 numbers within the street hit on the 2 unhit numbers within that particular street hit, until 5 streets are bet (10 numbers) Stop and Restart at any hit. When 10 numbers are bet (5 streets) place 2u on the 7 remaining unhit streets and double once, now double bets for each loss until hit.

I made a video link:s://youtu.be/TJcF-gs53n0

First tests was played with 5u bets, (wingoal +500, stoploss -1000u)

Bankroll needed
1u bets 200u
5u bets 1000u
etc

10/10 Games won
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Tomla021 on Jun 20, 12:09 AM 2016
nice one ignatus
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: ignatus on Jun 20, 12:14 AM 2016
Quote from: Tomla021 on Jun 20, 12:09 AM 2016
nice one ignatus

Thanks ;)
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: ignatus on Jun 20, 03:30 AM 2016
19/20 Games won
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: dimsun on Jun 20, 03:41 AM 2016
Very busy beaver ignatius.  Good work.
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: NextYear on Jun 20, 04:17 AM 2016
Those are some interesting numbers, thanks!
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Bettingking on Jun 20, 07:12 AM 2016
Yes seems to work well.
If it repeats on a number or zero I guess you can then choose another street to place a further 2 chips if in the first 5 spins.
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: ignatus on Jun 20, 09:59 AM 2016
Test 3.

26/30 games won, That's a 87% winrate. Now, playing with 1u bets and having a 500u bankroll would improve those odds a bit... still im satisfied with these results
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Still on Jun 20, 10:01 PM 2016
Looks like average win was $600 and average loss was $1500.  So...

26 x 600 = 15, 600
  3 x 1500=  4,500
     _____________
=               11,100

I didn't count the spins. Seems significant.

But when starting with a stop:target ratio of 3:1,  i would think breakeven is up between 70+% win rate. 

Anyways, thanks for the efforts. I hope this keeps going. 

Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Redherring on Jun 21, 11:05 PM 2016
Have been playing this with a demo account but rather than betting on unhit streets after the first 10 numbers, just start again.

So if playing 1u flat always bet on the 2 unhit street numbers, but I also bet on repeats and 0 to a maximum of 10u... And start again if the next number doesn't win so always betting from 2u-10u

Haven't got any evidence of progress but would be interesting to see a comparison.
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Redherring on Jun 22, 10:41 AM 2016
1k in 8 minutes using 10u flatbet. Don't fix what isn't broke  :twisted:

link:s://vimeo.com/171764282
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Redherring on Jun 22, 10:50 AM 2016
Quote from: Redherring on Jun 22, 10:41 AM 2016
1k in 8 minutes using 10u flatbet. Don't fix what isn't broke  :twisted:

link:s://vimeo.com/171764282

Also tried 32red, demo mode 100,000 cash... 100u per bet, ended with 130,000  :xd:
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: ignatus on Jun 22, 11:06 AM 2016
Thanks for testing Redherring  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: dennisbelle on Jun 22, 11:23 AM 2016
Redherring,
   In your video you bet 10 units on the numbers straight up but you bet 30 units on the streets.  Does that seem to work better than betting 20 units on the streets for your initial street bets?
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Redherring on Jun 22, 11:59 AM 2016
Quote from: dennisbelle on Jun 22, 11:23 AM 2016
Redherring,
   In your video you bet 10 units on the numbers straight up but you bet 30 units on the streets.  Does that seem to work better than betting 20 units on the streets for your initial street bets?

20 on streets breaks even/small loss, 3 x on streets make it a bit more even. Would still double up each loss, just haven't needed to yet.
I also play repeaters which seems to work ok.
If only this would be coded on RX, would be interesting to see 1000 spins etc and it would save a lot of mouse clicking  :twisted:
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Redherring on Jun 23, 01:39 PM 2016
had another dabble, i like this one  8)

only real flaw is betting on the streets and its more of a 'safe' bet to end the run and start a fresh, regardess if you do 2u or 3u. this time, no streets. when you get to 10 numbers, just stick to them with a progression of +1u each spin (10u 20u 30u 40u etc etc). this is ok if you have enough bank and balls to stick it out  ;D this time i didnt have to go more than a 3rd spin (30u) and when i started a new game and did it again, i didnt go over 50u (5 x repeat). much quicker progress than playing without streets too.

2k in 9 mins demo at paddypower

link:s://vimeo.com/171973433
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Lucky7Red on Jun 23, 02:27 PM 2016
Danke maan :)
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: ignatus on Jun 23, 02:53 PM 2016
Nice... seems to be almost too fantastic to be true, i was lucky with this one and Kingpin,...perhaps it can work...with proper moneymanagement...progression is always a risk...playing with smaller stakes and a stoploss is a good idea...real play i don't know, my tests was done with live-spins...don't know about RNG...

Anyway, thanks again for testing, see how long this lucky streak will continue, perhaps try live wheels?
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Redherring on Jun 23, 03:02 PM 2016
ill keep going with it anyway, i havent lost a game yet in terms of loosing all of the balance, but i have got bored a few times where the balance stuck around the same figure for a while. im sure with more spins it mightve been ok, but i can only take so much  :twisted: but if you look at your original charts, its the same... if you had continued on your losses, maybe they wouldve been ok in the long run?

am testing with RNG purely cos its almost instant, 9 mins RNG would be hours on a live wheel?!
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: ignatus on Jun 23, 03:04 PM 2016
Alright, 
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Redherring on Jun 23, 04:40 PM 2016
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 19, 11:39 PM 2016
Procedure: For each hit place 2 numbers within the street hit on the 2 unhit numbers within that particular street hit, until 5 streets are bet (10 numbers) Stop and Restart at any hit. When 10 numbers are bet (5 streets) place 2u on the 7 remaining unhit streets and double once, now double bets for each loss until hit.

I made a video link:s://youtu.be/TJcF-gs53n0

First tests was played with 5u bets, (wingoal +500, stoploss -1000u)

Bankroll needed
1u bets 200u
5u bets 1000u
etc

10/10 Games won


just realised ive been doing this slightly wrong which would explain the losses on betting on streets!

When 10 numbers are bet (5 streets) place 2u on the 7 remaining unhit streets and double once, now double bets for each loss until hit.

ive been betting on the 10 numbers, and when loose, repeat bet and 2u on remaning unhit streets  :-X
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Redherring on Jun 26, 07:01 PM 2016
Didn't play live but these are numbers from a live wheel. To place bets on the streets when you get to 10 numbers as the original method (5 bets without repeaters or 0) would loose out on a few wins, but to to it my way which is 10 numbers without streets then rebet 10 with streets (6 bets without repeaters or 0) would've been quite good here so far

(link:://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh470/mic8310/54ED757A-1DA2-4429-9342-84C68DD725C4_zps4eibhw3f.png)
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Redherring on Jul 01, 04:20 PM 2016
Have done his manually so there's always chance of error but if I've done it right (who knows  :xd: ) by using the numbers taken from here

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17235.msg160156;topicseen#msg160156

And playing the way as described in the original first post EXCEPT playing repeat numbers, I have interesting results. I didn't count up ££, just what I'd consider a win or loss. A win would be a ball on a number, a loss on a street (so a win could be from 2u bet to a total of 30u spent in bets overall - so profit range of 6u - 34u per win)
Loss of land on a street I think was 6u (or was it 12u?!)

17 wins
7 losses



Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: ignatus on Jul 01, 04:41 PM 2016
Thanks for testing Redherring  :)
Title: Re: HI-Jack
Post by: Redherring on Jul 01, 04:47 PM 2016
No problem. Re-reading what I wrote, my maths are shocking. But it still stands won more than lost  :twisted: