I am going to take a break from Random Thoughts and move onto testing GUT based on the rules outlined in the eBook.
Do any experienced GUT players have any advice on what rules work best for maximizing win potential besides what's covered in the eBook?
Don't see how you're going to test GUT.
Why not work on the trot. Work on the breakdowns of 13,25,37, if you get this far then 50.
What is the way to win in spins 14 -25, does 7/8 0X come more often or would it be 50/50?
Look at yesterday Grosvenor, watch the trot against countback, you now the expected in 30 spins
A start for you.
Look how the 0X follow countback ,11,12,13,14,15 on time 16th early, its a guide, helps make a decision whilst you're watching
It seems impossible to win every trot, so that's why winkel jumps back if a permutation turns bad, right?
He jumps back when he can not make clear decision.
Jump can be 1 spin (which can change the look of trott), or more...
I have great success with level bets instead of flat bets. If I'm in a fast trott and have a crossing where I bet unhits I bet more units. Same is true with the other categories depending on if they are fast.
I'm going to start coding this shortly. My simulator will be using Google Graphs in HTML to show every time a crossing is in sight and after the crossing has passed. I will be following the rules based on the ebook and testing mainly the dispersion surfing technique - could be more effective than the crossings themselves.
Also, I have my own test I want carry out based on the strong possibility that crossings are Non-Random; I plan to play all crossings and then log the winning ones in a PHP framework of "crossings cycles". I then want to see if that framework produces any elegant patterns. Finally, if GUT works then I will port it to Lines in order to speed up the crossings appearing.
I am only going to use R N F F2 FG2 for now, as I want my cycles to only be 4 outcomes. This is a big project for me.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 22, 04:53 PM 2016This is a big project for me.
Good for you, hope the out come is good :thumbsup:
Please keep in mind that bets on the higher categories (2x, 3x, 4x) have the best payout ratio. Limiting to strong will minimize your profits.
I know I asked Turner to ban me from posting... But this I couldn't keep it to myself.
For those using the tracker with the ebook....
I know what I saw and I know what the numbers were..
There is a video on you tube proving me wrong.
I watched someone play with that tracker and it has bugs...
So please be careful when playing with that tracker...
I don't think there is a bug.
I use it regularely without problems.
Rolletti,
I have played with Gut inside out since January of 2014.
I love playing with number's. They give me a strive.
How long has your book and tracker been out?
If I wanted to discredit you I would have done in on day 1.
However, today was different.
I am sure everyone will agree, it was better to be warned instead of me claiming after that I saw the bug.
I am hoping you can accept this as an answer from me.
I am not here to argue with you, In your earlier post you said "User error". I am a programmer myself. In order to cover my butt I use that .
However, here it's different people losing their money.
There are free gut trackers
This guys probably in greece
This is what greek posters do
Dont buy this
Stop this nonsense falkor
I believe normy has a free tracker
Winkel has a Q and A thread
This ninkumpoop threw around the copyright word and he got the method from winkel
Oh the irony
Winkel is the man to speak to and to speak about. not this e book
All it is, is a conspiracy among CERTAIN members to make money
I have a very good idea who was behind it but ill keep that quiet
If it works so well they dont need ebook money
Quote from: winkel on Jun 30, 01:59 PM 2016Sirs,I read some quotes of "roletti" using this tracker.I wanna express: I found some misleading and falty declarations in the way GUT is played.Pls don´t use this software it is leading you wrong.
I can't post the quote here but follow the link and read it... It was Said on June 30th as well software has an issue.
Its some guy, who has multiple aliases, in cahoots with other members here
He took a few nights to write a book, ripping off winkel to make money
Screw him.
Here is link to quote:
link:://queaziest4.rssing.com/chan-3814694/all_p237.html
Quote from: Azim on Aug 24, 04:35 PM 2016
I know I asked Turner to ban me from posting... But this I couldn't keep it to myself.
For those using the tracker with the ebook....
I know what I saw and I know what the numbers were..
There is a video on you tube proving me wrong.
I watched someone play with that tracker and it has bugs...
So please be careful when playing with that tracker...
Azim I think defamation is against the law in Canada too.
The user you "watched playing" is tuddilue and
he assured you that the issue with the tracker was a user error.
He just did not notice that he scrolled out the rows by accident.
So I have no clue why you still talk it down.
The attached screenshot of our email communication proofs that.
The other issue I want to address is the book. It was created in adherence to the German Copyright and Citation Law.
link:s://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zitat#Deutschland
Winkel has been attributed as the inventor of GUT and all the quotations have been cited according to the rules.
A very massive part of the book is my own creation with explanations and graphics.
The book even contains many links to free tracker tool, but my customer's feedback says that mine is the best.
Who is happy with these ones should use them:
Track4.exe link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=
Track3.exe link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=176
Track2.exe link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=168
Excel GUT tracker link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=188
KFS' G.U.T. tracker link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=198
GUTCBA link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=273
Norcosoft tracker link:://betselection.cc/norcosoft/gut-tracker-ew-clicker-for-european-wheel/msg1488/#msg1488
Randy Jones
Gutroulett, it appears you are using a proxy, and multiple usernames. You know youre allowed to sell stuff, just in the right section. Sales material outside the sales area will be removed, and wont be allowed anywhere. So please adhere to the rules. As for multiple usernames, please choose one and stick to it.
I will give credit where it's due.
Posting the links of all trackers as you claim in your e-book is showing good will on your part.
Quote from: Gutroulett on Aug 25, 04:06 AM 2016
Winkel has been attributed as the inventor of GUT and all the quotations have been cited according to the rules.
Randy Jones
Wouldn´t it be fair to give to me 1 example for free?
Would be a gesture!
Would be culture!
Quote from: winkel on Aug 25, 07:37 AM 2016
Wouldn´t it be fair to give to me 1 example for free?
Would be a gesture!
Would be culture!
Hes threatened falkor with copyright infringement for using a photo
So funny!!
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 24, 09:59 PM 2016
Its some guy, who has multiple aliases, in cahoots with other members here
He took a few nights to write a book, ripping off winkel to make money
Screw him.
GUT is not profitable: Randy cannot make much money from selling an ebook on GUT compared to all the hours of work he put in, so in the end he lose - out of his own passion.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 25, 10:50 AM 2016
GUT is not profitable
Do you think, that a strategy complicated as GUT would survive 10 years if it wasn´t a grail?
Years ago you spilled buckets of mud on GUT and on me. Pls do not start again.
Quote from: winkel on Aug 25, 02:28 PM 2016
Do you think, that a strategy complicated as GUT would survive 10 years if it wasn´t a grail?
Years ago you spilled buckets of mud on GUT and on me. Pls do not start again.
On a forum some people must be ignored
Took me 4 years to learn that
I've now been given the all clear on my health... so we're going to put GUT to the ultimate test once and for all... long overdue! Why wait another 10, 20 years? The time has come.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 25, 04:55 PM 2016
I've now been given the all clear on my health... so we're going to put GUT to the ultimate test once and for all... long overdue! Why wait another 10, 20 years? The time has come.
Sometimes I really wonder who you are talking to.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 25, 04:55 PM 2016
I've now been given the all clear on my health... so we're going to put GUT to the ultimate test once and for all... long overdue! Why wait another 10, 20 years? The time has come.
Im sure members and lurkers alike will understand your testing of GUT
I was thinking of this pdf+tracker as Gutroulette has done. It is really a summary of all things that is on different forums that winkel already has written. For me that is a good summary, but I really feel that this should have been done together with winkel. Because it is really his words.
I like the tracker, just because it is a graphical one. I'm more a graphical guy than number guy. But I use the tracker4 now and also more trackers for gut. I think they work as well when you know gut. But for me they are a bit more advanced gut.
I'm a newbie of gut and I really like to play it. I usually play it together with WTF. Why? I just enjoy that way of playing. I'm still learning about the crossings and statistics and that is the reason I like gut. You can always learn new things. Is it HG I dont know. But in the end I won more than lost...
So if we talk about the pdf I really hope Randy gives credit to winkel. Split the earnings or at least give winkel a copy. That he asks before in this thread.
So that is my answer to Gutroulette. I recommend people to read the forums instead because that is free. The trackers you can always use others...
- Tuddilue
Deleted Falkor
We dont need your views on people, so they get upset, then we have a feud
Stick to "what ever it is you do" without getting personal
Quote from: Turner on Aug 26, 09:09 AM 2016
Deleted Falkor
We dont need your views on people, so they get upset, then we have a feud
Stick to "what ever it is you do" without getting personal
You are representing the thought gestapo, well done Turner!
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Aug 26, 10:49 AM 2016
You are representing the thought gestapo, well done Turner!
I thought you had left
Quote from: Turner on Aug 26, 11:00 AM 2016
I thought you had left
Why, where else could I find better jokes in one place!
Hi All
someone know where I can find gutcba ?
Thanks!