Hi All,
I have been testing a new system.
Basically the system involves betting off one number which is number 17!! (So whenever 17 hits i start betting)
I alway bet with the same 12 numbers and only bet to a max of 8 spins!
I.e 17 hits, i now place 12 bets on 12 different numbers, and keep playing then 12 numbers over the next 8 spins! If one of the numbers hit i win and stop, then wait for 17 to hit again! if it does pass 8 spins i stop and again wait for 17 to hit, i then bet the 12 numbers again over 8 spins but you larger stakes.
What is strange thou is yes it does pass 8 spins sometimes, but once it loses once it never loses a second time!
I have tested over 7500 spins (Live Roulette) with 17 coming out 211 times and everytime it loses it has never lost on the second round!
Any ideas?
Hi,
And where you place your bets? Which numbers and how many chips per number at the beginning?
Cheers
Why 17 ? Why not just any number ? That would cut off the waiting.
Quote from: Gzgzbee on Jul 04, 05:41 PM 2016
I alway bet with the same 12 numbers and only bet to a max of 8 spins!
12 numbers 8 spins big loss no hit.
Hi,
Progression is
Wait 4 spins, then bet
0.25p X 12
0.50p X 12
0.75p X 12
£1.00 X 12
If it goes pass 8 spins! Wait for 17 to hit again then play!
£2 X 12
£4 X 12
£6 X 12
Etc...
Point is why does it alway win after you have had a round over 8 spins!?
The money is made on the second round as I know it will win...it actually wins on the next 2 rounds.
Why!!!? 7500spins, 17 came out 211 time all wins.
Nice profit. So you didn't got passed the second round ?
And what if you gotta hit while waiting those 4 spins ? Reset ?
7500:37=202
17 should come in 202 times in 7500 spins, so your result is slightly about expectation, but within normal deviation.
You bet 8 times 12 numbers. 8*12=96
thats the same as would you bet 1 number for 96 times.
average is 1 number should show up once every 37 spins. So its quite normal to hit more often than not.
Its just a matter of bad luck until you get bitten and a matter of how big your balls are and how high you would increase your progression.
Bet selection is not counts, almost equally well you can play dozens.
Counts progression in your case.
We are waiting 4 of virtual lost, and we use progression
1
2
3
4
8
16
24
32
Next we lose, this is our stop lose
Now you can simulate whether such a progression is likely to succeed in long run.
Hi All,
How I play is
Wait four spins then bet.
0.25p X 12 numbers
0.50p X 12 numbers
0.75p X 12 numbers
£1.00 X 12 number
If it comes in at spin 1-4 I reset and wait for 17 to show again!
Approx profit is £7 when I do get a hit!
Lose on 4 spins is only £30.
But when it loses it always win on the second and third round of betting.
With this in mind I bet all of the 8 spins with £2 start units.
£2 X 12 numbers.
£4
£6
£8
£12
£18
£26
£40
Approx profit is £50.
Based on my 7500 spins with 211 shows of 17
It only lost the first round 11 times.
But always won the next two round.
So as I'm waiting for 4 spins some profit will be missed due to a win on 1 - spins.
Say I won half of the 211 bets.
= 105
Minus 11 losers.
= 94 winners
For every loser I know that two rounds of winner will follow.
11 X 2 = 22 (winning rounds)
94 misus 22 = 72 (first round winners)
72 winners X £7 profit
= £505
Minus 11 losers X £30
=£175
Plus 22 second/third winners (approx profit is £50)
22 X £50 = £1100 + £175
= £1275 profit.
Not enough bets, your progression is too long and very risky.
Took 141 spins for a #17 to come, then like buses another 3 came in 15 spins
I totally endorse this system 100% - it's the dogs' bollocks! I've even invited the inventor to write the foreword to my new book being published July 17th! May you all be progressively richer and wealthier--cheers! O0
Why wait for 17?
Same as betting any 12 numbers for 8 spins?
Sitting here bored
I opened up ignatus' euro wheel spins in the real spins section
After 4 virtual losses i started betting my 12 random numbers
It works. For how long though?
QuoteIt works. For how long though?
Until it doesn't.
Quote from: The General on Jul 05, 10:59 PM 2016
Until it doesn't.
Don't need your input.
Never did. Never will.
Big boys and girls here. we understand nothing is a given in roulette and losses will occur. Smart players overcome or limit losses
Never need your input. You're wastin your time cowboy
Quote from: The General on Jul 05, 10:59 PM 2016
Until it doesn't.
Nothing good say, wise man keep mouth shut, stupid prove stupid open mouth.
:-O
Dont normally comment if it doesnt agree with me but betting just 17?
Surely it doesnt need pointing out to realise it makes no sense.
Having said that, Steves applauds are 17 and smites are -17 :o
It only takes one persistent and motivated person to add lots of smites. Its petty but i don't care.
Quote from: Steve on Jul 06, 05:04 AM 2016
It only takes one persistent and motivated person to add lots of smites. Its petty but i don't care.
My smites are growing daily. -19 lol
I take it very seriously, wearing a hair shirt and beating my back with a hickory branch
Sorry . Won't do it anymore. But not any less also :girl_to:
Just kidding. Same here..... perhaps take that kindergarten stuff away...then they need go look for a new hobby
Ok ok lady's!!
I do have another system thou! And again I have tested this over 8000 spins autowheel (jackpot247.com) approx 180 hours of game play!
Last night I test a 10 spin system!
12 numbers over 10 spins.
Pick 12 numbers and always bet off them 12 when one of the 12 numbers show.
Again same rules...
If it goes passed 10 spins stop, wait for that number which was the tigger number to bet to show again and up your stakes to cover the lose.
Again wait 5 bet 5 on the first round.
Start with 0.25p
Then it that goes passed 10 spins
On the second and third round bet
Start at £1 and bet alway 10 spins.
Last night results.
8000spins
1700 of the 12 numbers showed
Had one lose twice which would of cost £1700 in loses.
1700/2 (as only betting on last 5 number not all 10)
850 wins X £7 (approx profit)
= £5950
-£1700 loss
= total profit £4250.
If you had play his system for 8 hours a day over 22 day you would have had £4250 profit in the bank!!!
I was told about this system by a friend and I don't actually believe it but....it win thou!
Its only lost once in 8000spins auto-wheel.
Wow nice. Enjoy the easy life :wink:
Btw if I would get 10k for each time I tested something over that amount of spins and win . And then lose it all....... I was rich :(
Haha..
I'm actually hoping what someone can prove me wrong thou and say no based on the mathes it should lose every 5000 spins.
Going to test it for 50,000 spins and see what happenes.
Live spins not RNG!
If it got to 50,000 and made profit and didn't lose another round would be agree this might be a winner!?
Quote from: Gzgzbee on Jul 06, 07:42 AM 2016
If it got to 50,000 and made profit and didn't lose another round would be agree this might be a winner!?
A normal person would say good job on the win and good strategy
An illogical person would say that those results did not matter because it does not give the player an edge
Quote from: Gzgzbee on Jul 06, 07:42 AM 2016
If it got to 50,000 and made profit and didn't lose another round would be agree this might be a winner!?
Almost ;D
I think some of the math guys will easily calculate this.... Bayes , Turner , Drazen ,....
Evening all,
Right...950 spins tested tonight
Autowheel jackpot247.com (20 hours of play)
Profit: £235.00
Two first round losers, but followed by the a second/third round winner.
😁😁😁
Trigger > wait 5 paper trade > bet 5 more steps > if no hit wait for trigger again > bet 10 steps > so total 15 steps progression?
Quote from: Turner on Jul 06, 05:15 AM 2016
My smites are growing daily. -19 lol
I take it very seriously, wearing a hair shirt and beating my back with a hickory branch
Low number smite mean not offending General. More smite mean more right. General show he stupid.
Quote from: dimsun on Jul 06, 09:12 PM 2016
Low number smite mean not offending General. More smite mean more right. General show he stupid.
Not stupid
Just an extremely narrow minded, im right you are wrong, kind of condescending shmuck
Settle down, actually I think you have him wrong. Many people have me wrong too like I do NOT think "roulette computers" are the only way to beat roulette. Whoever says this isnt reading. I simply say the only way to win is by "increasing accuracy of predictions". And there are actually many ways to do this. But the most obvious and proven is plain physics. This doesnt just mean computers.
With "General", he's basically saying the same thing. Attack the wheel and physics to predict the winning number - to change the odds of winning. There's no other way to win roulette except to increase accuracy of predictions. It has nothing to do with what I think, or what I'm selling. It is just plain REALITY that if the odds are 1 in 37 and you are paid below 1 in 36 (because you get back the winning bet), then you NEED to have better odds of winning.
Whether you use precognition, pull a rabbit out of hat and ask it, choose a random number or whatever doesnt matter - as long as you are increasing your ODDS of winning. Me or General saying this doesnt make us arrogant. And RG you've had a go at him more than he's had a go at you. He appears like an asshole and condescending because he gets attacked when just trying to help. And then he turns into a condescending asshole because he's attacked. It doesn't start this way.
But anyway, there is now a "safe zone" in which people can believe whatever they want, without being told they're incorrect.
Yep spot on!
Do you use the same 12 or always change them.
Today had 180 spins on mutiplayer.
25 spins 17 is in, i'd place 17's 6 neighbours,left and right, 1 spin,#25 win.
58 spins after the win, 17 hits again, i'd bet its neighbours, 7 spins #19 win.
8 spins after the win, 17 hits, bet its neighbours, 6 spins #27 win.
17 never came again.
Notto,
Best to play the 10 spins system.
More tigger numbers
More profits.
Read page 2 post
Evening all!
Today 900 spins (live auto-wheel)
20 hours game time.
Profit = £197
Two first round losers, both won on the second/third rounds.
Total spins now 9700 live autowheel.
Evening all,
Today 350 spins (live autowheel)
Should have had 1000 spins but video crash...grrrr!!
7.5 hours of play!
Profit = £50.00
Again two 1st round loser....both won on the second/third rounds.
Going to be away...soo will not update after tomorrow.
Quote from: Steve on Jul 07, 01:16 AM 2016
I simply say the only way to win is by "increasing accuracy of predictions". And there are actually many ways to do this. But the most obvious and proven is plain physics. This doesnt just mean computers.
People loves to discover NEW and find excitement in LIFE. I believe in physics which could exactly describe/calculate how should the ball is being exactly dropped.
I also do believe in looking at different point of view will always discover a NEW (either excitement or shit).
For me, I believe in using "uncommon" to find the "common".
Dimsun,
You remind me of the poster by the name of Thelaw. Are you the same poster?
Quote from: The General on Jul 08, 10:50 PM 2016
Dimsun,
You remind me of the poster by the name of Thelaw. Are you the same poster?
You are miles out. Around 7400 miles out.
Dim sun has used lots and lots of IPs in a similar range. All China.
I have other reasons to know its not Law aswell
QuoteLow number smite mean not offending General. More smite mean more right. General show he stupid.-Dimsun
But, Dimsun show he illiterate.
Im Back!!!
Up to 17,000 Live roulette spins now!
Since my last post of 10,000 spins....another 7000 without a loser!
Last light did 1000 spins (23 Hours) which was £260 profit from a bank of £1700!
Danxun`s real name might be Une Bal hung too lo
Quote from: Gzgzbee on Jul 04, 05:41 PM 2016
Hi All,
I have been testing a new system.
Basically the system involves betting off one number which is number 17!! (So whenever 17 hits i start betting)
I alway bet with the same 12 numbers and only bet to a max of 8 spins!
I.e 17 hits, i now place 12 bets on 12 different numbers, and keep playing then 12 numbers over the next 8 spins! If one of the numbers hit i win and stop, then wait for 17 to hit again! if it does pass 8 spins i stop and again wait for 17 to hit, i then bet the 12 numbers again over 8 spins but you larger stakes.
What is strange thou is yes it does pass 8 spins sometimes, but once it loses once it never loses a second time!
I have tested over 7500 spins (Live Roulette) with 17 coming out 211 times and everytime it loses it has never lost on the second round!
Any ideas?
now whilst waiting for # 17 to come in, doesn't LOTT show 24 on average will show and 13 never to come in 37 spins, so you might be there all day waiting.
Do you think wait for 25 of the 37 to come and then bet the remaining un-hit.
In J247 avg document waiting for the 26th non-hit has taken a max of 12 spins in 204 games, passing the 8th spin only 4 times :thumbsup:
I was wondering if any of the Math Guys would help!?
The odds of 12 numbers out of 37 not showing in 10 spins is: (If I am right)
37/25 x10 (x10 = To the Power of 10) = 50.42
But what are the odds of this happening twice in a row BUT with the same number?
I.e say my 12 "special" numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12
If number "1" comes out I bet 10 spins that include the above 12 "special" number and hope one of the number hit within 10 spins.
If none of them numbers come out the odds should be as above i.e 50/1 change.
What i would like to know is what are the odds of next time when number "1" lands that none of the above "special" will show again over 10 spins?
Thanks
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 28, 09:37 AM 2016
now whilst waiting for # 17 to come in, doesn't LOTT show 24 on average will show and 13 never to come in 37 spins, so you might be there all day waiting.
Do you think wait for 25 of the 37 to come and then bet the remaining un-hit.
In J247 avg document waiting for the 26th non-hit has taken a max of 12 spins in 204 games, passing the 8th spin only 4 times :thumbsup:
Just done the above on the unbelieveable spins on multi player
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 28, 09:37 AM 2016
Do you think wait for 25 of the 37 to come and then bet the remaining un-hit.
In J247 avg document waiting for the 26th non-hit has taken a max of 12 spins in 204 games, passing the 8th spin only 4 times :thumbsup:
Max 12 spins. How you overcome this ?
Den this 1st
just played this on multi player, normy was there so he see the #'s.
Look 9,+4 then 15th 0x is in by spin 27 ridiculous ,so kept at the repeats. Got 29 in 60 usual result.
Went for the remaining 12#'s after 41st spin, came in 3 spins.
Can cover 9 spins with 1,1,2,3,4,10,20,30,40 but thats for units of .20p in bookies, so b+m must be able to go 12
Denzie have you looked at average document, just look at 25th gone looks ok
Yes I looked at it. Going passed those 12 spins seems extremely rare. But your progression is not quite correct, right ? Or how do you see it ? (Maybe if not hit in first few attempts try to minimise damage)
Another 1000 spins! (24 hours)
Profit = £181 profit!
Total spins 18,000!
Now up to 6 day worth of recording without a break/gap in results. 144 hours straight.
Bank roll is £1700 but imagine what £3000 would do!? £324!!!
Den just remembered to see if betting for the 26th would win on todays J247.com, Yes 1 spin
Another 24 hours!!
£184 profit! 1000 spins!
19,000 live spins in total now!
50,000 is the target!
If I get to 50,000 with on one lose...would anything agree this could be keeper!?
any video backing your claim Gzgzbee?
Is Gzgzbee hoping the dust settles on this,as he posts good results, Jackpot 247.com just betting for the 26th 0x is winning