This is a 30 numbers bet, with martingale progression. Sounds crazy perhaps, but i had good results so far....
consider these groups
Doz 1 RED
Doz 2 RED
Doz 3 RED
and
Doz 1 BLACK
Doz 2 BLACK
Doz 3 BLACK
TRIGGER- Wait until one of these groups hit 2 times (RED- or BLACK-groups, *6 numbers*) They don't have to hit 2 times in a row, (but just in sequence 2 hits, and no other hits within the other groups of the same color).
Now, when you got a trigger you bet the OTHER two dozens of the same color;
for an example Doz 1 RED hit two times, now you bet Doz 2,3 RED (12 numbers) ALSO bet 12u on the opposite color, in this case 12u on BLACK...
Progression; Double bets for each loss. I've never gone beyond 1-2-4 from my first tests.
Furthermore, use martingale for 30 numbers progressionline 1-2-4-8-16 etc WHEN HIT go one step to the left in the progressionline for the next bet;
For an example, you win on 1-2-4 (4u), then next bet will be 2u on all straight ups, and 24u on the opposite color.
First tests was played with 1u bets
5/5 Games won
I like it Ignatus !!!!!!!
10/10 Games won!! :love: :love:
Highest step in progression was 1-2-4-8 (That is 5 repeats of the same 6 numbers and/or zero)
To be honest i get a f*cking nevous breakdown playing this one lol... ;D but good results anyway, I don't know if i have the nerves to be a rouletteplayer :SS
Bankroll needed minimum 200u (playing with 1u bets)
Hello Ignatus,
thank you for your many ideas. dont know if i got it right but if you bet 12 nr straight and 12 u on color. you break even on the color. so lets say the numbers are
1
3
now you start betting
28
now you break even on your bet. what do you do next? wait for a trigger or keep on betting the same bet?
Thanks again, Ignatus!
Maybe +1/-1 instead of 1-2-4-8-16?
Quote from: 777 on Jul 25, 05:25 AM 2016
Hello Ignatus,
thank you for your many ideas. dont know if i got it right but if you bet 12 nr straight and 12 u on color. you break even on the color. so lets say the numbers are
1
3
now you start betting
28
now you break even on your bet. what do you do next? wait for a trigger or keep on betting the same bet?
Yes, that's right. You continue to play with the same bet until (in this case) one RED number bet in DOZ 2 or 3 hits.
Quote from: NextYear on Jul 25, 05:33 AM 2016
Thanks again, Ignatus!
Maybe +1/-1 instead of 1-2-4-8-16?
I haven't tried that and it wouldn't be a less risk because with +1/-1 it will take longer to recover, (?) you need more hits to recover,
with martingale you need less hits to recover(?) Higher risk, but quicker recovery.
You can try +1/-1 and report back the result if you like...
OK Nexyear, i tried +1/-1 progression and it seems to work fine. (Although, i had only two losses in a row in this example!)
I don't know how it will look like with more losses, but perhaps you're right, +1/-1 is safer and better!
Thx
I will continue testing +1/-1...
OK Nextyear, this example demonstrates the power of this system (played with +1/-1 progression)...the level of stress and anxiousness i felt playing with martingale is totaly gone, because i knew that was an insane progression, i knew it subconsiously, and that tormented me. playing with +1/-1 feels so much better! OK in this example i had 7 hits within the same 6 numbers, (progression reached 1-2-3-4-5) 5u, and it was a drawdown of ~250u, took some time to recover, BUT I DID IT! :thumbsup:
Thanks Nextyear! <3
12/12 Games won
Bankroll required: 300u minimum, playing with 1u bets
ignatus in RX do you use the random numbers from RX or do you use numbers uploaded from real spins? i often wonder if RX is a little biased as a lot of your systems come out 8/10 9/10 10/10 etc but if i look at numbers from a live casino, im not convinced it would be the same. is there any chance you could upload numbers from the section in the forum? lots of dublinbet previous spins could be used for example when you test your systems?
just a thought ;D
Quote from: Redherring on Jul 25, 07:11 AM 2016ignatus in RX do you use the random numbers from RX or do you use numbers uploaded from real spins?
The spins I'm using in RX are real live spins, downloaded from real casinos.... they are already published. You can find them here:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16562.0
Ah Righto looks like I'm just either unlucky or doing it wrong :twisted:
one of your better ones i think for sure
Quote from: Tomla021 on Jul 25, 09:43 AM 2016
one of your better ones i think for sure
Yes thanks, but i feel the lack of interest in general...and i don't know if I should do more testings..?
12 out of 12 ---of course its good to test
Quote from: ignatus on Jul 24, 05:24 PM 2016
This is a 30 numbers bet, with martingale progression.
This is main reason why you lost 99% there interest . Sorry.
But 18 numbers are just a hedge bet, so it's 12 winning numbers and 7 which lose...
Only 12 tests say nothing! Do 100 and we can start talking :xd: :thumbsup:
ignatus I think you have cracked it :thumbsup: Thank You 5 out of 5 so far !!!!
Rewster88 maybe YOU should start testing :thumbsup:
Any large number bet that shows success is worth testing
My DS theory strategy is also 30 numbers and works very well ;)
One would think +1 -1 is safe for 30 numbers but be careful
very fun system I will test more and hope it holds out
Quote from: sturrock on Jul 25, 11:41 AM 2016
Rewster88 maybe YOU should start testing :thumbsup:
Yes i do , but i cant wright the system on rx so i autotest
13/13 Games won
A tough session, that was won in the end! :)
Ignatus -have you had a 20 out of 20 winner yet?
Quote from: Tomla021 on Jul 25, 02:55 PM 2016
Ignatus -have you had a 20 out of 20 winner yet?
Yes, "Hotzone" in the 1 to 4 numbers section, but i had a very low wingoal, i don't trust or recommend playing with "hotnumbers" I know what works and what does NOT work, hotnumbers is one of the things that DOES NOT work. No matter what the "roulette experts" say... :/
Ignatus what prog are you using now ?
Quote from: sturrock on Jul 25, 04:11 PM 2016
Ignatus what prog are you using now ?
+1/-1 progression
+1 -1 on straight ups and +12 -12 on red/black?
Quote from: celescliff on Jul 25, 04:46 PM 2016
+1 -1 on straight ups and +12 -12 on red/black?
Yes, that's right.
Testing 7-0 :thumbsup:
@Ignatus
After you get a hit on let's say 4 units in progression, do you proceed on the same 12 numbers with 3 units, or do you choose next target?
Quote from: NextYear on Jul 26, 03:50 AM 2016
@Ignatus
After you get a hit on let's say 4 units in progression, do you proceed on the same 12 numbers with 3 units, or do you choose next target?
The same numbers , until one of the 12 straightup numbers bet hit.
Ok, but after:
"...do you proceed on the same 12 numbers with 3 units, or do you choose next target?"
Quote from: NextYear on Jul 26, 05:32 AM 2016
Ok, but after:
"...do you proceed on the same 12 numbers with 3 units, or do you choose next target?"
OK, no after a hit, you bet the next trigger....
Just given ago with real money "William Hill Sling Shot" 10p game, 2 out of 2 so far :wink:
Now 3 out of 3 Real Money !!!!!
for fun i played it Boner w out trigger: a color and the opposite color in 2 dozens straight no triggers flat bet for 60 spins and it won. Probably means nothing but ya never know
played twice +1 -1 , as written ,, won both times 50 units each time ........the bet w the hedge is pretty static ----kind of a real good waiting bet if your playing other infrequent triggers. Really like it
How are you playing tom?
Also intrested how you are playing this Tom ??? :thumbsup:
Any body still testing this ?
im still doing some tests -but not many (busy at work)
I'm still doing a bit as well Only had one really bad session which lasted about an hour going "Up and Down" till it drew even again, I'm trying to work out a better trigger Maybe 3 of the same dozen in a row????
2 more tests--havent had a loser yet (it will happen)
How far into progression do people go? I've tried different progressions. +1-1 and reset on win and +1-1 up to 13 losses in a row.
I coded this and it wins quite many times but unfortunatly looses quite many times aswell. :(
Some looks like the first and some looks like the second.
Sorry. :(
Been having a little dabble changing it a little.
Say the ball lands on 1.. Bet 1u on all red in 1st dozen then 15u for 2-3 dozen. If it lands on a red in the first dozen it breaks even 36u bet but if lands in 2-3 dozen it's a bigger profit. Don't know if that would be a safer way?
You could go 10u for 2-3 dozen when the profit is smaller but maybe easier/safer for progression?
Have you tried the Fibo with that??
Just a thought.
Ignatus keep them coming!