What will you call it, luck, voodoo?
Someone said what if you just bet in number order ( dont know the math term).
jackpot247 29.07.16
1 5
2 26
3 2
4 34
5 5 win
6 9 1 9
7 20 2 20
8 17 3 17
9 32 4 32
10 12 5 12
11 28 6 28
12 18 7 18
13 0 8 0
14 6 9 6
15 34 10 34
16 29 11 29
17 7 12 7
18 11 13 11
19 23 14 23
20 27 15 27
21 14 16 14
22 24 17 24
23 30 18 30
24 35 19 35
25 9 20 9
26 31 21 31
27 6 22 6
28 23 23 23 win
29 5 24 5 1 5
30 19 25 19 2 19
31 15 26 15 3 15
32 8 27 8 4 8
33 15 28 15 5 15
34 26 29 26 6 26
35 11 30 11 7 11
36 16 31 16 8 16
37 11 32 11 9 11
38 32 33 32 10 32
39 14 34 14 11 14
40 9 35 9 12 9
41 15 36 15 13 15
42 34 37 34 14 34
43 34 38 34 15 34
44 2 39 2 16 2
45 32 40 32 17 32
46 3 41 3 18 3
47 18 42 18 19 18
48 20 43 20 20 20 win
49 36 44 36 21 36 1 36
50 20 45 20 22 20 2 20
51 6 46 6 23 6 3 6
52 13 47 13 24 13 4 13
53 27 48 27 25 27 5 27
54 23 49 23 26 23 6 23
55 30 50 30 27 30 7 30
56 1 51 1 28 1 8 1
57 27 52 27 29 27 9 27
58 11 53 11 30 11 10 11
59 11 54 11 31 11 11 11 win
60 1 55 1 32 1 12 1 1 1 win
61 3 56 3 33 3 13 3 2 3 1 3
62 29 57 29 34 29 14 29 3 29 2 29
63 8 58 8 35 8 15 8 4 8 3 8
64 31 59 31 36 31 16 31 5 31 4 31
65 5 60 5 37 5 17 5 6 5 5 5 win
66 9 9 38 9 18 9 7 9 6 9
67 29 29 39 29 19 29 8 29 7 29
68 28 28 40 28 20 28 9 28 8 28
41 21
Oh yeah KTF +51 #7
142 spins from B+M Aspers.
Make of it what you want, Voodoo
Aspers mk 25.06.16
1 13
2 27
3 15
4 20
5 18
6 6 win
7 18 1 18
8 4 2 4
9 3 3 3 win
10 1 4 1 1 1 win
11 5 5 5 2 5 1 5
12 10 6 10 3 10 2 10
13 17 7 17 4 17 3 17
14 3 8 3 5 3 4 3
15 31 9 31 6 31 5 31
16 25 10 25 7 25 6 25
17 34 11 34 8 34 7 34
18 0 12 0 9 0 8 0
19 34 13 34 10 34 9 34
20 18 14 18 11 18 10 18
21 3 15 3 12 3 11 3
22 30 16 30 13 30 12 30
23 35 17 35 14 35 13 35
24 28 18 28 15 28 14 28
25 7 19 7 16 7 15 7
26 18 20 18 17 18 16 18
27 7 21 7 18 7 17 7
28 24 22 24 19 24 18 24
29 35 23 35 20 35 19 35
30 13 24 13 21 13 20 13
31 24 25 24 22 24 21 24
32 27 26 27 23 27 22 27
33 19 27 19 24 19 23 19
34 6 28 6 25 6 24 6
35 0 29 0 26 0 25 0
36 16 30 16 27 16 26 16
37 23 31 23 28 23 27 23
38 17 32 17 29 17 28 17
39 24 33 24 30 24 29 24
40 29 34 29 31 29 30 29
41 26 35 26 32 26 31 26
42 22 36 22 33 22 32 22
43 7 37 7 34 7 33 7
44 18 38 18 35 18 34 18
45 9 39 9 36 9 35 9
46 18 40 18 37 18 36 18
47 27 41 27 38 27 37 27 lose
48 4 42 4 39 4 38 4 1 4
49 19 43 19 40 19 39 19 2 19
50 9 44 9 41 9 40 9 3 9
51 22 45 22 42 22 41 22 4 22
52 16 46 16 43 16 42 16 5 16
53 5 47 5 44 5 43 5 6 5
54 1 48 1 45 1 44 1 7 1
55 36 49 36 46 36 45 36 8 36
56 28 50 28 47 28 46 28 9 28
57 16 51 16 48 16 47 16 10 16
58 12 52 12 49 12 48 12 11 12
59 29 53 29 50 29 49 29 12 29
60 29 54 29 51 29 50 29 13 29
61 11 55 11 52 11 51 11 14 11
62 23 56 23 53 23 52 23 15 23
63 16 57 16 54 16 53 16 16 16 win
64 12 58 12 55 12 54 12 17 12 1 12
65 23 59 23 56 23 55 23 18 23 2 23
66 24 60 24 57 24 56 24 19 24 3 24
67 18 61 18 58 18 57 18 20 18 4 18
68 6 62 6 59 6 58 6 21 6 5 6
69 9 63 9 60 9 59 9 22 9 6 9
70 9 64 9 61 9 60 9 23 9 7 9
71 33 65 33 62 33 61 33 24 33 8 33
72 3 66 3 63 3 62 3 25 3 9 3
73 16 67 16 64 16 63 16 26 16 10 16
74 7 68 7 65 7 64 7 27 7 11 7
75 10 69 10 66 10 65 10 28 10 12 10
76 3 70 3 67 3 66 3 29 3 13 3
77 1 71 1 68 1 67 1 30 1 14 1
78 17 72 17 69 17 68 17 31 17 15 17
79 29 73 29 70 29 69 29 32 29 16 29
80 13 74 13 71 13 70 13 33 13 17 13
81 6 75 6 72 6 71 6 34 6 18 6
82 23 76 23 73 23 72 23 35 23 19 23
83 31 77 31 74 31 73 31 36 31 20 31
84 9 78 9 75 9 74 9 37 9 21 9
85 23 79 23 76 23 75 23 38 23 22 23
86 23 80 23 77 23 76 23 39 23 23 23 win
87 2 81 2 78 2 77 2 40 2 24 2 1 2
88 30 82 30 79 30 78 30 41 30 25 30 2 30
89 14 83 14 80 14 79 14 42 14 26 14 3 14
90 0 84 0 81 0 80 0 43 0 27 0 4 0
91 5 85 5 82 5 81 5 44 5 28 5 5 5 win
92 19 86 19 83 19 82 19 45 19 29 19 6 19 1 19
93 16 87 16 84 16 83 16 46 16 30 16 7 16 2 16
94 31 88 31 85 31 84 31 47 31 31 31 8 31 3 31
95 19 89 19 86 19 85 19 48 19 32 19 9 19 4 19
96 22 90 22 87 22 86 22 49 22 33 22 10 22 5 22
97 21 91 21 88 21 87 21 50 21 34 21 11 21 6 21
98 4 92 4 89 4 88 4 51 4 35 4 12 4 7 4
99 3 93 3 90 3 89 3 52 3 36 3 13 3 8 3
100 28 94 28 91 28 90 28 53 28 37 28 14 28 9 28
101 10 95 10 92 10 91 10 54 10 38 10 15 10 10 10 win
102 31 96 31 93 31 92 31 55 31 39 31 16 31 11 31 1 31
103 5 97 5 94 5 93 5 56 5 40 5 17 5 12 5 2 5
104 3 98 3 95 3 94 3 57 3 41 3 18 3 13 3 3 3 win
105 6 99 6 96 6 95 6 58 6 42 6 19 6 14 6 4 6 1 6
106 11 100 11 97 11 96 11 59 11 43 11 20 11 15 11 5 11 2 11
107 33 101 33 98 33 97 33 60 33 44 33 21 33 16 33 6 33 3 33
108 13 102 13 99 13 98 13 61 13 45 13 22 13 17 13 7 13 4 13
109 22 103 22 100 22 99 22 62 22 46 22 23 22 18 22 8 22 5 22
110 31 104 31 101 31 100 31 63 31 47 31 24 31 19 31 9 31 6 31
111 11 105 11 102 11 101 11 64 11 48 11 25 11 20 11 10 11 7 11
112 5 106 5 103 5 102 5 65 5 49 5 26 5 21 5 11 5 8 5
113 28 107 28 104 28 103 28 66 28 50 28 27 28 22 28 12 28 9 28
114 14 108 14 105 14 104 14 67 14 51 14 28 14 23 14 13 14 10 14
115 30 109 30 106 30 105 30 68 30 52 30 29 30 24 30 14 30 11 30
116 18 110 18 107 18 106 18 69 18 53 18 30 18 25 18 15 18 12 18
117 5 111 5 108 5 107 5 70 5 54 5 31 5 26 5 16 5 13 5
118 5 112 5 109 5 108 5 71 5 55 5 32 5 27 5 17 5 14 5
119 18 113 18 110 18 109 18 72 18 56 18 33 18 28 18 18 18 15 18
120 6 114 6 111 6 110 6 73 6 57 6 34 6 29 6 19 6 16 6
121 25 115 25 112 25 111 25 74 25 58 25 35 25 30 25 20 25 17 25
122 20 116 20 113 20 112 20 75 20 59 20 36 20 31 20 21 20 18 20
123 15 117 15 114 15 113 15 76 15 60 15 37 15 32 15 22 15 19 15
124 32 118 32 115 32 114 32 77 32 61 32 38 32 33 32 23 32 20 32
125 34 119 34 116 34 115 34 78 34 62 34 39 34 34 34 24 34 21 34
126 10 120 10 117 10 116 10 79 10 63 10 40 10 35 10 25 10 22 10
127 18 121 18 118 18 117 18 80 18 64 18 41 18 36 18 26 18 23 18
128 23 122 23 119 23 118 23 81 23 65 23 42 23 37 23 27 23 24 23
129 5 123 5 120 5 119 5 82 5 66 5 43 5 38 5 28 5 25 5
130 31 124 31 121 31 120 31 83 31 67 31 44 31 39 31 29 31 26 31
131 24 125 24 122 24 121 24 84 24 68 24 45 24 40 24 30 24 27 24
132 27 126 27 123 27 122 27 85 27 69 27 46 27 41 27 31 27 28 27
133 4 127 4 124 4 123 4 86 4 70 4 47 4 42 4 32 4 29 4
134 28 128 28 125 28 124 28 87 28 71 28 48 28 43 28 33 28 30 28
135 18 129 18 126 18 125 18 88 18 72 18 49 18 44 18 34 18 31 18
136 17 130 17 127 17 126 17 89 17 73 17 50 17 45 17 35 17 32 17
137 6 131 6 128 6 127 6 90 6 74 6 51 6 46 6 36 6 33 6
138 5 132 5 129 5 128 5 91 5 75 5 52 5 47 5 37 5 34 5
139 27 133 27 130 27 129 27 92 27 76 27 53 27 48 27 38 27 35 27
140 4 134 4 131 4 130 4 93 4 77 4 54 4 49 4 39 4 36 4
141 9 135 9 132 9 131 9 94 9 78 9 55 9 50 9 40 9 37 9 lose
142 21 136 21 133 21 132 21 95 21 79 21 56 21 51 21 41 21 38 21
Just used the multi player clock freezes so are they looking to not pay out.
well got in to a 3rd 37 cycle but Br was a new high
I could do with a little bit of explanations...
Good afternoon
just been on multi player and won with watching the 0x,1x and >1x. But i was waiting for the 25th # which came on spin 43, bet the remaining 12 and won the very next bet, so( winning system * i think* is doing well )
Now the above
I dont know if it really is stupid as its just 1# each time. Think it was mentioned by a member called Alex.
Just follow the numerical order of numbers, hope thats right, so 1st bet is #1, if lose then bet #2, again if lose bet #3 and keep going till #36 or stop and reset if you get a win, for #0 that would be your 37th bet.
If you got to 36th bet you could up to 2 units for 18 spins then up to 3 and so on, or just flat bet the 2 units for another 36 spins, your choice.
In the above i was betting in the 3rd cycle of 37 spins and won with 9 units.
Woo Priyankas looking
All clear, thanks!
P.S.
I'm also watching...
just left multi player won with watching 0x,1x+>1x's, plus winning method*i think*.
Looked at the spins and goes full 37 cycle, would now chip up to 2 units on #1, yeah in it comes. :twisted: Mad or what
Reply 2 does not read right, hope does here
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 29, 06:41 AM 2016
What will you call it, luck, voodoo?
Someone said what if you just bet in number order ( dont know the math term).
jackpot247 29.07.16
1 5
2 26
3 2
4 34
5 5 win
6 9 1 9
7 20 2 20
8 17 3 17
9 32 4 32
10 12 5 12
11 28 6 28
12 18 7 18
13 0 8 0
14 6 9 6
15 34 10 34
16 29 11 29
17 7 12 7
18 11 13 11
19 23 14 23
20 27 15 27
21 14 16 14
22 24 17 24
23 30 18 30
24 35 19 35
25 9 20 9
26 31 21 31
27 6 22 6
28 23 23 23 win
29 5 24 5 1 5
30 19 25 19 2 19
31 15 26 15 3 15
32 8 27 8 4 8
33 15 28 15 5 15
34 26 29 26 6 26
35 11 30 11 7 11
36 16 31 16 8 16
37 11 32 11 9 11
38 32 33 32 10 32
39 14 34 14 11 14
40 9 35 9 12 9
41 15 36 15 13 15
42 34 37 34 14 34
43 34 38 34 15 34
44 2 39 2 16 2
45 32 40 32 17 32
46 3 41 3 18 3
47 18 42 18 19 18
48 20 43 20 20 20 win
49 36 44 36 21 36 1 36
50 20 45 20 22 20 2 20
51 6 46 6 23 6 3 6
52 13 47 13 24 13 4 13
53 27 48 27 25 27 5 27
54 23 49 23 26 23 6 23
55 30 50 30 27 30 7 30
56 1 51 1 28 1 8 1
57 27 52 27 29 27 9 27
58 11 53 11 30 11 10 11
59 11 54 11 31 11 11 11 win
60 1 55 1 32 1 12 1 1 1 win
61 3 56 3 33 3 13 3 2 3 1 3
62 29 57 29 34 29 14 29 3 29 2 29
63 8 58 8 35 8 15 8 4 8 3 8
64 31 59 31 36 31 16 31 5 31 4 31
65 5 60 5 37 5 17 5 6 5 5 5 win
66 9 9 38 9 18 9 7 9 6 9
67 29 29 39 29 19 29 8 29 7 29
68 28 28 40 28 20 28 9 28 8 28
41 21
I think it was me.
A random number will match the order it came out on average once every 37 spins
I did tests and posted them a while back
I plotted this in excel over 99900 random compared to cycle of 37
(there are 2700 x 37 in 99900)
These are some results in
2651
2684
2676
2720
2760
2758
2742
2710
Its pretty clear that on average a random number will match the order it came out once in 37Thing is, same results if you play 1 number, or play a randomly generated number.
Turner, Grosvenor Luton today,just got in.
Luton Grosvenor
1 15
2 21
3 24
4 26
5 35
6 6 win
7 12 1 12
8 8 2 8
9 11 3 11
10 6 4 6
11 4 5 4
12 35 6 35
13 24 7 24
14 27 8 27
15 15 9 15
16 5 10 5
17 22 11 22
18 25 12 25
19 27 13 27
20 35 14 35
21 25 15 25
22 35 16 35
23 4 17 4
24 20 18 20
25 26 19 26
26 17 20 17
27 35 21 35
28 27 22 27
29 29 23 29
30 21 24 21
31 12 25 12
32 24 26 24
33 11 27 11
34 24 28 24
35 5 29 5
36 33 30 33
37 33 31 33
38 26 32 26
39 19 33 19
40 31 34 31
41 7 35 7
42 36 36 36 win
43 26 37 26
44 13 38 13
45 34 39 34
Dont forget.....I did test playing the same number...say 13...for 10k and a random number for 10k. Same results
And no...its not voodoo.
Anything you do...like 1 2 3 4 5 back to 1 2 3 4 5 has the same result
Of course....they dont pay 36:1 so you wiil be 2.7% down in the long run.
Its clear to see the HE at work with this simple 1 number bet.
Quote from: Turner on Jul 31, 07:46 AM 2016
Dont forget.....I did test playing the same number...say 13...for 10k and a random number for 10k. Same results
And no...its not voodoo.
Anything you do...like 1 2 3 4 5 back to 1 2 3 4 5 has the same result
Of course....they dont pay 36:1 so you wiil be 2.7% down in the long run.
Its clear to see the HE at work with this simple 1 number bet.
Yes, of course, if you play whatever bet selection method for 10k spins, the theoretically calculated HE will reveal itself in reality. That is an end-result that is inevitable.
And because of the HE manifesting itself in the long run, there is a strong argument to be made to use any bet selection method or strategy for short sessions (1 to 50 spins). That way short term trends can be best exploited.
method or strategy for short sessions (1 to 50 spins). :thumbsup:
Quote from: nottophammer on Aug 01, 05:30 AM 2016
method or strategy for short sessions (1 to 50 spins). :thumbsup:
Actually, 1 to 20/30 spins is more like it for most strategies.
Even 50 is taking things a bit too far (maybe acceptable in rare situations).
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 29, 12:01 PM 2016
Good afternoon
just been on multi player and won with watching the 0x,1x and >1x. But i was waiting for the 25th # which came on spin 43, bet the remaining 12 and won the very next bet, so( winning system * i think* is doing well )
Now the above
I dont know if it really is stupid as its just 1# each time. Think it was mentioned by a member called Alex.
Just follow the numerical order of numbers, hope thats right, so 1st bet is #1, if lose then bet #2, again if lose bet #3 and keep going till #36 or stop and reset if you get a win, for #0 that would be your 37th bet.
If you got to 36th bet you could up to 2 units for 18 spins then up to 3 and so on, or just flat bet the 2 units for another 36 spins, your choice.
In the above i was betting in the 3rd cycle of 37 spins and won with 9 units.
Now i see Eddy posted another method up, middle column stuff.
But whilst i'm on MPR Voodoo happens should i say most of the time ?? If you search on forum theres no end of Voodoo mentioned in methods.
The pic below you see 2 hits
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/05/11/temp_260749.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/sa9Tx)
So the above was just an observation as i was betting for repeats.
But R/beatter i won 55 units on R1 going R2 even missing spins 12,15 and 24
Four others mention no names should see how the win comes
R/beatter no Voodooo this time, spin 35 #36 close.
Best part won 450 units and i missed #17; spins 12 and 16 would have laughed if 17 had came on 17
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/05/11/temp_912686.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/saiIV)
Yes it is so stoooopid.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Aug 01, 09:46 PM 2016
Actually, 1 to 20/30 spins is more like it for most strategies.
Even 50 is taking things a bit too far (maybe acceptable in rare situations).
Hi Doctor,
I hear your point but the argument can work both ways. Long Term the mathematical fact is when you build in the HE it shows itself statistically over a large sample. This is what keeps the casinos in business. They are playing for the long term.
Short Term you can get lucky and be there during those periods that show a tendency to defy the long term average. So if betting red then you would be lucky to come across a sample of 50 spins where red hit > 26 times. So you are in profit and can stop and claim victory.
But you can also come across the exact opposite in that sample of 50 and be unlucky to bet when red hit < 26 spins.
However, there is one thing you can control and that is how much you WIN or LOSE in that sample of 50 spins. If you are in profit before the 50 spins you can STOP and claim a victory. But if you are on a losing streak and have lost MORE than the statistical average of > 52.7% (including the house edge 2.7%(single 0 wheel)) before betting the complete 50 spins(say after 25 spins) then you can STOP at a smaller loss than continuing for all 50 spins and risk losing > 52.7%
In summary its called MM.
So whether you play for the long term or short term there is no escaping the House Edge. The longer you keep going back to the casino and play the more you are exposed to the house edge.
The trick is finding those rare events that give you a players edge by only betting against those events from occurring. So out of a complete set of possible combinations in a 12 spin or hand cycle if a certain combination only occurs 1% of the time and does not complete to the 12th spin/hand 99% of the time then logic and math say that the longer you play AGAINST a pattern that has formed to the 8th or 9th or 10th hand every time it occurs then you will win 99% of the time.
This is what methods like PATTERN ATTACK are exploiting and so far the strategy is working. Only thing is you have no control when you can bet this pattern because it does not show its head very often. Although in recent days at my BM casino I have had quite a few opportunities and have won more than I lost. So flat betting is proving profitable
Cheers,
Ricky