Are you against triggers? Stay away.
Are you against waiting for 24 to disappear for 50 spins and then keep betting on it for 20 spins? Stay away.
Are you against betting on patterns like RBRB or against patterns like RBRB? Stay away.
You hate systems that lose on a long run? Stay away.
Are you in this forum to learn how to make profits? Stay away.
Are you here to make a fortune. Stay away.
Yeah and finally, if you think spins coming in future do not follow the laws of probability. Stay away.
This is not for you. You just want to have a bit of fun with numbers, jump in.
Hmmm! I really didnt mean that. Every one is entitled a bit of fun, so jump in.
This way of playing is more fun for me, as I can play around with my numbers. It wins at times but loses most of the time. This is also a showcase of how cycles work and how one cannot side step probability even if you want to. Lets see whats the recipe.
How long does it take?
Oh yeah! This is not for those who are on their toes. This is for those lazy bums whos sit sipping a coffee/cola whatever and can play at least a 100 spins. Even the slim chance of profit, is only after you play a 100 spins. Not before! Nope!
So how does it look like?
It is a two stepped process. First step is all about cooking it slow and steady. The second step is all about burning your hands. The funny thing about this play is even though it is a mechanical process, every time I play I end up with a different result. Really funny. So how do you play this.
Before playing, let me refresh two things. Cycles and Orders. Cycle starts anytime and ends when the element (EC, dozen, line etc) that is being tracked repeats. Order is the order in which the elements appear in that cycle. So, keeping with dozens, it looks something like below.
13
14 â€" Cycle length 1, repeat order 1
12
33
23 â€" cycle length 3, repeat order 3
13 â€" cycle length 1, repeat order 1
35
32 â€" cycle length 2, repeat order 1
17
19 â€" cycle length 2, repeat order 1
26
19 â€" cycle length 2, repeat order 2
12
16 â€" cycle length 2, repeat order 2
34
31 â€" cycle length 2, repeat order 1
12
8 â€" cycle length 2, repeat order 1
9 â€" cycle length 1, repeat order 1
Hmm! Something is burning, let me look into that first before I continue.
I missed the cycle and order lessons so i'll leave you to it, thanks
Thanks Priyanka,
brilliant post. It clearly describes what is going on. ^-^ :xd: >:D
Proving your desription right, I found this:
QuoteAs a younger generation to Manrique, winkel and Priyanka perhaps my brain can offer something new here that all these great masters have missed? :wink: Don't forget: I already discovered parachute progression independent of any teachings here. I already cracked the other mysteries of life. Can I crack this one? Rather than trying to go with dispersion perhaps we can try to keep one step ahead. The constant here is "change" - but the stats don't stay the same either -
:girl_to:
br
winkel
is it something like that...
Quote from: Priyanka on Jul 29, 04:07 PM 2016Hmm! Something is burning, let me look into that first before I continue.
Hopefully not your house , otherwise -> O0
Quote from: Herby on Jul 31, 11:15 AM 2016Hopefully not your house , otherwise ->
Luckily it was not :) It was just the movie Burnt.
I tried writing up this trigger based, past spin based, losing system again and again. And you know what, I coudnt understand a single word of it every time I wrote. So decided to just do a video alongside the notes on how and what is being bet. Hopefully, this describes the system better than my writing.
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=fiZ39MkjDfQ
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 29, 04:22 PM 2016
I missed the cycle and order lessons so i'll leave you to it, thanks
Notto - Upto you. This system is all about triggers, past spins and repeaters. It is just a mechanical system which loses as per the laws of roulette. It is not about cycles or none of that crap from random thoughts thread.
Quote from: Priyanka on Aug 01, 07:13 PM 2016
Notto - Upto you. This system is all about triggers, past spins and repeaters. It is just a mechanical system which loses as per the laws of roulette. It is not about cycles or none of that crap from random thoughts thread.
Now Priyanka sounding really cool. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Priyanka on Aug 01, 07:12 PM 2016
Luckily it was not :) It was just the movie Burnt.
I tried writing up this trigger based, past spin based, losing system again and again. And you know what, I coudnt understand a single word of it every time I wrote. So decided to just do a video alongside the notes on how and what is being bet. Hopefully, this describes the system better than my writing.
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=fiZ39MkjDfQ
Oh no - we need the writing!! You are pretty gifted when it comes to writing... were you raised by priests and nuns? And I don't see the "how" notes either... :(
Quote from: Priyanka on Jul 29, 04:07 PM 2016
Are you against triggers? Stay away.
Are you against waiting for 24 to disappear for 50 spins and then keep betting on it for 20 spins? Stay away.
Are you against betting on patterns like RBRB or against patterns like RBRB? Stay away.
You hate systems that lose on a long run? Stay away.
Are you in this forum to learn how to make profits? Stay away.
Are you here to make a fortune. Stay away.
Yeah and finally, if you think spins coming in future do not follow the laws of probability. Stay away.
Good luck keeping the doomsayers who know better away.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 01, 08:12 PM 2016And I don't see the "how" notes either... :(
How notes are in the excel in the video itself. It plays on the side.
Quote from: Priyanka on Aug 01, 08:42 PM 2016
How notes are in the excel in the video itself. It plays on the side.
Thanks, but I'm not ready yet am I... I'm still studying your old videos and tingz... were we meant to glean something from your green dozens spreadsheet since you removed all the vital columns? How about another video on the Lines Parrondo's Paradox; that looks like the best way of locking down the casino into submission. I like to know how many parallel games are used in that.
I wonder what is Priyanka's most profitable method?
-EC/Dozen Cycles + Straights
-Quads
-Lines
-Or something else?
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 01, 08:52 PM 2016
Thanks, but I'm not ready yet am I... I'm still studying your old videos and tingz... were we meant to glean something from your green dozens spreadsheet since you removed all the vital columns? How about another video on the Lines Parrondo's Paradox; that looks like the best way of locking down the casino into submission. I like to know how many parallel games are used in that.
I wonder what is Priyanka's most profitable method?
-EC/Dozen Cycles + Straights
-Quads
-Lines
-Or something else?
Falkor - This is a simple thread about a mechanical system to have a bit of fun. Humble request - Not to cloud it with ideas from the past and clarifications and dilute this thread! Hope you oblige.
Quote from: Priyanka on Aug 01, 09:05 PM 2016
Falkor - This is a simple thread about a mechanical system to have a bit of fun. Humble request - Not to cloud it with ideas from the past and clarifications and dilute this thread! Hope you oblige.
These topics all just die a death because of blocked communication, so where you are reluctant to discuss I am not sure what your motives are, but I respect your wishes nevertheless. I'll just carry on being the observer to your broadcasts for now, and it doesn't seem you welcome any responses. Small wonder we are having a communication problem since last year... though you were more cooperative at the beginning... but since then you've become degenerative.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 01, 09:20 PM 2016and it doesn't seem you welcome any responses
It's a way to keep the thread to its topic. I don't mind you posting anything here as long as it is related to this system discussed here. I don't want or rather don't like when someone ( not necessarily you ) divert every topic I start to those ideas in random thoughts. Thanks for your understanding.
Quote from: Priyanka on Aug 01, 09:33 PM 2016
It's a way to keep the thread to its topic. I don't mind you posting anything here as long as it is related to this system discussed here. I don't want or rather don't like when someone ( not necessarily you ) divert every topic I start to those ideas in random thoughts. Thanks for your understanding.
But that's simply not true is it? Your response rate to questions and discussions - regardless of whether strictly on topic or not - is really rather lousy; however, I don't have the stats to show it. What's more: this topic/system is built on ideas from Random Thoughts, so somewhat relevant. All you are doing is creating an artificial divide in your mind. Anyway, you don't have to justify your lack of communication since it's your own topic and your free time, at your expense, but please don't lie to yourself. It's not healthy. As Turner says: he needs to try to keep you honest. :P
Dare I approach Priyanka and ask her a serious question about this system? I will probably get accused of raping a woman instead. :girl_to:
Just remember, Priyanka: I'm not your enemy and neither is Steve - it's those people you have sworn oath to. :-X
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 01, 09:54 PM 2016Dare I approach Priyanka and ask her a serious question about this system? I will probably get accused of raping a woman instead.
You will not. You can ask anytime. :)
Wait!
First lets assume there is no edge.
[is the General gone yet?]
Ok, next clue!
There are six possible sequences from start to end of a cycle:
AA
ABA
ABB
ABCA
ABCB
ABCC
Where do we go from here?
Quote from: psimoes on Aug 03, 01:42 AM 2016
There are six possible sequences from start to end of a cycle:
AA
ABA
ABB
ABCA
ABCB
ABCC
Where do we go from here?
Those are all the combinations, right? But Priyanka limits those with 3 different orders?
yeah, it would look cool to say "repeat order 3 ALWAYS happens in a cycle length of 3 - a non-random event" and all that. But the truth is, you don´t know when a cycle length of 3 is about to hit.
You could also say that AA, ABA and ABCA all finish the cycle with the same dozen that started it.
While ABB, ABCB and ABCC all finish the cycle with a different dozen that started it.
Three sequences against "opposing" three other sequences - an even chance bet with 2:1 payout! But it´s flawed thinking.
So now what?
Quote from: psimoes on Aug 03, 08:04 AM 2016
yeah, it would look cool to say "repeat order 3 ALWAYS happens in a cycle length of 3 - a non-random event" and all that. But the truth is, you don´t know when a cycle length of 3 is about to hit.
You could also say that AA, ABA and ABCA all finish the cycle with the same dozen that started it.
While ABB, ABCB and ABCC all finish the cycle with a different dozen that started it.
Three sequences against "opposing" three other sequences - an even chance bet with 2:1 payout! But it´s flawed thinking.
So now what?
VdW? You know I think we can say more about the cycle length than we can about the defining element because they are 2 different types of constants (see my post in the Randomer Thoughts topic). I will look into this order element at some point to see if it can be combined with the cycle length to create a biased game or not. How do you suggest we change our thinking?
Quote from: psimoes on Aug 03, 08:04 AM 2016So now what?
Psimoes - This thread is more for fun. Some people likes playing with numbers. For example, it is very hard to describe the satisfaction you get when you start playing numbers 1 to 36 in a row for every spin and see how the expectation meets your results. It is pure fun and can only be experienced by someone who sees fun playing with numbers. There are many in this forum. Even your posts around chaos suggests you are one :)
Now coming to this method - Forget cycles. What am trying to do is have some fun with numbers. Have some fun with arranging them in the way I want. Have some fun with repeaters.
We all know that if there are dozens, they do repeat. They can either repeat the next spin or within the next 3 spins. All I am doing is arranging numbers as they turn up on the wheel in three separate sets. As much as possible, I try to order them in a way that one of the sets repeat only after 3 spins.
Once I create such sets then I play for repeaters in the way repeaters occur. So if a repeater happens within 2 spins, I play for that event to repeat with an added twist. I play only the position where the repeater repeated. Cryptic - I know, I am struggling to explain properly a system :(
QuoteWe all know that if there are dozens, they do repeat. They can either repeat the next spin or within the next 3 spins. All I am doing is arranging numbers as they turn up on the wheel in three separate sets. As much as possible, I try to order them in a way that one of the sets repeat only after 3 spins.
You mean you have chosen the 3 orders to follow a certain distribution pattern? But, if I've understood that correctly, isn't there just 3 natural orders anyway - and you've simply labelled them 1,2,3. It doesn't matter if 3 is 2 or 2 is 1 because one of the sets would still repeat after 3 spins (or whatever behaviour you are anticipating).
QuoteI play only the position where the repeater repeated. Cryptic - I know, I am struggling to explain properly a system.
Everything you explained sounds coherent - and will probably make sense if I analyse the video more. The only part that is difficult to understand is what you mean by "position"?
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 03, 10:07 AM 2016The only part that is difficult to understand is what you mean by "position"?
You rember the "out of the box" ?
Quote from: Herby on Aug 03, 10:17 AM 2016
You rember the "out of the box" ?
Oh no not that... you trying to give me a headache??? :yawn:
Quote from: Herby on Aug 03, 10:17 AM 2016
You rember the "out of the box" ?
You must be kidding me.... we can't be expected to track that as well... >:(
I'm just guessing, but with "out of the box" you get the position of the repeater, do the same thing again you get the position from where the repeater repeated. :question:
Quote from: Herby on Aug 03, 10:46 AM 2016
I'm just guessing, but with "out of the box" you get the position of the repeater, do the same thing again you get the position from where the repeater repeated. :question:
Good-bye and good luck! I'll be seeing you... ta ta fella...
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 03, 10:07 AM 2016The only part that is difficult to understand is what you mean by "position"?
If the numbers are 26, 30, 1, 26 - then the position in which the repeat happened is 3 spins behind. If the numbers are 26, 30, 1, 30 - the position the repeat happend is 2 spins behind. If the numbers are 26, 30, 1, 1 - then the repeat happened in position 1.
But in your video, Priyanka, you aren't charting based on repeating numbers... I don't want to use up one of my oracle questions on you yet, but are we still in the dozens realm here? I will certainly have a go at deciphering your video sometime then I'll go and find Steve to cry on his shoulder when I can't make sense of it.
OK, here's my Oracle question... what the hell are you tracking??? :question:
32
8
6
29 3 3
What has a length 3 and order 3 and looks like the above? Order 3 is that the last 2 are part of the same division/sub-group? What does 29 and 6 have in common? They are black, but then so is 8, so it can't be Red/Black that you are tracking - limited in length by 2 anyway. I guess you must have divided the board up into 3 somehow - just not the natural dozens?
WIP
Group 1: 1, 18, 22, 29, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?
Group 2: ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?
Group 3: ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?
I guess the groups could also change on a rolling basis - so the above may not even be accurate.
Wait, don't answer that question yet... I might need the credit for something else... I think I know what's being tracked... hold on a minute!
interesting concepts
I got a rough idea on what's happening but it looks too complicated... different numbers are being tracked in a grid - maximum of 3 per row. When a new row is started then the cycle ends on a length 3 by default. One of the exceptions seems to be when a repeat on a number occurs; in that situation a shorter cycle length is recorded - also numbers have to be swapped to different positions on the row. There still seems to be more rules in action then just that... haven't actually got to the betting stage yet in my analysis - need a sip of my coffee - but I would have already got kicked off the table by then anyway.
Priyanka now has 2 more videos of this uploaded BTW - but until the MAME team can emulate my favourite game I don't think we'll have any chance of reverse-engineering this system.
Priyanka is creating her own dozens BTW - so when the betting opportunity arises she is betting her custom dozens (one of the columns built up from the row triplets)
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 01, 09:20 PM 2016
These topics all just die a death because of blocked communication, so where you are reluctant to discuss I am not sure what your motives are, but I respect your wishes nevertheless. I'll just carry on being the observer to your broadcasts for now, and it doesn't seem you welcome any responses. Small wonder we are having a communication problem since last year... though you were more cooperative at the beginning... but since then you've become degenerative.
I could of wrote this.
People wont decipher some cryptic bamboozle knowing its a trigger based losing system
Seems you are selling tickets to a show everyone knows has been cancelled.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 03, 06:02 PM 2016
Priyanka is creating her own dozens BTW - so when the betting opportunity arises she is betting her custom dozens (one of the columns built up from the row triplets)
Maybe it's dozens on the wheel instead of carpet. Just guessing here
Quote from: Scarface on Aug 03, 06:45 PM 2016
Maybe it's dozens on the wheel instead of carpet. Just guessing here
Nah, it's ain't that mate... you are trying to throw me off again... Priyanka hired you to be devil's advocate to her topics. >:D
How many of Pri's videos have actually been understood? I think just the 1 quads video we have come close to understanding.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 03, 06:51 PM 2016
Nah, it's ain't that mate... you are trying to throw me off again... Priyanka hired you to be devil's advocate to her topics. >:D
How many of Pri's videos have actually been understood? I think just the 1 quads video we have come close to understanding.
You might be spending a little too much time on this thing
Quote from: maestro on Aug 03, 05:49 PM 2016
interesting concepts
Thx!
Quote from: Turner on Aug 03, 06:24 PM 2016
People wont decipher some cryptic bamboozle knowing its a trigger based losing system
Turner - thats not my intention in this topic. The problem is I am finding it difficult to explain due to the nature of this bet. I have explained in the best way possible and open to answer any questions on this one. Thats the reason posted the entire video play with the bet selection process going alongside. Still struggling to find a better way to explain. Any help is sincerely best appreciated :)
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 03, 06:02 PM 2016
Priyanka is creating her own dozens BTW - so when the betting opportunity arises she is betting her custom dozens (one of the columns built up from the row triplets)
Thats right Falkor.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 03, 05:57 PM 2016I don't think we'll have any chance of reverse-engineering this system.
You dont have to reverse engineer it. As I said, I am struggling to explain though. The best explanation that I can come up with is already there.
1. Make up your own dozens. How you make up the dozens is charting the numbers as they come and as far as possible try to put them in such a manner that the repeat happens only at the 4th position.
2. Betting happens for a repeat of the position of the repeater for any repeats within 3 spins. So repeat order 1 and repeat next spin, and repeat order 1 and 2 for the repeat in the 3rd spin. Not on the repeats that happen in the 4th spin.
3. As soon as a repeat is established, the tracking starts again.
4. As soon as you are in profit, you reset the making up of own dozens.
This combined with the video and the excel that runs along with it should help explain this. I will try to post the video and also try to attach the excel file in the next post.
Thanks Priyanka,
I am watching - Yet another system recipe 2 (in hope that it would be worth invested time ;)), and it is very hard to understand... ???, especially as there also seem to be some mistakes:
- spin 24, after number 21, your bet is mix of columns 1&2, and there is also mystic split 8/11 and missing number 36 from column 1
- spin 39, after number 1, all numbers are from column 2, except #1 is replaced with #0 which is in column 1
That is as far as I get till now...
Any help?
Thanks Priyanka! So since you seem to be all too aware that soon we will all be plunged into the jungle together, naked, trying our best to help each other survive in the post-electric apocalypse, you are now happy to have honest communication on this one? That's very commendable.
OK - I will take you up that offer. I will devise a series of carefully chosen questions that will result in total clarity - based on Priyanka's cooperation.
Nuff respect to all my fellow citizens! :thumbsup:
Quote from: NextYear on Aug 04, 04:05 AM 2016That is as far as I get till now...
Any help
You are right. The essence is the same I have written down as steps. I might have done some mistakes along the way, you can ignore them.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 04, 05:16 AM 2016you are now happy to have honest communication on this one
He he... My communication has always been open. There are certain things I feel ok sharing, something I dont. As far as this topic is concerned, I am more than open to share what and how this is being played, as it is a bit of fun. Who is me to say no to a bit of fun!
<plunged into the jungle together, naked, trying our best to help each other survive>...falkor do you know that even then when people bunch toghether in jungle there was always one of the tribe who noticed that at certain days of the year were shorter and some longer,then they started to chart them,some days were beter for hunting than others...and so on and so on....till the day internet was born and people started to try to think like computers...thats were all went wrong..
It's good to think like computers IMO. The problem began when parents started controlling their children and restricting them from having their emotional needs satisfied because they thought that disciplining children in that way was good parenting...
or this could be diff way of charting
P.S sorry Priyanka i edited your sheet..a bit
This is another video. I have attached the excel note as well with this one that was used in the video.
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg54BoFj_rY
Thanks Pri!
Any chance of excel for last 2 videos?
Quote from: NextYear on Aug 05, 10:52 AM 2016
Thanks Pri!
Any chance of excel for last 2 videos?
Would have lost it. Will send more as and when I play
Quote from: psimoes on Aug 03, 08:04 AM 2016
yeah, it would look cool to say "repeat order 3 ALWAYS happens in a cycle length of 3 - a non-random event" and all that. But the truth is, you don´t know when a cycle length of 3 is about to hit.
You could also say that AA, ABA and ABCA all finish the cycle with the same dozen that started it.
While ABB, ABCB and ABCC all finish the cycle with a different dozen that started it.
Three sequences against "opposing" three other sequences - an even chance bet with 2:1 payout! But it´s flawed thinking.
So now what?
Can somebody please tell me what the 3 orders are? Judging by Priyanka's opening post:
22 = order 1
11 = order 1
22 = order 1
233 = order 1
322 = order 1
233 = order 1
311 = order 1
232 = order 2
212 = order 2
2133 = order 1
2131 = order 22132 = order 3
Her CL3 order 3 doesn't seem to follow the same pattern re: what psimoes described with ABC? And so CL3 order 1 and 2 are also uncertain.
Shouldn't it be like this:
2133 = order 1
2131 = order 3
2132 = order 2
?
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 10, 09:44 AM 2016
233 = order 1 - repeat of first number back
311 = order 1 - repeat of first number back
232 = order 2 - repeat of second number back
212 = order 2 - repeat of second number back
2133 = order 1 - repeat of first number back
2131 = order 2 - repeat of second number back
2132 = order 3 - repeat of third number back
I would guess...
Quote from: Priyanka on Aug 04, 03:33 AM 2016You dont have to reverse engineer it. As I said, I am struggling to explain though. The best explanation that I can come up with is already there.
1. Make up your own dozens. How you make up the dozens is charting the numbers as they come and as far as possible try to put them in such a manner that the repeat happens only at the 4th position.
2. Betting happens for a repeat of the position of the repeater for any repeats within 3 spins. So repeat order 1 and repeat next spin, and repeat order 1 and 2 for the repeat in the 3rd spin. Not on the repeats that happen in the 4th spin.
3. As soon as a repeat is established, the tracking starts again.
4. As soon as you are in profit, you reset the making up of own dozens.
This combined with the video and the excel that runs along with it should help explain this. I will try to post the video and also try to attach the excel file in the next post.
Looks like this thread died before anybody ever figured out exactly how the column grid was being populated, and exactly why one column versus another would be bet on.
I have watched the vids closely, but am still unclear about the above description.
I do understand that unique numbers are being stacked in three columns on the right, and that, eventually, a column consisting of 2,3, or 4 numbers may be bet, after tracking as many as 24 numbers before betting.
I also get the cycle length and order concept, and that you are building your own "dozens" as they come in, and are mysteriously pigeonholed in the grid on the right.
To clarify my questions, i have put the initial several spins from two of the vids into spreadsheets.
Not much point in going beyond these questions, since, if i can't understand the logic at this point, the rest of the logic won't register.
The main question is: Is this better than Speedy Gonzales?
I bet it's a way of creating your own dozens based on positions and "outside the box"! As enticing as all this is I have had to pass it up for the time being till I've finished my current studies on "uniques" - suggested by praline. This shit is so powerful that it scares the shit out of me... I'm seeing some numbers coming more than other numbers! If you do ever find edge you will never use it because it's too damn scary having that kind of power and realization of reality. The results of my stats are freaking me out to the point where I need psychiatric help. Life changing - no doubt - but for the better or worse? :xd: This is one parrondo's box we should never have opened... better go back to random play.
Crazy guy put a $100,000 bet on number 32 winning him $3.5 million
link:s://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EvUhX9q_1ei-8eCEp2OEOGzGkIS4KdT6ePYHTd9OGtU/pubhtml?gid=436572316&single=true
Here, above, is a link to a live Google spreadsheet up in my cloud account containing all 96 spins of video #2 of Priyanka's Yet Another System Recipe. Might be a better way of sharing information. I can update it there anytime. It's very clear. I could share an editable link, if Priyanka was interested in adding notes to it.
Here i show all the spins, and how there were marked for cycles and orders.
I also show three columns on the right representing custom made "dozens".
Finally, i also show which dozen's were bet, and when.
I still can't say WHY any of the bets were placed, when they were placed, as i find the following description not clear enough for me:
Quote from: Priyanka on Aug 04, 03:33 AM 20162. Betting happens for a repeat of the position of the repeater for any repeats within 3 spins. So repeat order 1 and repeat next spin, and repeat order 1 and 2 for the repeat in the 3rd spin. Not on the repeats that happen in the 4th spin.
When betting, it appears the entire "dozen" (sometimes two dozens) is bet, whether it contains four numbers or as many as twelve. In this example, over so many spins, only three numbers had not yet shown up, distributed over the three "dozens".
Again, as of this day, i don't get the exact logic that governs distribution into the dozens grid on the right. It always starts out left to right, and seems to default to that, but could be any order, according to this instruction:
Quote from: Priyanka on Aug 04, 03:33 AM 20161. Make up your own dozens. How you make up the dozens is charting the numbers as they come and as far as possible try to put them in such a manner that the repeat happens only at the 4th position.
Maybe check out the "outside the box" topic and get familiar with the "positions" stream first? You familiar with that? This is also covered in the Birthday Problem topics.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 25, 05:24 AM 2017
I bet it's a way of creating your own dozens based on positions and "outside the box"! As enticing as all this is I have had to pass it up for the time being till I've finished my current studies on "uniques" - suggested by praline. This shit is so powerful that it scares the shit out of me... I'm seeing some numbers coming more than other numbers! If you do ever find edge you will never use it because it's too damn scary having that kind of power and realization of reality. The results of my stats are freaking me out to the point where I need psychiatric help. Life changing - no doubt - but for the better or worse? :xd: This is one parrondo's box we should never have opened... better go back to random play.
I sometimes wonder if you function as a gatekeeper to divert the attention of minds that have navigated to a proverbial gate leading to paradise.
Lots of jumping up and down, arm-waving, implying something has been found. Only to find out there was a bug in the code. Tests are announced, that never materialize. Data that materializes is cryptic, obscured, raw.
Can you point to the page(s) that contain your most salient findings to-date?
I still suggest that if you're presentations were more clear, more people could join the effort to break the data down toward something useful toward an actual edge.
I can't say i expect anyone to divulge a systematic method with an edge, but always wonder whether generosity is the appropriate response to things that are unclear.
Quote from: Priyanka on Aug 04, 03:33 AM 20161. Make up your own dozens. How you make up the dozens is charting the numbers as they come and as far as possible try to put them in such a manner that the repeat happens only at the 4th position.
2. Betting happens for a repeat of the position of the repeater for any repeats within 3 spins. So repeat order 1 and repeat next spin, and repeat order 1 and 2 for the repeat in the 3rd spin. Not on the repeats that happen in the 4th spin.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 25, 10:42 AM 2017
Maybe check out the "outside the box" topic and get familiar with the "positions" stream first? You familiar with that? This is also covered in the Birthday Problem topics.
Will check it out, thanks.
So far my best findings was actually this morning and last night thanks to praline's tip off. Another good finding was that position 1 (Super Repeat) is tied up with higher repeat levels. I sense that you've missed some key topics over the past few weeks:
1) Priyanka's spreadsheet posted in the turbo topic regarding position 1 bets in the top repeat level
2) My topic that contained a demonstration of edge (link:://rarekungfumovies.com/private/CyclesSimulation.html)
But that edge has now been superseded thanks to praline! Incidentally, I sent him an email, but he's very busy working all the time, so I don't get a reply back from him very often. He's a good mathematician though - always shows his workings! Worth asking around if you get stuck...
In the end I predict that the best possible edge will be obtained through a positions based system like this one - but one that utilizes parachuting so that you can end up with all parlayed chips on that single winning number.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 25, 12:19 PM 2017Incidentally, I sent him an email, but he's very busy working all the time, so I don't get a reply back from him very often. He's a good mathematician though - always shows his workings! Worth asking around if you get stuck...
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I think IF I add a sentence like this
"For prices and hints, send me an email..."
I'll be rich soon. :xd:
Back to "Yet another system recipe"... I'm now ready and in a position to ask Priyanka a question...
Are the "created dozens" being ordered based on variance avoidance perhaps, but with the intention of recovering whichever type of dozen has fallen behind, i.e. deficit recovery based on outcomes that are not equally likely?
Is the ordering/re-arrangement being done perhaps based on Same/Different? "Same" is of course rrbb's position 1...
Quote from: Still on Feb 25, 10:48 AM 2017I can't say i expect anyone to divulge a systematic method with an edge, but always wonder whether generosity is the appropriate response to things that are unclear.
Still - I might have overlooked this topic and your questions on this system. If I can do anything to make it clear I will. Pls shoot.
And to Falkor, yes it is some kind of variance avoidance but not on dozens, but on cycle lengths.
Quote from: Priyanka on Apr 04, 07:02 AM 2017
Still - I might have overlooked this topic and your questions on this system. If I can do anything to make it clear I will. Pls shoot.
And to Falkor, yes it is some kind of variance avoidance but not on dozens, but on cycle lengths.
OK thanks! So with your variance avoidance technique does it require dependency and individually placed dynamic bets like your journey videos - or does it rely on playing catch-up in the long run? Traditional variance avoidance techniques don't incorporate non-random - but here you at least have the non-random cycles stream?
Quote from: Priyanka on Aug 01, 07:13 PM 2016This system is all about triggers, past spins and repeaters. It is just a mechanical system which loses as per the laws of roulette. It is not about cycles or none of that crap from random thoughts thread.
Falkor - as soon as you put the words variance avoidance, it no longer stays non random. Non random is based on events that definitely happen within a stated set of spins. Non random leaves out any other possibility.
This system is about playing catching up with the awareness that the catching up may not happen and is a fallacy.
Yeah, it seems that Non-Random events can end up becoming random events; for example:
CL1 = 33% maths expectation
CL2 = 44% maths expectation
CL3 = 22% maths expectation
CL1 vs. CL2+3 is just the same as playing 1 dozen (33%) vs. 2 dozens (66%).
If CL2+3 fell behind CL1 then we would expect CL2+3 to catch up - or 2 dozens to catch up with 1 dozen.
So the non-random part only applies up to the completion of a cycle. So why would we use cycle lengths with variance avoidance and playing catch up?
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 04, 09:57 AM 2017
So the non-random part only applies up to the completion of a cycle. So why would we use cycle lengths with variance avoidance and playing catch up?
For fun or to get satisfaction that one is trying something complex which could have been done simply.
Quote from: Priyanka on Apr 04, 10:20 AM 2017For fun or to get satisfaction that one is trying something complex which could have been done simply.
It can be made simple as you showed us in quads videos. But still, according to my tests, this betting plan is incomplete. I never coded this "method" (too complex, because of number charting, as on the 8th spin we can decied to move a nunber from one dozen to other for creating more cl3) but the same strategy is shown on Quads videos, and in the long run it gives negative results.
So something else is needed, i didn't figured out what is this "something", but i will be more then happy to read some new thoughts from people that are standing on the same stair with me.
Quote from: praline on Jun 28, 12:12 PM 2017
but the same strategy is shown on Quads videos, and in the long run it gives negative results.
So something else is needed, i didn't figured out what is this "something", but i will be more then happy to read some new thoughts from people that are standing on the same stair with me.
Ok where is quads video maybe I can help you?
Here
link:s://youtu.be/4dVbiXMIipI
This is mix low-hi, red, streets, 2nd dozen it can not be done on this way, and it is no zero roulette, too complicated. As you say not long run system, you will have better results playing only LOW-HI WITH DOZENS. So try to remove betting on red and streets and do some tests.
Quote from: MumboJumbo on Jun 29, 09:27 AM 2017This is mix low-hi, red, streets, 2nd dozen it can not be done on this way
I think its wrong.
This is only quads betting. With simple betting plan and short sessions of max 5 events.