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+5 units
flat betting
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 06, 06:23 PM 2016
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+5 units
flat betting
It's funny that you brought this up. I just was in PM with Nathan about this.
I have done several dry runs AGAIN as I have before, and I seldom come out
ahead. As a matter of fact, for a while I tried testing with the intent of playing
the 3rd, single dozen that it didn't select, and was doing pretty good for a while.
Quote from: mogul397 on Oct 07, 03:12 PM 2016
It's funny that you brought this up. I just was in PM with Nathan about this.
I have done several dry runs AGAIN as I have before, and I seldom come out
ahead. As a matter of fact, for a while I tried testing with the intent of playing
the 3rd, single dozen that it didn't select, and was doing pretty good for a while.
Im having good results with zumma
There will be losing sessions of course
Playing the single dozen with light progression could be good
Each L up top would be a win
Check the 5 DS tweak in the original thread
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 07, 03:15 PM 2016
Im having good results with zumma
There will be losing sessions of course
Playing the single dozen with light progression could be good
Each L up top would be a win
Check the 5 DS tweak in the original thread
I've gotten swings both ways. While I was testing, with my own data, I got a
KILLER string of "wins" that would have killed my single dozen attempt.
Nathan sent me a story about some guy who tried. Said he lost $300K in bacc and
loves this. But I don't see how. It's arbitrary. Just a nail in the ground to work
from that produces eventual similar results.
Saw your endorsement of the matrix. Had a problem with that too. Wish I hadn't.
Im not sure how washoo2 was thought up
But clever
I think it has potential
What does any one think that those Baccarat posters over at Bet Selections are geniuses. They are fumbling along and losing their shirt with a flair of arrogance, . Gr8player also lost $ 250,000 and is still fumbling along with his talk about variances.
The one there who doing ok is Alrelax. He knows what he is doing .
Quote from: Tamino on Oct 07, 04:56 PM 2016
What does any one think that those Baccarat posters over at Bet Selections are geniuses. They are fumbling along and losing their shirt with a flair of arrogance, . Gr8player also lost $ 250,000 and is still fumbling along with his talk about variances.
The one there who doing ok is Alrelax. He knows what he is doing .
I will tell you an honest fact. A fact that I have to approximate. I just turned 60,
and have been grinding various things on an off since I was 20 ish.
In all that time I never left losing more than $20-$30. Many trips I have made
(even recently) without a DIME in my pocket, just to watch and get date.
An exception to that was in the last 3 months or so when I tried actual play
of this 1,3,9 progression just to get it out of my system. Another was when
I went with my father in law and he gave me $40 and I lost it.
TOTAL in my life, I'm pretty sure my losses are in the low hundreds. Like
$200? $300? I don't know.
In 40 years....
But someone who loses all kinds of money (quantify it as you like) like $200-$300K
has an issue.
So that is the level of sport and play I have lived. Once in a while I give myself license to
do this or that. And I play it the way I say I will. Once in a while I made a few random $5 bets.
Don`t change now. You are better off than the cats at the racinos playing video lottery terminals. Enjoy the atmosphere of a nice casino and have a few drinks .
One quick story. About 30 years ago when I was at MIT, there was a kid who thought
he found the holy grail. And explained martingale to me.
He went to the casino to craps. He intentionally churned $1000 through the table
on pass bets. At the end he had lost $80. EXACTLY the house edge over a reasonable
set of betting.
I have this benchmark. My point is, that people who lose $300K at even chance games did so
by stupidity. You could win $300K by the same stupidity. Which has been my age old question.
I KNOW how the HE works. I also know that I will make it to the top of a mount of sand by
climbing faster than the sand gives out.
There is something intrinsic in our mentality to gambling. We SHOULD be able to take
the casino home. But no. We chase losses. If we only could put on the casino's hat, the
casino would lose this $300K to us. But other mentality prevails, and we manufacture
huge losses.
If the gentleman who had lost # 300 K at Baccarat ( EC) had he applied the powerful up and pull MM method he would be smiling today
Do your home work.
Quote from: Tamino on Oct 08, 09:28 AM 2016
If the gentleman who had lost # 300 K at Baccarat ( EC) had he applied the powerful up and pull MM method he would be smiling today
Do your home work.
I keep tryin', but you won't splain how when I test WASH002 and I lose, that I should have won.
The problem I see with up and pull is two fold.
1) It looks easier on paper than in reality.
2) The higher bets that you get, win, and pull back from don't account
for the high bets that you lose. Which are the higher amounts.
Something that I've been noticing lately is that when I make selections,
more often than not, I seem to get on a losing track.
It should be self evident. It isn't. But obviously the selection method is wrong
or bad. I think it's part of the fundamental problem with losing. I just don't see
what the other side it yet.
Losing is no problem for the casinos
Benny Binion once said " we are only satisfied when the last check of a player to us bounces".
In all honesty that's the story of life.
People are less kind as you get older. (Meaning not young).
Two axioms of $$ for me are 1) It hurts a lot more to lose
$10 than it feels good to win $10. (poor ROI)
And
2) $5 is an AWFUL LOT OF MONEY, when you don't have it.
(Seems like nothing when you have a pocket of cash, but just
run out and need something)
The up and pull method is being applied by some sharp professional gamblers in particular by John Patrick in all of hid books on gambling .
ND
The biggest and most painful lesson that I learned a few years ago during my initial forays into recreational gambling was how destructive negative progressions were to your bankroll. A lot of other people have had similar experiences and can relate to what I am saying.
Yet, on this web site you still find veteran players advocating negative progressions for use with methods that bet on 5 DS (5 !) and double dozens where things can go horrendously south even with mildly adverse sequence of spins. I find it very strange.
Dr. Sudoku,
They might be " veteran" players but they are stuck in their own trot. As the author of the WASHHOO2 IJ have never given any indication of using any progression especially not a negative one or a martingale .
One poster is harassing me for for not giving out any idea for a progression.The WASHOO2 method does not require not even the best of positive progression.It is a SHORT term play.
Here it is official : For the WASHOO 2 >>>>>> FLAT BETTING ONLY !
Intelligent people will understand what that means but for the Stu Pitts there is no help.
WASHOO2 aka Tamino and ND
Washoo2 advice
As i decode it from ND
Flat bet
3 losses in a row ends session
3 separate bankrolls
Goal: win 2 of 3 sessions
RG
Exactly as you have decoded it. Plus the DISCIPLINE to stay within the frame work of the given rules.
ND
great.! :thumbsup:
who could even thing about it...
holly grail
take twelve numbers, that casino gives you,
apply progression,
think and hope positive
and you will certenly win!
:thumbsup: great system
What are you talking about praline?
Sorry guys...
i was testing some thoughts about math limits of "n" numbers.
and i became a little nervouse when i saw, some of the most expirienced members discussing 12 numbers given you by casino.
Red line rappresent abstract limits of "sleeping numbers" (Holly Grail By John Solitude) just math limits 99,99995%
other lines are tests
What 12 numbers?
Results from real casino data
w +1
w +2
l 0
l -2
w -1
l -3
w -2
l -4
l -6
w -5
l -7
w -6
l -8
w -7
w -6
l -8
w -7
w -6
w -5
l -7
w -6
w -5
w -4
l -6
w -5
w -4
w -3
w -2
w -1
w 0
w +1
l -1
w 0
l -2
l -4
w -3
w -2
l -4
w -3
l -5
l -7
l -9
There are your 3 losses. With almost no positive action.
The results are, and have been show to be arbitrary.
Section A ******* Section B******** Section C
1 13 36 24 3 15 - 34 22 5 17 32 20 - 7 11 30 26 9 28 0
2 14 35 23 4 16 - 33 21 6 18 31 19 - 8 12 29 25 10 27 00
Section-A----number 1 - 16
Section-B----number 34 - 19
Section -C----number 7- 27
After establishing where a section has been hit place your bet accordingly:
On layout.
Hits section A ,bet First and second dozen on layout.
Hits section B, bet Second and third dozen on layout
Hits section C , bet First and Third dozen OR
Optional choice dbl . street 7 -12 , 25- 30 , and second dozen .
You simulated betting a group of those 12?
Sorry just trying to understand
I was just hypothesizing that the real roulette limits are
What are you doing there praline?
Break it down pleeeease
Re: Thank you for sharing the WASHOO2 Method
« Sent to: NathanDetroit on: October 06, 2016, 05:40:44 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
Yes, 0/00 is all Cambodia has. I am going to play here until I leave, then continue to play there while I am in Cambodia. I have never had anything like this. I could not believe my eyes when I am at the table each time. God answered my prayers by giving me your WASHOO2. You are my God. I have been beaten up by the game of baccarat for over 12 years and I am about to just call it quit, but I was praying and praying for something better. Well, you know the rest.
Here is why your method is a winner, you have more hits and you layout the exit strategy and best of all, it costs nothing to obtain it?!!
Because of my experience from baccarat, I have the discipline and patience as well combined with the method, I believe I can be a successful player. I am doing it small. I only take $300 to the table. Next week I will take $560.
Thank you ND!
There are no limits to numbers. they just keep going forever. What you need to be looking at is the ODDS ON EACH SPIN.
For example, what is the limit of number of consecutive reds you will see? 10?.. maybe 11?.. Maybe more. It depends on when you watch the spins. There's a greater chance of seeing a longer sequence if you play more. But it all doesn't make a bit of difference because the odds of red or black are still the same.
Quote from: Tamino on Oct 11, 06:31 PM 2016
Re: Thank you for sharing the WASHOO2 Method
« Sent to: NathanDetroit on: October 06, 2016, 05:40:44 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
Yes, 0/00 is all Cambodia has. I am going to play here until I leave, then continue to play there while I am in Cambodia. I have never had anything like this. I could not believe my eyes when I am at the table each time. God answered my prayers by giving me your WASHOO2. You are my God. I have been beaten up by the game of baccarat for over 12 years and I am about to just call it quit, but I was praying and praying for something better. Well, you know the rest.
Here is why your method is a winner, you have more hits and you layout the exit strategy and best of all, it costs nothing to obtain it?!!
Because of my experience from baccarat, I have the discipline and patience as well combined with the method, I believe I can be a successful player. I am doing it small. I only take $300 to the table. Next week I will take $560.
Thank you ND!
IT's a very nice endorsement.
If true, then it should be easy to reproduce. And consistant.
But it's not.
The MM rules must be followed
3 loases in a row or 30 percent BR damage quit session
Goal is 2 out of 3
Mogul
Sorry that my post need mod approval.
Good Bye to this forum
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 12, 03:01 PM 2016
The MM rules must be followed
3 loases in a row or 30 percent BR damage quit session
Goal is 2 out of 3
Take 3 independent runs (or whatever it takes) and show it.
Quote from: Tamino on Oct 12, 04:09 PM 2016
Mogul
Sorry that my post need mod approval.
Good Bye to this forum
That is always the case. All posts need mod approval.
I know a guy who was arguing with me about something. A speaker. Finally
I asked if he had ever watched the speaker. He said "no". But he knew all
about why he was wrong.
Same with your method. You "read and post" comments about how great your method
is, but nothing concete. Heck, in this case I would assume that you don't even know the
guy who sent the endorsement. Makes you like the other guy I know.
Like they said in math class "Show your work".
I run through these 3 pages of the thread but to be honest, I couldn't see anywhere the instructions to the washoo2 method. Did I miss something? Are the instructions only PMed to specific members? Or how at least it looks like and based on what it is designed?
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