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Title: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 20, 06:14 AM 2016
For people that dont understand the simple rules here, Ill elaborate.

My job here is protecting the balance between free speech, and a friendly and productive environment. It does no good to have a happy go lucky forum where we tug each other and nobody says anything that might be upsetting. And it does not good to have a constant negative and condcending attitude towards others. The required balance for a fun and productive forum is between honesty and discretion. Basically honesty, with manners.

I recognize you need to be able to call a spade a spade, but calling someones system "retarded" is over the line. Is that really difficult to grasp? It is more appropriate to explain why a system wont work. And if you dont even have enough information to help others understand WHY the system fails, then you are in no position to accuse someone of scamming. Yes I know almost every system being sold is a scam, but if I let people call every seller retarded or a scammer, without details even being known, then it shits on the possibility that maybe a system has something to offer. Maybe it doesnt, but you never know, until you know.

Some people accuse me of attacking systems that might threaten the 120% edge of computers. I know its just a stupid childish claim when someone doesnt have brains to think of something better. It comes from a kid having a spat. But yes ND, Im terrified I might find something better to use for myself - like one of your systems. Then other people accuse me of helping scams. The reality? Im just protecting the balance. Remember i even allowed alabalah until his scam became so blatantly obvious.

As for people who think my decisions are inconsistent. Actually the rules are clear and specific. If they are not understood, you might get confused when you are moderated after constant complaints, and upon view me finding the past hundred or so of your posts are mostly bickering and negativity, with few contributions. And no its not that the world hates you. Its how you treat others to begin, and they respond. You make your own bed. Its not rocket science. Dont take it personally, and dont blame me for taking the most appropriate option. Moderation.

I run a fair and balanced forum. I dont run an unmoderated mess like gf, which almost entirely consists of people banned and complaining about other boards. Look at how you all behave there. Thats grown up? And you wonder why you get banned at other forums. If protecting the blalance means you get moderated, it says more about you than me. But its easier to blame and criticize me. Im the one with the problem, right? Grow up guys.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Taotie on Oct 20, 07:51 AM 2016
>> It does no good to have a happy go lucky forum where we tug each …

I hope you meant hug each other?


>> if I let people call every seller retarded or a scammer, without details even being known, then it shits on the possibility that maybe a system has something to offer…

You could probably still allow people to cry scammer and let the seller rebut. At least until it becomes obvious either way.



>> Some people accuse me of attacking systems that might threaten the 120% edge of computers…

The very best systems are unlikely to ever challenge a computer’s 120% edge, but using computers is perilous. So what edge would be a realistic compromise for a system that removed any peril?
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 12:15 PM 2016
Caleb should never be allowed back

Today on the sad excuse of a forum: GF, he called nowun a "fruit cake" for eating organically and playing "remote viewing"

I dont care how good he is at beating roulette, he is a rude, closed minded, POS

The atitude of "do as i do or you're wrong" is a regressive attitude

For someone so smart he surely has a closed mind.

His message is fine. The way its delivered makes everyone not interested. This makes him NOT smart

A golden egg cannot be delivered by a devil.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 20, 05:53 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 12:15 PM 2016Today on the sad excuse of a forum: GF, he called nowun a "fruit cake" for eating organically and playing "remote viewing"

What Caleb needs to understand it is valid science. It is well documented that the CIA spent a lot of time working with those methods, and credible people have come forward stating remote viewing is secretly used in modern warfare. But "remote viewing" is actually a different thing to precognition. Remote viewing is observing places, whereas precognition is predicting events. As for precognition, there is also ample evidence supporting it is valid science. If Caleb or anyone so easily dismisses it, who cares.

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 12:15 PM 2016I dont care how good he is at beating roulette, he is a rude, closed minded, POS

I do agree with you on this.

QuoteFor someone so smart he surely has a closed mind.

Understanding techniques that are easily learned from books, and basic roulette probability and edge, does not make someone smart. I don't know anywhere near enough about to him to know if he's "smart" (ie highly intelligent).

Anyway I see he's criticizing the threads on this forum. I find that amusing considering two of the largest and longest running threads on gf are attacking people and other forums. We don't allow trash here. I'm not being biased, but I think here we have a good balance that achieves a friendly and productive environment.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 05:54 PM 2016
Remote viewing is actual science and it's fascinating
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 20, 06:16 PM 2016
Quote from: Taotie on Oct 20, 07:51 AM 2016I hope you meant hug each other?

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Quote from: Taotie on Oct 20, 07:51 AM 2016You could probably still allow people to cry scammer and let the seller rebut. At least until it becomes obvious either way

Yes they can, but if there is an accusation like that, there should still be manners about it. A scammer has an appropriate definition, whereas "retarded" is inappropriate. If a system seller doesnt want to prove any of their claims and just wants to draw people to PM, then thats not allowed. It is stated in the forum rules. If you want to sell something, do it in the open where there can be open criticism and questions etc.

Quote from: Taotie on Oct 20, 07:51 AM 2016The very best systems are unlikely to ever challenge a computer’s 120% edge, but using computers is perilous. So what edge would be a realistic compromise for a system that removed any peril?

It's nowhere near as "perilous" as most people think. I know so many players that play routinely as if it's just what they do. Myself included. And we never play illegally. Like we'd never play in Vegas - that's suicide.
Its not hard to avoid detection, but that's not the point. It's not worth the risk when there are ample legal places.

Next best to roulette computers (in terms of edge) would be visual ballistics in perfect conditions, but that's very hard to come by. A lot of vb players talk about magic techniques that deal with ball deceleration or rotor speed changes, but it's mostly fantasy because such techniques are not realistically viable for players who arent super-human. And why bother struggling with advanced vb when even a basic computer does the same thing so easily.

Next best are methods that get predictions before ball release. There are many ways to do this. I roll all the best methods into a single method, which is what my JAA system is. And combine it with a statistical analysis called "cross referencing". Basically normally proper analysis needs tonnes of spins and its not so practical for most players. But cross referencing checks for consistency between different parts of the data, so it builds a clearer picture of that's happening. Basically a dynamic model of the wheel, where if one variable changes, the predictions are adapted. The best edge you can get with such an approach is about 15%. But often a player will get just a 2-5% or so, which is still profitable. But despite the cross referencing, it is not possible to know for certain what the edge is until perhaps thousands of spins are tested. Nothing in roulette is short term (besides roulette computers).
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: mogul397 on Oct 20, 06:23 PM 2016
I was away for a week.

Can't believe I came back to more of this.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 20, 06:32 PM 2016
Actually what you missed was better moderation of the nonsense. Take a closer look. I was just explaining WHY I moderated members, because they were complaining about it on other forums. I made the rules clearer so there should be no confusion about what's unacceptable.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: nowun on Oct 20, 06:58 PM 2016
Quote from: Steve on Oct 20, 05:53 PM 2016But "remote viewing" is actually a different thing to precognition. Remote viewing is observing places, whereas precognition is predicting events.

Yep you are absolutely right.  I only call it remote viewing because that is what others have called it when involving roulette number prediction.  Precognition is what it really is.  We all have the ability, the trouble is most are too closed minded or scared to learn how to use it.  It is easier to ridicule than embrace.

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 12:15 PM 2016I dont care how good he is at beating roulette, he is a rude, closed minded, POS
We only have his word for it that he can beat roulette.  I take everything he says with a grain of salt.  Bitter old loser comes to mind regularly whenever I read his posts.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 20, 07:08 PM 2016
I agree. And people have believed in a lot wackier things. Like a race of evil reptiles invading our planet, led by a master serpent. And he's out to enslave us all and make us worship him mwahaha. That's Christianity and many other religions. Maybe there are "reptillians", who knows. Never seen one, but space is mighty big.

And anyone who's had experience with hallucinogens will understand its not really hallucination. Yes its easy to judge if you have no experience. It's not quite hallucination. It's something else. It is like poking your head through a portal to something very, very different - but also very familiar, like its your real home. Its a place where time and space is meaningless. Sounds cliche but its true. Anyone who's experienced it will better understand this physical reality is a lot more fluid and arbitrary than it seems. And being able to "sense" an event (precognition) is really not so unrealistic at all.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 08:13 PM 2016
David icke and the lizard peeps

I mean im into conspiracies

But the whole lizard people politician thing is insane
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: paulee on Oct 20, 08:14 PM 2016
Quote from: Steve on Oct 20, 06:32 PM 2016Actually what you missed was better moderation of the nonsense.

Good work.  The forum has needed it for a while.  It was becoming unfriendly.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 20, 08:25 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 08:13 PM 2016But the whole lizard people politician thing is insane

I know it sounds ridiculous. But if you do lots of research on it, you find there are some odd things about the bloodlines of specific families. Not that they're space reptilians. I mean that these elite are largely related.

Once Icke said something like he knew someone who saw the queen of England shapeshift. While nothing is impossible, I think that kind of talk is unsubstantiated and without sufficient foundation. I'm not saying its true or false. I'm saying there's f*** all proof of the claims, so don't make the claims. The only "proof" I've seen of shapeshifting are videos on youtube and its not at all convincing. He needs to stick to what he can prove, like what the banking elite do.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 08:30 PM 2016
No doubt the blood lines link

Ive watched more conspiracy videos then i could count

Ive calmed down over the years

One day watch "the disclosure project"

Its ex military and high ranking officials talking about aliens. Its on youtube

Astronaut edgar mitchell says roswell was real and they recovered aliens
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 20, 08:33 PM 2016
I have little doubt other intelligent life exists. It's absurd to think we are the only ones.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 20, 08:40 PM 2016
Its cool being American

We are on the front lines of being a slave to monsanto and pharmaceuticals and vaccines

We are as dumbed down as they come

Fluoride anyone?
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 20, 11:19 PM 2016
If you watch videos from Mark Dice, you get an idea of how dumb people are, and why the elite have so much power.

ps - Its probably best not to bother with Ken. He just sent me messages calling me F's and C's and now making it clear he's waging jihad against me by posting lots of bad links about me... as revenge. For what? For moderating the forum. At least we now better know how dishonest and spiteful ken is. After all its hard to attack me when the truth isnt suitable for revenge. Nowun and rg, you're better off leaving him alone. You're already being called my "shills". Alabalah said the same thing when people called him an idiot, when it had nothing to do with me. Unfortunately being a mod makes you a target. He's also got a jihad against Turner but ken hasn't got rubbish links to post about him.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Azim on Oct 20, 11:39 PM 2016
When, someone comes out and says people are taking pictures of their notebook. You know they are full of S...

Guy's does he think we really that d.. to believe it?  Like people care who anyone is at the casino? Unless they hit huge and it's all over the place. Even then we will never be told how much they lost before they won so much.

Really you want to spend your valuable time for that?
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: nowun on Oct 21, 08:00 AM 2016
Quote from: Steve on Oct 20, 08:33 PM 2016I have little doubt other intelligent life exists. It's absurd to think we are the only ones.

Without a doubt.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: Steve on Oct 20, 11:19 PM 2016At least we now better know how dishonest and spiteful ken is. After all its hard to attack me when the truth isnt suitable for revenge. Nowun and rg, you're better off leaving him alone. You're already being called my "shills".

I have to say I am not totally surprised, he has shown himself to be a real knob now.  What does surprise me is ND throwing his lot in with him, I didn't think he was that stupid.  Caleb I understand.  :o  He has always caused trouble on whatever board he is on, has been doing it for years.


Quote from: Azim on Oct 20, 11:39 PM 2016When, someone comes out and says people are taking pictures of their notebook. You know they are full of S...

Who said that? MrJ?  Seriously why would anyone bother. 
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Azim on Oct 21, 01:58 PM 2016
Quote from: Turner on Oct 21, 09:49 AM 2016
Wow...  he is so angry at GF.
More to that anger than meets the eye.

All I have to say is he is predictable and he can dig his own grave fast.

But very good and talented at blaming others for his own faults.

Just like a crying wolf.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Turner on Oct 21, 02:27 PM 2016
Anyhow.....I just read the rules front to back
Very reasonable and concise
I suggest people take a minute to do the same.
Its worth it
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 21, 06:13 PM 2016
I find amusing how for years Ken acts like hes a big dogg with a winning "method", he calls you newbies but he has nothing. Just delusion. I dont care about his name calling. He'll never grow up. He was even removed as mod because he abused it by mass removing posts that made him look bad.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: nowun on Oct 22, 03:09 AM 2016
Quote from: Steve on Oct 21, 06:13 PM 2016He'll never grow up.
Bullies AKA crybabies never do.

Quote from: Steve on Oct 21, 06:13 PM 2016He was even removed as mod because he abused it by mass removing posts that made him look bad.
That does not surprise.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Taotie on Oct 22, 07:02 AM 2016
Quote from: Turner on Oct 21, 02:27 PM 2016
I just read the rules front to back...

As Bombus, I did precisely that before I banned Ken from VLS a few years ago. Given the current climate on the forums, I now feel totally vindicated for my actions at the time. My head rolled and Ken got promoted, but I know I followed the rules and did the right thing. Pity Steve didn't back me up back then. Too much of a leap of faith I suppose.. no hard feelings.

Quote from: Steve on Oct 21, 06:13 PM 2016
He was even removed as mod because he abused it by mass removing posts that made him look bad.

I explained to you he was doing exactly the same thing for several months when I banned him from VLS. Only he was grossly targeting my posts. Granted many of them were related to him, and I made him look bad (within the rules), but then he started deleting my posts that were roulette related discussions with other members. I got fed up, mainly with his abuse of privilege and so removed him. OK, perhaps I went over Steve’s head by pulling the trigger without Admin backup, but hey, at least I got to ban MrJ, even if only for a brief time and at my own demise. :)

Quote from: Steve on Oct 20, 11:19 PM 2016
now making it clear he's waging jihad against me...

I told you at the time you ditched me for banning Ken that he had jihad intentions for you, and all it needed was a little push. But that fell on deaf ears.

Quote from: Steve on Oct 20, 11:19 PM 2016At least we now better know how dishonest and spiteful ken is.

Actually you always knew. Don’t forget, I come from the days of the ‘Vagina Club’ ;) where Ken was always at the forefront of discussion when it came to pestilent members, and that was many years ago....I still can't believe you ever made him a mod, given all our history.


Quote from: Steve on Oct 20, 11:19 PM 2016
He's also got a jihad against Turner but ken hasn't got rubbish links to post about him.

Turner is a cool customer. Ken will unleash his dog’s and burn bridges down to no affect.




Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Turner on Oct 22, 02:03 PM 2016
Quote from: Taotie on Oct 22, 07:02 AM 2016Turner is a cool customer

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Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Alekos on Oct 22, 03:06 PM 2016
Quote from: Taotie on Oct 22, 07:02 AM 2016Turner is a cool customer.

And an active useful moderator.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 22, 10:11 PM 2016
From what i recall, i had to remove you as mod because of a clear abuse as mod to win arguments with ken. I don't recall exact details. I was not siding with anyone.  If I was biased, I would have let it happen. Something ken needs to keep in mind when he accuses me of being biased. Anyway there never were hard feelings from my end. I enjoyed your familiar sense of humor. And shipments.

Yes ken has been a constant issue on all forums. He digs his own holes then complains.

I made him mod because i believed he could do the job providing he follow basic rules. He was around enough too. And for a while he did a good job.  His problem was he was at the center of bullshit in other forums too, and it spilled here. Mostly he created it for himself.  A mod needs respect from all members, and the right temperament, which he didn't have. Anyway it ended with him letting his personal crap with other members lead to abuse of mod status. And then dug his final hole by threatening, abusing and backstabbing me when all i did was ask members if they thought anyone should be banned. He attacked me thinking lots of people would say to ban him, but nobody did. There's more to it but whatever. Now he has his jihad, and i don't care.  That's where the story ends.

Stick around and perhaps we can create a new vagina collaborative. Your ideas can be valuable.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Taotie on Oct 23, 03:17 AM 2016
No, Steve.

I was a very fair and consistent mod for a long time, even before you bought VLS.

You removed me because I banned Ken after putting up with his crap for weeks. End of story.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 04:38 AM 2016
I would not remove you for just banning him. Bans are common. I recall there was something clearly unjustified in my view abuse of power. It could have been a misunderstanding, but I didn't jump to my decision lightly. In any case, i hope there really are no hard feelings.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 10:28 AM 2016
Ken, you might want to check the accuracy of the lies you cut and pasted. Although i know facts are irrelevant to any liar. You really need to take a look at life choices, who youre really mad at, what you've become. Good luck.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Turner on Oct 23, 02:25 PM 2016
Jesus....such venom. He has no gripe with you in any of his cut and pastes. Just jumping on the bandwagon.

I think his behavior is disgraceful.

Steve, I have banned him. Mainly to support you, but also, I dont want him posting here.

I dont want to approve or unapprove his posts.

I know you will reverse it, no problem, but call it my 2 cents, but also an indication as to where I am as a moderator, on the subject.


Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 06:12 PM 2016
Quote from: Turner on Oct 23, 02:25 PM 2016Jesus....such venom. He has no gripe with you in any of his cut and pastes.

Its misdirected anger and frustration with his own life. It actually has nothing to do with me.

Quote from: Turner on Oct 23, 02:25 PM 2016I think his behavior is disgraceful.

He'd be around 45 or so. Incredible isnt it.

QuoteSteve, I have banned him. Mainly to support you, but also, I dont want him posting here.

Thanks. I had no intention of allowing him back anyway.

QuoteI know you will reverse it, no problem, but call it my 2 cents, but also an indication as to where I am as a moderator, on the subject.

Now don't be like that. It's not uncommon for a moderator to make a decision I don't agree with, but I still trust their judgement and very rarely reverse their decision. With ken specifically, we're on the same page. The difference is probably I had more patience (not always a good thing).

Ken, I'll give you some advice later when I have time. Basically, you need to look in the mirror and do some thinking.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 07:56 PM 2016
Ken, consider this my parting words.

I don't think anyone believes you beat roulette. You troll forums calling people rookies, but have nothing. That's partly why people don't like you. You trolled with a massive ego, even as a moderator. Not long ago you expressed to me you weren't doing well with roulette and were interested in buying a roulette computer. Only since recent conflict have you told me otherwise. Unfortunately it's not legal in your casino.

In your arguments with especially Caleb, often you said if he beat roulette, he wouldn’t waste time with forums. You spend more time than anyone on forums.

You are unwelcome and find conflict on every forum. But you think other people are the problem. I know you think Caleb your buddy now, but I'm sure he still sees you the same way except now you do a little brown-nosing. He made you look stupid for so long so having him stop would be a relief for you. I have nothing against Caleb, other than he is intentionally abrasive to people for amusement.

You forget I know you well now. Beneath your tough-guy exterior is legitimate depression. Perhaps this is why I was so tolerant of your behavior towards others. But I do not pitty you anymore. You've made your own choices, and continue to make bad choices.

You always blame other people instead of yourself. A man does not blame others for his bad choices. A man does not cut and paste a bunch of lies about other people like an Alabalah. That's what a coward does, because he won't take responsibility for his own unhappiness. Blaming everyone and everything is easier. You will have seen my responses to the rubbish before and know the facts. But you don't care. You only aim to harm me. The dishonesty and manipulation is disgusting, but what's even worse is you appear proud of it.

You are so full of hatred to even say you so badly want RG to die in a car crash. You have had such hatred with so many other people. This is not normal Ken. You have real problems.

I noticed after the personal issue in your life which I wont get into, your bitterness towards others amplified. As a friend, I gave you personal advice about it and you took the opposite road, then inevitably you became even more full of hatred. It just so happens I'm in your sights for now. But anyone whos in your sights will be attacked. Although it's easier to vent with me because you merely need to cut and paste with some foul language, and it feels better to blame others, right? Someone already made convenient trash to cut and paste. It's easy for you to forget the fact almost everyone has a problem with you. The same thing happened with Alabalah. Everyone hated him, he was full if shit and had to go, but he blamed me.

I'm no stranger to being attacked now. And one common thing with people who attack me is they are unhappy with their own life. They are broke, lonely people who are mad at the world and blame everyone. That's why they fight with everyone. Bago fought with everyone. Mark Howe fought with everyone. Alabalah still fights with everyone. He can't even post on an unmoderated forum without being booed off stage. See the pattern?

I'm quite comfortable and happy, and not interested in conflict. I'm not "angry", although I will sometimes respond to utter garbage.

You think you are getting "revenge" because I "screwed" you. No Ken, you did it to yourself. You fought with just about everyone here. You created negativity and problems then complained when people get angry with you. And when I asked for member feedback about who causes conflict around here, you attacked me on another forum. Why? Because you expected to be banned. Why? Because of your own behavior. Why? Because you are bitter and depressed. Why? Because of your own bad choices. You did it all yourself. It's just easier to blame me for your screw ups than to look at yourself, right?

And with me telling you this, you hate me even more. Drop the ego, see the truth, and take responsibility for your life instead of blaming others. Will you? Nope. You'll just attack me more, because I have balls to tell you the truth.

I know this post will motivate you further but I don’t care about your petty attacks. Anyone I care about knows me well enough to know all about the trash talk. And anyone interested in my roulette technology can easily test it all before buying anything - or even get it free and pay me from winnings. And if they actually believe the crap people like you cut and paste, how unfortunate for them. Eventually even mark howe learned destroying his life to inconvenience me was not worth it. Eventually you will learn the same and if you don't, then to be more stupid than mark is phenomenal. Well done.

Instead of blaming everything on me, you need to look at yourself in the mirror. Trace back everything that happened, and you'll find you are 100% to blame. I did nothing to you.

What I'm trying to say ken, in the nicest possible way: grow up. I don't like you (I once did), but I am not your enemy. The world is not your enemy. Instead of finding an easy target to blow off some steam, recognize how pathetic you have become. Once you see this reality, understand anyone can change instantly. Will you ever change? As I see it, not a chance. Will now stop blaming your life on me? Even less likely because I have the balls tell you how it is. But I don't care. I'm not going to waste my life explaining it all to you. You must be nearly 50 now.

If anyone has some final comments, make them then I'll close this thread, and move on from this garbage.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: nowun on Oct 23, 09:26 PM 2016
Very well written and probably as close to the truth as you could get.  He will never admit it though.  His ego is far too in control for that.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Azim on Oct 23, 09:30 PM 2016
I am going to ask you all to think about this:  Especially you RG.

In business we say don't waste good money chasing bad.
RG, why on earth are you still replying to his posts on the other forum?

He was and is still bad money for people. Why are we still wasting time on this?

RG, stop posting on his thread. You coming out to look as bad as he his.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 09:42 PM 2016
RG isnt making himself look bad. But he is wasting his time. Ken is truly lost. If you give him time, you waste your own time.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Azim on Oct 23, 09:52 PM 2016
Wow, did he really write that!!!  I just read it. in open words.(wishing RG to die in a car crash)

He has posted RG registration date and mine too on there.  Well he has a diary full off names as to when people registered.  That's going overboard and shows how stable his mind is..
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 23, 09:56 PM 2016
He keeps a notebook regarding the forum and its members
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Azim on Oct 23, 10:00 PM 2016
I am curious as to how(keeping notes of forum members start dates and smites given out) does that help someone win in roulette?
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 10:07 PM 2016
Yes he's obsessed and really does need help. Literally. There's far more to it. I got to know him well and I know he's annoying, but keep in mind he really is one step from legitimate mental illness. I'm not trying to have a go at him. I really mean it. You don't argue with a mentally ill person. It's pointless.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Azim on Oct 23, 10:11 PM 2016
I don't want to blow my own trumpet, but I had a feeling something was wrong when I had an argument with him.

You could read it between lines. As was one of my questions to him, if he didn't like it here why come back?  Some people are just craving attention. Hate to say it.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Alekos on Oct 24, 12:57 AM 2016
Quote from: Azim on Oct 23, 10:11 PM 2016I don't want to blow my own trumpet, but I had a feeling something was wrong when I had an argument with him.

He have a problem with everyone, with one or two exceptions.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Oct 24, 06:29 AM 2016
I found his old posts (when he talked about his various betting methods) thought-provoking -- but of late he has gone off the deep end for reasons that he only knows best.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 24, 08:26 AM 2016
He has reached the Chevy Chase "fixing the newel post" phase from Christmas Vacation

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Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 24, 09:49 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 24, 08:26 AM 2016He has reached the Chevy Chase "fixing the newel post" phase from Christmas Vacation

Well catching his girlfriend in bed with another guy is bound to worsen the mental state of an already troubled mind. That's when his behavior really went to the sewer. He takes his problems out on others. There's more but I'll spare him the embarrassment.

And Ken, the 32 people wanting refunds from me is a load of bullshit. Like I said, you are posting a bunch of blatant lies. And even when there is a shred of truth, it is blatantly distorted. You're no better than any other liar with malicious intent - no integrity, and no honesty. That's who you are. Also why the hell would you bring turner into it anyway? You were moderator here, supposedly helping me run my scam for years. Yes I know there is no logic, just hatred. Ken you've lost all sense of reality and need help.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 24, 10:13 PM 2016
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Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 24, 10:50 PM 2016
What, that? It's just friendly banter after he made his intentions to continue clear. I don't need "shots fired". Ken is quite capable of destroying himself trying to destroy others. Grab some popcorn and watch his obsession grow, while not realizing he's his own worst enemy. The last time I warned someone they were harming themselves, they later accused me of ruining his life when I did nothing.
Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 24, 11:29 PM 2016
Ken can have his own page so I dont need to repeat myself to anyone that asks:
link:://:.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com/mrj/

He's in the same boat as Alabalah.

Title: Re: The forum rules in English
Post by: Steve on Oct 24, 11:41 PM 2016
For convenience:

"Mr J" ("Ken") is an ex-member of my roulette forum. He was banned for poor behavior towards other members. As revenge for banning him, he seeks to harm me by "re-posting" nonsense about me from Mark Howe's websites. He does not care that the material is nonsense. Ken is one of a few banned member who attack me for "revenge".

Why Ken Was Banned

Basically, Ken creates conflict and is unwelcome at every forum - not just my forums. For example, he attacked others calling them "rookies", while privately telling me he continued to lose at roulette. He quite clearly has a gambling problem. That's his business, but as a forum admin, I could see both sides where he taunted others for losing, but was losing himself. Essentially he was lying and "trolling" while claiming other people were the problem.

At one stage, Ken was a forum moderator and almost a friend. But he had personal problems leading to obsessive and unstable behavior which became worse after some personal problems he was having. My attempts to help him failed, and his behavior towards other members became worse.

Eventually I discovered he was secretly moderating large sections of the forum to help him win arguments with other members. So I removed him as a moderator, and allowed him to hide the real reason he was removed.

Later he returned to the forum, but he never contributed anything. He simply aggravated other members, then complained when they responded. The conflict reached a point where I openly asked other members if they think anyone should be banned. And before I even mentioned what other members said, Ken began attacking me and calling me various names - presumably because he was expecting to be banned. So as a matter of respect, I asked him to not post at my forum again. He ignored my request, and was banned.

Now for "revenge", he cuts and pastes sections from Mark Howe's websites in attempt to discredit me. His motives are purely malicious, and he does not care that the material he posts is full of blatant lies.

It's not just me he attacks. His frustration and hatred is extremely intense. One example is he said he hated one member so much that he "so badly wished they died in a car crash". There are many other examples, but the information here is sufficient to understand his motives. Unfortunately Ken has a lot of personal problems, and he takes his problems out on other people.