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Title: Two Twins
Post by: Willie on Nov 06, 01:52 AM 2016
This is a double dozen method.
I am following 1,3,9 progression for now since more testing needs to be done
Holding up pretty good for now but a full BR loss may be on the way so got to come up with a better money management technique

Here it goes >>


After a dozen sequence like 1,1,2 bet the next dozen won't be 2

Initial tests on American wheel:

Max loss in a row = 2

1. 50 spins - 6W, 3L

0,9,32,9,15,23,0,19,33,15,12,28,26,25,27,36,3,14,17,19,19,12,30,20,19,28,16,27,13,19,15,26,28,23,7,3,25,1,33,16,16,10,28,32,21,24,00,15,33,5

0,1,3,1,2,2,0,2,3,2,1,3,3,3,3,3,1,2,2,2,2,1,3,2,2,3,2,3,2,2,2,3,3,2,1,1,3,1,3,2,2,1,3,3,2,2,0,2,3,1

L,L,W,W,W,W,W,W,L

2. 50 spins- 7W, 4L

30,21,4,30,30,4,17,5,14,17,28,16,1,2,31,23,20,1,23,35,22,6,11,00,35,27,23,24,00,27,5,9,15,23,36,24,24,7,11,2,24,3,36,17,23,4,2,28,24,28,

3,2,1,3,3,1,21,2,2,3,2,1,1,3,2,2,1,2,3,2,1,1,0,3,3,2,2,0,3,1,1,2,2,3,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,3,2,2,1,1,3,2,3

W,W,W,W,L,L,W,L,W,L,W

3. 50 spins- 6W, 1L

16,4,0,18,10,31,36,35,2,22,8,00,25,36,20,4,18,2,27,6,5,23,35,00,19,15,14,31,34,15,35,16,12,29,3,28,17,7,18,26,35,26,14,9,23,4,16,17,1,10,

2,1,0,2,1,3,3,3,1,2,1,0,3,3,2,1,2,1,3,1,1,2,3,0,2,2,2,3,3,2,3,2,1,3,1,3,2,1,2,3,3,3,2,1,2,1,2,2,1,1

W,W,W,W,W,W,L

4. 50 spins- 6W, 4L

27,32,32,4,4,5,3,13,5,1,33,22,0,29,26,34,26,14,28,33,5,28,15,23,32,10,30,29,25,10,2,14,00,28,33,0,34,26,27,00,4,33,28,24,6,28,2,9,00,11

3,3,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,2,0,3,3,3,3,2,3,3,1,3,2,2,3,1,3,3,3,1,1,1,0,3,3,0,3,3,3,0,1,3,3,2,1,3,1,1,0,1

W,L,W,L,W,W,W,L,L,W




Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: blueman on Nov 06, 02:34 AM 2016
ha, ha Wille, I'm playing for rehearsal last 7 days and for now perfectly okay. It kind of scares progression? 221 so play 2/3. If there 1 wait for the next release with 221/332/112/223 ................ etc. Progression 1-3-9-27 .. Most wins in the first attempt, a maximum of 27 I was in, but only once.
Sorry, Goggle  english :-[
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: blueman on Nov 06, 02:48 AM 2016
it seems absolutely impossible (if the fair random game) lost for the fifth time in a row?????? :question:
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: Willie on Nov 06, 03:26 AM 2016
Quote from: blueman on Nov 06, 02:34 AM 2016
ha, ha Wille, I'm playing for rehearsal last 7 days and for now perfectly okay. It kind of scares progression? 221 so play 2/3. If there 1 wait for the next release with 221/332/112/223 ................ etc. Progression 1-3-9-27 .. Most wins in the first attempt, a maximum of 27 I was in, but only once.
Sorry, Goggle  english :-[

Blueman, what I am getting from your post is that you ran your last 7 day spins (how many??) using this method and the max you went in the 1,3,9,27 progression was the 4th step and that too just once. Is that right?
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: blueman on Nov 06, 09:49 AM 2016
exactly a friend, from word to word! About 1,000 spins. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: blueman on Nov 06, 11:43 AM 2016
Fairy tale has ended (BVNZ - play money), wins the fifth round of progression 1-3-9-27-81?!Unbelievable but true. Martingale is a big no- no! We need something better. :sad2:
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 06, 09:30 PM 2016
Hey blueman. Some friendly advice if you are serious about playing and testing this strategy:

Try it on real roulette instead of RNG

Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: Willie on Nov 06, 10:38 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 06, 09:30 PM 2016
Hey blueman. Some friendly advice if you are serious about playing and testing this strategy:

Try it on real roulette instead of RNG

True words RG
Also mine tests are on real wheel
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Nov 07, 12:50 AM 2016
Yes, I second RG on that point. And real roulette includes both live dealer and airball (some might disagree with the latter, I understand that).
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: blueman on Nov 07, 01:17 AM 2016
True, but if the numbers are randomly drawn ......??  Game is a lot faster this way (quickly loses) :sad2: Thanks
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 07, 07:47 AM 2016
The debate will go on until the sun swallows earth in 5 billion years

In my opinion, even if the rng is truly random, it will not behave 100 percent like roulette
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: Willie on Nov 19, 01:29 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 07, 07:47 AM 2016
The debate will go on until the sun swallows earth in 5 billion years

In my opinion, even if the rng is truly random, it will not behave 100 percent like roulette

I second that.
Try this with live wheel spins, you might be pleasantly surprised if you stop each session at 50 spins
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: tuddilue on Nov 20, 05:14 AM 2016
Quote from: Willie on Nov 06, 01:52 AM 2016
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4. 50 spins- 6W, 4L

27,32,32,4,4,5,3,13,5,1,33,22,0,29,26,34,26,14,28,33,5,28,15,23,32,10,30,29,25,10,2,14,00,28,33,0,34,26,27,00,4,33,28,24,6,28,2,9,00,11

3,3,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,2,0,3,3,3,3,2,3,3,1,3,2,2,3,1,3,3,3,1,1,1,0,3,3,0,3,3,3,0,1,3,3,2,1,3,1,1,0,1

W,L,W,L,W,W,W,L,L,W
Hi interesting method as always. I just wonder can you write out exactly when the win and loss come in for example this spins sequence?
For example
27, 3
32, 3
32, 3
4, 1 trigger
4, 1 Loss
As you see I did a bet after 3,3,1. I just realized that I did something wrong because your first was a W not a loss  :smile:
- Tudiilue
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: Willie on Nov 23, 12:27 AM 2016
Quote from: tuddilue on Nov 20, 05:14 AM 2016
Hi interesting method as always. I just wonder can you write out exactly when the win and loss come in for example this spins sequence?
For example
27, 3
32, 3
32, 3
4, 1 trigger
4, 1 Loss
As you see I did a bet after 3,3,1. I just realized that I did something wrong because your first was a W not a loss  :smile:
- Tudiilue

Thanks..
Actually 3,3,3 is also a trigger to bet against 3 on the next spin. Hope that makes it clear
Like-

3
3
3- trigger
1- win
1
2-trigger
3-win
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: tuddilue on Nov 23, 09:23 AM 2016
Thanks willie. But I still doesn't get it.
I run through the sequence I had in my answer.
I have added your W or L and also my comment:
3
3
3
1 W
1
1
1
2 L? (But its a win?)
1
1
3 W
2
0
3
3
3
3
2 L? (But its a win?)
3
3
1 W
3
2
2
3 W
1
3
3
3
1 W
1
1
0 L
3
3
0 L
3
3
3
0 W? (But its a loss?)
1
3
3
2
1
3
1
1
0
1
- Tuddilue
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: tuddilue on Nov 23, 10:07 AM 2016
Let me rephrase that. Of course I get it. But I do not understand why your examples differs so much when I run them.
Maybe I do something wrong?
Can you have a look on my example here above...
- Tuddilue
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: Willie on Nov 28, 09:03 PM 2016
Quote from: tuddilue on Nov 23, 09:23 AM 20163
3
3
1 W
1
1
1
2 L? (But its a win?)
1
1
3 W
2
0
3
3
3
3
2 L? (But its a win?)
3
3
1 W
3
2
2
3 W
1
3
3
3
1 W
1
1
0 L
3
3
0 L
3
3
3
0 W? (But its a loss?)
1
3
3
2
1
3
1
1
0
1

Hi Tuddilue,

I am afraid to say that you did get it wrong.
Here is the spin wise play:

3
3
3
1 W (Bet against 3)- Here we considered 3,3 to be one dozen type and then the next 3 to be a new dozen type so placed the bet that 4th spin won't repeat the new dozen type
1
1
1 L (Bet against 1)- Same logic as above
2
1 W (Bet against 2)- This would be simpler to undersand, after 1,1,2 we bet that it won't become 1,1,2,2 so we bet against 2
1
3
2 W (Bet against 2)
0
3
3
3
3 L (Bet against 3)
2
3 W (Bet against 2)
3
1
3 W (Bet against 1)
2
2
3
1 W (Bet against 3)
3
3
3
1 W (Bet against 3)
1
1
0 L (Bet against 1)
3
3
0
3
3
3
0 L (Bet against 3)
1
3
3
2
1 W (Bet against 2)
3
1
1
0
1

Hope this helps :)
Also not more than 2 losses in a row!
Title: Re: Two Twins
Post by: tuddilue on Dec 02, 01:56 AM 2016
There is more than I thought in the beginning.
Thanks Willie!
- Tuddilue