OI, maybe one of my best martingale systems ever?...so far, so good! Drawdowns seems to be within a reasonable limit. Lady Luck? This is a tweak of the "Double Dragon" system. It looks like it's a 2/3 bet but in reality it's a 50/50 bet.
Procedure: Pick one side, first hit H/L, (and stay with that side) now, bet the 2 "other" unhit Doublestreets within that same particular H/L hit (each H/L consists of 3 Doublestreets!) Also bet 1u on dozen 1 or 3 (the opposite of what you're betting the DS on!). Spin until hit (until one of the 2 DS hit) no progression when the dozen bet hit! The dozen bet will give money back only! Progression; double bets for each loss. WHEN hit, reset progression to 1u and adjust the DS bet (the 2 "other" unhit Doublestreets within that same particular H/L are bet!) Also bet 1u on dozen 1 or 3 (the opposite of what you're betting the DS on!).
Hope that's clear (sry for my bad english!) :S
an example;
Number 3 hits (DS 1/6) now DS 7/12 and DS 13/18 are bet. 1u is also bet on DOZ 3 (25/36)
Let's say DS 7/12 hits--Reset progression to 1u and now the DS bets are adjusted; DS 1/6 & DS 13/18 are bet! Also the same 1u on DOZ 3
Bankroll; 100u playing with 1u bets, 500u playing with 5u bets.
First tests was played with 5u bets (stoploss -500u, wingoal +500u)
3/3 Games won
4/4 Games won (This chart!!!!) :ooh: :ooh:
5/5 Games won (still looking good!!)
:love:
6/6 Games won (Well, i be damned!!) :ooh: :ooh: Still waiting for my first loss...
i have had a bust but 5 wins out of 6. Live spin wiesbaden.
looks very good not many big DD :thumbsup:
Good job sir
Top notch
Quote from: 777 on Dec 10, 11:56 AM 2016
i have had a bust but 5 wins out of 6. Live spin wiesbaden.
looks very good not many big DD :thumbsup:
Thanks for testing! <3
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 10, 12:01 PM 2016
Good job sir
Top notch
Thanks RG, still we need more tests! It seems to be too good to be true, we'll see how long it will last! ^-^
7/7 Games won O0
8/8 Games won
9/10 Games won :thumbsup: 8)
Had my first loss (phew!) that was a thriller!... Still good so far!... >:D
its still a good looking bet-thanks Ignatus
Quote from: Tomla021 on Dec 10, 08:28 PM 2016
its still a good looking bet-thanks Ignatus
Thanks, i don't think this one will fall into oblivion, atleast not for me! I will keep testing, and i hope you can do the same also to see how far this one can go, im still thinking 9/10 was a very good result, but that may also aswell be luck??... in normal cases a 70-80% winrate is good enough, for me, nice if winrate should be higher than that!... :)
tested two sets and both won the 500 with very little downdraft
Quote from: Tomla021 on Dec 10, 10:28 PM 2016
tested two sets and both won the 500 with very little downdraft
Great! ^-^ Thanks for testing!!
10/11 Games won 8)
11/12 Games won
1 more, it made the 500 ,, Im 3 for 3
Quote from: Tomla021 on Dec 10, 11:29 PM 2016
1 more, it made the 500 ,, Im 3 for 3
You play RNG or Live?
13/15 Games won ~87% winrate
Had my second loss, we'll see now it starts to crystallize...
was playing semi live on the game attached to this forum to get a feel for it
14/20 Games won
5 sessions from hell, well, my luck turned, this wasn't the grail i was hoping for.. :-\ but still a ~70% winrate, i could live with that- if you consider losing ~2-3 times out of 10 sessions, still it's profitable
calculating wins/losses
losses 6*500= -3000u
wins 14*500= +7000u
Total= +4000u
did two more this morning and won both! so 5 out of 5 ----even if it runs bad 6 wins 4 losses its a winner w the ease of play
Quote from: Tomla021 on Dec 11, 01:13 PM 2016
did two more this morning and won both! so 5 out of 5 ----even if it runs bad 6 wins 4 losses its a winner w the ease of play
You're right, i don't think i can beat a 70% winrate, (strange as it seems), but that's enough to make a profit, if you have the right monemanagement! :thumbsup:
Thanks for testing! <3
I have a gut feeling this could stay higher like maybe 75-80% . and I may test it straight with a dalembert or something
Quote from: Tomla021 on Dec 11, 01:52 PM 2016
I have a gut feeling this could stay higher like maybe 75-80% . and I may test it straight with a dalembert or something
Any ideas are welcome, if another progression could change the odds, i don't know(?) (I doubt it) hitrate is still the same, but if you feel like testing it further, go ahead! I will follow, and perhaps i can do more testings also, it all depends on the forum members interest in this one,..you're my inspiration :)
did 2 more with dalembert up 1 on loss down 1 on win , both won 500 units ---lucky so far but its really a fun good little bet I will continue trying some if it continues I might play this one in a casino
Quote from: Tomla021 on Dec 10, 11:51 PM 2016
was playing semi live on the game attached to this forum to get a feel for it
I do not think its live spins from other players, more software, well thats my opinion
very well could be but I can test various ways
15/21 Games won
I tested this +1/-1 progression,(and reset when reach a new high) and it seems to work very good! I imagine drawdowns be less with this kind of progression..(?)
Thanks Tomla! :)
17/26 Games won
No luck with this progression. i can't improve the stats sry :-[
Just something I like about the bet I will take a day off but I still like the bet or variations of it--- if it doesnt work c'est la vie
Quote from: ignatus on Dec 11, 12:14 AM 2016
14/20 Games won
5 sessions from hell, well, my luck turned, this wasn't the grail i was hoping for.. :-\ but still a ~70% winrate, i could live with that- if you consider losing ~2-3 times out of 10 sessions, still it's profitable
calculating wins/losses
losses 6*500= -3000u
wins 14*500= +7000u
Total= +4000u
Actually, given the way martingales tank, the losses are not stopped at exactly 500. Actual tally might be breakeven.
So yah, +1/-1 would be a better way to test.
did 10 more sessions won 8 to 500 lost 2 to -500
OK, let's calculate on this one! 17/26 Games won= That's a ~65% winrate
So! Let's say we play with 1u bets, that would be;
Total investment 26*100= 2600u
Total losses 9*100= -900u
Total winnings 17*100= +1700u
Total= +800u
Total= 800/2600= That's a +31% Return of investment
NOT BAD!! >:D
this is a perfectly legitimate way of playing
played this flat betting and came out well ahead but I didnt track it--I will next time
Quote from: ignatus on Dec 10, 07:12 AM 2016
OI, maybe one of my best martingale systems ever?...
:o
::)
the way its set up its an even money bet---he does the same on his new one---your forcing a situation but doing it slower ---I give ignatus kudos in a big
way--im still studying
I play d'alembert but whatever as a martingale --plus 500 or minus 500---Its valid ! I have no probs losing 500 twice in 10 tries---its 5 marty shots interrupted by the break even bets--which stretch
Quote from: Tomla021 on Dec 10, 10:28 PM 2016
tested two sets and both won the 500 with very little downdraft
roughly how many spins Tomla
about 65 ---and i didnt record it but it helped me understand it ---your pushing into what you want
Just looking this over. My thinking is that I need $5 for an outside bet even
though inside is 50 cents. So I could do this with $500. Not a crazy requirement.
Have done NO testing. But once again, what I see/feel is that some sort of stop loss
is needed. Either a stop "loss" or a stop "play". If you stopped playing during some
of those pronounced drawdowns, then maybe that would help.
Also, not for nothin', I've been looking/playing with EC's but playing the "event" that
just happened. EG for "red-red" on the last 2, there is no change, so you bet red.
If it was red/black, it is a change, so bet red for another change. This catches all
short or long runs of red of black and chops. Doubles is the enemy. Just a thought.
Flat bet so far.