I was sitting here reading some of flatinos methods
I came across a double column method of his
after testing it I realized after columns 2 and 3 followed one another they were likely to hit again within 3 spins...
so i tested against some american zumma
I will post my results
what i did was whenever column 2 and 3 hit after one another, i would bet on both again that they would hit within 3 spins with a 3 step progression.
on a win i would wait for column 1 or a 0/00 to come and wait for 2 and 3 to follow eachother again before continuing as i only aimed for 1 win
ABC represents 123. The losses are red, the greens are a win...all wins within 3 attempts
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C trigger
B +1
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B +1
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I get it.
Is that the only combo of columbs that it works on?
My first quick test is OK.
I call it silly because there is absolutely no reason why this would win long long long term
Im a hit and run guy.
This fits that bill
So save the multi thousand spins for another method
I think that's where I've been at. With a toolkit surrounding
NLE and such.
Looking and thinking about it, when I look over results, it
is like seeing a new set of 2 dozen setting up, and playing it
for that one hit. Not endlessly for more and more.
It may work for other combos if you look for them like that.
So it may not be that "silly".
I likdon't this for airball. Trigger s can take a bit
$10 bets
$300 bankroll for the day
3 step prog. Win or lose bring money you don't mind losing just in case
I'm drunk
I love my roulette peeps
Not sure of the order of this thing.
Did you contrive to go, get drunk, and now you're gone?
Drunk to soften the 27 unit loss?
I like the method, but not sure chasing it that way is wise.
I'm liking the +/- 1 thing.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 21, 02:11 PM 2017
I'm drunk
I love my roulette peeps
Im having a dry January :o :o :o
Looks like a wheat beer (the pic)
It's a micro brew
A double IPA with juice
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 21, 12:23 PM 2017
I likdon't this for airball. Trigger s can take a bit
$10 bets
$300 bankroll for the day
3 step prog. Win or lose bring money you don't mind losing just in case
Interesting method based on an interesting observation. The 3 step progression is the only major problem with this -- I am assuming you are using the standard 1 3 9 progression. Right?
I'd be more inclined to play just the 1st spin after the trigger and
if a loss, continue with additional triggers.
And it's funny. As usual, I am drawn to the notion of playing that
single other dozen instead.
How'd you do?
The original method as outlined by Rich is a two column strategy for the American double zero wheel.
I guess you can test the alternate single column strategy of betting on Column 1, but I have to warn you that I have frequently seen Columns 2 and 3 alternate with one another for fairly long stretches.
Oh, I agree. Right now I'm hot on playing the last two columbs.
Haven't played it yet. But test here and there. I went for a LONG time
playing and testing the last two dozen with the labby. Guess that progression
was just too aggressive. I a stack of 20+ play sheets. Then 3 boners in a row.
I would not chase anything. Spot betting for the difference. (My psychological
bent is that if it might be difficult to hit one of two in 3 spins, it must be
easy to hit the 3rd).
RG must be getting over his hangover before giving a trip report. (Unless
he lost and is scared).
Another ridiculous pet peeve I have in my head is that of the difference between the
EC, and the 2-1. It is a difference of 6 numbers. Yet such a great difference in odds,
and possibility of long double dozen streaks compared to the number and length of
EC streaks.
So, thinking about it, if you tend to chance getting 5-6 in a row on an EC, and more often
streaks of 10-20 in a double dozen, who is responsible for it?
Just those 6 numbers?
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jan 21, 07:34 PM 2017
Interesting method based on an interesting observation. The 3 step progression is the only major problem with this -- I am assuming you are using the standard 1 3 9 progression. Right?
yes the standard 1 3 9
$10 chips
$300 bank
So how'd you do yesterday?
(or can't you remember)?
I'll say one thing. I was scanning zumma with this and by about
the 3rd time I hit 3 losses in a row. Doesn't surprise me.
There are some things that you just SHOULDN'T do.
Like last week. I've been itching to play $100. $50 on 2 columbs.
I did it and lost. That ended my play, but I stayed and tracked.
Didn't feel too bad about it. Was trying to make a quick $50 and lost $100.
I deserve to have some fun once in a while, too.
If you really like dozens en columns. ... why not just go with the flow ?
Follow the leader .... put chips on him.
There's always one or two who stay behind.
The same with numbers. .. there's always a few that hit more than others.....
:thumbsup:
Quote from: denzie on Jan 22, 06:16 PM 2017Follow the leader .... put chips on him
Good idea. I think the key is not only following the leader, but getting off the leader when others are catching up. Am I right denzie?
Yes. Make a few units and reset :)
Quote from: denzie on Jan 22, 06:16 PM 2017
If you really like dozens en columns. ... why not just go with the flow ?
Follow the leader .... put chips on him.
There's always one or two who stay behind.
The same with numbers. .. there's always a few that hit more than others.....
:thumbsup:
Denzie,
In order to determine which dozen or column is the leader, how many spins should we look at? Last 10? Or last 15? What is your preference?
Also, just flat bet the dominant dozen or column?
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jan 22, 07:41 PM 2017
Denzie,
In order to determine which dozen or column is the leader, how many spins should we look at? Last 10? Or last 15? What is your preference?
1 spin.... put your chip on that. And follow the leader. After you made a few units reset it all. Flat or mild positive progression.
Quote from: mogul397 on Jan 22, 03:43 PM 2017
So how'd you do yesterday?
(or can't you remember)?
How did I do yesterday? Where'd you get the idea I played??
Silly me but I kinda like the silly column strategy. I have played 4 sessions with this and only went to 4 steps. once. This has a great hit rate so I used 1 3 9 then kept betting 9 (x2) I am also doing first and second column. Will I come a cropper? yes, probably but I am already up about 100 units so have a bit of a buffer.
I like methods where there is no tracking and prog. is pre-determined.
Only playing on `live` wheel.
Brian
Not playing but watching and this streaked on col. 1 when I would have wanted col. 2 or 3 so will have to be careful with this. A warning for me!!
Quote from: bleep24 on Jan 23, 01:03 AM 2017
Silly me but I kinda like the silly column strategy. I have played 4 sessions with this and only went to 4 steps. once. This has a great hit rate so I used 1 3 9 then kept betting 9 (x2) I am also doing first and second column. Will I come a cropper? yes, probably but I am already up about 100 units so have a bit of a buffer.
I like methods where there is no tracking and prog. is pre-determined.
Only playing on `live` wheel.
Brian
So then you lost. When you lost the first 3 and went to the 4th.
And what is "doing the first and second columb"?
I've completely lost track of anything that you embrace.
Quote from: mogul397 on Jan 23, 02:19 PM 2017
So then you lost. When you lost the first 3 and went to the 4th.
And what is "doing the first and second columb"?
I've completely lost track of anything that you embrace.
Seems to me you are looking for an always win bet. You will never find it
Master money management and stoploss and this method may suit you.
You want the silver platter treatment
Show me a method that never loses. Please
Well sure.
But you get me wrong.
If I try it, it will be flat bets with one try after the B/C.
I won't chase it. Perhaps that's a little more the direction that
I'm leaning in betting.
And I think that just betting 2 dozens may have more going for it.
Bleeps comments seemed surprisingly positive given that supposedly he
lost a progression. Didn't seem to matter to him. And no followthrough.
Went this afternoon.
Based on my data, it was not very good.
Do you ever do good at the casino?
Do you ever read my posts?
I generally make $20. Today I broke even. It's another thread,
but I am finding (and could see) that it was an uphill battle.
Can't put it in a box yet, but I could see the columbs chopping.
I was tempted to bet the 3rd dozens for 2-1. I did do one on the
actual dozens and hit it. But the tide was against me somehow and
I could see it. Maybe I was too cautious. I was in that zone where you
could "see" the other side. But I didn't have the confidence to flip it
over and play it.
As I've been saying. Intuition.
I lost my first attempt at the B/C thing. Later a 3 loss. Like I said, tempted
to play the single dozens on those too.
Speaking of "doing good", do you ever go and actually play and test your
ideas? Or are they all hypothetical. I make it there a couple times a week
or more.....
MONEY?
MOUTH?
Today I was having that feeling I was going to get my ass handed to me.
And I escaped.
I make methods
And test them
When I do goto the casino I bring some money to play with recreationally
I expect to lose it due to it being a game
Wow.
Then what's the point?
Money is how you keep score on how you did.
I live about 10 miles from Gillette Stadium in Foxboro. When you see
it snowing during a Patriots game, it's probably snowing here. My joke
is, "yell out the window".
Anyway, we tend to keep track of the score here. And the higher on
wins.........
And we both like to win and tend to win.......