Could ya'll please nominate what you personally think is the best topic posted here of all-time? Is it Priyanka's Random Thoughts? John Legend's Pattern Breaker? TurboGenius' the Basics (that no-one wants to hear)? Something else? :love:
Please share your nominations by giving title or link to topic!! Thanks in advance! :thumbsup:
The millionaires system
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Good call, RG! >:D I had forgotten about that topic... :xd:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16311.0
John Legend's Pattern Breaker :
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.0
Oops...........sorry Falkor...........I know you and John were close. :lol:
I take it that pattern breaker was a rather decent method. Which got corrupted like most threads after so many pages?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 26, 01:52 PM 2017
I take it that pattern breaker was a rather decent method. Which got corrupted like most threads after so many pages?
I just assumed that we were using Falkor's method of judgement.............by how many pages were written without anyone making a penny. :ooh:
Oh. Lmao.
Can you guess what my favourite topic is??? :P Clue: it was from September 2015. :-X
it looks like many people had success with pattern breaker
maybe people lost interest because you need to track a long time before one pattern remains
I tested it and it lost like all other systems lose. So that cannot be the best topic... except that it was no doubt filled with memorable drama, awe and intrigue.
So what is the best topic here?
I would also vote for John Legend's Pattern Breaker.
It got me thinking about "breaking" many other types of patterns that crop up in roulette spins.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jan 26, 08:06 PM 2017
I would also vote for John Legend's Pattern Breaker.
It got me thinking about "breaking" many other types of patterns that crop up in roulette spins.
with you 1000% percent
thats why i was so into grassroots betting against unique dozen patterns
i know you are going to say it
so i will say it for you
double dozen progressions are suicide
I would award honorable mention to grassroots.
Onetaste started it and RG and others developed it , though toward the end the thread did get repetitive and tedious.
betting against a unique dozen sequence LIKE 123 is ALMOST grailish
SOMETHING is missing
a 1 3 9 doesnt scare me
123: 831
132: 854
213: 824
231: 807
312: 771
321: 802
111: 774
222: 790
333: 795
123 123: 31
132 132: 35
213 213: 30
231 231: 30
312 312: 26
321 321: 28
111 111: 23
222 222: 22
333 333: 26
i see 1 2 3 about once every 100 spins
and 123 123 ....31 times in 60,000 spins
ONCE EVERY 1,900 spins you will see 123 123
i am sure SOMETHING can be done with this to make it a winner
sequence 123123 only occured 30 times in 60,000 spins
also looking at the above we know now that a unique dozen pattern immediately repeating will occur roughly 30 times in 60,000 spins
do the math
60,000 divided by 30
once every 2,000 spins a unique dozen appearance will repeat
123 123: once every 2,000 spins
132 132: once every 2,000 spins
213 213: once every 2,000 spins
231 231: once every 2,000 spins
312 312: once every 2,000 spins
321 321: once every 2,000 spins
111 111: once every 2,000 spins
222 222: once every 2,000 spins
333 333: once every 2,000 spins
do the math further. there are 9 unique dozen possibilities
2,000 spins divided by 9
once every 222 spins a unique sequence will repeat
i hold onto this match because each sequence above hovers around 30 times every 60,000 spins
it was not like one sequence was 60 times and one was 10 times, they were all roughly 30
so in 222 spins we will on average have one unique repeat
the math doesnt lie
the fact that each unique combo hovers around that 30 per 60,000 mark means we must be able to create something here
i must admit.
i have only seen a unique combo repeat once in the entire time i have been tracking
airball wheel
i witnessed 123123
I would also give a high vote for Amk's Code 4. I would probably give it a no.2 ranking.
It has similarities to John Legend's Pattern Breaker.
Both of the above methods have given me a lot of food for thought in terms of bet selections of the "breaking patterns" variety.
Amk's Code 4:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=5848.0
i remember this
had amazing win streaks
he actually injected this into the grassroots thread
amk code 4 with EC may be CLOSE to a safe 1 2 4 8 bet
the beauty is you can play at a live wheel, its every spin, if you want it to be
let me simplify amk code 4 for everyone
you are betting against the decision 12 spins back
on the EC it would be :
odd/even, high/low, odd/even, high low
so if 12 spins back we had:
ELOL
we would then bet against that and the next bets would be:
OHEH
stop on a win
prog 1 2 4 8
So bet against 12 spins back. Bet against the odd or even, whatever it was. If win start over. If lose bet again 12 spins back this time against the high/low and so on
-12 spins back was odd
-Now bet even
-win start over
-lose, 12 spins back was high
-now bet low
Etc
Time to revisit?
Mogul please don't
You are the kiss of death
>:D
I know. But it doesn't seem like you did anything with it.
I read some of it. In the beginning it shows how you track all those patterns,
but I don't see how there are claims of GREAT WINNINGS?
If you have to start over and retrack, then how many wins can you have?
I have an intuition that playing amk 4 code and grassroots against unique dozen pattern alternating might be a lucrative effing thing
This system is on VLS but worth a mention.
Gamlet's Fire Method
If you see two numbers (out of three) hit side by side pockets
Example (European Wheel): 0,10,26 (trigger)
Add two wheel neighbors on each side: 35,3,26,0,32,15
Bet that sector for up to six spins.
Stop on a win or after six consecutive misses.
I am not a very old member of this forum, been around for the past 2 years but I have seen almost all previous topics as well.
I can say that grassroots was something close to the best here till now. Not the exact method of betting against 1,2,3 but the basic idea is powerful enough to apply in any type of bets- dozens, columns, DS, streets, quads and not to mention the variations that can spawn out if it. The possibilities are endless!
I don't claim to understand Winkel's methods or even KTF completely, they may get better results but I believe grassroots offer an ease of play that these systems can't provide in a live casino considering the tracking involved in them.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 26, 09:51 PM 2017
I have an intuition that playing amk 4 code and grassroots against unique dozen pattern alternating might be a lucrative effing thing
What is (was) the core of "grassroots" that you say.
The whole matrix thing/
One of the tweaks
See above
Betting against a unique dozen set such as 231. repeating itself will happen on average once every 220 spins
This is a solidified average as you can see above each unique combo repeat occurs about the same rate
Each unique set repeats roughly 30 times in 60000 spins
Break down the math that equates to every 200 spins expect it
This is great stuff
RouletteGhost don't you mean once every 2,000 spins....makes it even better than you thought :thumbsup:
60,000 / 30 = 2,000 / 1 ratio
Each independent unique dozen sequence repeats roughly 30 times per 60,000 spins
Equates to each sequence repeating once every 2000 spins
There's 9 sequences
2000/9
Once every 220 spins a unique repeats
This is an average
And thanks to raymanz
60,000 spins
123 123: 31
132 132: 35
213 213: 30
231 231: 30
312 312: 26
321 321: 28
111 111: 23
222 222: 22
333 333: 26
I stay close to that math because they are so similar. 30 is the mark. So it is not coincidence, this is what we can expect
Average is 28 to be exact
Regarding Grassroots and that sequence that RG mentioned:
123123?
I guarantee that this will have equal chance compared to any other 6 digit sequence. Something similar can be said for combinations: they appear at different frequencies but are equivalent in terms of cost vs. payout.
I think by far the best topic ever posted is this one:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15870.0
It's clear that PA is Priyanka - or at least part of the same team - and that he intended the above topic to be read in combination with Random Thoughts. Likewise, if Christians read only the Gospels then they fail to understand the Roman conspiracy to invent Christianity - but if they read the Gospels alongside the Roman propagandist history of the time (Josephus) then the truth becomes all too soberingly clear.
So there are two stages to beating roulette as covered by the aforementioned above two topics:
1) Find a stable bet selection (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15938.0)
2) Win based on variance (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15870.0)
Both topics were created at the same time in Sep 2015 and both are designed to be read together = Holy Grail.
If I was to extend my topic to the single best ever post then the award would probably go to this:
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PA is not priyanka. Read beat the wheel on bet selection that is PA
Priyanka is great grandpa
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Ok. Now you are getting crazy
Specifically with these stats is there any way to build a winning method around it
60,000 spins
123 123: 31
132 132: 35
213 213: 30
231 231: 30
312 312: 26
321 321: 28
111 111: 23
222 222: 22
333 333: 26
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 26, 09:15 PM 2017
let me simplify amk code 4 for everyone
you are betting against the decision 12 spins back
on the EC it would be :
odd/even, high/low, odd/even, high low
so if 12 spins back we had:
ELOL
we would then bet against that and the next bets would be:
OHEH
stop on a win
prog 1 2 4 8
So bet against 12 spins back. Bet against the odd or even, whatever it was. If win start over. If lose bet again 12 spins back this time against the high/low and so on
-12 spins back was odd
-Now bet even
-win start over
-lose, 12 spins back was high
-now bet low
Etc
I want to ask the question "would you believe it?" But I know you would believe it.
I picked up a random set of results. Counted out 12 on O/E.
1st 4 were OOEO. Starting after the 12th spin I have,
OOEO..................
Literally the first thing I picked up.
You played it wrong.
It's against odd even, high low, odd even, high low
Mogul you are so quick and have such a desire to find the losing zumma page that you don't even fully understand the bet before testing
;D ;D ;D ;D
For your tests to have any credibility with me whatsoever I will need the zumma page number so I can fact check you
Without the zumma page number I can't trust it
Also one loss doesn't make a strategy bad
So for your tests to have any weight I need page numbers.
So my motto with you is : page number or it didn't happen
Happy hunting
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 27, 06:05 PM 2017
Mogul you are so quick and have such a desire to find the losing zumma page that you don't even fully understand the bet before testing
;D ;D ;D ;D
For your tests to have any credibility with me whatsoever I will need the zumma page number so I can fact check you
Without the zumma page number I can't trust it
Also one loss doesn't make a strategy bad
So for your tests to have any weight I need page numbers.
So my motto with you is : page number or it didn't happen
Happy hunting
There is no page number. It was from actual data I got on a page this week.
Good motto though. You should know me well enough that I list page numbers
when applicable.
I have no zumma page numbers for my own real play.
Maybe "mogul numbers".
Nice try.
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16705.0
Quote from: mogul397 on Jan 27, 11:11 PM 2017
There is no page number. It was from actual data I got on a page this week.
Good motto though. You should know me well enough that I list page numbers
when applicable.
I have no zumma page numbers for my own real play.
Maybe "mogul numbers".
Nice try.
BTW, the reason this happens is that I ACTUALLY GO and ACTUALLY PLAY.
So I have those results. Not sure what (other than zumma) that you use for
all your systems and theories. But you don't seem to actually go, and if
all else that you have to use is zumma then you ate looking in the mirror.
Any test you do for any of us to take it serious we need page numbers from zumma or photos of the live wheel history board
Need to fact check
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 27, 11:07 AM 2017
Ok. Now you are getting crazy
Specifically with these stats is there any way to build a winning method around it
60,000 spins
123 123: 31
132 132: 35
213 213: 30
231 231: 30
312 312: 26
321 321: 28
111 111: 23
222 222: 22
333 333: 26
When you lose in this manner, it means that you picked 3 2-1 picks in a row.
With regard to your "sleep 4" method, I am noticing that you get hit (betting
against the one sleeper). So the sleeper tends to come in quick. Then, of course,
you get the expected long sleeper here and there.
So
1) You need to tough it out til you get the long run of sleeper
2) You could bet FOR the sleeper after 4-5 (but only 1-2 spins. Now you
are in "2-1" land, so you have some mojo).
3) But looking at this from two extremes. The truth is that sleepers don't usually
sleep for long. But the mentality is always to chase everything. If it wants to
sleep, let it. But most times it chops around enough for you to grab those 2-1's
If it's so hard to avoid a big loss by hitting 123123, say, then what about all the
2-1's that are making it happen/ It's easier to chase that with a bankroll.
Not surprisingly, a few months ago, it only too me about 10-20 spins to get clobbered
by the 1,3,9.
those stats arent sleeper based
its showing that a unique dozen sequence repeating happens about 30 times in 60,000 spins
I get it. I was just making reference to it off topic.
But I guess that I am lucky enough to have found the elusive
"repeater" within, like 10 spins when I threw money at it.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 26, 11:31 AM 2017
The millionaires system
:wink: :wink: :embarrassed: :wink: :smile: :twisted:
What is it? That whole thread is just bullshit.
I guess technically I am a millionaire, so I should have this.
Quote from: mogul397 on Jan 30, 01:10 PM 2017
What is it? That whole thread is just bullshit.
I guess technically I am a millionaire, so I should have this.
Nope - it's just that you are depressed without any sense of humour. Go look at your mobile phone.