A silly idea
no rhyme or reason
but the hit rate was fine enough for me to post it
its a double column bet
look at past 3 dozen decisions
say the dozens that showed were:
2
3
2
now we bet the opposite columns
so last 3 dozens were
2
3
2
now bet this sequence does not happen on the columns
bet 1: bet columns 1 and 3
bet 2: bet columns 1 and 2
bet 3: bet columns 1 and 3
stop on any win
an easy test
on the left are the dozens, on the right are the columns
betting on the columns against the dozen line above it
only thing that would have lost this is 0, so my #1 rule with double dozen/column strategies is a chip on 0/00
all wins within the first 3 bets
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Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 02, 07:32 PM 2017
A silly idea
Yep silly idea.
Keep working at it, rookie!.. lol (only joking)
I have made a lot of systems over the last 20 years. Some bloody good ones too. Some are still here on this forum. The only one I ever removed was "The Chompskyhonk". That was a beauty, like a high renaissance masterpiece. There are many still up on other forums too. One of them is B.O.M.B.U.S. hahaha!..that was actually a very good system, no one ever really got it though.
My best ever system, the only one I still use today started with a silly idea. Actually it was a stream of silly ideas the first of which was, what if I bet on the zero every spin. So like I said, keep working at it.
:thumbsup:
I'm finding it a good way to pick a single dozen.
Quote from: Taotie on Feb 03, 02:23 AM 2017
Yep silly idea.
Keep working at it, rookie!.. lol (only joking)
I have made a lot of systems over the last 20 years. Some bloody good ones too. Some are still here on this forum. The only one I ever removed was "The Chompskyhonk". That was a beauty, like a high renaissance masterpiece. There are many still up on other forums too. One of them is B.O.M.B.U.S. hahaha!..that was actually a very good system, no one ever really got it though.
My best ever system, the only one I still use today started with a silly idea. Actually it was a stream of silly ideas the first of which was, what if I bet on the zero every spin. So like I said, keep working at it.
:thumbsup:
Thanks haha
Any direction or pointers?
Pretty much the same conclusion was drawn in the grassroots thread .. aka you win most of your bets on the first and second bet in a set of 3. They also did some variations in dozen, column & mixing them, but again .. it really didnt matter much you usually win your first or second bet.
Do be carefull with the betting though. Using the usual 1,3,9 becomes extremely dangerous on the third bet. Just take your session as an example .. what if you had lost just 1 of the third stage bet at 9 ( 2x 9 = 18) units would have completely reset your backroll back to the beginning making the whole session pointless. Had you lost BOTH the third stage bets you would be deep into a gaping hole. So skipping that third bet entirely is strongly suggested.
Instead sticking to just the first two bets going 1,3 and when you do loose 2 bets in a row either simply accept the loss or step up temporary to 2,6 untill recovered then quickly step back down to 1,3 again. Do keep in mind that loosing the 2 steps twice, one just after the other .. quite uncommon to rare .. hurts, but still not as bad as the 1,3,9 abyss. Much better long term to just do the 1,3 even though its gonna be a grind & very "three steps forward, then 2 steps back" the whole way.
Away for the weekend, but what about tracking which set of Dr the results are coming from? Obviously if you lose 3 in a row playing last two, the third back was coming in
The two clowns won't understand this :lol:, but a question for you RG.
Would you expect to see in 10 spins, column 2&3 hit 6 times, column 1,hit 3 times and see 1 of the zeros.
Absolutely
So we'll use that as a bench mark ( i don't know why i'm spending time on the 00 wheel).
Over 60 spins we could see a score of 40/20, zero can sleep, but with 2 against you, i dont suppose they sleep long.
using 1&2 euro wheel just now on MPR, 37 col 3 in 100 spins plus 4 zero, made a 1000 units, just watched the count. This is black belt syllabus, not for clowns :smile:
Columns are funny
Look at how they are layer out on American wherl
i have on normy's pic.
against 00,1,13, biggest block the others are in 2's with single 7.
Look at 1&2 on euro nice placement
Have a look in thread Human behavior reply 10 which do you think is best
Euro isn't available to me
Well one airball wheel is. $20 minimum bet
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 03, 03:31 PM 2017
Thanks haha
Any direction or pointers?
My advice would be not to try and win outright with whatever dozens/columns method you finally come up with, but use it as a contributor to hedge bets against your inside play, where the real action is.
6th dan red belt syllabus here.
the great sage has spoken, when's the other monkey going to pipe in :twisted:
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 07, 05:05 PM 2017
the great sage has spoken, when's the other monkey going to pipe in :twisted:
what's your problem notto?
I was the great sage as Skakus. Now I'm just a greedy Toatie helping out a bit.
Not you or your side kick mr Rose
so because mr rose pops in and posts a reply on my thread, he's now my side kick?
sheesh..
here Taotie
just been on MPR with maestro said to him col 3 been busy all day, will see he said. well col1&2 made me 1200 units and col 3 had 44 hits in 200 spins
would you like to see the workings, know mr rose wouldn't
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 07, 05:17 PM 2017
would you like to see the workings, know mr rose wouldn't
Before I answer could you tell me if your results would be as favourable if all 3 columns hit 65 times each in 200 spins?
I ask because many, many systems that capitalise on a broad positive or negative variance will struggle when things are unfolding closer to expectation.
even the 5 zero would not worry me.
Its just watch the game unfold the bet will reveal it's self, you just need the balls to play the double doz, so dont knock it till you try it, did you get that part
You are right Notto,
In all my 30 years of roulette play and study I never though to try betting double dozens.
Sorry, my bad..
I tested just about every 2 dozen system I could
On paper
With 1 3 9 27
Just for testing purposes
I could go 15 zumma pages before a loss
But 1 3 9 27 is ballsy
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 07, 05:40 PM 2017
I tested just about every 2 dozen system I could
On paper
With 1 3 9 27
Just for testing purposes
I could go 15 zumma pages before a loss
But 1 3 9 27 is ballsy
Yes ballsy, so i tried the col 1&2 like in, don't knock it till you try it, just been watching the trot on Steves micky mouse roulette game today and the parley part won the day.
Even got me past Taotie on the leaderboard today. :thumbsup:
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 07, 05:17 PM 2017
would you like to see the workings, know mr rose wouldn't
I'll pass, thanks.
Good luck with it.
let me know when you pass me on the leader board ;D
as those white chicks said Tripple, TTTKA :thumbsup:
going through 500 american zumma spins
betting columns
1 and 2
if lose
2 and 3
if lose
1 and 2
if lose
2 and 3
with 1 3 9 27 progression, only lost due to zeros...
always going and staying at 1 and 2 on a win until a loss
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 07, 02:45 PM 2017
The two clowns won't understand this :lol:, but a question for you RG.
Would you expect to see in 10 spins, column 2&3 hit 6 times, column 1,hit 3 times and see 1 of the zeros.
Am I one of the clowns?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 07, 07:18 PM 2017
always going and staying at 1 and 2 on a win until a loss
This was the direction/presumption that I went crazy on last year. For a month or two.
I was using a labby for betting though.
First I said "play last two".
Then I had a variation where after one or two losses I switched to last and
next to last. And back after another loss.
Like that.
It is the money management that is the thing. And I still wonder why, in that
other thread, that matrix idea didn't work?
It seems like there is a middle ground from this 1,3,9,27 progression.
Like +1 -1. Something like that.
OR even the GR8 with 11111,22222,33333,
That sounds more of a gradual increase to ride out some losing streaks,
with a 66% chance of winning. And perhaps waiting or a virtual win after
a loss...
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 07, 06:34 PM 2017
Even got me past Taotie on the leaderboard today. :thumbsup:
The online game is stupid. It's all messed up and doesn't work properly.
I just went on there and hit 4 numbers in about 10 spins and my bankroll just keeps resetting to it's current level. It should have gone up a few hundred units.
Don't waste your time with it. There are far superior ways than a glitchy online game to test or practice your stuff.
im at the top using a double dozen strategy
heh
..happy days ^-^
Quote from: Taotie on Feb 07, 08:56 PM 2017The online game is stupid. It's all messed up and doesn't work properly.
Nobody else has reported glitches like that. It is probably because you bet too late and bets were closed, and rejected. Or it could be the server doesn't like you because you're naughty.
You know it's a community game that we developed for everyone. It's free. I'm the one who's paying for it. If there are any problems, they can be fixed, instead of criticizing it. When is the last time you knew of software that stayed v1.0 forever?
I may not be on the same level as Steve or agree with Steve on certain aspects of the game but I am grateful that he took the time to do the game
Sorry Steve,
Calling it "stupid" was a bit harsh.
It's a nice bit of kit you've developed for free use.
I didn't bet late. I bet with plenty of time then clicked 'ready'. Why would bets be rejected?
I'm no techy but I know enough too spot a glitch when I see it.
Don't worry about it, I'll not be playing again.. it's just not for me.
Cheers.
Thanks RG and I'm glad it continues to be used.
Ok Taotie, but if anyone else notices any glitches, let me know. Toatie what you described happens even in online casinos. Usually if something interrupts the connection and sync to your pc. Avoid porn while playing unless you're on NBN. If it cant validate the bets in time, the server rejects them.
I think the problem is that you can only bet either inside or outside. When you try to bet a combination of both the bets are rejected.
Seeing as my game plays a combination of both, then it really is not for me.
Many people like to mix it up with inside/outside bets. So I would call that a glitch in the game.
Quote from: Taotie on Feb 07, 11:05 PM 2017I think the problem is that you can only bet either inside or outside. When you try to bet a combination of both the bets are rejected.
Thats not what I found in test I just did. Exactly what bets? pls give a precise example
It was probs me.
Need to get my touch screen back of the kid.
Sorry for messing up your thread, RG. My advice still stands though.
Hi Mogul,
Last sentence in your reply no. 34 is something that people should take note of: Stop betting after a loss (or 2 losses) and only start again after a VW.
I use this (mainly when betting DD`s) and it helps a lot. Do not use 1 3 9 27 on DD`s. you will come a cropper. Research deeply in MM. There are some good progs. in there.
Long term flat betting is probably just as good (not DD`s) eventually because it may be slower but less ballsy and you will arrive at the same destination as prog. players.
Brian
Quote from: mogul397 on Feb 07, 07:37 PM 2017Am I one of the clowns?
Nope.
Not you,not mr taotie, its just banter, i'm not going to worry about Mr Rose, giving a rate, i quite enjoy it, it was like that with Mr J, to me it was just fun, see ya rate gone up and there's the jizz or finger, you just give it back.
I remember when the General posted the pic of the idot trying to get through the door, brilliant, that kid must have been Mr Goldrosen :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 07, 06:45 PM 2017
let me know when you pass me on the leader board ;D
Just gone onto the bronze medal step ;D
Totally Time To Kick Arse, TTTKA2
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 07, 07:39 PM 2017
Exactly my question/point.
Is it ass kicking time? Or do I make you laugh (not like that clown)?
Rememeber what I said before. EVERYBODY wants my ass.
Some to kick the shit out of it. Some to hug it, hold it, and love it.
But EVERYBODY wants it.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 07, 07:39 PM 2017
No matter what you say/think, my pedegee goes back....
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWCxIV6-GQ
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 08, 03:29 AM 2017
Nope.
Not you,not mr taotie, its just banter, i'm not going to worry about Mr Rose, giving a rate, i quite enjoy it, it was like that with Mr J, to me it was just fun, see ya rate gone up and there's the jizz or finger, you just give it back.
I remember when the General posted the pic of the idot trying to get through the door, brilliant, that kid must have been Mr Goldrosen :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Not sure what purpose it serves when various people come on here just
to bust everyones balls.
Quote from: mogul397 on Feb 09, 09:04 AM 2017
Not sure what purpose it serves when various people come on here just
to bust everyones balls.
dont have a clue to what your on about, if its TTTKA its a saying from a film.
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 09, 10:32 AM 2017
dont have a clue to what your on about, if its TTTKA its a saying from a film.
Well I was making loose reference to the clown thing and the dotted line references
to some people considered trouble makers.
As for TTTKA I don't have a clue what that means. Didn't care enough to ask.
What I DO care about is, now that my thinking is expanded to different forms of
progressions for DD, which one might be best, and easier on the nerves.
I think that Bleeps recent post was an excellent summary of where we are or where
people should be. HAving a toolkit. Flatbet being the best. Some of my trips to
get my $20 often includes one or two double up bets. But not a marathon chase.
And in the sense of Donald Trump, Bleep got away with using the word
"more likely" about a game of chance. But it's true.
I was working with my friend on the bathroom and totally unattached to gambling
or any kind asked the philosophical question relater to truth and reality. It went
something like, "If something is a random event then why can we say it will
get from "here to here", if it is unknown". A valid question. But it is the
explanation for what we do.
Ghost
if it played like on MPR then the column bet on your 00 wheel should be a piece of piss, 1000 units in 38 spins and next game 26spins.
Quote from: Thunder Pants on Feb 04, 08:34 AM 2017
Using the usual 1,3,9 becomes extremely dangerous on the third bet. Just take your session as an example .. what if you had lost just 1 of the third stage bet at 9 ( 2x 9 = 18) units would have completely reset your backroll back to the beginning making the whole session pointless.
Maybe I am nitpicking here somewhat, but losing the third stage bet of a 1 3 9 negative progression on a double dozen or double column system would lose more than 18 units.
You will actually lose (1+3+9) X 2 = 26 units.
RG.
Can you please give me/us and update about where you are with DD
play? What you are playing and what progression? And how it works?
I am still looking/wondering about variations from going "DC to daylight" on
the progression thing.
At this time I don't play mogul
I occasionally test and come up with ideas
DD I cannot tell you
All I can tell you is this: I haven't lost 1 3 9 in my tests
Strategy from post #1 ****
I think that was an interesting way to transfer over to columbs. For
some reason I am attracted to columbs and generally play them for
the 2-1.
But I also like what you said in the middle, playing dozen 1 and 2. For some
reason it seems more secure than jumping all over the place.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 07, 06:45 PM 2017
let me know when you pass me on the leader board ;D
TTTKA Totally Time To Kick Arse, RG passed you and now sitting top of the pile :thumbsup:
Thanks to you i looked at the columns, been a piece of piss to climb to the top using columns with 100 units on the 2 columns.
Definetly Black belt syllabus, even a 3rd dan red belt could do it :lol:
On DD`s and columns regularly goes 4 misses. (Like twice in 50 spins each one) so 1 3 9 27 (x2)
so 80 units down. Next bet 81 (x2) 242 units at risk (who`s betting here for a zero to come?) to win 1 unit (TFM)
All I have to say is TTTKO some abusive/pitiful/juvenile/WOS/ `members posting on here`
Brian
BTW Mogul,
I am NOT referring to you.
Brian
Damn bleep
I'm not pushing a 1 3 9 progressions
That's just how I test it on paper
How anyone decides to play is on them
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 10, 06:38 AM 2017
Thanks to you i looked at the columns, been a piece of piss to climb to the top using columns with 100 units on the 2 columns.
Definetly Black belt syllabus, even a 3rd dan red belt could do it :lol:
Nottop,
The behavior of the columns on the American wheel will be different from that of the columns on the European wheel (which you play on). I am assuming you know that, so the bet selection methods that work for one type of wheel may not necessarily work for the other type.
So asking this out of curiosity: what bet selection criterion / criteria are you using for playing the columns on your single zero wheel? Thanks.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 12, 03:26 AM 2017
Nottop,
The behavior of the columns on the American wheel will be different from that of the columns on the European wheel (which you play on). I am assuming you know that, so the bet selection methods that work for one type of wheel may not necessarily work for the other type.
So asking this out of curiosity: what bet selection criterion / criteria are you using for playing the columns on your single zero wheel? Thanks.
What is that difference in behavior, if I might ask?
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 12, 03:26 AM 2017
Nottop,
The behavior of the columns on the American wheel will be different from that of the columns on the European wheel (which you play on). I am assuming you know that, so the bet selection methods that work for one type of wheel may not necessarily work for the other type.
So asking this out of curiosity: what bet selection criterion / criteria are you using for playing the columns on your single zero wheel? Thanks.
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Doc out of the 3 strings which would you play, if red will be a loss, top, middle or bottom. Obviously one of the reds is zero.
I remember an old Mr J saying as the ball passes one of ours, theres another coming.
Quote from: mogul397 on Feb 12, 08:27 AM 2017
What is that difference in behavior, if I might ask?
Look at how columns are clustered
On American wheel A has less streaks
Col A that is
So that's why Nathan harps on the European wheel in whashoo2?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 12, 04:36 PM 2017
Col A that is
Rich,
I had noticed the same thing before and I had tried to exploit it by betting on columns 2 and 3, but I repeatedly ended up with two situations:
1. If I didn't hedge against the zeros, I ended up with a loss (usually a small one).
2. If I placed a hedge on the zeros, I either broke even or made a minuscule profit.
I highly doubt that the old timer who cracked the double zero wheel in 1993 used the above column 1 fact in fashioning his winning strategy.
Quote from: mogul397 on Feb 12, 05:08 PM 2017
So that's why Nathan harps on the European wheel in whashoo2?
Mogul,
Possibly -- but his is a dozen-based method, not a column-based one and it is for the double zero wheel.
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4622.0
the washoo 2 has a surprising hit rate on 00 wheels
not sure why i stopped
ive done well with it on airball
the double dozen bet is unattractive because it gets tough to recoup...
i like the 5 DS tweak, where on a loss you double up for 3 spins
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 12, 06:30 PM 2017
Rich,
I had noticed the same thing before and I had tried to exploit it by betting on columns 2 and 3, but I repeatedly ended up with two situations:
1. If I didn't hedge against the zeros, I ended up with a loss (usually a small one).
2. If I placed a hedge on the zeros, I either broke even or made a minuscule profit.
I highly doubt that the old timer who cracked the double zero wheel in 1993 used the above column 1 fact in fashioning his winning strategy.
Cracked the double zero wheel???
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 13, 09:07 PM 2017
the washoo 2 has a surprising hit rate on 00 wheels
not sure why i stopped
ive done well with it on airball
the double dozen bet is unattractive because it gets tough to recoup...
i like the 5 DS tweak, where on a loss you double up for 3 spins
Practised/tested it. Did not hold up and I'm at a loss to know what the
edge might be. NAthan certainly doesn't know or won't tell.
So
DO TELL.
I just tracked some numbers using WASHOO again. Same result.
Instant triple losses, and from what I vaguely remember, there was a certain
selection group that seemed worse than the rest.
Seemed like a mental exercise for the same result.
Why don't you test a zumma oage and post it
W L ratio
Let's see if we can tweak it
If you need something to do
Just got back. Fresh airball data.
11
13 W
23 L
27 L
0 L
14 W
34 L
32 W
18 W
00 L
00 L
24 W
13 W
16 W
21 W
21 W
34 W
11 L
35 W
35 L
12 W
15 L
19 W
9 L
27 W
17 L
15 W
23 W
34 L
19 W
00 L
16 W 13 L including zeros. Good ratio. Doesn't change my mind.
Just being factual.
1 3 9 27
:xd:
I want to know the max losses in a row it has
Maybe wait for some virtual losses
Pardon me. I was in a hurry to leave. "EC" part of my brain took over.
No, it's not so good. In fact, as often usual, betting the dozens is almost better.
Nathan didn't suggest or advocate using ANY progression. So if you
are toying with that, then it's out of character for how it was advertised.
My feeling about what he thinks goes back to that guy I talked about who
played columbs. Waited for 5 first columbs in a row and played the other
two. From there it was "feel". He bought in for $10-$15K and saw where
it went. If it was fighting to take his bank, he quit. Or played till he felt he won.
$500 per columb. Claimed to have a "war chest" of $200K.
I think that's how Nathan rolls.
That's not to say that I'm not open to ideas. I just don't see how it creates any
advantage.
I don't know if it's my imagination, but when I look over dozens vs columbs,
I seem to notice a lot more ability for DD to occur than double columbs. More
choppy.
Could just be dreaming.
In my opinion washoo 2 is "one money management tweak" away from being a solid money making strategy
Longest L I've seen is 4
Like I said, that's now how it was sold. Ever.
That is "progression mentality". Nothing wrong with it, I'm just saying.
And the vast majority of test I've made (from memory) weren't
very good. In terms of flat betting. Of course, now I'm going to grab
some more numbers and check.
But here's the question. What is the angle or the gimmick? What is it about
any of those sets of numbers that make the next bet selection better?
Did he just pull them out of his ass?
There had to be SOME basis.
How about a single increment on losses? +/- 1 or something.
+ 1 on a loss till recoup?
Or even better, the obvious problem or disadvantage is the fact of
when losses come in a bunch. Happens all the time or sooner or later.
How about not trying to recoup losses instantly, but get them back off
of wins.
Isn't it kind of stupid to get a loss and expect a win? When losses are happening?
More likely (if I can use that word) that wins will follow each other.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 14, 03:26 PM 2017
In my opinion washoo 2 is "one money management tweak" away from being a solid money making strategy
Longest L I've seen is 4
Just grabbed a paper with data and got 5 losses.
Pretty quick
Which zumma page
Again. Real data. This is the 2nd time you have asked this.
I ALWAYS begin with the zumma page when I use it. ALWAYS But
I also have sheets here from other trips. So when I make that reference, it
is from one of my sheets.
I know you think I'm in love with zumma. But it's just another page of data.
Oftentimes it's just a convenient thing to glance through, because it's formatted
well. Seems to stand out, when you see me type the word often (and you would
see that exactly because of my claim above. That I ALWAYS indicate my source.
So over time you might have seen it and think that I call it "Saint Zumma",
but, unlike you, I also actually go.
As it happens my wife is going away this week for a couple nights, so that will leave
some free time, and I probably will go. But I am getting more and more confused
about which method and what I should do.
Need to spend more time thinking about the +1 unit on the DD as a progression.
Haven't quite seen the horizon on that one. Need to do some thinking or some work.
You pick up a sheet and immediately have a loss on almost everything
So was just curious if maybe you can upload a photo of that data
Ya know, so we can see
Here it is. I would scan or copy it, but I hate it when people think
I can read their chicken scratch.
There is a part of me that notices that win and loss runs tend to
run. And neither one is infrequent. So maybe watching for the losses and
capitalizing on the win streaks have some merit.
10
19 L
17 W
33 W
13 W
36 L 5 losses, and yes it was right out of the box.
29 L
22 L
8 L
23 L
8 W
18 L
27 W
25 W
6 W
35 W
23 W
32 L
34 W
7 L
8 W
31 W
31 W
33 W
21 W
2 L
10 W
19 L
30 W
15 L
22 W
27 W
19 L
33 W
21 W
21 W
31 W
17 W
29 W
Why is no one saying stop after a loss. That will stop 2 3 4 5 etc. losses in a row. Wait a VW. Looking at those numbers there was a string of wins both before and after that 5.
Good idea not to try and win back losses in one go.
BLeep
Bingo
Quote from: mogul397 on Feb 14, 08:23 PM 2017
....
Isn't it kind of stupid to get a loss and expect a win? When losses are happening?
More likely (if I can use that word) that wins will follow each other.
Yes & no. We do expect a more than 50% winrate from double dozen/columns so wins should happen more often than losses .. in theory. Most progression/betting patterns takes origin in lengthy experiences at the wheel soaken by sweat, blood & tears. Thus the ususally 1, 3, 9 progression is safely mentioned as betting the
least at any time makes sense. And just to be extra safe lets chop it down to just 1,3 so we really cant go wrong.
However if we dare to think "out of the box" for a second and try to look at the data anew with the twist that we assume losses come in a row. According to data (mainly page 1 & 6) most wins are on the first bet & a fair bit on the second bet & the rest few on 3rd bet. If asking someone who have never played roulette he/she would tell you to bet the highest on the first bet, right?. So perhaps the progression should be reversed. Just for kicks i did 3, 1 progression instead of the usual 1, 3 & was surprised that the winning units was pretty much the same. Then again afterwards remembering we are betting 2:1 and it roughly (and should naturally) correspond to the 2:1 winrate between 1st & 2nd bet it maked sense.
Crazy as it sounds doing a reverse progression like 9, 3, 1 or more streached out 9, 7, 5, 3, 1 or similar makes the highest overall return .. that is with a extreme warning of only being tested on paper & remember the wheel might produce something different as usual.
/Crazy rant over.
Thunder, what you say is true. Since there is that sneeky method
that would have you bet $5 then 4,3,2,1 after wins. It is the same as
what the D'alenbert does. but starting in the middle.
The point of looking at what I said is only to potentially get you on
wins and stay off losses. The idea of 66% win chance helps that.
And no, I mis spoke about the other side. The losses. But I still keep looking
to that side for 2-1 ops.
Quote from: bleep24 on Feb 15, 04:07 PM 2017
Why is no one saying stop after a loss. That will stop 2 3 4 5 etc. losses in a row. Wait a VW. Looking at those numbers there was a string of wins both before and after that 5.
Good idea not to try and win back losses in one go.
BLeep
I thought I kind of said it recently.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 14, 01:26 PM 2017
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Let me and everyone know when you go and test it.
Of course on a $5 table. Not 50 cents.
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my casino minimums on airball are $10....so when i play, its a lot
Ouch. (But not ouch).
Though for months through stupidity that mine was $5, and saw a woman next
to me play $2. The thing SAYS "50 cent min"........ on the inside. So I ASSUMED
2 years ago, that it was $5. It is $2. And if I try that, like any creature of habit,
my inclination is "let's not waste time" and do $
On the other end, twin rivers has real tables, and their roulette is often $25.
Tom goes there, and plays that. I just have to repeat. I haven't gone there in a
while since plainridge is 15 min a way. But when I did I walked up to the RNG
after the real table. 15 min later only 4 numbers came in. What a killer. One
dealer did everything, so it took forever.
But $10 min get you thinking about if/when you're going to jump in a little more.