thats how random funny rng is... :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
Hi meastro were you get rng numbers from
Which site
Thanks
this one is from Steves game
This is the 902 spins broke to 110 spin games
Played ok to non-hits, if played to 110 spins each game be a good win.
One game all non-hit came in 70 spins
hi JUST info for you
using maestros Mpr text
901 numbers in the list
if you was to bet last 5 outcomes only each spin
total times this happened 116 in 901 spins.
if you was to bet last outcome and 4 neighbours each side (total 9 numbers) you would have had 217 wins
bear in mind 9 numbers bets would have to be placed
icashbot ::)
so i was right when i said is shitty software...any way
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 04, 05:12 AM 2017
This is the 902 spins broke to 110 spin games
Played ok to non-hits, if played to 110 spins each game be a good win.
I forget, why 110 spins?
Got your complaint now keeps crashing Maestro, just got back 1 unit bet and just down on previous high and crash
Maestro time was 11.43 and your mate ozzy on there
Yes when 8 went hit 3 made the dollar, like you said 8 is burning
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Spin 33, 14-14, goes 13-14 what about spin 38 12-12 for 39th
GUT or luck
Maestro heres the 60 spins old ozzzy getting to you LOL
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RG game just finished playing the sane just lots of repeats
Maestro and Clarence DeVine here are those 110 spins at 21:58 last night
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Long runs of black someone must of been bettin red
it is sooo random...lol
The spins are just whatever they are. The next file I upload will be made available to everyone in an encrypted file, to put aside this bullshit that the spins are rigged. Password will be provided later. Its a game. What am i rigging for?
If anyone thinks they can predict the spins and strange looking sequences, then do it. Shoot to the top of the leaderboard.
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maestro, why do you not have any edge on Steve's leaderboard? It looks like you've lost to the house edge, precisely.
because i am very shitttttttt**y player...it is so simple :'(
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jun 21, 09:52 AM 2017maestro, why do you not have any edge on Steve's leaderboard? It looks like you've lost to the house edge, precisely.
Why anyone with edge whould play with virtual money, on roulette forum, with admin that is tracking all bets?!
and more random
love it Maestro, suppose the experts would say nothing strange in that
Maestro,
I have seen that a lot. Even on an air-ball machine.
RNG does it a lot.
and so what...did you bet on it...i guess you did not...but i did :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
any way is full of shitt but i like it as i cannot sleep sometimes and i kill a lot of time with it...
Maestro, it happens, i bet the 1st 10 uniques from spin 16, yeah when 36,21 repeat like in spins 11-20 thought oh yeah here we go, but they paid, +100 units
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Falkor :smile:
Quote from: praline on Jun 21, 01:05 PM 2017
Why anyone with edge whould play with virtual money, on roulette forum, with admin that is tracking all bets?!
It's to get around the baiting rule by logging some credentials to back up claims that would otherwise be baseless.
Tracking bets?
That's a rumor, not a known factor.
Even if it were true, THEN Steve would have to decipher bets. Good luck!
Even if deciphered, why would he share someone else's work, and compromise ethics publically?
So, I have not yet heard a good excuse why anyone with an edge would NOT log a few hours prior to saying ANYTHING in this forum.
Quote from: Still on Jun 25, 05:10 PM 2017Even if deciphered, why would he share someone else's work, and compromise ethics publically?
Lol. Now THAT is funny.
Quote from: 3Nine on Jun 25, 09:03 PM 2017
Lol. Now THAT is funny.
Even funnier, Trump colluded with Russia and stole our election.
Quote from: Still on Jun 25, 11:14 PM 2017Even funnier, Trump colluded with Russia and stole our election.
It's the same voting system that has been used for ages. The system isn't fair to begin with, because the people controlling the mainstream media support the people that support them.
Trump is not the right person for the job, but he's better than other contenders.
In any case, since when does politics change anything? The whole system is backwards. Voting doesn't change anything.
The way it should be is communities taking care of themselves. Not some external government in control.
what is happening here just now on MPR
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23 thats 27 spins,
Exactly what are you pointing out?
Quote from: Steve on Jun 21, 07:49 AM 2017
If anyone thinks they can predict the spins and strange looking sequences, then do it. Shoot to the top of the leaderboard.
I already did that and you stole my bankroll.. haha!
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 11, 08:18 AM 2017
what is happening here just now on MPR
22
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23 thats 27 spins,
20 spins between repeats is very normal, albeit occasional behaviour for roulette results.
Quote from: Taotie on Jul 11, 08:39 AM 2017
I already did that and you stole my bankroll.. haha!
Quote from: Taotie on Jul 11, 08:46 AM 2017
20 spins between repeats is very normal, albeit occasional behaviour for roulette results.
Yeah normal, extra normal on MPR, 23 consecutive non-hit, see it to often on there, even the FOBT's, But if you can get the units on at 30 second spins then the larger group is always a winner.
why shitty software crashes so much...seems cannot handle wining bets
Maestro if you are referring to rouletteplayers.org, a good connection between you and the server is required to verify bets, to prevent cheating. If your connection is bad during a particular spin, bet validation might not complete so your bets get rejected. This happens from time to time with every online casino.
You are more likely to have issues if you place bets very late.
And please try and have more manners about issues you encounter. If you dont like the game, dont use it.
your software crashes and logs me out...can you please look at it..thanks
If the server crashes, it needs manual restarting. i haven't had to do that for around a year, and that was because of a bug that was fixed. It has not crashed since, so your problem is not server related.
Chances are you have multiple windows open. Multiple logins are rejected to prevent cheating.
If you are only using 1 window, then clear browser cookies and all data for rouletteplayers.org then login again.
Quote from: maestro on Jul 22, 03:11 AM 2017
your software crashes and logs me out...can you please look at it..thanks
M when does the crash happen when you should get a win, all seems a bit, cough, dodgy >:D
Notto, you got me. In built algorithms make sure everyone loses because I'm evil (mwahaha)
i knew it...mwahooooohohohhohihihihhhaaaaa :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
have i hit a nerve steve, seems M thinks so :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 22, 08:34 AM 2017
have i hit a nerve steve, seems M thinks so :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
yes, ouch.
seems like an on-line casino just as the nitty gritty is about to happen CRASH.
So the problem is all our end, yeah Mr Casino, why your covering your arse why not reduce by another 15 seconds, be even more unrealistic, at least Grvovesnor give 45 seconds like you did at the start, but large # bets win to easy and i dont mean outside dozens, large cover of mat different story and you know it :thumbsup:
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Notto do you abuse casino management and accuse them of cheating when your system loses?
Your mpr win rate has nothing to do with me or any software bug.
And no, betting more random numbers doesn't help you win
Should i just shut my mouth whenever an inaccurate statement is made? You know basic testing and logic reveals im actually just telling the truth and being attacked. Like flat earthers burning a round earther at the stake. God forbid anyone disrupt what you think should be reality.
Im not attacking anyone like you and denzie are. Just explaining really, really basic facts the entire gaming industry is built upon
No steve do as you do freedom of speech :-X
Quote from: Steve on Jul 22, 01:40 PM 2017Notto do you abuse casino management and accuse them of cheating when your system loses?
i don't no more,been some time since i thought the FOBT cheated the player, but Winkel showed how and why its fair.
See i listen to those in the know, GUT given its chance will show how non-hit come and how repeats behave and one does not need software to see that. Just look at Doc S, repeaters or non-hit, if clever enough, win with both, that GUT tracker shows exactly how the game is unfolding if you can understand the trot of the non-hit.
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 22, 02:13 PM 2017
No steve do as you do freedom of speech :-X
Rubbish. This forum is barely moderated. The two main circumstances a post would be moderated are personal attacks, and spam. I don't even remove off topic posts, because it would disrupt natural conversation flow. Its as unmoderated as a respectable forum can be.
If you are winning with GUT, keep doing it.
but...for sure mpr is software and spins are rng ..
@steve
Is it not possible to make it faster. Its very slow .
Madi, if I made it faster, people would complain and make comments like this:
Quotewhy your covering your arse why not reduce by another 15 seconds, be even more unrealistic, at least Grvovesnor give 45 seconds like you did at the start, but large # bets win to easy and i dont mean outside dozens, large cover of mat different story and you know it
I can set it to any time, but the majority of people would need to agree.
Quote from: maestro on Jul 23, 03:06 PM 2017but...for sure mpr is software and spins are rng ..
I explained where I get spins from. The only way there would be rng in the mix is if any of my players used rng spins for testing. Its possible but I just publish whatever the spins are without analyzing them
Besides if you think you know the difference, it means you can predict the outcomes. So put yourself on top of the leaderboard.
Ok got it. If something is possible like single player or different wheel with multiplayer as 20, 30, 40 and 60 second something like the casino. Thanks
Madi I made it 15 seconds now. I think most people would prefer it but anyone can let me know how they find it.
Thanks steve
No its still running with 1minute
Definitely running at 15s for me. Please check carefully.
Am i doing any mistake? Is it the one in apples game center if i m not wrong?
QuoteBesides if you think you know the difference, it means you can predict the outcomes
i thought you said you know difference with enough data in some of your earlier posts...and being on the top of your MPR means nothing
is like me telling you...get 10000 bankroll get one of your best computers and go to casino and make your 10000 into say 90000...can you do that ...no
Quoteonly way there would be rng in the mix is if any of my players used rng spins for testing
so having some unknown parts in your experiment does not make it valid...and also you mix spins from different so called players and if they are your players why would they use your computers on RNG testings :question:
Where i can get it. Any link or instruction?
Quote from: maestro on Jul 24, 12:36 AM 2017i thought you said you know difference with enough data in some of your earlier posts
Yes, I can. But can you?
Quote from: maestro on Jul 24, 12:36 AM 2017and being on the top of your MPR means nothing
Short term data is comparatively meaningless. That's why people that reach the top of the leaderboard win rates above 1 eventually slide back down closer to 0.97 when they play more.
Quote from: maestro on Jul 24, 12:36 AM 2017is like me telling you...get 10000 bankroll get one of your best computers and go to casino and make your 10000 into say 90000...can you do that ...no
Well to start, your initial comments were inaccurate.
Sure, you could turn $10,000 into $90,000 even with random bets. But doing it often enough to profit long term is something different. Yes the computers can easily do that in theory. The only obstacle is casino surveillance. You cant just win $80,000 without raising eyebrows. You are forced to keep winnings much more modest. The only limit is what you can win, without being detected.
Quote from: maestro on Jul 24, 12:40 AM 2017so having some unknown parts in your experiment does not make it valid...and also you mix spins from different so called players and if they are your players why would they use your computers on RNG testings
What's your problem with me Maestro? If you are just going to throw mud, it's not going to benefit you. Really I have nothing to hide.
There are unknown parts in almost every experiment. You don't need 100% accuracy with everything. In the case of roulette, you only need enough accuracy to overcome a relatively small house edge.
Players of mine sometimes use RNG spins just to better understand how to use the software. It makes more sense to use real spins from casinos, but players import RNG from curiosity too.
Any other questions?
Quotecomputers can easily do that in theory
theory sometimes does not overlap reality..and you know that..
and as my old friend says...<any way lets enjoy>
thanks for your time explaining :thumbsup:
QuoteIf you are just going to throw mud
nooooo Steve i have no problem with you or want to mud someone..
i do apologize if i left any scent of hurt...all good
No problem, all good
So Steve, you made it an unworldly 15 seconds because Madi (whoever the f*ck he is) said it was too slow, yet he is clearly on some kind of glitch time.
If you want all players to show their wares and feel comfortable doing it, then more time between spins is the way to go.
IMO you should at least put it back on 30 secs, even better 45 secs as many players use legitimate inside spreads that require more 'mouse' dexterity than outside spreads.
If Madi doesn't like it then he can just log back in when no one else is playing and hit the friggin' ready button. And if there are others playing when he logs in then he can ask them politely through chat to hit the friggin' ready button. And if they don't want to, or if they are a bot, then he can just log back in when no one else is playing and hit the friggin' ready button....otherwise please explain exactly for what is the ready button?
Leastways that's what I do, and many others who want a quick game.
IMO you are pushing many players out of the game by shortening the No More Bets timescale. I for one can no longer seriously compete with such a severe countermeasure as 15 seconds between spins.
I was loading up for a position one attempt, but now I'm stuffed, thanks Madi!
Quote from: Taotie on Jul 24, 10:11 AM 2017
I for one can no longer seriously compete with such a severe countermeasure as 15 seconds between spins.
I reckon it would take out all your computer partners too, I don't care how good they are. :thumbsup:
Look, did you give us a game to play here, or is it just a proving ground?
Either way, 15 seconds is unrealistically short.
..and while we're at it, why isn't there a double up button to speed things up for heaps of players who could then at times hit the ready button even sooner?
Taotie,
I agree -- I don't play the mpr game, but 15 seconds is intolerably short, especially if you have to place many bets all over the layout.
I have the exact same problem with the airball machines in various establishments.
Taotie
He cut the time to make betting large spreads of numbers impossible, at 45 seconds piece of cake to lay, then he cut the time to 30 and now an unrealistic 15 seconds, even B+M give 40seconds on live table, but even they are nipping it back.
Look at Aspers, touchscreen but not the live tables there own mickey mouse wheel sitting high up on a podium, and a monitor to see wheel going round, seems bit like smartlive roulette and where are they today.
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 24, 12:18 PM 2017
even B+M give 40seconds on live table, but even they are nipping it back.
At many US casinos, on very busy weekend nights, even with chip-sorting machines, there is an interval of 6-7 minutes between spins.
A few months ago, I was in a casino on a Saturday night, and the dealers were so overwhelmed with handing out the payouts and sorting the chips, that nearly 10 minutes would elapse between spins !
yeah first was real spins then was sometimes spin file finishes and run RNG...now spins could be mixed with real and RNG spins just because Steves players like to test so and so...is getting like kinder garden
and
Quote15 seconds because Madi (whoever the f*ck he is) said it was too slow
exactly who the f*** is..
Quote from: maestro on Jul 24, 03:56 PM 2017now spins could be mixed with real and RNG spins just because Steves players like to test so and so...is getting like kinder garden
I dont know for sure if there is RNG or not, because I didn't collect the data myself. I'm only saying I know players sometimes add RNG numbers for various reasons. I only take spins from profiles that have a specific description attached (description field that isnt empty). Each group of spins has a casino name and description for the player's own records. Anyone using RNG for testing has no need to specify a casino name.
So are there any RNG spins? Maybe, I dont know. There may be some, but the vast majority are from real wheels.
What's getting like kindergarten is the behavior of some members. Again the game is free for members. I've made it however members wanted it. I've done my best, within reason, to ensure only real spins are used.
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 24, 12:18 PM 2017He cut the time to make betting large spreads of numbers impossible, at 45 seconds piece of cake to lay, then he cut the time to 30 and now an unrealistic 15 seconds, even B+M give 40seconds on live table, but even they are nipping it back.
Notto, do you really think I reduced the time because of my conspiracy to make you lose?
Are you aware that making more random bets actually makes you lose more?
Taotie, the game is made however members want. Yes Madi should know some random roulette app from iphone app store has no connection to our game, whatsoever.
I would personally prefer it to be about 15 seconds. I'm impatient and is enough time to bet what I would bet on such a game. But obviously other people are different so I'll start a poll.
For now it is on 25 seconds. Push me and I'll make it 4. :girl_to:
QuoteSo are there any RNG spins? Maybe, I dont know
thanks being honest Steve.. :thumbsup:
Roulettefan
Just come off started at 21:45 on the chat clock, Maestro there and some one who owns an ATM.
RF can you see the countback, spot on, avg for the 60 spins is 30.5, so as the 24 non-hit have come so in spins 41-60,we could see 6 more come, and waiting for avg had 2 bets, 5 of the 6 came, just collect your games build your averages, went from 1284 to 1382, with the spins bak to a reasonable time large bets on the field can be done, so i suppose it'll be back to 15 seconds or even better 5 seconds to mess taotie and me from getting to #1 spot, cough
Notto what is your username on the game?
I need to know so I can apply my conspiracy to make you lose.