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Title: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Feb 17, 10:25 AM 2017
Did you ever toke the time to look in wiesbaden permanenzen ? If not , then you should.  :)

Each and almost every day you see a couple of numbers hitting a lot higher than just above average. We see every time most numbers hit around average. And we see numbers that hit below average.

Now how to attack?  Start from spin 1 ? Here we still can choose the cold or average #.
Start after a # get a few hits?  Here still so many that can go wrong.

Now let's say I put my money on the # that got 8 hits ? It wins most sessions flatbet. If not I would raise 1 unit next session.

Try it  ;)

(I know it's not playable in a B&M )
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: 3Nine on Feb 17, 10:28 AM 2017
I prefer Magic 20, but thanks!
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Feb 17, 10:32 AM 2017
You can always play 1 # while tracking. As the hottest one. Many times your cashing out already b4 the 8 comes.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Feb 18, 12:57 PM 2017
I guess this ain't popular coz it's boring. Although it's highly effective. Mostly done under 200 spins.

Back to dozens and columns I suppose  ::)
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Feb 18, 04:41 PM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Feb 18, 12:57 PM 2017

Back to dozens and columns I suppose  ::)


Denzie,
Not just dozens and columns, but double dozens or double columns with a 1 3 9 27 progression!

That's what tickles the fancy of many members, including some of the most prominent veterans of this forum.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 18, 04:55 PM 2017
I'm sure it's good Denzie

In the US we seriously lack online play

If it's not playable at airball I can't play it
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Feb 18, 04:56 PM 2017
Denzie,
Levity aside, I do have a serious question for you:
in your experience, on average, after how many cycles of 37 (or 38) spins, do you see the first 8-repeater number coming up?
Thanks.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: Turner on Feb 18, 05:29 PM 2017
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 18, 04:56 PM 2017on average, after how many cycles of 37 (or 38) spins, do you see the first 8-repeater number coming up
around 135 spins
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Feb 18, 05:38 PM 2017
Quote from: Turner on Feb 18, 05:29 PM 2017
around 135 spins

That's very accurate Turner  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Feb 18, 05:46 PM 2017
Quote from: Turner on Feb 18, 05:29 PM 2017
around 135 spins

Turner,
Thanks for the response.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Feb 18, 05:47 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 18, 04:55 PM 2017
I'm sure it's good Denzie

In the US we seriously lack online play

If it's not playable at airball I can't play it

It is playable but probably to boring. Bet the # number with the highest appearance. Flatbet that number. It's kinda like the 8 train. So you will see that already wins most sessions before you reach that magic 8.

And if not...start with 2u at the 8th repeater. Let the games begin. It keeps you away from putting money on cold and average #.  You will see in almost each session you win flatbetting. There's just always one or few super hotties that show there faces...but if you start to early ...
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Feb 18, 05:53 PM 2017
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 18, 04:41 PM 2017
Denzie,
Not just dozens and columns, but double dozens or double columns with a 1 3 9 27 progression!

That's what tickles the fancy of many members, including some of the most prominent veterans of this forum.

We all been in that phase. But what I don't understand why some don't see those won't work. I mean...we should be making progress in our strategy. Not just stay where we started....  ::)
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Feb 18, 06:06 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 18, 04:55 PM 2017
I'm sure it's good Denzie

In the US we seriously lack online play

If it's not playable at airball I can't play it

Rich,
If Turner's estimate of 135 spins is applicable to the airball wheels that we find in this country, then this method is worth an attempt.

In terms of cycles, 135 spins is roughly around the middle of cycle no. 4.

The airball wheels that I have had experience with so far produce about 60 numbers per hour.

So that would mean that on average we would start getting our first 8-repeater number a little after 2 hours -- thus, this method might be testable here also.

An alternate possibility is to press the "TREND" button and see the hottest numbers for the last 500 spins and take it from there.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 18, 06:13 PM 2017
Very true doc

I didn't quite understand it but now I do

An 8 repeater is a number that has hit 7 times within this cycle goin for an 8th?
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Feb 18, 06:56 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 18, 06:13 PM 2017
Very true doc

I didn't quite understand it but now I do

An 8 repeater is a number that has hit 7 times within this cycle goin for an 8th?

Rich,
An 8-repeater is one that has shown up 8 times. At least that is my understanding of the term.

I guess you can play it either way:
1. Let a 7-repeater show up and you start betting on it to become an 8-repeater.
or
2. Let an 8-repeater show up and you start betting on it to become a 9-repeater.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Feb 18, 08:08 PM 2017
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 18, 06:56 PM 2017
Rich,
An 8-repeater is one that has shown up 8 times. At least that is my understanding of the term.

I guess you can play it either way:
1. Let a 7-repeater show up and you start betting on it to become an 8-repeater.
or
2. Let an 8-repeater show up and you start betting on it to become a 9-repeater.

Nr 2  :)

Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: 3Nine on Feb 18, 08:39 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 18, 04:55 PM 2017

In the US we seriously lack online play

Come to NJ, Rich.  RNG all day and Golden Nugget just added live wheels at night.


Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 18, 09:35 PM 2017
Sucks that Ny is so strict

I can't move to nj lol

What's the minimums
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: 3Nine on Feb 18, 09:54 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 18, 09:35 PM 2017
What's the minimums

Borgata is $0.02
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: RouletteGhost on Feb 18, 10:02 PM 2017
Jesus. Jealous
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Mar 05, 04:11 PM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Feb 17, 10:25 AM 2017
Did you ever toke the time to look in wiesbaden permanenzen ? If not , then you should. 

Try it 

:smile:
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Jul 15, 08:41 AM 2017
might wanna give it a shot guys ...
you can even use the 1-5-25

O0
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: 3Nine on Jul 15, 09:59 AM 2017
Why?
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Jul 15, 02:48 PM 2017
No reason. I just want attention that's all  ::)
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: 3Nine on Jul 15, 04:33 PM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Jul 15, 02:48 PM 2017
No reason. I just want attention that's all  ::)

Ok, cool.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Feb 08, 01:26 PM 2018
Just bring it up again. Shut up 3nine  :lol:
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 03, 03:01 PM 2018
It's An Old thread, but because it's such An interesting one, and it's a close hg, i thought i would like to bring it to everyone's attentiom again. And it's about repeaters  :love:

Still leaning, but my  guess to start playing a session before our Train arives, is like this i guess.

We only bet on the numbers that are the hottest numbers at that time.
Say om spin 5 we've got our First repeater, we then place 1 unit on that number because at this Point it is the hottest number. From now on we add Evert repeater to our list and equalizer our bets with the amount of numbers in play. So 2# 2*2 units 3# 3*3 units and so on. At some Point we will See that a 2s Will become 3s, at this Point, we drop All 2s from our list and continue with only the 3s that Will pop up with 1 unit again. Everytime a new 3s Comes in we equalizer our betts with the totL numbers like i statet above and continue our session. Then it's the fours, the fives, the sixs, sevens and then only a few numbers Will hit 8 Times. At this Point we will only focus on the 8s, until we either reach a new High or are at 200 spins, we then stop. Or when we will See that some of our 8s remain getting hits, then we will continue to our liking.

Not sure if i'm correct, buty thouts.
And folks if this is winning 8 or 9 Times out of ten sessions, why not play it?
Only because it's boring to play for 200 spins? Sorry but if i had a System that would give me a steady profit every 200 spins, i don't care anymore howamy spins i must play. It is All about making money. Remember that a daytime job takes you 8 hours of work, i'm sure if we play this Right, you Have a steady income for alot less hours per day. And then this Will be your job. Just saying, money is money.
Come on folks, let's bring this awesome System of Denzie to life again. Eddy.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 03, 04:21 PM 2018
Thanks for bringing up an old thread about repeaters jekhb76. I ran a few tests Just betting on the number(s) that hit 8 times. The result was positive. Yes, it's long time waiting, but can be worth it.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 03, 04:49 PM 2018
Quote from: boyd30 on Mar 03, 04:21 PM 2018
Thanks for bringing up an old thread about repeaters jekhb76. I ran a few tests Just betting on the number(s) that hit 8 times. The result was positive. Yes, it's long time waiting, but can be worth it.
Yes, No we only need to learn how to exactly bet from spin 1 to overcome boredome and making some profits before our 8 Train is coming in.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 03, 04:56 PM 2018
Maybe bet All the the numbers that became 2s (1 unit) once. Number hits for the 3rd Time, drop the 2s and continue with this 3s (2 unit) and All the rest that became 3s. Until a 3s become a 4s, then we drop All the 3s and bet this number Who becamse a 4s (3 units) continue.... Etc etc. Just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Mar 03, 06:49 PM 2018
Its a very very very solid method. But it will never be played coz it aint a 50 spin and win type of thing.

What to do in between tracking ? Grassroots, pb, many stuff. Or do like i do...play the 2 hottest #

:thumbsup:

(Btw use a wise mm here. Coz yes we win 9 out of 10 sessions)
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: cht on Mar 03, 08:09 PM 2018
Here's my way for magic 8.

Wait for magic 8 to hit 1st magic 9 then bet the 2nd, 3rd, 4th magic 8s......

The magic 8s must cumulate a few b4 magic 9 hits.

Be prepared to wait/play to 250-300 spins.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: cht on Mar 03, 09:53 PM 2018
Best method.

1. Track between spin 200-250.

2. Wait for magic 9 to hit.

3. Wait for 2 magic 6 to hit.

4. Not more than 1 magic 7 hit.(from pt.2-3)

5. Bet last 4 magic 6 for 1 hit.

6. Rinse and repeat.

Usually hit within 13 spins. So bet 1 unit for 9 spins and 2 units for 4 spins - total risk = (4x9) + (4x2x4) = 68units.

Write autobot, play it online. Be nice give me a copy. Thanks !

Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 04, 12:59 AM 2018
Quote from: denzie on Mar 03, 06:49 PM 2018
Its a very very very solid method. But it will never be played coz it aint a 50 spin and win type of thing.

What to do in between tracking ? Grassroots, pb, many stuff. Or do like i do...play the 2 hottest #

:thumbsup:

(Btw use a wise mm here. Coz yes we win 9 out of 10 sessions)

Hi Denzie, still Will be played by only them Who will work for their money. Because to get An income, you Have to work, in real life and by playing roulette. And when People open their mind and putting their efforts in it, they Will Make roulette playing their work. U All Have to remember, when you are playing online you can Have a steady income every day for a few hours of play.... Why doesn't everyone sees that is beyond me?and you don't Have to play 250 spins All after anoter, you can take a Break whenever you like, as Long as you Keep notes of what you are doin' and Make sure you pick up Right where you left.
The wheel doesn't Have a Memory folks! Like a wiseman once said, as Long as the game is producing ramdom numbers, you can't loose!
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Mar 04, 04:29 AM 2018
Of course many online casino's show the last 100 or more spins....that would just let you start right away  :thumbsup:

Btw i checked if the # they post are actually correct. Yep they are
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 04, 04:48 AM 2018
Test 1 unit on 2 hits, when 3 hit skip the 2's and place 2 unit on 3's and so on.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 04, 04:58 AM 2018
Another test. Was down to 6 units bet but it recovered.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: cht on Mar 04, 05:05 AM 2018
Quote from: cht on Mar 03, 09:53 PM 2018
Best method.

1. Track between spin 200-250.

2. Wait for magic 9 to hit.

3. Wait for 2 magic 6 to hit.

4. Not more than 1 magic 7 hit.(from pt.2-3)

5. Bet last 4 magic 6 for 1 hit.

6. Rinse and repeat.

Usually hit within 13 spins. So bet 1 unit for 9 spins and 2 units for 4 spins - total risk = (4x9) + (4x2x4) = 68units.

Write autobot, play it online. Be nice give me a copy. Thanks !
Won my bet - $560 on spin 10 for today.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Mar 04, 05:12 AM 2018
Quote from: boyd30 on Mar 04, 04:48 AM 2018
Test 1 unit on 2 hits, when 3 hit skip the 2's and place 2 unit on 3's and so on.

Thats the 8 train by mr.j that you play with positive progression. Its been coded with flatbet and of course lost. Never been coded with the progression though. A good mm is required though. Bring 1k to win 1k. Not 1k to win 100bucks.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 04, 05:18 AM 2018
Here are some of the results on test: +35, +102, +26, +17, +58, +34, +70.  Yes, flatbet will not work, but with progression? You need a big bankroll. Another test.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 04, 05:36 AM 2018
Quote from: cht on Mar 04, 05:05 AM 2018
Won my bet - $560 on spin 10 for today.  :thumbsup:

Can you explain little more clear how you play? If you record 200 spins you are often up more than 9 hits.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: cht on Mar 04, 05:53 AM 2018
Quote from: boyd30 on Mar 04, 05:36 AM 2018
Can you explain little more clear how you play? If you record 200 spins you are often up more than 9 hits.
Yes,  possible. I play a slightly different game because I want to avoid losses and don't want to go into large progression.

Keep record for 200 spins. From 200th spin onwards wait for magic 9 to hit. From this point wait for 2magic 6 to appear. During this window(up to 237th spin) , magic 7 cannot hit more than once. Normally, the 2nd magic 6 hit within 17 spins after magic 9 appears.

Bet as I shown in post above. Update for latest 4 magic 6.
Most wins come by the 11th spin.

If don't fulfil(max 250 spins) no bet. Retrack.

Today is my 1st real money bet at my favourite repeaters etg machine. It won on the 10th spin, pretty nervous I must say.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 04, 07:08 AM 2018
Quote from: boyd30 on Mar 04, 04:58 AM 2018
Another test. Was down to 6 units bet but it recovered.
It's not Safe, to play this way. Trust me i've been there Nd burned myself real bad using this method and this progression. Best way to play is to play only a few numbers at a Time, Max. 5 i would say, maybe less and only play the hottest number, this is the safest approach i my mind. But everyone like to play Different and that's Fine ofcourse. But better listen to members Who Have been there and burned their hands rel bad, as Long as everyone is leaning from earlier Made mistakes you makeing progress.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 04, 08:19 AM 2018
Quote from: denzie on Mar 04, 05:12 AM 2018
Thats the 8 train by mr.j that you play with positive progression. Its been coded with flatbet and of course lost. Never been coded with the progression though. A good mm is required though. Bring 1k to win 1k. Not 1k to win 100bucks.

Closest coding for the catch the 8 train by mr j is the excell sheet I posted where you can flat bet or add 1 unit to each new repeater and stop at so many etc ...pretty sure there’s other features like bet after so many hits etc coded by nick a long time ago
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 04, 08:27 AM 2018
Quote from: cht on Mar 04, 05:53 AM 2018
Yes,  possible. I play a slightly different game because I want to avoid losses and don't want to go into large progression.

Keep record for 200 spins. From 200th spin onwards wait for magic 9 to hit. From this point wait for 2magic 6 to appear. During this window(up to 237th spin) , magic 7 cannot hit more than once. Normally, the 2nd magic 6 hit within 17 spins after magic 9 appears.

Bet as I shown in post above. Update for latest 4 magic 6. 
Most wins come by the 11th spin.

If don't fulfil(max 250 spins) no bet. Retrack.

Today is my 1st real money bet at my favourite repeaters etg machine. It won on the 10th spin, pretty nervous I must say.

Thanks cht, but I'm not quite sure yet how you bet? This is 200 spins. So which number(s) do I bet from here? As you can see there are 2 that hit 9 times, many on 8,7 and 6. Do you wait for some of the 8 hitter to became 9? Wait for 5 hitters to become 6?
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 04, 08:30 AM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on Mar 04, 07:08 AM 2018
It's not Safe, to play this way. Trust me i've been there Nd burned myself real bad using this method and this progression. Best way to play is to play only a few numbers at a Time, Max. 5 i would say, maybe less and only play the hottest number, this is the safest approach i my mind. But everyone like to play Different and that's Fine ofcourse. But better listen to members Who Have been there and burned their hands rel bad, as Long as everyone is leaning from earlier Made mistakes you makeing progress.

I fully agree with you. When it hit bad it will really hurts. What about starting the approach later? Start to bet on the 6th hit? Then the numbers to bet are fewer?
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 04, 08:33 AM 2018
Quote from: 6th-sense on Mar 04, 08:19 AM 2018
Closest coding for the catch the 8 train by mr j is the excell sheet I posted where you can flat bet or add 1 unit to each new repeater and stop at so many etc ...pretty sure there’s other features like bet after so many hits etc coded by nick a long time ago

Sorry don't know how or if I can  use the excell sheet. I use the RX. The thing I would like to know is how to code, but I do tests manually.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 05, 07:00 AM 2018
I tested started later when a number hit 4 times. It seem makes no difference.  It recovered but was down almost 300 units.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Mar 05, 09:52 AM 2018
Those systems of Mr J will never work. Better stop wasting your time. He got nothing.

Now please stop posting this rubbish here. Its as good as marginale  ::)
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 06, 01:31 AM 2018
Rubbish or not. Just bringing up ideas.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 21, 02:33 AM 2018
bump :)
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 22, 09:37 AM 2018
bump :)
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: denzie on Mar 24, 06:01 AM 2018
Bump  ;)
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: stulunger on Mar 24, 11:43 PM 2018
Logic beats everything. Why are we trying to beat roulette mathematical You fail! It's like telling cardcounters in blackjack to use betting progressions in order to beat blackjack. It ain't gonna happen. Because people win over 10K hands it does not mean they got something working. How long  roulette exists? And how long people are still addicted enough to stay blind forever because they lack intelligence or emotionally IQ. You can beat the roulette only by physics, the rest is rolling a dice.  :ooh:

Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 12:43 PM 2018
Thought, i would bring this System by Denzie Back top the top of the page, because it deserves it.

Maybe we can implement some improvement while we ad it.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 01:06 PM 2018
Quote from: boyd30 on Mar 04, 08:27 AM 2018
Thanks cht, but I'm not quite sure yet how you bet? This is 200 spins. So which number(s) do I bet from here? As you can see there are 2 that hit 9 times, many on 8,7 and 6. Do you wait for some of the 8 hitter to became 9? Wait for 5 hitters to become 6?
I woud bet just the 2 9s
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 01:46 PM 2018
Best thing to do is only to bet when there are two number 2 hits above the rest.
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 01:51 PM 2018
Otherwise you'll be jumping Jack Flash between to many numbers. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ** Magic 8 **
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on May 28, 11:32 AM 2018
bump :)