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Title: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 06:25 AM 2017
As i have mentioned in KTF, the FOBT knows the bet selection in the end. Why, as the suppliers of the games to the bookies must work on beating it. Now it gets caught all the time. So back to the drawing board.

Using airball is different.
Mortagon gives daily spins, these have changed from time to time. Best spins came from Dragonara Palace for using KTF. Now on ef-bet its up and down, currently in the minus.

So why is KTF, living in paradise. Well the last couple of weeks looking at the wise words of a members post, that said take the first profit. Posted a couple of priyanks tester, so you should know what this is, if not it's going to show KTF take first profit. Will use ef-bet unless Mortagon says no.
So 1st profit +6


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Wont mention flat bet the last remaining 8 non-hit, but if you can manually count, just count the last 8 non-hit, here today Falkor +12
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 06:31 AM 2017
So +6
Now what happens when you collect 10 new spins, so collected spins after the +6


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+8
flat bet remaining 8non-hit, took a little longer +7
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 06:33 AM 2017


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Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 06:35 AM 2017


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Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 06:38 AM 2017
8 remaining non-hit run out of spins


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Take KTF 1st profit  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 06:49 AM 2017
These spins the remaining 8 won before end of spins


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Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 06:51 AM 2017
Remember take 1st profit


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Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 06:53 AM 2017
so start after the +2


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Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 06:55 AM 2017


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See you tomorrow.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 07:05 AM 2017
Are you quick enough to play it on airball machines
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: falkor2k15 on Mar 20, 07:24 AM 2017
QuoteWont mention flat bet the last remaining 8 non-hit, but if you can manually count, just count the last 8 non-hit, here today Falkor +12
Really doesn't make any sense... Please find a better way of wording what you are trying to express or give example re: last 8 non-hits.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Rewster88 on Mar 20, 07:24 AM 2017
Notto,

You ever tought about testing this on streets?


R
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 08:45 AM 2017
Quote from: Rewster88 on Mar 20, 07:24 AM 2017
Notto,

You ever tought about testing this on streets?


R
NO, but was in chat with GLC once and he said the same or dozens.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 08:48 AM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 07:05 AM 2017
Are you quick enough to play it on airball machines

Like to use touch screen at B+M, when busy, then no problem getting units on. Said before have a partner, have two screens one covers 1st 18 the other top 18, you won't have all 18 to place
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 08:55 AM 2017
Why casino spin quicker today than back in the 80's, so you can not cover large spread of #'s.
Should not say this but will.
Aspers have now got everyone playing at 40/45 second spins. Why. Because the touch screens, when busy the live table slows down because of paying out and larger spreads of #'s becomes available.
To overcome this, they now have banks of touchscreens playing only one wheel on a podium, you win,automatic payout and 40/45 seconds to get next bet on, so live tables no longer available with this company, how long till they all do it.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 09:42 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 20, 08:48 AM 2017

Like to use touch screen at B+M, when busy, then no problem getting units on. Said before have a partner, have two screens one covers 1st 18 the other top 18, you won't have all 18 to place

Good idea

My local airball gives 30 seconds. Tight
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 01:05 PM 2017
Notto when I come to Europe we can play airball

I'll take low you take high

Play all day

Split profits.  :P
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 02:14 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 01:05 PM 2017
Notto when I come to Europe we can play airball

I'll take low you take high

Play all day

Split profits.  :P
thats a deal, see you sometime  :)
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 02:25 PM 2017
I have to come back

Before it isn't Europe anymore

If you know what I mean
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 02:38 PM 2017
Yes.
But when the world see D.Trump is right, and start to do as, we'll all be better off.

When we leave that shite hol Europe, we start to build Great Britain again. If the Kaiser's wanna play hard ball, then they can keep there Merc's, audi's and the French can keep their champagne and hard cheese.

Rule Britannia   >:D
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 02:42 PM 2017
Trump is a jerk

But most of the time honest

These days being honest is taboo

Turkish president told Muslim Turks to have as many babies in Europe as possible so they can take it over

This is not conspiracy because he said it!

We all need to wake up or Islam will be majority. And sorry to say, that's no positive thing
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 02:52 PM 2017
Yeah Today a travel expert was asked is it safe where this person was going in turkey, he answered with loads of answers, but didn't answer her question, one answer watch the drivers they are dangerous. So who really wants to go to that shite hole, as gov warning is high terrorist alert.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 02:52 PM 2017
                               Turner will move this soon ROFL
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 03:36 PM 2017
Turkey used to be a nice secular place. Not anymore

I have friends who know people there. If you aren't a Muslim good luck finding a job

It's the way of it

Just facts. If you aren't a Muslim in turkey your life's hard

The recent coup was an attempt to stop the radical islamification

Unfortunately real life facts come off as being offensive. The truth is sometimes offensive

To fix a problem you must recognize there is one

Like with falkor
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 04:06 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 03:36 PM 2017If you aren't a Muslim good luck finding a job
Like Luton they say its there land now and are right, Tony Blair, he knew what he was doing, cu-nt, he dont live in the real world, with us peasants, why he wants to stay in shite hole europe, did he not say we're ignorant and didn't know what we were voting for, really,a Tory wolf in sheep clothing, cough
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 04:13 PM 2017
You don't have to convince me

I've seen videos from the U.K.  Of people saying Britain is ours now

Nuff said

They said it. Not us

Proof :


Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Turner on Mar 21, 06:26 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 20, 02:52 PM 2017
                                     Turner will move this soon ROFL

You were correct. I moved it to the right a bit :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Turner on Mar 21, 06:38 AM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 20, 04:13 PM 2017
You don't have to convince me

I've seen videos from the U.K.  Of people saying Britain is ours now

Nuff said

They said it. Not us

Proof :



This is Anjem Choudary. He is currently doing 5 1/2 years in prison

We cant view this channel in UK. Good old democracy :thumbsup:

Anyhow, I wouldnt click it anyhow or I would have MI5 hiding in the woods behind my house, and rooting through my paper bin.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Mar 21, 07:10 AM 2017
You can't base reality on what one c***head said on camera.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Mar 21, 07:12 AM 2017
But generally muslims don't mix with christians. That's the whole point.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 21, 07:42 AM 2017
I'd agree

But it wasn't one

It's countless

Entire neighborhoods
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Mar 21, 08:02 AM 2017
Yes but is it propaganda? Are the numbers significant? I think in the case of muslims, many of them despise us and our way of life.  Then again man of us reciprocate. But most couldn't give a rats arse. Its hard to know exactly what the case is.

Only thing i know is i don't want any part of bullshit and will avoid it unless its in my face. Most people are the same. The people you see protesting are a minority. Most people don't care enough, muslim or christian.

Like in israel the tv gives you impression of huge wars and conflict but really its just some groups and most people just stay out of it. Tv is not reality.

Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 21, 08:09 AM 2017
For the sake of western civilized world I hope you are right

There is a document from the 90s from Egypt. Clearly states their goal is to populate the west to become majority. See refugee crisis.  It's not conspiracy it's in writing. And a real document. It was used in US courts.

I hope you are right though
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Mar 21, 08:26 AM 2017
There's no doubt that there are some screwed up groups. But such groups don't represent the majority. It only take 1 dickhead at a protest to throw a rock and make the whole protest "violent".

I'm pretty sure things will get a lot worse before better. I don't think it cam be avoided any more than a kid making mistakes as they grow. As i see it, best we can do is just or part, whatever it may be. It would be a big mistake to make it violent, but as usual the minority screw things for the rest of us.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Mar 21, 03:30 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 21, 07:42 AM 2017
I'd agree

But it wasn't one

It's countless

Entire neighborhoods

The Palestinians also had this idea of launching a "demographic war" against Israel by having huge number of babies per family. The idea was that they would "outpopulate" the Israelis in what we call the "Holy Land" and force them out of there.

Many Palestinians, especially those in Gaza (though, less so in the West Bank), bought into that message and started to have huge families (usually at least 5 children per family; sometimes as many as 10 children per family).

So how has this "demographic war" against Israel and the Israelis turned out for them?

Gaza is regarded by many as the largest "jail" in the world. 
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Mar 22, 07:21 AM 2017
You'd have to be stupid to think bringing 10 children into a bad situation was a good thing to do.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 30, 07:07 AM 2017
As said in MoneyT101 topic, just take the first win on non-hit, but with +1/-1 not flat bet.
Heres Morts #'s for today. oh and by the way my toes have become infected again, so another visit soon to the hospital, just the wait,LOL


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So when would you stop and take the profit, 1st profit, or nice big bank roll and stop at spin 65
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 23, 06:06 PM 2017
you've seen these today

betting previous 10 spins, so spins 1-10, repeated spin 11, so -28

spins 11-20 is 8/10, dont repeat spin 21, +7

you see the rest, spin 51 win, all wins +30 less the -28, ends +2

spin 61 is #28 and is not part of spins 51-60, so a win  :thumbsup: 

So bet spin 11 test it yourselves


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Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 23, 06:34 PM 2017
Now ask your self where we win, when do they repeat. Do you now bet they repeat ?
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 23, 07:33 PM 2017
pri 75% 1st 10
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Priyanka on Apr 23, 08:24 PM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 23, 07:33 PM 2017
pri 75% 1st 10
+110 Playing VDW on these numbers.
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Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: maestro on Apr 24, 04:34 AM 2017
i am sure you could have done better than that.. ::)
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 07:19 AM 2017
I see the figures, now can you explain to a keystage 3 maths student, VDW means nothing, sounds like an STD thou

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Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Apr 24, 09:20 AM 2017
Although its still the wrong way to test, see how the results of random bets compares to your system. Test many times to see.

Don't just think about it.  Try it.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 09:45 AM 2017
I think if you play a method like KTF for a two year time span and are up in money with minor losses that do not outweigh the wins then he is doing something right


Even if million spins shows it being down he has a stop loss which all methods need

Good work notto keep winning
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Priyanka on Apr 24, 12:04 PM 2017
Quote from: maestro on Apr 24, 04:34 AM 2017i am sure you could have done better than that.
There is always room for improvement. I was exploring earlier in the random thoughts topic how to remove some Ls and keep the Ws. I was also exploring how to merge games together.

Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 24, 07:19 AM 2017I see the figures, now can you explain to a keystage 3 maths student, VDW means nothing, sounds like an STD thou
Nottop - Hope the following gives you the way to do it in an improved way for today's spins. Try it out and let me know if the KS2 doesnt understand, I am happy to explain. I did code in a hurry, so might have a couple of errors, but mostly in line. It is essentially merging the formation of AP in three separate streams of data playing only the numbers that has appeared on this group. Aim is to keep the numbers unique, merge the betting opportunities so that we do away with some losses and wins to create an imbalance and see where it takes us. NO! not a claim for a winning system, but happy to explain if you have any queries and if you are interested. For one who are looking at trots, this should be interesting. +75 in today's spins.

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Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 12:12 PM 2017
Hi Priyanka, I got a related question: when you advised on reducing apples or pears in the "VdW on ECs" example you posted in the Random Thoughts topic - were you required to bring in any additional streams to create that stunning green graph - or were you able to achieve it simply by tracking just the AP/type and WL streams?
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 12:18 PM 2017
Just to elaborate on my question to Priyanka: were you able to generate the green graph by sticking to VdW on Red and Black - without ever needing to track OE/HL or parachute to them? In other words, if you know the right time to bet normal or opposite then you could generate the graph just from tracking APs and WL results?
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Priyanka on Apr 24, 03:52 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 12:18 PM 2017
Just to elaborate on my question to Priyanka: were you able to generate the green graph by sticking to VdW on Red and Black - without ever needing to track OE/HL or parachute to them? In other words, if you know the right time to bet normal or opposite then you could generate the graph just from tracking APs and WL results?
Green graph was betting on only reds and blacks as I stated.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 04:23 PM 2017
Quote from: Priyanka on Apr 24, 03:52 PM 2017
Green graph was betting on only reds and blacks as I stated.
O0 I think I figured out the solution myself, but I guess using 2-3 streams would give more betting opportunities.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 02:34 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 04:23 PM 2017
O0 I think I figured out the solution myself, but I guess using 2-3 streams would give more betting opportunities.

I can't remember, did you share your solution here, or at your new forum?
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 11:00 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 02:34 PM 2017I can't remember, did you share your solution here, or at your new forum?

Neither. And he never will. You need to wake up and check Falkor's history over the past few years. Followers stay believing they're on the edge of some huge discovery.

If your intention is to actually beat roulette, understand there needs to be something that actually changes the odds in your favor. When considering something new, there must be some kind of "proof of concept", or the talk is just worthless.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: praline on Apr 26, 04:06 PM 2017
Quote from: Priyanka on Apr 24, 12:04 PM 2017Hope the following gives you the way to do it in an improved way for today's spins. Try it out and let me know if the KS2 doesnt understand, I am happy to explain. I did code in a hurry, so might have a couple of errors, but mostly in line. It is essentially merging the formation of AP in three separate streams of data playing only the numbers that has appeared on this group. Aim is to keep the numbers unique, merge the betting opportunities so that we do away with some losses and wins to create an imbalance and see where it takes us. NO! not a claim for a winning system, but happy to explain if you have any queries and if you are interested. For one who are looking at trots, this should be interesting. +75 in today's spins.

I've made tiny code for rx based on what Priyanka is talking about. Will appreciate any corrections and hope somebody will test it to see if all bets are correct...
>:D
[reveal]system "untitled"

method "main"
begin
    While Starting a New Session
    begin
        copy black to record "b" layout
        copy red to record "r" layout
        copy even to record "e" layout
        copy odd to record "o" layout
        copy high to record "h" layout
        copy low to record "l" layout
   
        clear record "red" layout
        clear record "black" layout
        clear record "odd" layout
        clear record "even" layout
        clear record "high" layout
        clear record "low" layout
        clear record "last number" layout
        clear record "last cycle" layout
       
        clear record "1aprb" layout
        clear record "2aprb" layout
        clear record "3aprb" layout
        clear record "4aprb" layout
        clear record "5aprb" layout
        clear record "6aprb" layout
        clear record "7aprb" layout
        clear record "8aprb" layout
        clear record "9aprb" layout
       
        clear record "vdwrb" layout
       
        clear record "1apeo" layout
        clear record "2apeo" layout
        clear record "3apeo" layout
        clear record "4apeo" layout
        clear record "5apeo" layout
        clear record "6apeo" layout
        clear record "7apeo" layout
        clear record "8apeo" layout
        clear record "9apeo" layout

        clear record "vdweo" layout
    end

    While on Each Spin
    begin
          call "flags and ap typefor rb"
          call "flags and ap typefor eo"
          call "flags and ap typefor hl"

   
   

                               copy last number to record "last number" layout
                          if record "last number" layout is found in record "last cycle" layout
                          begin
        clear record "red" layout
        clear record "black" layout
        clear record "odd" layout
        clear record "even" layout
        clear record "high" layout
        clear record "low" layout

                           clear record "last cycle" layout
                           copy last number to record "last cycle" layout
                           
                                if red hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "red" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "red" layout
                                end
                                if black hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "black" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "black" layout
                                end
                               
                                if odd hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "odd" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "odd" layout
                                end
                                if even hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "even" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "even" layout
                                end
                               
                                if high hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "high" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "high" layout
                                end
                                if low hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "low" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "low" layout
                                end

                          end
                          else
                          begin
                           add 1 record "last cycle" layout index
                           copy last number to record "last cycle" layout
                               if red hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "red" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "red" layout
                                end
                                if black hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "black" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "black" layout
                                end

                                if odd hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "odd" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "odd" layout
                                end
                                if even hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "even" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "even" layout
                                end

                                if high hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "high" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "high" layout
                                end
                                if low hit each
                                begin
                                  add 1 to record "low" layout index
                                  copy record "last number" layout to record "low" layout
                                end

                          end


        call "vdwrb"
        call "vdweo"
        call "vdwhl"

    end

end


method "vdwrb"
begin
  if number 0 not hit each
  begin
     if record "vdwrb" layout index = 8
     begin
     copy last red-black to record "9aprb" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwrb" layout index
     copy last red-black to record "vdwrb" layout
     end
     if record "vdwrb" layout index = 7
     begin
     copy last red-black to record "8aprb" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwrb" layout index
     copy last red-black to record "vdwrb" layout
     end
     if record "vdwrb" layout index = 6
     begin
     copy last red-black to record "7aprb" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwrb" layout index
     copy last red-black to record "vdwrb" layout
     end
     if record "vdwrb" layout index = 5
     begin
     copy last red-black to record "6aprb" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwrb" layout index
     copy last red-black to record "vdwrb" layout
     end
     if record "vdwrb" layout index = 4
     begin
     copy last red-black to record "5aprb" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwrb" layout index
     copy last red-black to record "vdwrb" layout
     end
     if record "vdwrb" layout index = 3
     begin
     copy last red-black to record "4aprb" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwrb" layout index
     copy last red-black to record "vdwrb" layout
     end
     if record "vdwrb" layout index = 2
     begin
     copy last red-black to record "3aprb" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwrb" layout index
     copy last red-black to record "vdwrb" layout
     end
     if record "vdwrb" layout index = 1
     begin
     copy last red-black to record "2aprb" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwrb" layout index
     copy last red-black to record "vdwrb" layout
     end
     if record "vdwrb" layout index = 0
     begin
     copy last red-black to record "1aprb" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwrb" layout index
     copy last red-black to record "vdwrb" layout
     end
  end
call "find rb ap"

end

method "find rb ap"
begin

    if record "r" layout is found in record "1aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "2aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 2
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "1ap" true
    end
    if record "r" layout  is found in record "2aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "3aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 3
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "2ap" true
    end
    if record "r"  layout is found in record "1aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "3aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "3ap" true
    end
    if record "r" layout  is found in record "3aprb" layout
    and  record "r"  layout is found in record "4aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "4ap" true
    end
    if record "r" layout  is found in record "4aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "5ap" true
    end
    if record "r"  layout is found in record "2aprb" layout
    and  record "r"  layout is found in record "4aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "6ap" true
    end
    if record "r" layout  is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "6aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "7ap" true
    end
    if record "r"  layout is found in record "1aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "4aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "8ap" true
    end
    if record "r"  layout is found in record "3aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "9ap" true
    end
    if record "r"  layout is found in record "6aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "7aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "10ap" true
    end
    if record "r" layout  is found in record "2aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "11ap" true
    end
    if record "r" layout  is found in record "4aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "6aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "12ap" true
    end
    if record "r" layout  is found in record "7aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "8aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "13ap" true
    end
    if record "r" layout  is found in record "1aprb" layout
    and  record "r" layout  is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "14ap" true
    end
    if record "r"  layout is found in record "3aprb" layout
    and  record "r"  layout is found in record "6aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "15ap" true
    end
    if record "r"  layout is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and  record "r"  layout is found in record "7aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "red" layout list
    set flag "bet red" true
    set flag "16ap" true
    end






     if record "b" layout is found in record "1aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "2aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 2
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "1ap" true
    end
    if record "b" layout  is found in record "2aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "3aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 3
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "2ap" true
    end
    if record "b"  layout is found in record "1aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "3aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "3ap" true
    end
    if record "b" layout  is found in record "3aprb" layout
    and  record "b"  layout is found in record "4aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "4ap" true
    end
    if record "b" layout  is found in record "4aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "5ap" true
    end
    if record "b"  layout is found in record "2aprb" layout
    and  record "b"  layout is found in record "4aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "6ap" true
    end
    if record "b" layout  is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "6aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "7ap" true
    end
    if record "b"  layout is found in record "1aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "4aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "8ap" true
    end
    if record "b"  layout is found in record "3aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "9ap" true
    end
    if record "b"  layout is found in record "6aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "7aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "10ap" true
    end
    if record "b" layout  is found in record "2aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "11ap" true
    end
    if record "b" layout  is found in record "4aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "6aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "12ap" true
    end
    if record "b" layout  is found in record "7aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "8aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "13ap" true
    end
    if record "b" layout  is found in record "1aprb" layout
    and  record "b" layout  is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "14ap" true
    end
    if record "b"  layout is found in record "3aprb" layout
    and  record "b"  layout is found in record "6aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "15ap" true
    end
    if record "b"  layout is found in record "5aprb" layout
    and  record "b"  layout is found in record "7aprb" layout
    and record "vdwrb" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "black" layout list
    set flag "bet black" true
    set flag "16ap" true
    end



end




method "flags and ap typefor rb"
begin

      if flag "bet red"  true
          begin
              if red hit each
              begin
                  if flag "1ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                   
                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "2ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "3ap" true
                  and flag "4ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout

                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "4ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "5ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "6ap" true
                  and flag "5ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "7ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "8ap" true
                  and flag "7ap" false
                  and flag "9ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "4aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "9ap" true
                  and flag "7ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "10ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "11ap" true
                  and flag "12ap" false
                  and flag "10ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "4aprb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "12ap" true
                  and flag "10ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "13ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                    clear record "8aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "14ap" true
                  and flag "13ap" false
                  and flag "15ap" false
                  and flag "16ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "4aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "5aprb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "6aprb" layout
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "7aprb" layout
                    clear record "8aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "15ap" true
                  and flag "13ap" false
                  and flag "16ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "4aprb" layout
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                    clear record "8aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "16ap" true

                  and flag "13ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                    clear record "8aprb" layout
                  end
                 
                 
                 
                 
                 
              end
              set flag "bet red" false

          end
         
         
         
          if flag "bet black"  true
          begin
              if black hit each
              begin
                   if flag "1ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "2ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "3ap" true
                  and flag "4ap" false
                 
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout

                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "4ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "5ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "6ap" true
                  and flag "5ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "7ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "8ap" true
                  and flag "7ap" false
                  and flag "9ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "4aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "9ap" true
                  and flag "7ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "10ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "11ap" true
                  and flag "12ap" false
                  and flag "10ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "4aprb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "12ap" true
                  and flag "10ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "13ap" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    clear record "2aprb" layout
                    clear record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                    clear record "8aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "14ap" true
                  and flag "13ap" false
                  and flag "15ap" false
                  and flag "16ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "2aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "3aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "4aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "5aprb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "6aprb" layout
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "7aprb" layout
                    clear record "8aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "15ap" true
                  and flag "13ap" false
                  and flag "16ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "4aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "5aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "4aprb" layout
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                    clear record "8aprb" layout
                  end
                  if flag "16ap" true

                  and flag "13ap" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwrb" layout
                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwrb" layout index
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "vdwrb" layout

                    copy record "6aprb" layout to record "1aprb" layout
                    copy record "7aprb" layout to record "2aprb" layout
                    copy record "8aprb" layout to record "3aprb" layout
                    clear record "4aprb" layout
                    clear record "5aprb" layout
                    clear record "6aprb" layout
                    clear record "7aprb" layout
                    clear record "8aprb" layout
                  end
              end
              set flag "bet black" false


          end


              set flag "1ap" false
              set flag "2ap" false
              set flag "3ap" false
              set flag "4ap" false
              set flag "5ap" false
              set flag "6ap" false
              set flag "7ap" false
              set flag "8ap" false
              set flag "9ap" false
              set flag "10ap" false
              set flag "11ap" false
              set flag "12ap" false
              set flag "13ap" false
              set flag "14ap" false
              set flag "15ap" false
              set flag "16ap" false

end



method "vdweo"
begin
  if number 0 not hit each
  begin
     if record "vdweo" layout index = 8
     begin
     copy last even-odd to record "9apeo" layout
     add 1 to record "vdweo" layout index
     copy last even-odd to record "vdweo" layout
     end
     if record "vdweo" layout index = 7
     begin
     copy last even-odd to record "8apeo" layout
     add 1 to record "vdweo" layout index
     copy last even-odd to record "vdweo" layout
     end
     if record "vdweo" layout index = 6
     begin
     copy last even-odd to record "7apeo" layout
     add 1 to record "vdweo" layout index
     copy last even-odd to record "vdweo" layout
     end
     if record "vdweo" layout index = 5
     begin
     copy last even-odd to record "6apeo" layout
     add 1 to record "vdweo" layout index
     copy last even-odd to record "vdweo" layout
     end
     if record "vdweo" layout index = 4
     begin
     copy last even-odd to record "5apeo" layout
     add 1 to record "vdweo" layout index
     copy last even-odd to record "vdweo" layout
     end
     if record "vdweo" layout index = 3
     begin
     copy last even-odd to record "4apeo" layout
     add 1 to record "vdweo" layout index
     copy last even-odd to record "vdweo" layout
     end
     if record "vdweo" layout index = 2
     begin
     copy last even-odd to record "3apeo" layout
     add 1 to record "vdweo" layout index
     copy last even-odd to record "vdweo" layout
     end
     if record "vdweo" layout index = 1
     begin
     copy last even-odd to record "2apeo" layout
     add 1 to record "vdweo" layout index
     copy last even-odd to record "vdweo" layout
     end
     if record "vdweo" layout index = 0
     begin
     copy last even-odd to record "1apeo" layout
     add 1 to record "vdweo" layout index
     copy last even-odd to record "vdweo" layout
     end
  end
call "find eo ap"

end

method "find eo ap"
begin

    if record "e" layout is found in record "1apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "2apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 2
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "1apeo" true
    end
    if record "e" layout  is found in record "2apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "3apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 3
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "2apeo" true
    end
    if record "e"  layout is found in record "1apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "3apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "3apeo" true
    end
    if record "e" layout  is found in record "3apeo" layout
    and  record "e"  layout is found in record "4apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "4apeo" true
    end
    if record "e" layout  is found in record "4apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "5apeo" true
    end
    if record "e"  layout is found in record "2apeo" layout
    and  record "e"  layout is found in record "4apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "6apeo" true
    end
    if record "e" layout  is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "6apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "7apeo" true
    end
    if record "e"  layout is found in record "1apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "4apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "8apeo" true
    end
    if record "e"  layout is found in record "3apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "9apeo" true
    end
    if record "e"  layout is found in record "6apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "7apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "10apeo" true
    end
    if record "e" layout  is found in record "2apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "11apeo" true
    end
    if record "e" layout  is found in record "4apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "6apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "12apeo" true
    end
    if record "e" layout  is found in record "7apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "8apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "13apeo" true
    end
    if record "e" layout  is found in record "1apeo" layout
    and  record "e" layout  is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "14apeo" true
    end
    if record "e"  layout is found in record "3apeo" layout
    and  record "e"  layout is found in record "6apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "15apeo" true
    end
    if record "e"  layout is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and  record "e"  layout is found in record "7apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "even" layout list
    set flag "bet even" true
    set flag "16apeo" true
    end






     if record "o" layout is found in record "1apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "2apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 2
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "1apeo" true
    end
    if record "o" layout  is found in record "2apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "3apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 3
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "2apeo" true
    end
    if record "o"  layout is found in record "1apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "3apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "3apeo" true
    end
    if record "o" layout  is found in record "3apeo" layout
    and  record "o"  layout is found in record "4apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "4apeo" true
    end
    if record "o" layout  is found in record "4apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "5apeo" true
    end
    if record "o"  layout is found in record "2apeo" layout
    and  record "o"  layout is found in record "4apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "6apeo" true
    end
    if record "o" layout  is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "6apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "7apeo" true
    end
    if record "o"  layout is found in record "1apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "4apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "8apeo" true
    end
    if record "o"  layout is found in record "3apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "9apeo" true
    end
    if record "o"  layout is found in record "6apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "7apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "10apeo" true
    end
    if record "o" layout  is found in record "2apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "11apeo" true
    end
    if record "o" layout  is found in record "4apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "6apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "12apeo" true
    end
    if record "o" layout  is found in record "7apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "8apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "13apeo" true
    end
    if record "o" layout  is found in record "1apeo" layout
    and  record "o" layout  is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "14apeo" true
    end
    if record "o"  layout is found in record "3apeo" layout
    and  record "o"  layout is found in record "6apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "15apeo" true
    end
    if record "o"  layout is found in record "5apeo" layout
    and  record "o"  layout is found in record "7apeo" layout
    and record "vdweo" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "odd" layout list
    set flag "bet odd" true
    set flag "16apeo" true
    end



end
method "flags and ap typefor eo"
begin

      if flag "bet odd"  true
          begin
              if odd hit each
              begin
                  if flag "1apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "2apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "3apeo" true
                  and flag "4apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout

                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "4apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "5apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "6apeo" true
                  and flag "5apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "7apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "8apeo" true
                  and flag "7apeo" false
                  and flag "9apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "4apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "9apeo" true
                  and flag "7apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "10apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "11apeo" true
                  and flag "12apeo" false
                  and flag "10apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "4apeo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "12apeo" true
                  and flag "10apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "13apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                    clear record "8apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "14apeo" true
                  and flag "13apeo" false
                  and flag "15apeo" false
                  and flag "16apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "4apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "5apeo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "6apeo" layout
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "7apeo" layout
                    clear record "8apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "15apeo" true
                  and flag "13apeo" false
                  and flag "16apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "4apeo" layout
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                    clear record "8apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "16apeo" true

                  and flag "13apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                    clear record "8apeo" layout
                  end
              end
              set flag "bet odd" false

          end



          if flag "bet even"  true
          begin
              if even hit each
              begin
                   if flag "1apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "2apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "3apeo" true
                  and flag "4apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout

                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "4apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "5apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "6apeo" true
                  and flag "5apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "7apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "8apeo" true
                  and flag "7apeo" false
                  and flag "9apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "4apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "9apeo" true
                  and flag "7apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "10apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "11apeo" true
                  and flag "12apeo" false
                  and flag "10apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "4apeo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "12apeo" true
                  and flag "10apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "13apeo" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    clear record "2apeo" layout
                    clear record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                    clear record "8apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "14apeo" true
                  and flag "13apeo" false
                  and flag "15apeo" false
                  and flag "16apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "2apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "3apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "4apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "5apeo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "6apeo" layout
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "7apeo" layout
                    clear record "8apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "15apeo" true
                  and flag "13apeo" false
                  and flag "16apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "4apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "5apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "4apeo" layout
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                    clear record "8apeo" layout
                  end
                  if flag "16apeo" true

                  and flag "13apeo" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdweo" layout
                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout
                    add 1 record "vdweo" layout index
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "vdweo" layout

                    copy record "6apeo" layout to record "1apeo" layout
                    copy record "7apeo" layout to record "2apeo" layout
                    copy record "8apeo" layout to record "3apeo" layout
                    clear record "4apeo" layout
                    clear record "5apeo" layout
                    clear record "6apeo" layout
                    clear record "7apeo" layout
                    clear record "8apeo" layout
                  end
              end
              set flag "bet even" false


          end


              set flag "1apeo" false
              set flag "2apeo" false
              set flag "3apeo" false
              set flag "4apeo" false
              set flag "5apeo" false
              set flag "6apeo" false
              set flag "7apeo" false
              set flag "8apeo" false
              set flag "9apeo" false
              set flag "10apeo" false
              set flag "11apeo" false
              set flag "12apeo" false
              set flag "13apeo" false
              set flag "14apeo" false
              set flag "15apeo" false
              set flag "16apeo" false

end


method "vdwhl"
begin
  if number 0 not hit each
  begin
     if record "vdwhl" layout index = 8
     begin
     copy last high-low to record "9aphl" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwhl" layout index
     copy last high-low to record "vdwhl" layout
     end
     if record "vdwhl" layout index = 7
     begin
     copy last high-low to record "8aphl" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwhl" layout index
     copy last high-low to record "vdwhl" layout
     end
     if record "vdwhl" layout index = 6
     begin
     copy last high-low to record "7aphl" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwhl" layout index
     copy last high-low to record "vdwhl" layout
     end
     if record "vdwhl" layout index = 5
     begin
     copy last high-low to record "6aphl" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwhl" layout index
     copy last high-low to record "vdwhl" layout
     end
     if record "vdwhl" layout index = 4
     begin
     copy last high-low to record "5aphl" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwhl" layout index
     copy last high-low to record "vdwhl" layout
     end
     if record "vdwhl" layout index = 3
     begin
     copy last high-low to record "4aphl" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwhl" layout index
     copy last high-low to record "vdwhl" layout
     end
     if record "vdwhl" layout index = 2
     begin
     copy last high-low to record "3aphl" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwhl" layout index
     copy last high-low to record "vdwhl" layout
     end
     if record "vdwhl" layout index = 1
     begin
     copy last high-low to record "2aphl" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwhl" layout index
     copy last high-low to record "vdwhl" layout
     end
     if record "vdwhl" layout index = 0
     begin
     copy last high-low to record "1aphl" layout
     add 1 to record "vdwhl" layout index
     copy last high-low to record "vdwhl" layout
     end
  end
call "find hl ap"

end

method "find hl ap"
begin

    if record "l" layout is found in record "1aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "2aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 2
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "1aphl" true
    end
    if record "l" layout  is found in record "2aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "3aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 3
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "2aphl" true
    end
    if record "l"  layout is found in record "1aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "3aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "3aphl" true
    end
    if record "l" layout  is found in record "3aphl" layout
    and  record "l"  layout is found in record "4aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "4aphl" true
    end
    if record "l" layout  is found in record "4aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "5aphl" true
    end
    if record "l"  layout is found in record "2aphl" layout
    and  record "l"  layout is found in record "4aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "6aphl" true
    end
    if record "l" layout  is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "6aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "7aphl" true
    end
    if record "l"  layout is found in record "1aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "4aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "8aphl" true
    end
    if record "l"  layout is found in record "3aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "9aphl" true
    end
    if record "l"  layout is found in record "6aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "7aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "10aphl" true
    end
    if record "l" layout  is found in record "2aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "11aphl" true
    end
    if record "l" layout  is found in record "4aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "6aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "12aphl" true
    end
    if record "l" layout  is found in record "7aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "8aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "13aphl" true
    end
    if record "l" layout  is found in record "1aphl" layout
    and  record "l" layout  is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "14aphl" true
    end
    if record "l"  layout is found in record "3aphl" layout
    and  record "l"  layout is found in record "6aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "15aphl" true
    end
    if record "l"  layout is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and  record "l"  layout is found in record "7aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "low" layout list
    set flag "bet low" true
    set flag "16aphl" true
    end






     if record "h" layout is found in record "1aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "2aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 2
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "1aphl" true
    end
    if record "h" layout  is found in record "2aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "3aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 3
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "2aphl" true
    end
    if record "h"  layout is found in record "1aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "3aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "3aphl" true
    end
    if record "h" layout  is found in record "3aphl" layout
    and  record "h"  layout is found in record "4aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 4
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "4aphl" true
    end
    if record "h" layout  is found in record "4aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "5aphl" true
    end
    if record "h"  layout is found in record "2aphl" layout
    and  record "h"  layout is found in record "4aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 5
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "6aphl" true
    end
    if record "h" layout  is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "6aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "7aphl" true
    end
    if record "h"  layout is found in record "1aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "4aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "8aphl" true
    end
    if record "h"  layout is found in record "3aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 6
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "9aphl" true
    end
    if record "h"  layout is found in record "6aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "7aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "10aphl" true
    end
    if record "h" layout  is found in record "2aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "11aphl" true
    end
    if record "h" layout  is found in record "4aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "6aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 7
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "12aphl" true
    end
    if record "h" layout  is found in record "7aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "8aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "13aphl" true
    end
    if record "h" layout  is found in record "1aphl" layout
    and  record "h" layout  is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "14aphl" true
    end
    if record "h"  layout is found in record "3aphl" layout
    and  record "h"  layout is found in record "6aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "15aphl" true
    end
    if record "h"  layout is found in record "5aphl" layout
    and  record "h"  layout is found in record "7aphl" layout
    and record "vdwhl" layout index = 8
    begin
    put 1 on record "high" layout list
    set flag "bet high" true
    set flag "16aphl" true
    end



end


method "flags and ap typefor hl"
begin

      if flag "bet low"  true
          begin
              if low hit each
              begin
                  if flag "1aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "2aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "3aphl" true
                  and flag "4aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout

                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "4aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "5aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "6aphl" true
                  and flag "5aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "7aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "8aphl" true
                  and flag "7aphl" false
                  and flag "9aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "4aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "9aphl" true
                  and flag "7aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "10aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "11aphl" true
                  and flag "12aphl" false
                  and flag "10aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "4aphl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "12aphl" true
                  and flag "10aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "13aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                    clear record "8aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "14aphl" true
                  and flag "13aphl" false
                  and flag "15aphl" false
                  and flag "16aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "4aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "5aphl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "6aphl" layout
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "7aphl" layout
                    clear record "8aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "15aphl" true
                  and flag "13aphl" false
                  and flag "16aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "4aphl" layout
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                    clear record "8aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "16aphl" true

                  and flag "13aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                    clear record "8aphl" layout
                  end





              end
              set flag "bet low" false

          end



          if flag "bet high"  true
          begin
              if high hit each
              begin
                  if flag "1aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "2aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "3aphl" true
                  and flag "4aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout

                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "4aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "5aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "6aphl" true
                  and flag "5aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "7aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "8aphl" true
                  and flag "7aphl" false
                  and flag "9aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "4aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "9aphl" true
                  and flag "7aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "10aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "11aphl" true
                  and flag "12aphl" false
                  and flag "10aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "4aphl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "12aphl" true
                  and flag "10aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "13aphl" true
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    clear record "2aphl" layout
                    clear record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                    clear record "8aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "14aphl" true
                  and flag "13aphl" false
                  and flag "15aphl" false
                  and flag "16aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "2aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "3aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "4aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "5aphl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "6aphl" layout
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "7aphl" layout
                    clear record "8aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "15aphl" true
                  and flag "13aphl" false
                  and flag "16aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "4aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "5aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "4aphl" layout
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                    clear record "8aphl" layout
                  end
                  if flag "16aphl" true

                  and flag "13aphl" false
                  begin
                    clear record "vdwhl" layout
                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout
                    add 1 record "vdwhl" layout index
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "vdwhl" layout

                    copy record "6aphl" layout to record "1aphl" layout
                    copy record "7aphl" layout to record "2aphl" layout
                    copy record "8aphl" layout to record "3aphl" layout
                    clear record "4aphl" layout
                    clear record "5aphl" layout
                    clear record "6aphl" layout
                    clear record "7aphl" layout
                    clear record "8aphl" layout
                  end
              end
              set flag "bet high" false


          end


              set flag "1aphl" false
              set flag "2aphl" false
              set flag "3aphl" false
              set flag "4aphl" false
              set flag "5aphl" false
              set flag "6aphl" false
              set flag "7aphl" false
              set flag "8aphl" false
              set flag "9aphl" false
              set flag "10aphl" false
              set flag "11aphl" false
              set flag "12aphl" false
              set flag "13aphl" false
              set flag "14aphl" false
              set flag "15aphl" false
              set flag "16aphl" false

end

[/reveal]
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: bigmoney on Apr 27, 04:00 AM 2017
Just played ktf at a bricks and motar casino
Using a 15 step progression 
First three series ok
And 4th series FAILED
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: bigmoney on Apr 27, 04:02 AM 2017
I was betting on the 8 remainig numbers and when the first hit of my  8 numbers ...
Started a whole new game using the next 8 hit remaining numbers
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: bigmoney on Apr 27, 07:12 AM 2017
I meant 8 unhit numbers
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Kattila on Apr 27, 07:51 AM 2017
BigM,
I am not fan of ktf , but  why did you used such long and
negative progression on the 8 unhit numbers     :question:
Not sure about statistics on KTF , but IF there is a good avarage
to hit the 8 unhit in the first 4 or five spins, then after the *trigger*
bet for max. 4 or 5 spins , then W   or L4 ( L5) stop , bet again
after new *trigger*.  Also could use some `possitive progression/ levels :
1,1,2,3 / 3,4,4,5 / 6,6,7,8 / 9,10,12, 15/ 20,25,30, 50 ......
Rise level only after W, after L4 down one level. 
IF sessions ( not spins) looks like LWLLLWLLWLLLWWLL  not good, if
looks like LWLWLLWWLWLLWWLLWLWLWWW  then ok.
Test before play it for real.

cheers
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: bigmoney on Apr 27, 08:01 AM 2017
Well i played it

And lost 791 sollars and ouch ot hurts and will never play ktf  again
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 27, 05:00 PM 2017
Quote from: bigmoney on Apr 27, 07:12 AM 2017
I meant 8 unhit numbers

and said to flat bet those remaining 8#'s. Look at bottom of reply 20 in 75%.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 27, 05:32 PM 2017
Big M, here is result for betting the 8 remaining on jackpot obviously the 29th has just hit
So the total spins =1149, so you have flat bet every spin = 9192. The return is 36 (35-1) 297*36= 10692


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Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: bigmoney on Apr 27, 11:11 PM 2017
Well matey ktf tanked big time and i lost $809
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Apr 28, 12:06 AM 2017
Quote from: bigmoney on Apr 27, 11:11 PM 2017
Well matey ktf tanked big time and i lost $809

You should never bet real money with a system unless you are first consistently winning in practice sessions. I recommend it even with my own systems because players can make mistakes.

Proper testing is a hell of a lot more spins than most people want to test. But even more important than testing the full system is TESTING THE WORKING PRINCIPLE OF THE SYSTEM - THE PART THAT SUPPOSEDLY CHANGES THE ODDS.

Why is changing the odds so important? Because if the odds dont change, and the payouts don't change, then NOTHING changes. You still end up losing in the long term. Hence.. "The only way to win roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions".

HOW you do that is another matter.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: bigmoney on Apr 28, 07:03 AM 2017
Well i did backtest it ...obviously  not long enough
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 28, 07:10 AM 2017
All systems fail at some point

Stoploss is the key
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: nottophammer on May 08, 07:04 PM 2017
Quote from: Priyanka on Apr 24, 12:04 PM 2017
There is always room for improvement. I was exploring earlier in the random thoughts topic how to remove some Ls and keep the Ws. I was also exploring how to merge games together.
Nottop - Hope the following gives you the way to do it in an improved way for today's spins. Try it out and let me know if the KS2 doesnt understand, I am happy to explain. I did code in a hurry, so might have a couple of errors, but mostly in line. It is essentially merging the formation of AP in three separate streams of data playing only the numbers that has appeared on this group. Aim is to keep the numbers unique, merge the betting opportunities so that we do away with some losses and wins to create an imbalance and see where it takes us. NO! not a claim for a winning system, but happy to explain if you have any queries and if you are interested. For one who are looking at trots, this should be interesting. +75 in today's spins.

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In VDW am i on the right path, if i am, i will leave it alone, thanks
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Jun 27, 06:59 PM 2019
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 28, 07:10 AM 2017
All systems fail at some point

Stoploss is the key

Stoploss is just a precaution for gamblers, so their wives dont make then sleep in the doghouse. It is not a key to anything else.

The only way to consistently win is increase accuracy of predictions. At least thats what i heard.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Let Me Win on Jun 28, 07:47 AM 2019
In your first post Notto you state that in the end the FOBT "knows" your bet selection.

This is total nonsense.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: The General on Jun 28, 10:08 PM 2019
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After having viewed Notto's graphs it's obvious that the system crashes.  The longer it's played, the larger the losses grow. This is why he only posts six or seven spins at a time.  When he does post larger plots you can see the bankroll crash.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: bigmoney on Jun 29, 02:40 AM 2019
Well general
Lotsa people make money off  nottos teachings ....much better than the law of the third crowd of HINTERS ......and lets not forget the greatest fallacy .....VADDIS ....... ba ha ha
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: The General on Jun 29, 06:49 AM 2019
Quote from: bigmoney on Jun 29, 02:40 AM 2019
Well general
Lotsa people make money off  nottos teachings ...

No they don't. ::)
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Jun 29, 10:29 AM 2019
Quote from: bigmoney on Jun 29, 02:40 AM 2019Lotsa people make money off  nottos teachings

There are winners and losers. Losers move on. Winners think they have the hg, until they lose winnings and more. Wake up and see the cycle.

Quote from: bigmoney on Jun 29, 02:40 AM 2019....much better than the law of the third crowd of HINTERS ......and lets not forget the greatest fallacy .....VADDIS ....... ba ha ha

Actually it's the same shit. The expectation is still the same.

The only difference between losing systems is the amount bet, and numbers covered. The effect of the differences is misinterpreted.

There are some very experienced players here. The advice is free. Understand what's being said. The explanations are clear.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: jono1167 on Jun 29, 08:43 PM 2019
Quote from: bigmoney on Jun 29, 02:40 AM 2019
Well general
Lotsa people make money off  nottos teachings ....much better than the law of the third crowd of HINTERS ......and lets not forget the greatest fallacy .....VADDIS ....... ba ha ha

I tested KTF extensively last year. It’s the only method I have felt confident enough to play for real money.

I played 134 games for only four losses. KTF is generally very reliable, although it’s possible to get hit with a bad run where it’s impossible for your bankroll to recover. 

I implemented a stop-loss of 200 units. This worked for me. It would take an average of 8 games to get the bank-roll back on par after a loss.

Notto is always very helpful. Unlike a lot of people he doesn’t speak in riddles.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Jun 29, 08:55 PM 2019
Say 100 people use the same system.

50 lose quickly and move on.

30 win for a while, and think the system is great, until they lose.

15 win for much longer, and think the system is great, until they lose.

5 win for a year or so, and think the system is great. They tell all the doubters they're wrong, and they defend the system. Until they lose.

See the pattern?

Almost every system is just random bets, and the player thinks theres some workable logic to it.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: Steve on Jun 29, 08:59 PM 2019
And really i admire nottos efforts and sharing. No problem there. But it's in vain because, like most systems, they make the same mistakes. Its not hard to understand why. It is explained constantly.
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: The General on Jun 29, 11:34 PM 2019
Quote from: Steve on Jun 29, 08:59 PM 2019
And really i admire nottos efforts and sharing.

Since you point it out, I guess I have to agree. 
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 02, 02:19 AM 2019


There are some very experienced players here. The advice is free. Understand what's being said. The explanations are clear.
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Which ones are you  talking about steve ?
Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: The General on Jul 02, 07:34 PM 2019
Quote from: bigmoney on Jul 02, 02:19 AM 2019

There are some very experienced players here. The advice is free. Understand what's being said. The explanations are clear.

Which ones are you  talking about steve ?

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Bigmoney,

I'm without a doubt the most experienced and best looking player on this forum.  Just ask Notto.

Title: Re: KTF, is just like living in Paradise
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 02, 08:04 PM 2019
Lol general ur takin the piss