This is the best bet i can figure. I can't "increase the accuracy", so, the betselection matters less, the progression matters more. It's not a bulletproof system, (and it will lose sometimes), but in the End, you should win more than you lose. (That's all that matters to me!)
Procedure: First dozen that hits, (that will be your playground) place one DS at the unhit part of that particular dozen. For each hit, bets are re-placed at the unhit part of the dozen bet..
For an example number 7 hits, (that is dozen 1, DS 7/12) now you place 1u at DS 1/6... Let's say number 4 HIT, now you re-place the bet at DS 7/12, and so on..
Progression: Begin do 5 spins THEN double bets, and then double bets for each 3 losses in a row, until hit (or until stoploss is reached)
Bank/stoploss: 500u (played with 1u bets)
First tests was played with 1u bets (wingoal +100u, stoploss -500u)
9/10 Games won
17/20 Games won
calculating wins/losses
Losses 3*500= -1500u (in reality losses would be less if played with a 500u bankroll..)
wins:
100
101
100
102
315
101
102
189
100
100
100
103
145
143
208
103
105
= +2217u
Total = +717u
26/30 Games won
Re-calculating wins/losses
losses: 1*500= -500u
wins:
144
224
129
111
128
109
106
144
104
= +1199u
(+717u)
Total= +1416u
Hi Ignatus,
Nice easy one this. Thanks. Keep up the good work.
One tweak I would suggest is looking at past 15/20 or so spins and determine the dominant dozen and use that one as your playground. Keep a watch as play progresses for a dominance for one of the other dozens to emerge. Have looked at some back sessions and this definitely helped. Also flat betting looked a possibility.
I will have a try over week-end.
Where are you doing your testing? It seems a bit of a common occurrence for your systems to win intially and then have a few losses. Looks like it can not be a coincidence. Is it roulette software causing it?
Anyway, with most of your systems you ended in profit despite a few losses so is this the best we can hope for in roulette?
Have you seen the 59 step progression (snakes and ladder type) for betting 1 D/S. May be better than just doubling stakes.
Good luck, Brian
Quote from: bleep24 on Mar 31, 03:52 AM 2017Have you seen the 59 step progression (snakes and ladder type) for betting 1 D/S
Hi bleep :) No i haven't seen this progression! Perhaps you can link, or post it?
I doubt a different betselection (hot doz etc) would give a different result?? I also doubt that flatbetting would work. what it seems 1-2 losses for every 10 session is the rule, (but then it still ends up in profit) So far so good!...
I use Roulette Xtreme for all my testings (played with real live-spins)...
Feel free to tweak and test as you wish, (the only tweak i can think of is a different progression!)..
cheers
Hi Ignatus,
Thanks for the info. Yes, you are probably correct about flat betting this not suitable.
I still think that looking at past spins before start betting will give us an edge. As this is so easy to track what about playing 2 dozens at same time?
59 step progression for single D/S was posted on this forum by Hermes.18 October, 2013.
Cheers,
Brian
OK bleep. thx :)
Now i've got a 10/10 games. (but it was very close to the edge 2 times).. so, what do we got so far?
36/40 Games won (And that's a 90% winrate!) O0
re-calculating wins/losses...
losses: 0
wins:
100
104
104
183
101
100
146
104
147
102
= +1191u
(+1416u)
Total= +2607u
Another 9/10..
45/50 Games won O0
Hi Ignatius,
when you have decided on your "playground dozen" do you stay with that particular dozen until the very end of the session? Is this how you play it?
And approximately how many spins is a session?
Quote from: Tekunda on Apr 03, 05:31 PM 2017
Hi Ignatius,
when you have decided on your "playground dozen" do you stay with that particular dozen until the very end of the session? Is this how you play it?
And approximately how many spins is a session?
Hi :) Yes, that's right, the same dozen is played... as you can see in the charts a 100u wingoal is reached within ~100 spins, sometimes more sometimes less!
Hi again,
I admit being intrigued by your win/loss ratio. So please allow me another question :
Let's assume that dozen 3 is the playground.
So DS 31/36 hits which means that we need to bet DS 25/30. We bet but we loose.
Do we keep on betting DS 25/30 until we win, or do we stop betting after the first loss and wait until dozen 3 (one of its DS) shows up again?
Quote from: Tekunda on Apr 04, 05:39 AM 2017So DS 31/36 hits which means that we need to bet DS 25/30. We bet but we loose.
Do we keep on betting DS 25/30 until we win,
Yes, that's right! :)
Please forgive me, Ignatus, if for me the strategy is still not totally clear.
If we use the above example our Dozen was #3 and the DS hit was in 31/36.
So we keep betting until eventually DS 25/30 hits.
Now since this again is a hit in our Dozen 3, do we start betting again right away, this time DS 31/36 until it hits? Or do we stop betting after a win and wait for another show of Dozen 3 down the road.
Played the first way would mean that we constantly keep betting every single coup.
We keep betting until our DS appears, count it as a win and start betting right away again.
A never-stopping betting cycle until we hit our win goal or our stop/loss.
Quote from: Tekunda on Apr 04, 11:19 AM 2017So we keep betting until eventually DS 25/30 hits.
Now since this again is a hit in our Dozen 3, do we start betting again right away, this time DS 31/36 until it hits?
This is correct. When one DS hits, you just switch the bet to the other unhit DS (within the Doz bet).
It works till a dozen sleeps for 15+ times and then when it hits again, it hits unbet DS or even worse, sleep again for a few other spins. Definitely needs a solid trigger to start betting, however decent profit when it hits after going down progression :)
Quote from: Sina Rostami on Apr 05, 01:17 AM 2017Definitely needs a solid trigger to start betting
No, we need a decent stoploss and wingoal, and that is already defined. Playing with: wingoal +100u, stoploss -500u 45/50 Games won, that gives a nice profit, in the long run...
I'm crazy. Played this for real @Eurogrand and won 100SEK! ;D (Starting bankroll 200SEK),
Tried the RNG roulette,(that didn't seemed to be rigged)
It could be played with 1SEK bets, and that's very small stakes, (the smallest you could play). Now, im just testing, im going to withdraw 100SEK, so if i continue, if lost, i still would only lose 100SEK.
This is just for fun, for real.
To be continued...
I've withdrawn 100+100+100SEK >:D so, no matter if i win or lose my 200 now, im still +100SEK :)
So far, with my 200SEK playmoney (that i have still left on my account) i've withdrawn profits now 100+100+100+100SEK ;D Guess i've been "lucky" was close to losing 2-3 times in total, but 200u playing with 1u bets seems to be a good BR to play with. I take my chances, so far so good. im aware that i can lose at any time now, but still, im in profit...
Lady luck is smiling at me today! So far, won +500SEK. 8)
Just ignore me, like you use to do... Guess i've been very lucky? i don't know. +600SEK now, tripled my profits with my playmoney 200SEK (That i have still on my account) not lost yet. Been CLOSE to losing several times...
I think Eurogrand has software playtech.
Playtech and net ent RNG is joke, even if you have good strategies, winning on past spins and real Rng, you will lose in this type of software.
Only sincere Rng is betvoyager, but by disconnection totally not playable.
Could i repeat my success with this system? Yes? Was it just "random luck"? idk? But this may be one of my best RNG strategies.
Now, tested with pure random spins in RX, won 8/10.
I thought the RNG i played with @Eurogrand was fixed in my favor, but no? This system do really works.
BR needed: only 200u.
wingoal: 100u
calculating wins/losses
Losses: 2*200= -400u
Wins: 8*100= +800u
Total= +400u
Hi could you show Hermes 59 step progression I cannot find it
Tom
Quote from: joiner29 on Apr 23, 01:52 PM 2017
Hi could you show Hermes 59 step progression I cannot find it
Tom
Maybe this is what you are looking for:
link:://forum.x/?topic=471.0
I lowered the wingoal to +50u (and stoploss -200u) 10/10 Games won, played with winkel's extended fibonacci, that you should know by now? (i just found it yesterday, and it seems to work well!)....Thanks Kattila & winkel!
Progression: 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 5 5 5 5 5 8 8 8 8 8 13 13 13 13 13....and so on. Stay at the same level when hit, (if not reached a new high) go back 1 step if ALMOST reached a new high. etc.
This was played with random numbers in RX
Hi Ignatus,
I am monitoring DS on live wheels for a few days. Something I noticed is, very often within 10 spins or so an unhit DS within same Doz shows up. we can really take advantage of this situation if apply this strategy to the last DS spun. Please see attached photo. 5 Unhit Ds spun within 19 spins. In this case a sleeping Doz/DS doesn't really matter as we continuously move with the flow of the game.
Cheers
Sina