I have never been good at coming up with progressions
lets say, hypothetically speaking you were doing a 3 step bet series
1st bet was 3DS (18 numbers)
if it is lost 2nd bet is 4DS (24 numbers)
if it is lost 3rd bet is 5DS (30 numbers)
would the proper progression for one unit profit be
1 1 1 (1 unit on 3 lines)
2 2 2 2 (2 units on 4 lines)
6 6 6 6 6 (6 units on 5 lines)
a 1-2-6 progression
It jumps quite high to 12 units per line on the 3rd spin to win just 1 unit.
You wish, RG....
Proper progression would be 1-2-12!
Thanks. I had an idea that works 99% of the time but not worth the risk of that progression
$355 buy in with $5 chips
One bust would require 71 wins to recover lol
To add to this: how often do 6 unique double streets in a row show?
My idea was wait for 3 unique in a row. Bet those 3. If lose bet those 4. If lose bet those 5
Was just an idea that popped
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 17, 10:17 AM 2017
To add to this: how often do 6 unique double streets in a row show?
My idea was wait for 3 unique in a row. Bet those 3. If lose bet those 4. If lose bet those 5
Was just an idea that popped
Sir I have tested it, its working very well, but how about waiting for 4 unique DS in a row and then start 1-2-12 prog?
or any other better progression idea?
I am not a fan of the progression
But like you, I've had good results in zumma
6 unique DS in a row to show is most definitely a rarity.
Waiting for 4 unique is "safer"
If anyone on the forum reading this has live wheel results showing 6 unique DS in a row I'd definitely like to see
Hey RG, here are some stats on double streets.
Out of 30k live spins from a double zero wheel. I looked at rolling 6 spins. Here is the distribution of unique values in 6 spins.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/04/18/temp_553835.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/AXYL)
3% of the time six spins will have six unique DS.
Quote from: bobby on Apr 18, 11:03 AM 2017
Hey RG, here are some stats on double streets.
Out of 30k live spins from a double zero wheel. I looked at rolling 6 spins. Here is the distribution of unique values in 6 spins.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/04/18/temp_553835.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/AXYL)
3% of the time six spins will have six unique DS.
Thanks bobby for this data.
I have 2 requests to you:
1) Can you provide data with Single Zero?
2) Can you give any sample excel sheet where I input my spin data and get similar stats result like yours?
thanks and regards
SugTips
Now the question is given this math of averages can a 1 2 12 survive
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 20, 06:24 AM 2017
Now the question is given this math of averages can a 1 2 12 survive
we need to test below on single zero table:
always start prog after 3 unique, if lost wait for another 3 uniq,
then we need to check that 1-2-12 will survive or not.
I am surviving till now but still on smaller data test, needs test on large data size
Quote from: bobby on Apr 18, 11:03 AM 2017
Hey RG, here are some stats on double streets.
Out of 30k live spins from a double zero wheel. I looked at rolling 6 spins. Here is the distribution of unique values in 6 spins.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/04/18/temp_553835.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/AXYL)
3% of the time six spins will have six unique DS.
4 uniques most likely
How can we use this info
4 uniques per 6 = 2+ repeats per 6 > 67% of the time...
6 unique happens only 3 % of the time
Surprised the thread is silent
RG - it half of that closer to 1.5%. Once I used to wait for 6uniques to happen and then play once for a repeat within 4 spins. Forgot how the results came out. But I remember that it was not a long wait. Within a set of 60 spins, I had and average of 2-3 times when I had 6 uniques.
6 unique DS in a row?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 08:26 AM 2017
6 unique DS in a row?
Yes. For example, check the Efbet spins posted by Mortagon today. 6 unique DS happens from the 4th spin.
Check spins from yesterday. It happens twice in about 100 spins.
Today's spins
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/04/24/temp_269889.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/RmdA)
Yesterday's spins
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/04/24/temp_900447.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Rrjs)
Trying to create a system around this. Perhaps wait for 3 or 4 uniques then bet in some type of way
Not a long wait
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 11:22 AM 2017
Trying to create a system around this. Perhaps wait for 3 or 4 uniques then bet in some type of way
Not a long wait
Tried a few times, it always comes out failure. I even tried for 5 uniques and put a progression around it. I got 3 continuous 5 uniques :). Let me know how you get along. Happy to help testing if there is a way. DS do interest me a lot! :thumbsup:
RG,
Try this easy bet selection for two double streets:
bet two ds in position back 3 and 4 , or positions 2 and 3
Attack for 4 spins, W or L4 change to new trigger
Progression possitive levels ( rise level after w )
1,1,2,3 / 4,5,6,7 / 8,9,10,12 / 12,14,15,20 / 22,25,30,35 /
40,50,60,80 .
Never rise bets after L4, down one level or stay at same level
Use target and stop lose ( for ex. + 150, and -300 )
After two attacks better wait few spins ( wait changes)
can wait 2 or 3 spins , your choise
24 4
25 5
15 3 bet 4 and 5
14 2 l1
26 5 w , bet 5 and 3
13 3 w
12 2
24 4 bet 3 and 2
24 4 l1
9 2 w, bet 2 and 4
5 1 l1
11 2 w
7 2
31 6 bet 1 ad 2
28 5 l1
32 6 l2
3 1 w, bet 5 and 6
6 1 l1
0 0 l2
9 2 l3
35 6 w
24 4
36 6 bet 2 and 6
11 2 w, bet 4 an 6
20 4 w
28 5
15 3 bet 4 and 2
26 5 l1
31 6 l2
10 2 w, bet 3 an 5
24 4 l1
30 5 w
30 5
24 4 bet 4 and 5
22 4 w, bet 5 and 4
30 5 w
9 2
13 3
16 3 bet 2 and 5
4 1 l1
11 2 w, bet 2 and 3
35 6 l1
6 1 l2
33 6 l3
30 5 l4 stop
0 0
14 3
7 2
12 2 bet 3 and 5
6 1 l1
33 6 l2
27 5 w , bet 1 and 2
11 2 w
33 6
2 1 bet 2 and 5
28 5 w, bet 2 and 6
6 1 l1
1 1 l2
33 6 w
19 4
18 3
10 2 bet 4 and 6
25 5 l1
35 6 w, bet 2 and 3
15 3 w
16 3
36 6 bet 3 and 6
30 5 l1
33 6 w, bet 3 and 6
36 6 w
23 4
35 6
1 1
I can show more bet selections , just tell me(for two Ds or 4 Ds)
cheers
Nice one. How do you play the progressions. Little confused there. Did you play 1,1,2,3 and winning that go to 4,56,7 and if lost at L4 stay at 1,1,23
Hi Pri,
Yes like that or there are more variations.
Win on lev 1 go to lev 2, lost lev 2 go to lev 1 and stay there until w then rise to lev 2.
So can rise level only after win, after lose
any level go down one level .....or stay at the same until w then rise again.Also when new
high in bankroll can reset tp lev 1.
If for example catch a bad session reset before to have new high, so reset when close to last high or reset when break even( or around). Or......
Also if win flat bet lev 1 , can stay flat , then when L4 still stay lev 1until w, now rise level.
Another bet selection,
First try to make chops( ababa...), if not possible
make other patterns ( aabba, ababb, aabbb ..etc...)
Always need min. 5 spins (or 6), if chops bet FTL, if
other pattern bet the second last position ( SLP).
24 4 a
25 5 b
15 3 a
14 2 b
26 5 b bet second last position (SLP)
13 3 a l1
12 2 b w
--------------------------------
24 4 a
24 4 a
5 1 b
11 2 b
7 2 b bet slp
31 6 a new l1
28 5 a new l2
32 6 a w
----------------------------------
3 1
0 0
9 2 a
35 6 b
24 4 a
36 6 b
11 2 a bet FTL
20 4 a w
--------------------------
28 5 a
15 3 b
26 5 a
31 6 b
10 2 a ftl
24 4 b new l1
30 5 a l2
30 5 a w
....................................
24 4 a
22 4 a
30 5 b
9 2 b
13 3 a slp
16 3 a l1
4 1 b new l2
11 2 b l3 stop
-------------------------------
35 6 a
6 1 b
33 6 a
30 5 b
0 0
14 3 a ftl
7 2 b new l1
12 2 b w
----------------------------------------
6 1 a
33 6 b
27 5 a
11 2 b
33 6 b slp
2 1 a l1
28 5 a l2
6 1 a w
------------------------------------
1 1 a
33 6 b
19 4 a
18 3 b
10 2 a ftl
25 5 b new l1
35 6 b w
----------------------------------
15 3 a
16 3 a
36 6 b
30 5 b
33 6 b slp
36 6 b w
--------------------------------
23 4 a
35 6 b
1 1 a
12 2 b
2 1 a ftl
28 5 b new l1
5 1 a l2
23 4 a w
------------------------------
13 3 a
31 6 b
17 3 a
2 1 b
3 1 b slp
21 4 a new l1
7 2 a new l2
2 1 b l3 stop
.........................................
5 1 a
13 3 a
32 6 b
32 6 b
5 1 a slp
36 6 b w
--------------------------
26 5 a
8 2 b
23 4 a
31 6 b
19 4 a ftl
20 4 a w
---------------------------
10 2 a
4 1 b
11 2 a
16 3 b
36 6 a ftl
21 4 b new l1
9 2 a l2
15 3 b l3 stop
-----------------------------
17 3 a
22 4 b
11 2 a
31 6 b
7 2 a ftl
13 3 a w
----------------------------
30 5 a
9 2 b
15 3 a
27 5 a
34 6 b slp
33 6 b l1
17 3 a l2
10 2 b w
Hi All,
how about this :
idea from an old post:
how many times we see DS coming like this: 1,2,3,4,5,6
how about betting like this first ds, 1&2 ds, 123 ds, 1234ds, 12345ds, 12345ds, 12345ds.
using kattila prog or winkel ext-fib (as suggested by Ignatus), seems both similar
Love and Light,
SugTips
Sugtips - are you suggesting the first bet will be on one DS1. Second bet on DS1 and DS2 and so on.
Quote from: Priyanka on Apr 25, 05:46 AM 2017
Sugtips - are you suggesting the first bet will be on one DS1. Second bet on DS1 and DS2 and so on.
Yes exactly, for example if we lost 2nd bet, then 3rd bet will be on ds1, ds2 and ds3
Betting that way from 1 ds till 5 ds it s not a good idea from my point of view,
progression can go very HIGH when bet on 5 Ds. One can be lucky for long and
not hit the order Ds 1,2,3.4,5, 6 but random can produce any order from time
to time. Not for me.....
All interesting stuff
I like double street systems
I used to play 3 DS at a time as an EC. I couldn't never win consistently.