WOF! Wheel of fortune: May this become a legendary system!
This is for live-wheels only! The main idea is that numbers always hit in clusters on the wheel. Atleast numbers hit in clusters so often that a workable system can be used to take advantage of this phenomenon! Furthermore, the progression is perfect, and the betselection is perfect! No difficult tracking of waiting time is needed! This is 10 numbers bet.
Procedure: Bet the 5 neighbours on each side of the current number hit on the wheel (2x5 Sectors). (Use that function all live roulette-tables have to bet a sector of 5 on the wheel!)
Progression: First do 3 spins, then double, after that double bets after each 2 losses in a row.
9/10 Games won
First tests was played with 1u bets
Wingoal +100u, stoploss -300u
Another 9/10 :thumbsup:
18/20 Games won
A 8/10.
26/30 Games won (And that's a 87% winrate)
Aproximate calculation of wins/losses
losses: 4*300= -1200
wins: 26*100= +2600
Total= +1400u
A more flexible bet is needed. (had a real bad session now!) so im thinking, 1-2 spins of the same number then change the trigger. I'll see if this works better...
OK Now, the trigger and progression has been changed (optimized) as far as it goes:
Progression: D'Alembert-progression (+1/-1)
Wingoal & Stoploss the same (+100/-300) played with 1u bets
Trigger: Same numbers are played only for 3 spins (ONE 10 numbers cycle!), then change trigger.
4/4 Games won
Test5. played with the new progression & rules
Reddwarf's wise words were to not waste a lifetime testing random systems. Ignatus, you need to move to Non-Random mate!
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 20, 09:06 AM 2017
Reddwarf's wise words were to not waste a lifetime testing random systems. Ignatus, you need to move to Non-Random mate!
I have not the tools, the knowledge or math-skill to do advanced testing,...guess that's your job falkor (if you are able to explain what you're doing in a proper way??)..
All i know is that numbers hit in clusters on the wheel, and this is one attempt to attack that "flaw" in roulette (if you can call it that??)...all my wheel-based systems evolve around this phenomenon...Hotzone, General Cluster, etc..
9/10 Games won (with the new progression & trigger) 8)
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 20, 09:29 AM 2017
(if you are able to explain what you're doing in a proper way??)..
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13/14 Games won 8)
Perhaps the new trigger and progression needs to be mentioned and clarified again?
The trigger and progression has been changed (optimized) as far as it goes:
Progression: D'Alembert-progression (+1/-1) +1u for each loss, -1u for each win, until reached a new high, (then reset to 1u).
Wingoal & Stoploss the same (+100/-300) played with 1u bets
Trigger: Same numbers are played only for 3 spins (ONE 10 numbers cycle!), then change trigger. THAT IS "change trigger" bet the new current number hit (and it's 5 neighbours) 5 numbers on each side AFTER 3 spins!
Tweak no.2; How to turn a losing session into a winning session
Progression: +1u AFTER 2 spins. 11223344556677... etc. WHEN WIN Go back 1-2 steps, for an example you win betting 7u, now you go back to 6u. (AND reset to 1u after reaching a new high).
Trigger: The current number's hit 5 neighbours ARE BET FOR ONLY 1 spin. Then change bets into the new number hit-- (and it's new 5 neighbours)..
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 20, 10:43 PM 2017
Tweak no.2; How to turn a losing session into a winning session
Progression: +1u AFTER 2 spins. 11223344556677... etc. WHEN WIN Go back 1-2 steps, for an example you win betting 7u, now you go back to 6u. (AND reset to 1u after reaching a new high).
Trigger: The current number's hit 5 neighbours ARE BET FOR ONLY 1 spin. Then change bets into the new number hit-- (and it's new 5 neighbours)..
I have left hope after loses in WOF version 1 & ver 2, but today after testing it with bm live spins, I made +688 profit on first session. Good work Ignatus, keep it up, I will try more soon.
I have played like this:
starting br 100
bet unit 1
11 numbers played every time, last number + 5 numbers of its both sides (neighbors)
new trigger: last number, I mean change bet number every spin
prog: 11223344556677.. (never went to 7)
on win: went back to 1 level if on 4 went to 3, if on 5 went to 4
on lost: followed the prog seq 11223344556677..
Thanks: To God 1000 times, To Ignatus 500 times, To RF.cc 100 times :)
best regards,
SugTips
Yes, thanks! :) i had my bad runs too.. But still more testing is needed! This is more of an experiment so far!
two more winning sessions at bmc, total profit is +356 of combined 2 sessions. :smile:
but I have made it very quickly within 50 spins. even I have skipped some spins and then restarted,
using my same formula from my last post in this thread, 11 numbers bet every time with last number spun, but starting BR was 350u.
thank you Ignatus
Ignatus, what's the point of testing a few spins? It's nowhere near enough for conclusive results. Repeat the test again and you'll get different results each time
Quote from: Steve on Apr 22, 05:37 AM 2017
Ignatus, what's the point of testing a few spins? It's nowhere near enough for conclusive results. Repeat the test again and you'll get different results each time
Wow, Steve! ;D Well, my original idea when i deposited money at Eurogrand was to play this system on the live wheels, but the crooks had raised the minimum bet to 20SEK, i thought i could play with 1SEK bet (that i could do before), i only deposited 200SEK, that's why. So, i had to play something simple on RNG. Bad choise maybe, yes...
I like to play on minimum stakes, but i don't know where to find any such live-roulette?? minimum is 1$ or 1â,¬ at most casinos, right?
Anyway, i guess you're right, i should continue with testing this one? i had one or two bad runs, so i gave up, i don't know how to tweak it further...any ideas are welcome.
Ok I'm just saying there's only a point to testing if you have enough data. The only other advice is focus on a reason why bet selection might change odds
OK did one test, i don't really know about BR needed, or stoploss. But i guess BR needed should be minimum 300u, i raised the wingoal to 200u.
And why should i do all the testings?? Thanks goes to Sugtips..
OK. Thanks Steve for your concern, (i'll continue testing!)...and thanks Sugtips for believing in me.
so far, 5/5 Games won With the new rules and progression (Tweak no.2)
What i noticed more when playing is that a larger BR is needed; So, minimum bankroll IS now 500u
Hello ignatus.
Im just checking what the total progression cost ? 11223344556677
I make the br needed to see it out is £560
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 22, 09:49 AM 2017
OK. Thanks Steve for your concern, (i'll continue testing!)...and thanks Sugtips for believing in me.
so far, 5/5 Games won With the new rules and progression (Tweak no.2)
What i noticed more when playing is that a larger BR is needed; So, minimum bankroll IS now 500u
Thank you Ignatus Sir,
I will try out all of your system and find out 2-3 better bet selections and progression from it.
For WOF Tweak 2, around 350u BR is ok for me till now. but you are right 500u is good, just in case if had bad run in start of session.
Thanks sugtips, :)
All im saying is the little feedback i get is my inspiration, and if it wasn't for this forum and you guys i would never continue with my roulette interest...so therefore i share everything i can. All thanks to you!
Now, i saw an old post, a 6 numbers negative progression invented by winkel, posted by Kattila. I think it's the best negative progression there is, because it can survive longer than most negative progressions. It's a prolongded fibonacci. so here it goes;
Tweak no.3
winkels prolonged fibonacci (adapted to 10 numbers)
1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 5 5 5 8 8 8 13 13 13 21 21 21...and so on- WHEN win, stay (and contine) on the same level in the progression-line (if not reached a new high). For an example you win betting 5u, but still not reached a new high, then you start over with 5u again, betting 5 5 5 ...and so on. The way i use to play it, if hit on let's say 5u, but you're ALMOST reached a new high, i use to go one step back, (betting 3u)...
I played this progression and won 8/10. (Not a revolutionary result?). since stoploss played was -350u (sugtips advice) and wingoal +100u, it was a almost breakeven
calculating wins/losses
losses: 2*350u= -700u
wins: 8*100= +800u
Total= +100
So, i don't want to waste your time or give you false hopes, that was a fair stats for this one, i believe.
Hello Ignatus
Its bit dangerous when we tank and extend progession and bankroll to try and miss a negative run, then when we do hit that rogue wave we are well and truely sunk life boats an all.
If you tried to maybe narrow down the idea by isolating rotor speeds and wheel direction to try an find the most stable target timings possibly.
I'll do more testings with this one,...
First LIVE-session played @Fairway +180u, (a very short session)
played with progression 11223344.. etc (and back 1 step when win) -change bets for each spin, to the newest number and it's 5x2 neighbours.
Everything of yours tanks