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Title: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 05:41 PM 2017
I had obtained edge a while back - but just didn't understand the forces that were at work. Now I understand exactly how the HG works - in 2 different ways, actually! The shocking truth is that it's so simple. Without being exceptionally careful how one writes hints and tips, the game could be given away just like that! So I, myself, need to start exercising extreme caution - otherwise I might give away the HG with only a couple of sentences - if that.  :ooh: Scary stuff...  :-X
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 05:47 PM 2017
Well RG wont have to put with your nonsense anymore  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 06:12 PM 2017
The strange thing about it is that my sworn brother also figured out how the HG worked the night before I did - though not quite at the same depth as how I understand it. And I would never have figured it out without the combined help of 5 other people, including my brother (Dilshod):
--Priyanka
--Reddwarf
--Dilshod / donik7777
--Lohnro
--Gizmotron

Thanks guys!  :thumbsup:

I reckon the HG was first discovered by Dyksexlic around 2009/2010 who helped rrbb/reddwarf discover it by 2012. Reddwarf had a number of students it seems, including Priyanka, 3Nine, possibly praline and a handful of others. Priyanka was in possession of the HG by 2013. I'm not sure how many others know it besides the top 3 in the above list - it wouldn't surprise me if there were around 10 people using it right now.

What would be really nice to find out is if Victor or Manrique knew the HG, as well as their connection with Dyksexlic, if any?

BTW, Dyksexlic is meant to be the undisputed master at using the HG!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 06:25 PM 2017
Check this out... this is timeless... it has Dyksexlic and reddwarf both in the same topic!  :love:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2886.0

The top 2 greatest minds in the history of Roulette! And I think we can safely add Priyanka to that list in 3rd place.

Who takes the 4th and 5th place? I'm probably way down in 10th position...  :xd:

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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 07:09 PM 2017
Since I am such an honest and decent guy I have decided to give away the HG free of charge - but you are required to read a few PDF documents first. No, I am not going to give you any maths articles to read or the same 2009 thesis about pigeonhole principle that Dyksexlic studied from...
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: willtherock on Apr 24, 07:11 PM 2017
I'll read any PDF you send.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 07:14 PM 2017
Hahahahaahhaahha

:twisted:

You are a disgusting scam artist
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 07:21 PM 2017
Why don't I buy you a nice shovel

This way you can continue digging your own holes

Spare us! Mr. Bullshit.

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« on: December 08, 2015, 12:41:24 PM »
From my last 2 tests and through inspiration from 2 topics (Basics, Random thoughts) I've utilized the left side of my brain to it's full potential in trying to understand how to beat this game of Roulette; using 100% of my brain power I present to to you my new system called The Millionaire's System - it could literally make you one overnight! I'm already several grands in profit just from 1 game!  :love:

Stay tuned whilst I go through another thought experiment on how to proceed with this disclosure! If you are my friend then please make it known now - I already know who most of my enemies are.

Falkor's friends list
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Falkor's enemies
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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 07:28 PM 2017
I hope the one world government bildebergs consult with the 7 men above them to ban your IP address from the internets.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 07:32 PM 2017
OK, so let's begin... the subject is Vernacular Architecture. Who has visited the Weald and Downland museum in England?
link:://:.wealddown.co.uk/buildings/north-cray/

(link:://:.wealddown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/North-Cray-Feb-2015-DSC02495.jpg)

The above building was transferred from near where I live in Southeast London to the museum in 1965-1975.

Quite a lot is known about the earliest medieval peasant houses in Britain, where poor people struggled to survive to makes ends meet... "Hall Houses" featured an open hall with an indoor hearth or fire place, so these poorest of folk died young from in-hailing all those poisonous fumes - not to mention having a lack of money!

(link:s://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Grundriss_Plan_form_Simple_hall_family.svg/645px-Grundriss_Plan_form_Simple_hall_family.svg.png)

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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 07:34 PM 2017
Your tactics are failing

You do this once a year

You can ignore me

But the smart ones see through you
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 07:38 PM 2017
Now, when it comes to understanding Vernacular architecture of the previous era - virtually nothing is known - about the Saxon House! On the other hand the preceding Roman era is almost as well documented as the Medieval era:

Roman House > Saxon House > Medieval House

link:s://:.amazon.co.uk/Roman-House-Britain-Dominic-Perring/dp/0415488788/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493077017&sr=8-1
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 07:39 PM 2017
You are a sick pup
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 07:48 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 07:09 PM 2017
Since I am such an honest and decent guy

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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 07:49 PM 2017
So the reason historians know so little about the Saxon House is because approx. 300 years of our calendar never existed:

According to a book by Emmet Scott, the Catholic Church in collaboration with the Persian/Islamic world, under Otto III, introduced a new AD calendar system and then created 300 years of fake history that never existed then had a team work frantically to forge medieval documents in support of the phantom existence of a dynasty of Carolingian kings - as well as Mohammed, many of the Islamic caliphs and other kings of Europe - that came before the Ottonians. Archaeologists find 10th century layers directly above 7th century layers. Here is a reconstruction of the 7th Century - after the removal of 300 years of "Phantom time" and fake ruling kings between the 7th and 10th centuries - allowing for adjustments of attested kings that are known to have left their historical mark. Many of the fake king lists (both European and Middle Eastern) were based on prior existing kings whose names and events were used as "types" for the fakes:

(link:s://s30.postimg.org/lxhl0l78h/kings.jpg)

The 3 PDFs I would like everyone to read is by the undisputed expert on what little is known about the Saxon House:

(link:://iconbug.com/data/5b/48/52ff0e80b07d28b590bbc4b30befde52.png)2000 Gardiner - Vernacular Buildings.pdf (link:://:.FlatEarthSociety/uploads/2000%20Gardiner%20-%20Vernacular%20Buildings.pdf)
(link:://iconbug.com/data/5b/48/52ff0e80b07d28b590bbc4b30befde52.png)2012 Gardiner - Early Medieval Tradition.pdf (link:://:.FlatEarthSociety/uploads/2012%20Gardiner%20-%20Early%20Medieval%20Tradition.pdf)
(link:://iconbug.com/data/5b/48/52ff0e80b07d28b590bbc4b30befde52.png)2014 Gardiner - Develop peasant.pdf (link:://"link:://:.FlatEarthSociety/uploads/2014%20Gardiner%20-%20Develop%20peasant.pdf)
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 07:57 PM 2017
OK, so once you've taken all that in then you are ready to understand how the HG works...

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You see this mock-up of a Saxon House during construction? Well, imagine all the foundation posts are 8 random numbers... you cannot predict the 8 numbers - but you can predict the structure of the roof!

So that's it, folks... surprisingly simple... that's how the HG works!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 08:00 PM 2017
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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Malvador on Apr 24, 08:06 PM 2017
Falkor, I'm so happy to hear that you have finally done it... Congrats...
Any hints or tips to guide a keen soul in the right direction... I thought I had it a week back but I got lost in random again..
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 08:10 PM 2017
Yes

Two years ago also Malvador. Quite fascinating

How does one keep up

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« on: December 08, 2015, 12:41:24 PM »
From my last 2 tests and through inspiration from 2 topics (Basics, Random thoughts) I've utilized the left side of my brain to it's full potential in trying to understand how to beat this game of Roulette; using 100% of my brain power I present to to you my new system called The Millionaire's System - it could literally make you one overnight! I'm already several grands in profit just from 1 game!  :love:

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: stringbeanpc on Apr 24, 08:11 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 07:57 PM 2017

Well, imagine all the foundation posts are 8 random numbers... you cannot predict the 8 numbers - but you can predict the structure of the roof!

So that's it, folks... surprisingly simple... that's how the HG works!  :thumbsup:

The structure of the Roof is based upon 8 random numbers ? (do you mean to expect a repeat in 8 spins ?)

or are you referring to 8 separate categories ?
RLO
RLE
BLO
BLE
RHO
RHE
BHO
BHE

or something else altogether ?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 08:15 PM 2017
Quote from: Malvador on Apr 24, 08:06 PM 2017
Falkor, I'm so happy to hear that you have finally done it... Congrats...
Any hints or tips to guide a keen soul in the right direction... I thought I had it a week back but I got lost in random again..
First transform roulette into a 72 number game and then use the 36 numbers to bet for the 72 or vice versa... simple!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 08:16 PM 2017
Quote from: stringbeanpc on Apr 24, 08:11 PM 2017
The structure of the Roof is based upon 8 random numbers ? (do you mean to expect a repeat in 8 spins ?)

or are you referring to 8 separate categories ?
RLO
RLE
BLO
BLE
RHO
RHE
BHO
BHE

or something else altogether ?
Nope... something else... sorry, can't be more explicit than the T-O-P!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: stringbeanpc on Apr 24, 08:23 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 08:15 PM 2017
First transform roulette into a 72 number game and then use the 36 numbers to bet for the 72 or vice versa... simple!

Is this related to a chart Victor (VLS) posted a few years ago ?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 08:26 PM 2017
Quote from: stringbeanpc on Apr 24, 08:23 PM 2017
Is this related to a chart Victor (VLS) posted a few years ago ?
Can't be... I've never read his posts - only know of the man.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Malvador on Apr 24, 08:26 PM 2017
Tha K you for your reply falkor, I'm buzzing my tits off for you... Lol I so badly want to find it...

Is it to do with cycles? Or is that why it works?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: stringbeanpc on Apr 24, 08:31 PM 2017
Guess I will have to wait for more hints.

Regarding VdW I have figured out how to win on (404+32=436) out of the 512 combinations, yes about 85%
Falkor, does this figure agree with your research ?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 08:36 PM 2017
Quote from: Malvador on Apr 24, 08:26 PM 2017
Tha K you for your reply falkor, I'm buzzing my tits off for you... Lol I so badly want to find it...

Is it to do with cycles? Or is that why it works?
Yeah, cycles are needed - but more so for the other HG method based on "parallel universes" - save for another time?

Cycles and other Non-Random methods provide a solid framework to such structures - so that they do not get blown away by the law of large numbers.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 08:37 PM 2017
You guys aren't seriously falling for this I hope

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 08:39 PM 2017
Quote from: stringbeanpc on Apr 24, 08:31 PM 2017
Guess I will have to wait for more hints.

Regarding VdW I have figured out how to win on (404+32=436) out of the 512 combinations, yes about 85%
Falkor, does this figure agree with your research ?
I doubt if I could do that well... will give it a try and see... Is your method based on exploiting the "strong" or the "weak" structure? Dyksexlic was said to have cracked the strong structure, believe it or not... I believe he could have used the Erdos Non-Random method? I can only work with "weak" structures, for now.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 08:44 PM 2017
9. No "baiting", which is where you brag about how great your system is, but you don't share anything except perhaps obscure details that lead people along. The forum is a place for open sharing. If you "bait" people, expect to be banned.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 08:50 PM 2017
This is not baiting, you fool, this is high level discussion about the HG that I've just revealed to you in plain site!

Quote from: Priyanka on Sep 15, 08:52 PM 2015
Some may be aware of this question, some may not.
"How many elements of some structure must there be to guarantee that a particular property will hold?"

A bit complex to comprehend. British are always a bit complex to comprehend (My personal opinion). A british bloke called Ramsey is behind this question. Hmm! Not the one from the bolton family. The one from bolton family might be inspired by this old bloke to cut a structure from Theon into a piece and then fry it to see whether it will hold. Hang on, how is this question relevant to Roulette? Why am I interested in structures and properties.

Our relevance comes through a dutch bloke who followed Ramsey. His name is Van der Waerden. What he believed is slightly complex. To make it too simplistic, we can restate it by saying

“in 9 spins of roulette yielding black and red, there will be one arithmetic progression of 3 integers holding the same colour”

Let me explain the scientific term here first before proceeding further. The term is “arithmetic progression”. It is nothing but a sequence of numbers where the difference between consecutive terms is constant.

1,2,3,… is an arithmetic progression
1,3,5,7… is an arithmetic progression
1,4,7,10.. is an arithmetic progression
2,6,10, 14… is an arithmetic progression

Now coming back, lets take a set of 9 spins.
RBR BRR RBB
123  456  789

Lets check whether what the dutch said was true. See the arithmetic sequence of spins 1,3 and 5 â€" I get RRR. There are 512 combinations that can happen, but none of them will fail to have an arithmetic progression of 3 integers holding same colour. Interesting isn’t it!

Now look at some boring boasting of a session
link:://youtu.be/AIvAeaHzKVY (link:://youtu.be/AIvAeaHzKVY)
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: stringbeanpc on Apr 24, 08:59 PM 2017
RouletteGhost,

My apologies if my post was interpreted to be bait, I was not trying to "bait" anyone, just asking Falkor for confirmation that my VdW statistics matched his?

From what I see an even chance can either chop RB RB RB RB or have a double RBR RBB.

You should win   32 sets by following the chop
You should win 404 sets by following the most recent side to have a double.

Bet a maximum of 2 times within a set, if there is a deadlock treat this set as a loss.

Keep in mind this is to win the set ( 436 of 512 ) this way, and you may have 2 losses within that set.

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 08:39 PM 2017
I doubt if I could do that well... will give it a try and see... Is your method based on exploiting the "strong" or the "weak" structure? Dyksexlic was said to have cracked the strong structure, believe it or not... I believe he could have used the Erdos Non-Random method? I can only work with "weak" structures, for now.

I have no idea what you are talking about ?

Please provide links to these posts by dyksexlic (weak/strong structure huh ??)  and the Erdos Non-Random method.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 09:05 PM 2017
Was directed at falkor

This is straight nonsense

Subscription fees to talk about the holy grail incoming on falkors new forum. Beware
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 24, 09:51 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 08:50 PM 2017
This is not baiting, you fool, this is high level discussion about the HG that I've just revealed to you in plain site!

Gilius-Falkor,
That should be plain "sight."
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 24, 11:15 PM 2017
Stealing from ignatus

If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough

This is your theater and you are putting on a sick show

Sick and tired of reading this day after day. Enough is enough

You are ridiculous.

Explain it like a human being or stay silent and stop dragging people along

You are either A)intentionally misleading people or B) crazy.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 01:57 AM 2017
Wait!

During this brief intermission, in addition to old english homebuilding designs, i would like everybody to go read my excellent "Reality Check" thread and then come back here for more clues on how to find the Unobtanium metal that is needed to structure the Holy Grail. 
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Priyanka on Apr 25, 02:04 AM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 01:57 AM 2017Unobtanium metal that is needed to structure the Holy Grail
Lol. I think this topic's right place is the humour section.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 25, 03:50 AM 2017
Quote from: Priyanka on Apr 25, 02:04 AM 2017
Lol. I think this topic's right place is the humour section.
couldn't believe how many more replies been posted since last night.
Priy  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nowun on Apr 25, 04:13 AM 2017
The only thing I come here for now is to read the humour and answer the occasional question.

falkor2k15, if you have a HG, go make money. 

Roulette would have to be one of the most boring games to play, the only exhilarating part is winning, but even that can get boring after a while.

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Priyanka on Apr 25, 04:20 AM 2017
On a slightly different note, nowun do you still do horse racing?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nowun on Apr 25, 04:23 AM 2017
Quote from: Priyanka on Apr 25, 04:20 AM 2017
On a slightly different note, nowun do you still do horse racing?

Not much anymore Priyanka, just a few short sessions of Roulette most days.  Sometimes only 3 or 4 spins.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 05:00 AM 2017
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 24, 09:51 PM 2017
Gilius-Falkor,
That should be plain "sight."
Plane sight - since 911! ;) Here is plain on this Roulette "site".
link:://:.911inplanesite.com/
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 05:21 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 08:50 PM 2017This is not baiting, you fool, this is high level discussion about the HG that I've just revealed to you in plain site!

Falkor, I think it is...as in rule 9

9. No "baiting", which is where you brag about how great your system is, but you don't share anything except perhaps obscure details that lead people along. The forum is a place for open sharing. If you "bait" people, expect to be banned.

Saxon houses and bullshit baiting :o
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 05:33 AM 2017
Apologies if it comes across that way, Turner... what analogy should I have used instead to try to get people to understand the HG better? Just because I am misunderstood I get accused of baiting... same thing happens when I tell people 9/11 is an inside job... they think I am leading them on when I suggest they watch an episode of the Simpsons or TMNT.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 06:02 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 05:33 AM 2017
Apologies if it comes across that way, Turner... what analogy should I have used instead to try to get people to understand the HG better? Just because I am misunderstood I get accused of baiting... same thing happens when I tell people 9/11 is an inside job... they think I am leading them on when I suggest they watch an episode of the Simpsons or TMNT.

You know what, I dont think you are, but it winds people up for sure

I like you for what thats worth, but its like listening to 6 degrees of seperation and you start on the 3rd one. I need the first 2 to be involved or else it looks fkin nuts
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 06:40 AM 2017
Is this a roulette forum or a never ended 911 conspiracy forum?

Shut up already enough!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 07:11 AM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 06:40 AM 2017
Is this a roulette forum or a never ended 911 conspiracy forum?

Shut up already enough!
When you do eventually find the HG and it resembles what's being discussed here are you going to simply apologize to me or will you:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib89NN8BdZI

But who is going to apologize to Priyanka for accusing him of baiting and hacking??? What's worse: baiting the HG to point of spoon-feeding it or tipping people off and receiving endless abuse in the process? Who are the crazy people here really? And who should be the ones to get penalized?

When you do find out about Priyanka's genuine and good intentions then, by rights, you should lick his feet - no less! Agree???

Regardless of how it comes across and whether ppl like us or not, this is not BS baiting... this is by far the best information ever posted on the entire forum in the past 7 years. Ignore the 1,000 other topics with random systems that don't work - but please do not devalue this one! Allow me to ask a simple question... What are the "structures" here, guys??? And how do you bet them?

Quote from: Priyanka on Sep 15, 08:52 PM 2015
Some may be aware of this question, some may not.
"How many elements of some structure must there be to guarantee that a particular property will hold?"

A bit complex to comprehend. British are always a bit complex to comprehend (My personal opinion). A british bloke called Ramsey is behind this question. Hmm! Not the one from the bolton family. The one from bolton family might be inspired by this old bloke to cut a structure from Theon into a piece and then fry it to see whether it will hold. Hang on, how is this question relevant to Roulette? Why am I interested in structures and properties.

Our relevance comes through a dutch bloke who followed Ramsey. His name is Van der Waerden. What he believed is slightly complex. To make it too simplistic, we can restate it by saying

“in 9 spins of roulette yielding black and red, there will be one arithmetic progression of 3 integers holding the same colour”

Let me explain the scientific term here first before proceeding further. The term is “arithmetic progression”. It is nothing but a sequence of numbers where the difference between consecutive terms is constant.

1,2,3,… is an arithmetic progression
1,3,5,7… is an arithmetic progression
1,4,7,10.. is an arithmetic progression
2,6,10, 14… is an arithmetic progression

Now coming back, lets take a set of 9 spins.
RBR BRR RBB
123  456  789

Lets check whether what the dutch said was true. See the arithmetic sequence of spins 1,3 and 5 â€" I get RRR. There are 512 combinations that can happen, but none of them will fail to have an arithmetic progression of 3 integers holding same colour. Interesting isn’t it!

Now look at some boring boasting of a session
link:://youtu.be/AIvAeaHzKVY (link:://youtu.be/AIvAeaHzKVY)
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 07:18 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 07:11 AM 2017
When you do eventually find the HG and it resembles what's being discussed here are you going to simply apologize to me or will you:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib89NN8BdZI

But who is going to apologize to Priyanka for accusing him of baiting and hacking??? What's worse: baiting the HG to point of spoon-feeding it or tipping people off and receiving endless abuse in the process? Who are the crazy people here really? And who should be the ones to get penalized?

When you do find out about Priyanka's genuine and good intentions then, by rights, you should lick his feet - no less! Agree???

Regardless of how it comes across and whether ppl like us or not, this is not BS baiting... this is by far the best information ever posted on the entire forum in the past 7 years. Ignore the 1,000 other topics with random systems that don't work - but please do not devalue this one! Allow me to ask a simple question... What are the "structures" here, guys??? And how do you bet them?

You have this sick delusional view that priyanka is on your side

I suggest you take a step back for a bit

You are either trying to mislead and scam people for own self enjoyment or......crazy

Please stop
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 07:31 AM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 07:18 AM 2017
You have this sick delusional view that priyanka is on your side

I suggest you take a step back for a bit

You are either trying to mislead and scam people for own self enjoyment or......crazy

Please stop
You are making assumptions again like you do everyday. Priyanka is not my friend; our relationship is only that his intentions are good here and so are mine. These topics about the HG, 911 and Flat Earth are not to try and get me banned - they are to help you guys see through the deceptions - namely conspiracies, gambler's fallacy and other attempts by the rich to enslave you all. And there is nothing "cruel" happening here except your abuse that you lack total awareness of - the same awareness that parents lack when disciplining their children.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 07:35 AM 2017
Whether or not people here believe in certain conspiracies does not mean we want you posting it everyday

I myself research conspiracies

We don't need you to rehash it everyday

The best thing would be for you to be banned

Enough is enough

You post about things and try to link it to roulette

It's not working
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: maestro on Apr 25, 07:41 AM 2017
 parents lack when disciplining their children


can you please explain what are my mistakes and lack<disciplining> as a parent..
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 07:42 AM 2017
Is this the holy grail you figured out before Christmas a few years ago, or the millionaires system?

You were banned for the Christmas holy grail

Then you came back under this name

I can link you to both threads where you claimed you got the holy grail and listed an enemy list

Because you are sick. A sick person.

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 07:45 AM 2017
How's your new forum coming along?

Scam artist

Does it look like this?

(link:://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk1e2fEJTq1qgq3xn.gif)

I only target people that deserve it. It's been awhile

You make the defunct gambling forums website look sane
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 08:13 AM 2017
My forum is coming along sweet, Mr. Bitter!

maestro: can discuss via pm or something?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 08:15 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 08:13 AM 2017


maestro: can discuss via pm or something?

For the love of god yes please!!

Mr bitter? I'm calling this for what it is. You can handle it
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: maestro on Apr 25, 08:15 AM 2017
why pm...
write it here so everyone can see it..i dont have problem with this :question: :question:
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 08:17 AM 2017
Quote from: maestro on Apr 25, 08:15 AM 2017
why pm...
write it here so everyone can see it..i dont have problem with this :question: :question:

Because he doesn't want to give it away!

He's been hiding it since Christmas several years ago!

This is a yearly thing!

Must be comfy in mums basement
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 08:22 AM 2017
Quote from: maestro on Apr 25, 08:15 AM 2017
why pm...
write it here so everyone can see it..i dont have problem with this :question: :question:
This topic is about discussing the HG. The last relevant question was related to structures and how to bet them; that's where we ought pick up this topic from... There's a separate topic for more detailed discussion on human behaviour and why you guys feel the way you do.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Scarface on Apr 25, 08:22 AM 2017
If a Holy Grail exists, it wouldn't be just one system that works.  There would probably be hundreds of different ways it would work.

It's kind of like saying there is only one way of making an even chance bet.  Some will say 3 ways (r/b, o/e, h/l).  Actually, there are hundreds of different even chance bets...maybe thousands. 

I doubt you have a grail, but if you'd like to share your system with a straightforward easy to follow method, then it can be discussed and tested...maybe even improved upon.  But talking about vague concepts like vdw, non random, pigeon hole, etc just confuses people....especially when none of these concepts has been shown to improve the long term edge at all. 
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: maestro on Apr 25, 08:30 AM 2017
so it is OK to post Saxon whatever shittty house is but not telling what i lack as a parent
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 08:33 AM 2017
Well said, Scarface! That's the problem: I haven't used the grail to develop any particular system yet. There are indeed hundreds of different ways it would work.

QuoteIt's kind of like saying there is only one way of making an even chance bet.  Some will say 3 ways (r/b, o/e, h/l).  Actually, there are hundreds of different even chance bets...maybe thousands.
And when that even chance bet happens to be event-based like the 50/50 results we get from VdW then what does that EC-like bet resemble in the context of this topic...?

I disagree: I don't find Non-Random vague - I find it rather specific in what it can tell us about the FACTS that exists when playing Roulette.

Quoteso it is OK to post Saxon whatever shittty house is but not telling what i lack as a parent
But that's the main analogy used here in describing the HG, so that people can understand it better. Mentioning other things in brief is only to add context. The lack of awareness part was pointed out so that people don't get the wrong end of the stick. This topic is what it is.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 08:35 AM 2017
Quote from: Scarface on Apr 25, 08:22 AM 2017


I doubt you have a grail, but if you'd like to share your system with a straightforward easy to follow method, then it can be discussed and tested...maybe even improved upon. 

Don't hold your breath

We are dealing with a sick individual with too much time on his hands who wants a following

This is rubbish and garbage

He posts about everything but roulette and it's fu cking annoying!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 25, 10:46 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 08:33 AM 2017

That's the problem: I haven't used the grail to develop any particular system yet. There are indeed hundreds of different ways it would work.


Gilius-Falkor,
Very interesting comment. I know this is kind of getting into semantics, but your idea of a "holy grail" then is more that of an "approach" than that of a system.

Conventionally speaking, when most people talk about a "holy grail,"  they usually refer to a specific bet selection system (one that is usually wedded to a corresponding money management system).

It is interesting that you, seemingly, use the HG term in a rather different  sense (at least that's how your highlighted comment above appears to me).
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 10:58 AM 2017
Yeah, there isn't just a single Non-Random system... it's based entirely around what approach one takes:
*fun
*profitable
*simple tracking
*complex tracking
*no tracking

That's why I created a website database and forum specifically for researching/discussing Non-Random because it's a very large area of study.

And I find the history of discovery more interesting than the grail itself. It's an interesting Journey... better if reddwarf and dyksexlic were still here to compliment Priyanka's words of wisdom.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 11:03 AM 2017
What delights me the most is not the grail - but the fact that some writings of reddwarf have been preserved by certain individuals who amazingly recognised the significance of his writings at a more cynical time than present. I hope Priyanka's writings also get preserved for many future generations. That's my own personal goal that I am committed to more than the grail. The grail is a celebration of the people who made it happen.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 12:45 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 11:03 AM 2017
The grail is a celebration of the people who made it happen.

I'm hoping to preserve the great words of Van der Waerden for posterity, having made the structure of the holy grail happen. 

It's tough to present solutions to a skeptical crowd.  For example, look how the "Shark Tank" skeptics treated this entrepreneur, not hardly even giving him a chance to explain his methods, and then laughing when given perfectly plausible answers. 

I would like to apologize on behalf of the uber skeptics here who have not treated you well. 

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 01:08 PM 2017
Yea

Support the guy that thinks there is a glass firmament around the planet, satellites are fake, and space doesn't exist

Who coincidentally posts "I found the holy grail" once a year

I'll pass on the gullible juice

I don't know whether to laugh or cry

Give me a break





Quote



« on: December 08, 2015, 12:41:24 PM »
From my last 2 tests and through inspiration from 2 topics (Basics, Random thoughts) I've utilized the left side of my brain to it's full potential in trying to understand how to beat this game of Roulette; using 100% of my brain power I present to to you my new system called The Millionaire's System - it could literally make you one overnight! I'm already several grands in profit just from 1 game!  :love:

Stay tuned whilst I go through another thought experiment on how to proceed with this disclosure! If you are my friend then please make it known now - I already know who most of my enemies are.

Falkor's friends list
orochi

Falkor's enemies
winkel
rouletteghost
priyanka
iggiv
Turner



Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 01:12 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 07:11 AM 2017
When you do find out about Priyanka's genuine and good intentions then, by rights, you should lick his feet - no less! Agree???

If and when we do find out your good intentions, and you actually do reveal a working version of your holy grail framework which can overcome double zeros (American wheel), as well as rigged tables like the one below, should we also, by rights, lick your feet? What i mean is do you have the right to have us lick your feet? 




Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 07:11 AM 2017
Regardless of how it comes across and whether ppl like us or not, this is not BS baiting... this is by far the best information ever posted on the entire forum in the past 7 years. Ignore the 1,000 other topics with random systems that don't work - but please do not devalue this one! Allow me to ask a simple question... What are the "structures" here, guys??? And how do you bet them?

One such structure is the Van der Waerden theorum which says that in 9 posts, there will always be three clues leading to the holy grail. 

But recently, you've suggested there are eight posts in the kind of structures you are looking at.   

There are also cycle structures, but the length of the cycle structure changes, depending how long it takes for a repeat to occur.  I don't see any of these as being eight elements exactly. 

Is there another structure you have discovered with eight elements? Or, have you modified Van der Waerden's structure to eight elements?

Of course, an element can be almost anything, not just spins. 

Are you looking at some interesting elements that have not yet been discussed here in the forum?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 01:17 PM 2017
Did you ever share the millionaires system with orochi?

Been waiting 2 years for that info
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 01:22 PM 2017
Fraud- person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 01:28 PM 2017
Might take me some time

But I'm going to try and find the Christmas thread from 3 years ago

So your new following can see you did this once before and got banned for misleading

I hope I can find that thread it's on the internet somewhere

Scam artist! Scam artist!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 01:39 PM 2017
3 years ago

Original forum name "Falkor" was banned

Quote

falkor
View Profile  Personal Message (Offline)
« Reply #611 on: December 18, 2014, 03:03:42 PM »
Quote (selected)
You an agent or something? You've still got till New Years Day to win a bit more from casinos before I announce this system as complete and chart 1 million spins. I know you would like this topic deleted, but others deserve opportunities to win too. You need to divvy up the dollar and stop being greedy! :)


Promised by New Year's Day

Never came

Thread link below so everyone can see how ridiculous

Have a good day scam artist! You sad delusional man!

Sorry people. Truth hurts

Link to three years ago:

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14976.600

Similar thread to this. People demanded the rules

He promised the rules by New Years

Still no need to apologize to falkor for me he is sick in the head and you aid him!

above thread was 45 pages. He gets off on a following

Thank me for warning you all! I'm not the enemy. He is!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 02:10 PM 2017
What ever happened to the forum name "Falkor" wasn't banned, was it?

Click "show posts"

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=profile;u=6850
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 02:17 PM 2017
Can we have a similar thread in 2018?

Fourth years a charm
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: MumboJumbo on Apr 25, 03:31 PM 2017
Think how much you can earn if you quit playing roulette. Your HG can be full of money.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 03:37 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 01:12 PM 2017
If and when we do find out your good intentions, and you actually do reveal a working version of your holy grail framework which can overcome double zeros (American wheel), as well as rigged tables like the one below, should we also, by rights, lick your feet? What i mean is do you have the right to have us lick your feet? 




One such structure is the Van der Waerden theorum which says that in 9 posts, there will always be three clues leading to the holy grail. 

But recently, you've suggested there are eight posts in the kind of structures you are looking at.   

There are also cycle structures, but the length of the cycle structure changes, depending how long it takes for a repeat to occur.  I don't see any of these as being eight elements exactly. 

Is there another structure you have discovered with eight elements? Or, have you modified Van der Waerden's structure to eight elements?

Of course, an element can be almost anything, not just spins. 

Are you looking at some interesting elements that have not yet been discussed here in the forum?
It doesn't have to be 8... the photo had 8 posts - use 9 posts for VdW. What are the structures and how to bet them?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 03:49 PM 2017
Here's a structure with 8 posts ground floor + first floor + top floor... how to bet the top floor?
(link:s://s11.postimg.org/m97y7hhar/8post.png)

Note: the top floor is bigger than the bottom floors like a wealden cottage with a jettied front:
(link:://:.listedpropertyinsurance.co.uk/photos/Jetty.jpg)
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 03:53 PM 2017
How should we bet the top floor here?

There's 9 posts in this one. Some have termite damage. How to bet?

(link:://activerain.com/image_store/uploads/1/3/9/6/0/ar132959732606931.jpg)
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 03:57 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 03:53 PM 2017
How should we bet the top floor here?

There's 9 posts in this one. Some have termite damage. How to bet?

(link:://activerain.com/image_store/uploads/1/3/9/6/0/ar132959732606931.jpg)
The design is too modern... I'm stumped!  :question:
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 03:58 PM 2017
This is how houses in the US look in my area.

If you can crack the code to linking them to roulette we have the HG
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 04:09 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 03:37 PM 2017
It doesn't have to be 8... the photo had 8 posts - use 9 posts for VdW. What are the structures and how to bet them?

So you're calling VdW a structure?

And you are implying there are other structures?

What are those other structures, and how do you propose to bet them?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 04:19 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 04:09 PM 2017
So you're calling VdW a structure?

And you are implying there are other structures?

What are those other structures, and how do you propose to bet them?
Nope - Priyanka told you what the structures were in VdW - itself not a structure per se.

Here's 8 unique numbers: 24285172
Here's an example of 2 structures based on them:
2,4,5,7 = ascending structure
8,5,2 = descending structure

Based on the above example, numbers 8,5,2 are random (like the rest of unique numbers) - but together as a group/event these three each have descending characteristics/properties since they are part of the descending structure.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 04:24 PM 2017
Another example on dozen cycles:

Top floor = CL3Order1, CL3Order3, CL3Order2...
Ground floor = 12...

Betting dozen 3 on the ground floor will bet for a repeat on all 3 parts of the top floor structure - like a net to catch all with one bet.


Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 04:29 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 04:19 PM 2017
Nope - Priyanka told you what the structures were in VdW - itself not a structure per se.

Here's 8 unique numbers: 24285172
Here's an example of 2 structures based on them:
2,4,5,7 = ascending structure
8,5,2 = descending structure

Based on the above example, numbers 8,5,2 are random (like the rest of unique numbers) - but together as a group/event these three each have descending characteristics/properties since they are part of the descending structure.

The original group of eight numbers weren't unique.  The two repeats three times. 

Certainly, there are eight spins.  Not all unique.

The ascending has four unique numbers in it, and the descending has three unique numbers in it. 

Are you calling the four number ascending group a structure?

What are all the structures possible in this example of eight numbers?

How would you propose to bet them?

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 04:30 PM 2017
My bad!  :-[ I tapped the keyboard too quickly without checking they were all unique... but at least you are on the ball!  :thumbsup:

With 8 numbers you can choose multiple structures based on asc/desc. I haven't researched a way of betting them yet, as I only discovered that Non-Random method recently, called Erdos.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 04:32 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 04:29 PM 2017


How would you propose to bet them?

Been waiting since October 2014 for that answer
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 04:43 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 04:19 PM 2017
Nope - Priyanka told you what the structures were in VdW - itself not a structure per se.

Here's 8 unique numbers: 24285172
Here's an example of 2 structures based on them:
2,4,5,7 = ascending structure
8,5,2 = descending structure

Based on the above example, numbers 8,5,2 are random (like the rest of unique numbers) - but together as a group/event these three each have descending characteristics/properties since they are part of the descending structure.

So there's VdW and it's "structures" that are well known to anyone who looked at Priyanka's Random Thoughts thread almost two years ago.

We used to call those structures algorithmic progressions. 

Are you bringing something new to the table in regards VdW algorithmic progressions or their arrangement?

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 04:48 PM 2017
That's for you to test... I've told you how the HG works in larger context, including for VdW by quoting Priyanka, etc.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 04:49 PM 2017
Give us some real play examples. How you would play at the table and bet provided the current conditions

Since you say no tracking is required

No funny talk

How ?

How to bet?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 04:52 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 04:48 PM 2017
That's for you to test... I've told you how the HG works in larger context, including for VdW by quoting Priyanka, etc.

By your own admission you have not told how it works.  You've said you are choosing your words carefully not to give anything up.   

"That's for you to test..." is vague. 

Test what?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 04:55 PM 2017
(link:://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/4645500/peter-snaps-his-neck-o.gif)

Hed be the worst teacher in history

Students would be doing homework telling their parents "mom and dad I don't want to goto school anymore, he doesn't tell us anything"
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 04:56 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 04:49 PM 2017
Give us some real play examples. How you would play at the table and bet provided the current conditions

Since you say no tracking is required

How to bet?
I haven't come up with any system yet... could be too repetitive and no fun without proper planning. There is a section on my forum to discuss how to create own master strategy/HG based on this approach of structures and properties.

I haven't figured out how to remove dependency for pen and paper tracking yet - but there's a section on my forum to also discuss that called "Simplifying the mechanical system"

I've given examples above how to bet - but you need some tracking to begin with till you can modify it accordingly.

So you start out with a system where you put the meat balls into the pot, one at a time, and each time adding a sprinkle of flour. Once you've matured the system you can add flour to all meatballs during preparation time - so when it comes to putting them in the pot there's no tracking of flour.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: bleep24 on Apr 25, 05:00 PM 2017
Me thinks the people wearing white coats are much needed here.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 05:02 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 04:52 PM 2017
By your own admission you have not told how it works.  You've said you are choosing your words carefully not to give anything up.   

"That's for you to test..." is vague. 

Test what?
I started out that way then I decided to give away the HG for free... so you have it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

Not sure what to test? Pick a non-random method first:
1. VdW
2. Friends
3. Erdos
4. PHP

Work within the limits and identify the structures, including which elements potentially contain properties relating to those structures. Play only ground floor with intention of predicting top floor or roof. That's how you exploit the structures and gain edge using this method.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 05:05 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 04:56 PM 2017
I haven't come up with any system yet... could be too repetitive and no fun without proper planning.

LOL. I will find your quote from 2014

In the thread I linked here "falkor" who was banned said the SAME thing

Another 45 page scam coming up with no system rules

Like I said. I'm not the enemy. This blabbering fool is the enemy

He gave this same answer in 2014. Almost word for word

Create a system with rules you sick puppy!!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 05:15 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 05:02 PM 2017
I started out that way then I decided to give away the HG for free... so you have it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

Not sure what to test? Pick a non-random method first:
1. VdW
2. Friends
3. Erdos
4. PHP

Work within the limits and identify the structures, including which elements potentially contain properties relating to those structures. Play only ground floor with intention of predicting top floor or roof. That's how you exploit the structures and gain edge using this method.

Ok toward the beginning of this thread you were going to watch carefully what you say so as not to slip and give it away.  Since then, you have given it away? Or, you are now saying that you are going to give it away (future tense)?

Not sure what to test?

My question was, what are you telling me to test?

By suggesting a list of things to test, are you saying that you have just given away the HG for free?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 05:23 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 05:15 PM 2017
Ok toward the beginning of this thread you were going to watch carefully what you say so as not to slip and give it away.  Since then, you have given it away? Or, you are now saying that you are going to give it away (future tense)?

Not sure what to test?

My question was, what are you telling me to test?

By suggesting a list of things to test, are you saying that you have just given away the HG for free?

No it's not free

Maybe I'm the only one piecing this together.

He creates a new forum days before making this thread

He is using it to funnel and sucker people to his website

Am I the only one getting this?

Wake up people he's a scammer!!

Creates own forum. Creates this thread. Hmmmmm
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 05:25 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 05:15 PM 2017
Ok toward the beginning of this thread you were going to watch carefully what you say so as not to slip and give it away.  Since then, you have given it away? Or, you are now saying that you are going to give it away (future tense)?

Not sure what to test?

My question was, what are you telling me to test?

By suggesting a list of things to test, are you saying that you have just given away the HG for free?
Yep - at first I didn't plan on giving it away - and was cautious with my choice of words; that was at very start of page 1... since then I decided to give away the HG for free from halfway down page 1 and haven't held back anything...

So now you know the HG approach as I know it through reddwarf and Priyanka...

I got many things to test myself. What you want to test will depend on what kind of system you would like to develop based on this approach. I would recommend joining my forum since that will give you ideas on which direction to take things... there are many...
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=kkdLV9I1RbQ
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 05:28 PM 2017
Fu*k it!

You want to fall for this guys scams year after year? Be my guest!!

You can easily click the link I posted in this thread

Sad!!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 05:43 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 05:02 PM 2017


Work within the limits and identify the structures, including which elements potentially contain properties relating to those structures. Play only ground floor with intention of predicting top floor or roof. That's how you exploit the structures and gain edge using this method.



Wtf

What method?!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 05:47 PM 2017
All onlookers : beware of scam

His website and forum were made in preparation of this thread

He is a cruel and unusual poster. See my link on this thread
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 06:01 PM 2017
Enough said

Don't shoot the messenger

This "ain't my first rodeo"

He is a bad member!

The answer to the pictures below is- it will never happen

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: NeverLast on Apr 25, 07:09 PM 2017
Ten years ago, roulette was my obsession, now playing sometimes just for fun but firstly BlackJack because with perfect play house have lower edge than on roulette and I always go for better edge. Now I'm playing holdem and betting on sport events primarly, because there is potential to find positive edge. I was traveling for the weekend, and played roulette for fun in casino of my hotel, some guy next to me played some random progression system and recall my memory about this forum and systems and HOLY GRAIL, etc, i didn't read this stuff for years... and ofcourse first topic holy grail, big LOL.
I gamble for more than 20 years now, I am not sure in anything, but I sure that on roulette Holy Grail does not exist. Kids in kindergarden know the fact---Game with negative edge, limited bankroll and limited maximal staking is unbeatable from mathematical perspective and that's it. Only way to win is unlimited bankroll, no limit staking and classical double progression for 1unit win.....and all that equals impossible in reality.
I can't believe, that some people actually believe that there is a METHOD.... yes there is a one and only method, like I said. No limit table, unlimited bankroll and progression for 1unit win.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 07:09 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 04:56 PM 2017I haven't come up with any system yet... could be too repetitive and no fun without proper planning. There is a section on my forum to discuss how to create own master strategy/HG based on this approach of structures and properties.

I haven't figured out how to remove dependency for pen and paper tracking yet - but there's a section on my forum to also discuss that called "Simplifying the mechanical system"

I've given examples above how to bet - but you need some tracking to begin with till you can modify it accordingly.

Then Falkor, if you dont have a working and tested system, then...

DONT MISLEAD PEOPLE BY BOLDLY CLAIMING YOU FINALLY FIGURED OUT THE HOLY GRAIL.

I checked your material and you do NOT have anything solid to form a working system. You have a whole lot of nothing and people are foolish to believe you. Perhaps they should read back the years of rubbish you have published. All the time you come out with the same kind of bullshit claims. And NONE of them have proven true. To say you are the boy who cried wolf is an understatement. Why should anyone believe you? Your latest thread is just more of the same bullshit.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 07:26 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 05:25 PM 2017
Yep - at first I didn't plan on giving it away - and was cautious with my choice of words; that was at very start of page 1... since then I decided to give away the HG for free from halfway down page 1 and haven't held back anything...

So now you know the HG approach as I know it through reddwarf and Priyanka...

I got many things to test myself. What you want to test will depend on what kind of system you would like to develop based on this approach. I would recommend joining my forum since that will give you ideas on which direction to take things... there are many...
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=kkdLV9I1RbQ

So at first you weren't going to list a number of concepts to test, and now that you've listed a number of concepts to test, you've given away the HG for free?

I didn't see cycles on that list, but would you like me to test that too?

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 07:27 PM 2017
Quote from: Steve on Apr 25, 07:09 PM 2017
Perhaps they should read back the years of rubbish you have published. All the time you come out with the same kind of bullshit claims. And NONE of them have proven true. To say you are the boy who cried wolf is an understatement. Why should anyone believe you? Your latest thread is just more of the same bullshit.

Exactly

Im not the bad guy. I'm just very direct and blunt

People need to know.

This happens once a year.

In 2014 this exact same thing happened.

Then again in 2015

Then 2016 was consumed by random thoughts

I'm surprised members still fall for it lol

My link to his 2014 comments are on page 5 of this thread
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 07:34 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 07:27 PM 2017I'm surprised members still fall for it lol

For varied reasons: Slow learners. Gullible. Can't recognize the same approach re-packaged to look like something different. And plain not very smart.

... and you wonder how the world got to be so screwed up ....

You can argue and reason with people until you're blue in the face. It will make little difference. It's no different trying to explain legitimate conspiracies to ignorant people. My advice is speak your mind, but dont waste much time on it. It will achieve very little.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 07:41 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 05:02 PM 2017
I started out that way then I decided to give away the HG for free... so you have it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

Not sure what to test? Pick a non-random method first:
1. VdW
2. Friends
3. Erdos
4. PHP

Work within the limits and identify the structures, including which elements potentially contain properties relating to those structures. Play only ground floor with intention of predicting top floor or roof. That's how you exploit the structures and gain edge using this method.

Ok now that we have a list of concepts to consider, let's talk more about you're vision for your new forum. 

Once i clarify what you mean by structure, can I test these various structures and post my results in your new forum?

For example, let's say I want to test Erdos stuctures. Can I open up a thread in the Erdos section and share my findings?

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 07:45 PM 2017
Quote from: bleep24 on Apr 25, 05:00 PM 2017
Me thinks the people wearing white coats are much needed here.

Lol! Yes
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 07:55 PM 2017
I think it's a great idea to take this rubbish to another forum. Take the flat Earth gibberish too. I have no doubt followers will still be walking in circles, working on the clues, years from now. But oh so close to figuring it all out (as usual).
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 08:04 PM 2017
It's a splendid idea

hopefully the door doesn't hit them in the ass on the way out!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 08:12 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 25, 05:02 PM 2017
I started out that way then I decided to give away the HG for free... so you have it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

Not sure what to test? Pick a non-random method first:
1. VdW
2. Friends
3. Erdos
4. PHP

Work within the limits and identify the structures, including which elements potentially contain properties relating to those structures. Play only ground floor with intention of predicting top floor or roof. That's how you exploit the structures and gain edge using this method.

Except for perhaps Erdos, Priyanka has expounded on these concepts at length for years, including cycles which is not mentioned.

So when you say it's coming direct from the horse's mouth, do you mean to say that Priyanka has revealed the HG for free already?

On the other hand, if you are bringing something new to the table, maybe you should get credit for it.

Is Erdos your idea? (I want to be sure to give the right credits).

On the other hand, if VdW was first mentioned by Priyanka, aren't you taking credit for something you haven't added any value to?

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 08:40 PM 2017
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 09:02 PM 2017
Falkor sometimes we use mistaken words by accident.  I would like to see you continue to contribute to this thread but maybe the title is too hot, too much of a bait and switch for some people.

So I might suggest having the title changed to,...well here's a couple alternate titles that could help keep you in this forum so you can ask Priyanka some more questions:

1) "I have finally understood what Priyanka was talking about."

2) "Here is a list of concepts I think you should study"

3) "Welcome to my new forum!"

But these are just opinions and maybe someone else has some better ideas.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 09:30 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 09:02 PM 2017Falkor sometimes we use mistaken words by accident

Years of weekly accidents is no accident. Falkor, Priyanka, John Legend, Charles Hampshire etc have never delivered anything of value. Just a wild goose chase. Rather than argue the points further, find out the hard way.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 09:32 PM 2017
I have no problems with john legend types

I like systems.

I enjoy roulette

It's fun

Falkor makes it not fun
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 09:34 PM 2017
RG I have no problem with systems. 99.99% of approaches lose, but so what. My problem is when people knowingly mislead other people. And the people following are clueless.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 09:35 PM 2017
Yea. Agree

Play a system and create a system realizing the house edge is still there

Falkor kills it
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 09:51 PM 2017
Then you have this homunculus who once a year claims holy grail yet never give a strategy of play or rules

And gives the same story "no system yet"

Attention seeker? Gets off on the following? To his followers: LOL!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Scarface on Apr 25, 10:01 PM 2017
I have a hunch that StI'll and Falknor are the same person.  Sound alot alike....could be wrong about this though.  Maybe Falknor does have a follower. 
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 10:03 PM 2017
FalkNOR  :xd:
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 10:06 PM 2017
Quote from: Scarface on Apr 25, 10:01 PM 2017Maybe Falknor does have a follower.

At one stage, even CEH (win3million) had followers. I think he still does. Every now and then there is a new "god of roulette" that people follow blindly. It goes on and on for many months or even years, and no winning system comes out of it.

All any new person needs to do is show some complex looking images with fancy sounding ideas, and some people will be hooked.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 10:19 PM 2017
QuoteFrom my last 2 tests and through inspiration from 2 topics (Basics, Random thoughts) I've utilized the left side of my brain to it's full potential in trying to understand how to beat this game of Roulette; using 100% of my brain power I present to to you my new system called The Millionaire's System - it could literally make you one overnight! I'm already several grands in profit just from 1 game!

I mean come on. Your claims go back years and follow the same patterns. If you used 100% of your brain, wouldnt you at least be able to understand simple logic to refute the bad logic from flat earthers?

But anyway, please tell us, what happened to your other HGs?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 10:26 PM 2017
Here: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16311.0

And you even did it again before this.

What the hell is wrong with you Falkor?

And what the hell is wrong with people who actually believe you?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 10:28 PM 2017
I've been saying this and showing these links

No one listens to me!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 10:33 PM 2017
RG thanks I appreciate it. Unfortunately I dont have time to keep up with everything happening here. Like any moderator I rely on members to keep me informed of problems. I agree with your assessment of Falkor. But again banning is not the answer.

If you are ever down my way, let me know and we'll catch up
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 25, 11:17 PM 2017
Quote from: Scarface on Apr 25, 10:01 PM 2017
I have a hunch that StI'll and Falknor are the same person.  Sound alot alike....could be wrong about this though.  Maybe Falknor does have a follower.

Well there's only three types of posters here:

1. Testers
2. Teasers
3. Tellers

Falkor has told me which concepts to test.  He wasn't going to tell which concepts to test at first, but then he did.   Once i sign up at his new forum, i am going to be the Erdo structure tester.  There will be other testers there, but i will be the main tester of the Erdo structures so that there will be an efficient division of labor.  Each of the testers will post their findings to the forum, and we will all share equally in the edge.   Falkor, our leader, already has the edge, but you can't blame him if he needs to see proof-of-work before he shares it openly.  Once the testers have proven they have worked as hard as he has worked on Priyanka's ideas, he will tell the tester where the edge is.   There are a few things that Falkor is still testing himself.  I'm not sure what those areas are, but i will be working on testing things he already knows has an edge.  I will not be testing anything that he is not sure about already. So it's a win win situation, kind of like Thomas Edison's laboratory.   Falkor will tell me what to test.  I will test it till i find an edge.  I will publish my edge.  Then Falkor will tell me what his edge was, besides the edge of the area he told me to test. . 
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 11:49 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 11:17 PM 2017Falkor, our leader, already has the edge, but you can't blame him if he needs to see proof-of-work before he shares it openly

You arent paying attention. Years of the same bullshit claims.



Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 11:17 PM 2017kind of like Thomas Edison's laboratory.   Falkor will tell me what to test.  I will test it till i find an edge.

(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/04/26/temp_304278.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/RvJV)

Still, you talk and think like Falkor. It's a good match. I actually wouldnt be surprised if you are the same person.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 11:56 PM 2017
Falkor is the "luck dragon" from "The Neverending Story".

The NEVER .. ENDING .. STORY.

Get it??
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:09 AM 2017
Sorry guys, I didn't mean to overstate the HG as being something it's not, so I guess I have misled people to some extent - but unintentionally. Apologies for that. At the moment it just remains an approach: as RD said we are looking for a cheap investment - and need to capture more wins or spins... sorry, I guess by paraphrasing the amazing RD I could sound like I am baiting again, and we all know what happens to baiters:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=2BGonopGo3k

I guess I'll lay low for a while or just discuss these contentious issues at my forum.. no danger of getting banned there.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 02:40 AM 2017
Falkor, don't play the victim. You are worse than a regular troll. You have some real problems.

I really hope people do their own due diligence and see what RG and I are talking about. Luckily for you, the people you target are gullible, naive and not very bright.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 05:07 AM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 07:41 PM 2017
Ok now that we have a list of concepts to consider, let's talk more about you're vision for your new forum. 

Once i clarify what you mean by structure, can I test these various structures and post my results in your new forum?

For example, let's say I want to test Erdos stuctures. Can I open up a thread in the Erdos section and share my findings?
Why not? That's exactly what I am trying to encourage... I don't want this info dying out with me.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 05:39 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 05:07 AM 2017
Why not? That's exactly what I am trying to encourage... I don't want this info dying out with me.

You can still come back here from time to time to ask Priyanka some more questions...or to paraphrase RD (not sure who that is). 

On the other hand, how does having your own forum increase the chances of preserving a legacy? 

If you die, and the website is not maintained with annual fees, it could be eaten up by the web. But if you put all your paraphrases here in this forum and you die, the forum will keep going as Steve keeps going, or sells the site to someone else. 

Likewise, let's say i test the Erdo structures until i find an edge and publish the edge in your forum.  Let's say i want my legacy to last as long as possible.  Which forum has the best chance of lasting the longest?

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 05:52 AM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 25, 08:12 PM 2017
Except for perhaps Erdos, Priyanka has expounded on these concepts at length for years, including cycles which is not mentioned.

So when you say it's coming direct from the horse's mouth, do you mean to say that Priyanka has revealed the HG for free already?

On the other hand, if you are bringing something new to the table, maybe you should get credit for it.

Is Erdos your idea? (I want to be sure to give the right credits).

On the other hand, if VdW was first mentioned by Priyanka, aren't you taking credit for something you haven't added any value to?
Cycles are part of PHP (also applicable to other Non-Random methods) - I thought this was clear already? Read carefully what it says on my forum:
(link:s://s10.postimg.org/cndn421q1/forum.png)

Priyanka has revealed the concepts for the HG, albeit without any context. I've bridged that gap and given you the entire context to how it works for one of the two main approaches (structures and properties based on Non-Random). The other approach is Parallel Universes. Again, the new forum sets the agenda for that too:
"Parallel streams enable us to differentiate important global constants across all "universes" compared to those that only apply locally."

Erdos credit goes to reddwarf/rrbb who gave us positions. Positions is an advanced type of parallel stream that helps with the parallel universes approach. Both approaches can even be used together in a single system, so that's why a single topic at this forum could never do it justice. It's a whole new side to Roulette that requires an entirely new forum.

Priyanka has now revealed at this forum a third approach, for tackling the problem of Variance Avoidance. That was also considered to exist and had been alluded to through various posts by Priyanka and P.A., and the fact he had a connection to Manrique. However, it was only YESTERDAY that this was explicitly confirmed. Fortunately, a section for this was already in place at my forum, since it has been anticipated for quite some time.
(link:s://s7.postimg.org/8y62sju5n/image.png)
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:03 AM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 26, 05:39 AM 2017
You can still come back here from time to time to ask Priyanka some more questions...or to paraphrase RD (not sure who that is). 

On the other hand, how does having your own forum increase the chances of preserving a legacy? 

If you die, and the website is not maintained with annual fees, it could be eaten up by the web. But if you put all your paraphrases here in this forum and you die, the forum will keep going as Steve keeps going, or sells the site to someone else. 

Likewise, let's say i test the Erdo structures until i find an edge and publish the edge in your forum.  Let's say i want my legacy to last as long as possible.  Which forum has the best chance of lasting the longest?
Well, I got a 2nd child on the way, so boohoo to you and Steve!  :wink:

I already shared a video about Erdos on the new forum... there's only a 0.5% chance of finding a specific length structure for 9 unique numbers. I think it might be too easy to gain edge on Erdos, so I look forward to seeing your results.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 06:10 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:03 AM 2017
I think it might be too easy to gain edge on Erdos, so I look forward to seeing your results.

Before i test Erdos structures though, i have to ask, do you already have an edge using Erdos structures?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 06:20 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 05:52 AM 2017
Priyanka has now revealed at this forum a third approach, for tackling the problem of Variance Avoidance. That was also considered to exist and had been alluded to through various posts by Priyanka and P.A., and the fact he had a connection to Manrique. However, it was only YESTERDAY that this was explicitly confirmed. Fortunately, a section for this was already in place at my forum, since it has been anticipated for quite some time.
(link:s://s7.postimg.org/8y62sju5n/image.png)

Ok so yesterday, Priyanka posted, in your forum, a solution for tackling the problem of variance avoidance, in a section of your forum that anticipated a solution to the problem of variance avoidance?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:23 AM 2017
QuoteOk so yesterday, Priyanka posted, in your forum, a solution for tackling the problem of variance avoidance, in a section of your forum that anticipated a solution to the problem of variance avoidance?
Nope - it was here in Steve's forum.

Quote from: Still on Apr 26, 06:10 AM 2017
Before i test Erdos structures though, i have to ask, do you already have an edge using Erdos structures?
I haven't tested it yet - but rrbb was very excited about it. And if you watch the video you can see why we have reason to be excited!

As usual - the first step of testing any Non-Random method is the mechanical test...

Friends: bet for first available friend/stranger. Some decisions need figuring out first.
VdW: bet for first available AP
PHP Cycles: bet for first available repeat

The mechanical method generally ends up break even without any edge - but is the first stage before adapting to find an exploit in the structures.

For Erdos more facts need to be established first for different unique numbers:
1) Asc/desc structures have different stats/limits
2) The length of unique numbers is a product of the asc/desc lengths.

Based on the facts you could figure out the mechanical method first before looking for the exploits. Who knows - perhaps a mechanical method may yield edge without needing any exploits? I have yet to try because with Non-Random the world is your oyster!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 06:32 AM 2017
Be sure to join falkor in further discussion if you are gullible and want to be dragged through the mud like peasants.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 06:53 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:23 AM 2017
Nope - it was here in Steve's forum.

Did you copy/paste it into the section of your forum that anticipated discussion of Variance Avoidance so that it could be discussed over there?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 06:56 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:23 AM 2017

I haven't tested it yet - but rrbb was very excited about it. And if you watch the video you can see why we have reason to be excited!

So when you told me about Erdos, did you tell me about the Holy Grail?

Or, when you advised revisiting VdW, is that when you told me about the Holy Grail?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 06:59 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:23 AM 2017
I have yet to try because with Non-Random the world is your oyster!

I'm just trying to find out where or when you told me about the Holy Grail, in this thread. 

Was it when you told me about Non-Random concepts?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 07:16 AM 2017
Still - enough questions already!! ??? Please re-read this topic and spend more time on the answers already given.
(link:s://s1.postimg.org/xoergazbz/image.jpg)
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 07:24 AM 2017
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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 07:33 AM 2017
Goin strong since 2014.

Scam scam scam

Beware beware see link in page 5 of thread
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 07:38 AM 2017
Trust me: you will get to eat the carrot if only you can see what the Saxon House analogy actually conveys? The answer is in the picture and the rest of the bits & pieces I mentioned in this topic. Put it all together and you have the HG (approach) - or go away and study 6 months on what Priyanka teaches over scores of topics.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 07:41 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 07:38 AM 2017
Trust me: you will get to eat the carrot if only you can see what the Saxon House analogy actually conveys? The answer is in the picture and the rest of the bits & pieces I mentioned in this topic. Put it all together and you have the HG (approach) - or go away and study 6 months on what Priyanka teaches over scores of topics.

So when you posted the three PDF's on saxon house building, is that when you told me about the Holy Grail?

Trust my questions.

The saxon house analogy was a reference to Erdos.  But you haven't tested Erdos yet. 
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 07:50 AM 2017
Nope - the Saxon house analogy was a reference to how all Non-Random concepts, their associated structures, and possible exploitation based on properties/characteristics of the posts. What are the relationships: post to post to roof? What does all this convey?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 08:02 AM 2017
bullshit alert

Beware of scammer

Research past threads
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 08:18 AM 2017
What happened on New Year's Day?

We got anything?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 08:24 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 07:50 AM 2017
Nope - the Saxon house analogy was a reference to how all Non-Random concepts, their associated structures, and possible exploitation based on properties/characteristics of the posts. What are the relationships: post to post to roof? What does all this convey?

So let's review.

When the thread started, you weren't going to tell. 

Then, when you did decide to tell, you told about non-random concepts, and added something you call structures. 

Now, when we talk about those structures, we should use the terms "posts", and "roof". 

You named, let's say five, non-random concepts, one of which you have not yet tested for positive results. 

You have just said that exploiting these structures is "possible". 

We know that Erdos has not yet been exploited. 

Have you been able to exploit any of the other non-random concepts?

If so, have you exploited the concept of structures on top of those non-random concepts?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 08:53 AM 2017
I'm not comfortable revealing details about my exploits - but for sure there has been progress in most areas - otherwise I wouldn't have created a new website and forum. There are several different exploits available to each Non-Random concept - some result in more betting opportunities than others. Some require all posts, some posts, or can work with just single posts only. You all think this is a joke... but you have no idea just how powerful these concepts really are! How would you feel if you won the lottery - but nobody believed you from the clothes you were wearing? You tried to convince them and show them the winning ticket - but they still ridicule you. Just one step away from the grail and eating the carrot.... yet so far and so well protected through people's poor judgement and trust in the wrong people, including those who govern their system.

Who can you really trust?
*Prime minister
*Pope
*Priyanka
*Doctor
*Steve
*Police
*RG
*NASA
*Falkor
*President
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 08:56 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 08:53 AM 2017
I'm not comfortable revealing details about my exploits -

Then just stop

Stop

Stop
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 09:01 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 08:53 AM 2017
I'm not comfortable revealing details about my exploits -

Ok, let's review again. 

At first, you were'nt going to reveal anything. 

Then you decided to reveal something. 

But you haven't revealed any details about your exploits.

What was it that you weren't going to reveal, but then revealed?

So you've spoken in generalities about non-random concepts, generalizing to the point of using house-building terms like "posts" and "roof". 

Is this what you weren't going to reveal, but then decided to reveal in this thread?

This is the Holy Grail?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 09:09 AM 2017
More holy than your religion! Sorry if you can't see the exploits (including the ones "posted" in this topic) or absorb the analogy. I will surely do better next year...
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 09:10 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 09:09 AM 2017
I will surely do better next year...
Please don't
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 09:30 AM 2017
We are tired of it

Explain how to use these principles AT the roulette table with examples of play

Or stop
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 26, 10:56 AM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 08:18 AM 2017

What happened on New Year's Day?

We got anything?



As a resident of the flat earth planet, Gilius-Falkor follows a different calendar system.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 11:00 AM 2017
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 26, 10:56 AM 2017

As a resident of the flat earth planet, Gilius-Falkor follows a different calendar system.

Oh man. Lol

Sorry Steve had to find the gif

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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 12:25 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 09:09 AM 2017
More holy than your religion! Sorry if you can't see the exploits (including the ones "posted" in this topic) or absorb the analogy. I will surely do better next year...

So let's review again. 

When you started this thread, you were not going to reveal anything, not even to speak in generalities using analogies. 

Then, you changed your mind, and decided you would at least speak in generalities using analogies. 

After you spoke in generalities, you said you "told" us the Holy Grail. 

After you told us the Holy Grail, you now say it is holier than "your religion". 

So i will repeat a question that you avoided earlier:

Do you have the right to have your feet licked for speaking in generalities and analogies?

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 12:38 PM 2017
Sorry you don't appreciate my teaching methods nor my answers to all your questions it seems. For the serious student I have made available all the tools and resources to beat the game - communication problems notwithstanding. So let's just leave it at that instead of trying to flog a dead horse.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 12:48 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 12:38 PM 2017
Sorry you don't appreciate my teaching methods nor my answers to all your questions it seems. For the serious student I have made available all the tools and resources to beat the game - communication problems notwithstanding. So let's just leave it at that instead of trying to flog a dead horse.

For further scam learning please forward yourselves to falkNORS new forum

He promises NOTHING in the end (at least not roulette related. You will learn about theories and architecture)
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 12:53 PM 2017
Sorry I'm being so tough

This has to finally stop

Still waiting on the New Year's Day release from end of 2014 into 2015. The lonnggggg thread in which you dragged people along

Maybe you are weird? Get the jollies from leading people along


it ends now
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 12:55 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 12:38 PM 2017
For the serious student I have made available all the tools and resources to beat the game - communication problems notwithstanding. So let's just leave it at that instead of trying to flog a dead horse.

What tools and resources to beat the game are those?

It's a vague statement.

Are those tools and resources here in this thread?

Are they in this forum?

Or,

Are they in your other new forum?

Are the serious students going over there?

What does "dead horse" mean?

Does that mean it is your intention to never get more specific than general analogies such as "post" and "roof"?

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 12:38 PM 2017
Sorry you don't appreciate my teaching methods nor my answers to all your questions it seems.

You haven't answered several of my questions, including the question about you're implied right to have your feet licked. 

Should the gratitude of "serious students" extend to licking your feet?



Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 01:35 PM 2017
Be careful still

Asking real questions might scare him away

Actually, keep on.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:09 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 26, 12:55 PM 2017
What tools and resources to beat the game are those?

It's a vague statement.

Are those tools and resources here in this thread?

Are they in this forum?

Or,

Are they in your other new forum?

Are the serious students going over there?

What does "dead horse" mean?

Does that mean it is your intention to never get more specific than general analogies such as "post" and "roof"?

You haven't answered several of my questions, including the question about you're implied right to have your feet licked. 

Should the gratitude of "serious students" extend to licking your feet?
You haven't answered my questions yet so I don't feel like we are having a 2-way conversation here. Unless we can fix this one-sided communication problem then I think we should call it quits. Most of your questions seem like questions for the sake of asking questions. I think you need to work with what you've got so far, do a bit of mental processing, and then come back with more relevant questions that could benefit you more - perhaps after some initial testing and having some kind of results to show for it. This approach requires effort to develop a working system tailored to your needs.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 02:12 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:09 PM 2017
You haven't answered my questions yet so I don't feel like we are having a 2-way conversation here. Unless we can fix this one-sided communication problem then I think we should call it quits. Most of your questions seem like questions for the sake of asking questions. I think you need to work with what you've got so far, do a bit of mental processing, and then come back with more relevant questions that could benefit you more - perhaps after some initial testing and having some kind of results to show for it. This approach requires effort to develop a working system tailored to your needs.

Do you have tiny voices in your head that tell you things
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:14 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 02:12 PM 2017
Do you have tiny voices in your head that tell you things
I wish!!! Then I wouldn't need to play Roulette - and could claim all my expenses from the government - even get most of my rent paid without having to do any work.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: MumboJumbo on Apr 26, 02:16 PM 2017
But what did you figured out?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:23 PM 2017
Quote from: MumboJumbo on Apr 26, 02:16 PM 2017
But what did you figured out?
That most people's brains here depend on having no foundation in just about anything?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 02:28 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:23 PM 2017
That most people's brains here depend on having no foundation in just about anything?

Then leave

As fast as humanly possible

So fast that your particles turn to energy via the E=MC2 equation. Or is that fake to!?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:35 PM 2017
But this is about da grail, man... are you crazy!?  O0
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 02:39 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:35 PM 2017
But this is about da grail, man... are you crazy!?  O0

Haven't seen you link any of this to roulette using examples

You've been doing this for years

Unfortunately for you, it is time to "put up or shut up"

Spill the beans or you are gonna have a bad time here

The time has come friend

No more bullshit
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:46 PM 2017
I beg to differ. I provided examples.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 02:48 PM 2017
It's the end of the line

What's the HG you claim to have?

Sho me on some roulette actual results
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:53 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 02:48 PM 2017
It's the end of the line

What's the HG you claim to have?

Sho me on some roulette actual results
It's based on Friendship - but you are a Stranger!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 02:57 PM 2017
Makes total sense

:o
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 03:03 PM 2017
The point is that the buck stops here

I'm going to see to it that this idiocy comes to a halt

And if you actually have a method to explain it properly and stop this madness

It's unhealthy for the forum

So decide what you want to do cause I'm not going to leave you alone
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 03:23 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 02:09 PM 2017
You haven't answered my questions yet so I don't feel like we are having a 2-way conversation here. Unless we can fix this one-sided communication problem then I think we should call it quits. Most of your questions seem like questions for the sake of asking questions. I think you need to work with what you've got so far, do a bit of mental processing, and then come back with more relevant questions that could benefit you more - perhaps after some initial testing and having some kind of results to show for it. This approach requires effort to develop a working system tailored to your needs.

I don't recall any questions you had for me personally.  I see a lot of pedantic rhetorical questions meant for public consumption.  Perhaps someone will answer one of them. 

My questions are for observing attitudes about the rule in this forum about baiting.  They are also for giving you an opportunity to express why what you are doing is not baiting.

I am happy to end the question period if that's what you want to do. 

I have not expected any answers to any of my questions, and see the random answers you've given as just that, random. 

So i feel it's been a one-way conversation.   

What else is baiting except a one-way conversation intended to get for the baiter, what the baiter wants?

I've asked you if you want your feet to be licked?

Didn't get an answer to that one, although it was heavily implied earlier in this thread. 

We can move on to the observation phase of my observations, as i don't think there is need for any more questions anyway. 

What you want, i observe, is to limit contributions to this forum to vague generalities and analogies, which are termed "teaching methods".   

What you want, are more answers from Priyanka. 

What you want, is to take Priyanka's contributions over to your new forum. 

At your new forum you want to exploit Priyanka's contributions. 

At your new forum, you want to exploit the group sourced testing powers of the group, to contribute to the edge you already say you have. 

That's what you're doing here, but there you can have more control over that process. 

The edge you have is not enough for you.

You want more of an edge, so you stay here to ask Priyanka more questions.   

You also stay here to promote group resources your way...for more of an edge, with nothing in return (no quid pro quo). 

Now, you are here to promote group resources to go in the direction of your new forum.

At the new forum, you want to promote and direct all research and development in the direction of what you call non-random concepts. 

You'll continue doing this as long as you can. 

I'm just observing the relationship you have with the rule in this forum about baiting before i make a recommendation to Steve. 



Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 04:20 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 26, 03:23 PM 2017
I don't recall any questions you had for me personally.  I see a lot of pedantic rhetorical questions meant for public consumption.  Perhaps someone will answer one of them. 

My questions are for observing attitudes about the rule in this forum about baiting.  They are also for giving you an opportunity to express why what you are doing is not baiting.

I am happy to end the question period if that's what you want to do. 

I have not expected any answers to any of my questions, and see the random answers you've given as just that, random. 

So i feel it's been a one-way conversation.   

What else is baiting except a one-way conversation intended to get for the baiter, what the baiter wants?

I've asked you if you want your feet to be licked?

Didn't get an answer to that one, although it was heavily implied earlier in this thread. 

We can move on to the observation phase of my observations, as i don't think there is need for any more questions anyway. 

What you want, i observe, is to limit contributions to this forum to vague generalities and analogies, which are termed "teaching methods".   

What you want, are more answers from Priyanka. 

What you want, is to take Priyanka's contributions over to your new forum. 

At your new forum you want to exploit Priyanka's contributions. 

At your new forum, you want to exploit the group sourced testing powers of the group, to contribute to the edge you already say you have. 

That's what you're doing here, but there you can have more control over that process. 

The edge you have is not enough for you.

You want more of an edge, so you stay here to ask Priyanka more questions.   

You also stay here to promote group resources your way...for more of an edge, with nothing in return (no quid pro quo). 

Now, you are here to promote group resources to go in the direction of your new forum.

At the new forum, you want to promote and direct all research and development in the direction of what you call non-random concepts. 

You'll continue doing this as long as you can. 

I'm just observing the relationship you have with the rule in this forum about baiting before i make a recommendation to Steve.

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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 04:31 PM 2017
Sorry you guys don't share my enthusiasm, passion and fascination for Non-Random. It's the best thing to happen since 2015 IMO... yet - for all that - there's no literature, community, nothing... I am simply trying to bring this more to like-minded people's attention so they can interact and share ideas in a non-toxic environment - why should I be the only person fortunate enough to undertake this journey? My magical RPG-like adventure is not about playing against the casino at Roulette... it's about playing your own Non-Random game that does not get affected by what's outside and becomes a cage of almost static, unexplained, architectural structures that we can examine for their beauty without any distraction from the wheel, marquee, green carpet, balls or players... it's a separate universe - almost a utopia - where you eat all different fruits that grow in abundance whilst searching for any cracks running through the curious structures that reveal inside the genuine God responsible for the Flat Earth - now known to be the physical universe as we know it. Who else wants to be part of this new religion? Who has any PDF books about Ramsey Theory they would like to contribute? Who wants to be involved in the creation of the new Bible? Who accepts Priyanka as our Saviour and who rejects the faith? SPEAK UP!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 04:32 PM 2017
Priyanka. Time for you to chime in

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 04:58 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 04:31 PM 2017
Who wants to be involved in the creation of the new Bible? Who accepts Priyanka as our Saviour and who rejects the faith? SPEAK UP!

No

Get out.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 05:20 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 04:31 PM 2017
Sorry you guys don't share my enthusiasm, passion and fascination for Non-Random.

I'll observe these comments piece by piece.

I feel it's important to stop right here with the euphemisms you are using. 

"Non-Random" is a euphemism you are using to describe Priyanka's ideas. 

It's a way of taking Priyanka's intellectual contributions that have been publicized here, and privatizing them under your own brand of ownership.

To get around this, you are claiming value added, and you have been discrediting Priyanka's part in the establishment of these ideas on this forum.

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 05:55 PM 2017
Untrue...  :yawn: I am Priyanka's spokesperson - not his dis-creditor. In fact, on the contrary, I've spent a lot of effort in this topic trying to restore reddwarf's great name as the forgotten genius behind a lot of Priyanka's intellectual contributions. And if you knew this to be the actual truth would you accept a reasonable punishment? What gives you the right to freely abuse people? And what would your religious books' advice be on this matter?

For every false accusation you make, Still, do you ever consider in hindsight that you might be delusional or paranoid? Do you never learn from your mistakes - but continue to make misinterpretations and misinformed assumptions? Is there any self-improvement/self-development process that takes place, at all, or do you simply continue publishing smear campaigns and fake news endlessly without any self-awareness or remorse or guilt?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 05:59 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 05:55 PM 2017
Untrue...  :yawn: I am Priyanka's spokesperson - not his dis-creditor. In fact, on the contrary, I've spent a lot of effort in this topic trying to restore reddwarf's great name as the forgotten genius behind a lot of Priyanka's intellectual contributions. And if you knew this to be the actual truth would you accept a reasonable punishment? What gives you the right to freely abuse people? And what would your religious books' advice be on this matter?

For every false accusation you make, Still, do you ever consider in hindsight that you might be delusional or paranoid? Do you never learn from your mistakes - but continue to make misinterpretations and misinformed assumptions? Is there any self-improvement/self-development process that takes place, at all, or do you simply continue publishing smear campaigns and fake news endlessly without any self-awareness or remorse or guilt?

Did falkor just call another human being delusional and paranoid?

If so, if you google pot calling the kettle black you'll see falkors face

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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 26, 06:00 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 05:55 PM 2017
Untrue...  :yawn: I am Priyanka's spokesperson - not his dis-creditor. In fact, on the contrary, I've spent a lot of effort in this topic trying to restore reddwarf's great name as the forgotten genius behind a lot of Priyanka's intellectual contributions.

This is an example of a trend toward the diminishment of Priyanka's contributions, trending toward a rebranding under the umbrella of your own ownership. 

To get around this you are claiming to add value.

Sorry, enthusiasm and study does not equal added value.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:06 PM 2017
Quote from: Still on Apr 26, 06:00 PM 2017
This is an example of a trend toward the diminishment of Priyanka's contributions, trending toward a rebranding under the umbrella of your own ownership. 

To get around this you are claiming to add value.

Sorry, enthusiasm and study does not equal added value.
Please - stop directing your hate towards me for one minute - and look inwards and reflect on what I've said above. Please analyse your behaviour for once. Is what you are doing acceptable? What if you are wrong? Would you repent?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 06:08 PM 2017
link:://:.psychforums.com
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Scarface on Apr 26, 06:09 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 04:31 PM 2017
Sorry you guys don't share my enthusiasm, passion and fascination for Non-Random. It's the best thing to happen since 2015 IMO... yet - for all that - there's no literature, community, nothing... I am simply trying to bring this more to like-minded people's attention so they can interact and share ideas in a non-toxic environment - why should I be the only person fortunate enough to undertake this journey? My magical RPG-like adventure is not about playing against the casino at Roulette... it's about playing your own Non-Random game that does not get affected by what's outside and becomes a cage of almost static, unexplained, architectural structures that we can examine for their beauty without any distraction from the wheel, marquee, green carpet, balls or players... it's a separate universe - almost a utopia - where you eat all different fruits that grow in abundance whilst searching for any cracks running through the curious structures that reveal inside the genuine God responsible for the Flat Earth - now known to be the physical universe as we know it. Who else wants to be part of this new religion? Who has any PDF books about Ramsey Theory they would like to contribute? Who wants to be involved in the creation of the new Bible? Who accepts Priyanka as our Saviour and who rejects the faith? SPEAK UP!

Ok, I'll bite.  Falknor I think you are getting too caught up in this non-random stuff and not seeing it for what it is.

In 3 spins, either red or black will repeat.

In 4 spins, at least 1 dozen will repeat

In 13 spins, there will be at least 1 repeat for a line

Within 9 spins, there will be an arithmetic progression for even chance bets (vdw)

The higher the number of spins, the closer the statistics will play out.  Ex. Red/black will  be nearly 50%

Falknor, these are all non random facts.  There is nothing special about these facts.  Nothing magical here, that changes the math or increases accuracy in bet selection. 
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Priyanka on Apr 26, 06:13 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 04:32 PM 2017
Priyanka. Time for you to chime in
RG-kids do cry a lot to gain attention. Once they realise the crying is not giving them attention, then they stop crying. Why pay attention.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 06:14 PM 2017
Quote from: Priyanka on Apr 26, 06:13 PM 2017
RG-kids do cry a lot to gain attention. Once they realise the crying is not giving them attention, then they stop crying. Why pay attention.

If anyone could stop this madness it's you

But good point

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:20 PM 2017
Scarface, that's just the basics - but there's a lot more to it than that. Priyanka mentioned "magic" and so did reddwarf mention "magic" - but Scarface doesn't believe there is any magic here. Well, that's understandable I suppose, but here is obviously not the place to go into deeper discussions about it. People's emotions get too much in the way of any logical thought process. How to cure all these demon-possessed men should be the focus first.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 06:22 PM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:20 PM 2017
Scarface, that's just the basics - but there's a lot more to it than that. Priyanka mentioned "magic" and so did reddwarf mention "magic" - but Scarface doesn't believe there is any magic here. Well, that's understandable I suppose, but here is obviously not the place to go into deeper discussions about it. People's emotions get too much in the way of any logical thought process. How to cure all these demon-possessed men should be the focus first.

Link it to roulette

Examples

Game play

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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 06:32 PM 2017
What I'd like you to do is this:

Use your knowledge and how you apply it to roulette in detail, prove me to be wrong. Make me look stupid. Make me apologize

Until then it's the same thing since 2014 you do this every year

I HOPE you can show me im the jerk off and make me apologize

I'll wait

Until then I'm just being blunt

If you can't take this friends, php, magic and apply it to a system with rules then what the hell are you doing? Taking up cyber space? Getting jollies?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:34 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 06:32 PM 2017
What I'd like you to do is this:

Use your knowledge and how you apply it to roulette in detail, prove me to be wrong. Make me look stupid. Make me apologize

Until then it's the same thing since 2014 you do this every year

I HOPE you can show me im the jerk off and make me apologize

I'll wait

Until then I'm just being blunt
Sounds like you are having a rare case of conscience?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 06:35 PM 2017
I want you to stop the jumbo jumbo and convert this to a system with rules

Then I'll apologize

Till then? Same old story with you since fall 2014

Although I know I'm wasting my time

You will reply back with some other outlandish stuff somehow linking this to the Bible and flat earth

Always a diversion with you

You get hit with questions then you start yelling about the new bible

Get a grip

Say it with me: ROULETTE
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Still on Apr 27, 12:04 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 06:06 PM 2017
Please - stop directing your hate towards me for one minute - and look inwards and reflect on what I've said above. Please analyse your behaviour for once. Is what you are doing acceptable? What if you are wrong? Would you repent?

I consider this a personal attack, and will let the mods make a note of it.

If it's not a personal attack, then I will have a green light to discuss what would motivate someone who is baiting the forum to bait it with impunity and malice.

I am only obviating what can be seen as a matter of fact, and have finished asking questions that would allow you to explain how what you are doing is not in violation of the baiting rule.

In making this personal attack, you are trying to send a message to everyone in this forum, that if anyone speaks up about what exactly you are doing, in relation to the rules, you will try to shut them up with a personal attack. 

I will be making my recommendation to Steve soon.

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 12:52 AM 2017
Guys let's be careful not to make this personal.

Falkor, you need to keep in mind your history on forums. Years of baiting, promises that never come true, and flat earth talk. Probably nobody who is paying attention takes you seriously. This is not a personal attack. Under the circumstances, calling you words is actually accurate.

A personal attack is calling someone a "c*********" (unless that really was your thing). Another example is calling someone a "stupid c**t".

Realistically, I dont think you are of a reasonable mind Falkor. I think you are on the other end of the intelligence scale. I consider you manipulative, dishonest and egocentric.

You are being asked plain questions. You cannot answer them. One is what happened to your new years promise?

How can you expect anyone to take you seriously after years of the same bullshit?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 01:06 AM 2017
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I donlt think anyone here is going to make progress with Falkor. This is a person who either genuinely believes the Earth is flat, or deliberately pretends to believe it. Either way, wtf??

Do we really expect him to have a valid answer as to why he has been crapping on for years with the same vague fairy talk that never goes anywhere?  Is a manipulative person who has serious problems ever likely to admit it? This will just go in circles.

Already Falkor has indirectly admitted all he has is an untested theory, not the holy grail. And after years of the same crap, he has no credibility with anyone that has a brain.

Falkor, for now I'm not banning you but you have a last chance to start answering questions and making sense. I dont expect you to, so I'm putting your messages on moderation. And anything that's just more of the same vague nonsense about roofs and house support beams, or the history of Christ, wont be approved.

You can start with this: why didnt you keep your promise for the new year? (as per previous posts mentioned in this thread)
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 03:05 AM 2017
Below is part of a message sent to another member:

QuoteThe only value of Falkor to the forum is he helps keep it active, and presents views that at least are different (although still very incorrect). Thinking of triangular structure is something not often discussed. It's at least not the typical RRBB nonsense.

He would be a much better member if he:

1. Used the term "possible new idea" instead of "holy grail"

2. Didn’t lie his arse off and break promises (for years)

3. Didn't deliberately use people for his own testing, and ego.

4. Actually used proper logic

5. Gave clear examples and principles to test, instead of vague rubbish about roof structure and religion.

It's like he has tuned into a schizophrenic radio station in his mind, and he is just spewing out whatever nonsense comes into his mind without any thought. At the moment, even an automated bot posting random words would probably be more valuable to the forum. I mean this literally because new and random works can spark new thoughts.

As he is now, he is a clear negative influence on minds and the forum.

At this stage I decided to just moderate his comments. I wont publish any of the same old garbage.

RG it may be hard for you to see "presents views that at least are different (although still very incorrect)". Let me explain this. One technique for creativity is to think of RANDOM WORDS, then figure out how you might put them together to create a new idea. For example:

QuoteHow to use the Random Word technique

Welcome to the Random Word technique, the most basic and obviously creative technique where you use a random word (hence the name!) to generate new ideas. By getting a the prompt and forcing yourself to find out how you can use it to solve your problem you are practically guaranteed to attack the problem from a different direction from that you would normally. You take a random word, extract the principles behind it and then apply those principles to your problem to see how it can help. The skill is stopping your mind from (a) thinking this is silly and (b) directly using the actual principle behind the word to your problem without changing it to a principle which is easier to apply.

The first thing you need is the Random Word itself which is classed as the initial stimulus. Then you establish a Bridging Idea which is an idea which is based on the stimulus. You then use this idea as a bridge between the stimulus and an idea which you could actually use on your problem.
Quick example 1:

Using a random word of "Balloon" in the context of new ideas about cars.

A Bridging Idea could be that you inflate the balloon under the car. The advantages of this would be that the car jack would not puncture rusty cars and that cars could be raised on soft ground.

The resulting final idea could be to have a car jack which spreads the load over the car and the ground.

As full of shit as Falkor is, his use of seemingly random junk can actually be used to help create new ideas. However, from this perspective, an automated bot that posts random words on the forum would be more valuable to the forum. Because at least a bot wouldnt lie to people and use them. At least a bot doesnt have an ego.

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 27, 06:21 AM 2017
Was tired of seeing him degrade the forum

Let him find suckers to bait at his new forum

No more reign of terror from falkor
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 07:15 AM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 27, 06:21 AM 2017Was tired of seeing him degrade the forum

Yes same, but in the interests of free speech I wanted to sit back and let people be smart enough so that him posting garbage wouldn't be worth his time. But what happened was he was still misleading and harming enough people. Believe it or not, some people actually believe some of what he said. I mean at some point I have to do what is clearly best for gullible minds who really dont seem to get it. Anyway like I said he can contribute here if he follows basic rules.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: rrbb on Jun 17, 10:32 PM 2017
out of curiosity i check this forum once every two years or so. Nothing much changed it seems, 'same old, same old'. Falkor, can you send me a pm with the link to your forum? Just want to check it out: are you driven by attention seeking, less ethical motives or by the beauty of it all?

If you have the HG why bother?

In the olden days the quest for the philosopher stone was also a personal quest. The true value of the HG is not in the HG itself, but in what it teaches you about yourself, the way you think, feel, relate to others.

reddwarf.

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 17, 10:38 PM 2017
Rrbb he has nothing

He made a forum for self reassurance

His posts were idiotic run on sentences. Truth hurts in his case
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: rrbb on Jun 17, 11:05 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 17, 10:38 PM 2017
Rrbb he has nothing

He made a forum for self reassurance

His posts were idiotic run on sentences. Truth hurts in his case

Hi RG,

I just went over a few posts of falkor. It all seems somewhat erratic: going all over the place. And to paraphrase you (i hope you do not mind): that worshipping thing gives me the creeps.

rrbb
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: 3Nine on Jun 17, 11:10 PM 2017
Look for logic and the truth isn't far beyond.  Nothing logical in his posts.

Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: rrbb on Jun 18, 12:04 AM 2017
Quote from: Steve on Apr 27, 03:05 AM 2017
Below is part of a message sent to another member:

RG it may be hard for you to see "presents views that at least are different (although still very incorrect)". Let me explain this. One technique for creativity is to think of RANDOM WORDS, then figure out how you might put them together to create a new idea. For example:

As full of shit as Falkor is, his use of seemingly random junk can actually be used to help create new ideas. However, from this perspective, an automated bot that posts random words on the forum would be more valuable to the forum. Because at least a bot wouldnt lie to people and use them. At least a bot doesnt have an ego.

'Same old, same old'
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: praline on Jun 18, 05:52 AM 2017
Quote from: rrbb on Jun 17, 10:32 PM 2017The true value of the HG is not in the HG itself, but in what it teaches you about yourself, the way you think, feel, relate to others.

Great one!! Compleatly true!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: MumboJumbo on Jun 18, 06:51 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 05:41 PM 2017
I had obtained edge a while back - but just didn't understand the forces that were at work. Now I understand exactly how the HG works - in 2 different ways, actually! The shocking truth is that it's so simple. Without being exceptionally careful how one writes hints and tips, the game could be given away just like that! So I, myself, need to start exercising extreme caution - otherwise I might give away the HG with only a couple of sentences - if that.  :ooh: Scary stuff...  :-X

Ok pee pee quad what did you figured out?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 19, 12:32 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 07:57 PM 2017
OK, so once you've taken all that in then you are ready to understand how the HG works...

(link:s://s1.postimg.org/xoergazbz/image.jpg)

You see this mock-up of a Saxon House during construction? Well, imagine all the foundation posts are 8 random numbers... you cannot predict the 8 numbers - but you can predict the structure of the roof!

So that's it, folks... surprisingly simple... that's how the HG works!  :thumbsup:

I think I've figured this one out

Bet each new number that comes out

1 chip+2 chips+3 chips+4 chips+5 chips+ 6chips+7 chips+8 chips

Stop on a win

Example:

#21 (newest spin-value)
Bet #21:  1.) 13(x)

Bet 21,13:   2.) 0(x)

Bet 21,13,0:   3.) 5(x)...up to eight numbers in play
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That said it needs a progression each session for it to work profitably.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: rrbb on Jun 19, 02:15 AM 2017
Hi Proofreaders,

You are joking right? This is a waiting strategy: it will steal you blind.

The number of units needed=

Spins*(Spins+1)*0.5.

Plug in spins=8. This will give 36. So if the repeat occurs in more than 8 spins: you loose (big time).

You can also think about it like this.

When you play this strategy for an infinite time: all numbers will have occured an infinite number of times.

So the result of this strategy is a combination of 37 static bets (1 unit per number). ...
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 19, 03:58 AM 2017
Bet each new number that comes out

1 chip+2 chips+3 chips+4 chips+5 chips+ 6chips+7 chips+8 chips
You are joking right?
1 chip+2 chips+3 chips+4 chips+5 chips+ 6chips+7 chips+8 chips
Our old mate is just starting, so he sees 37 numbers are due. So he’s right at this point, due.
Spin gives Falkor #36. So what is wrong with that? Now he has a decision, he can bet one number, or wait; waiting is costing Mr F only his time. Again decision time, bet the 2#’s 36, 11 or wait.
Okay let’s get an independent observers opinion, Not some Harvard math intellectual thou but someone who’s got common sense.
We ask them where the next #is likely to come from, the 2 numbers on the marquee or the 35 remaining non-hit numbers. So what does common sense say? The larger group.
Why does Mr Casino not like large spread of #’s?
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 19, 04:47 AM 2017
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 06:12 PM 2017
The strange thing about it is that my sworn brother also figured out how the HG worked the night before I did - though not quite at the same depth as how I understand it. And I would never have figured it out without the combined help of 6 :lol: other people, including my brother (Dilshod):
--Priyanka
--Reddwarf
--Dilshod / donik7777
--Lohnro
--Gizmotron
Nottophammer

Thanks guys!  :thumbsup:

I reckon the HG was first discovered by Dyksexlic around 2009/2010 who helped rrbb/reddwarf discover it by 2012. Reddwarf had a number of students it seems, including Priyanka, 3Nine, possibly praline and a handful of others. Priyanka was in possession of the HG by 2013. I'm not sure how many others know it besides the top 3 in the above list - it wouldn't surprise me if there were around 10 people using it right now.

What would be really nice to find out is if Victor or Manrique knew the HG, as well as their connection with Dyksexlic, if any?

BTW, Dyksexlic is meant to be the undisputed master at using the HG!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 19, 04:53 AM 2017
10/10 makes you wonder,to many like the FOBT the other day.



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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 19, 04:54 AM 2017
But look next day


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Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 19, 04:57 AM 2017
and following days
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Theres plenty more
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 19, 05:03 AM 2017
Quote from: rrbb on Jun 19, 02:15 AM 2017
Hi Proofreaders,

You are joking right? This is a waiting strategy: it will steal you blind.

The number of units needed=

Spins*(Spins+1)*0.5.

Plug in spins=8. This will give 36. So if the repeat occurs in more than 8 spins: you loose (big time).

You can also think about it like this.

When you play this strategy for an infinite time: all numbers will have occured an infinite number of times.

So the result of this strategy is a combination of 37 static bets (1 unit per number). ...

Well Falcor has the picture of 8 (I've come to think those eight are *numbers that have hit twice*)

and he brings up Dyk's system (the expanding eight) I mentioned earlier

I admit I was wrong earlier (tested and it flopped three consecutive times)
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: Bettingking on Jun 19, 05:27 AM 2017
Im trying to combine the info provided but probably way off:
Betting 8 splits: 2units on 1 number and 1 unit on the other split number.
I assume flat bet in some form and possibly add the numbers when hit and their split pair.

Just an idea.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: rrbb on Jun 19, 09:11 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 19, 04:57 AM 2017
and following days
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Theres plenty more

Hi Nottohammer, so what does this proof? That with a progression and betting on the larger portion you have a consistent winner? Be careful where you tread my friend!

What is very nice about your system however: you bet on a process!

And yes, you are right, fancy math is not needed...
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 19, 09:36 AM 2017
no just showing how the groups of 10 spins play, i, i wont say you will see the same, but i see more groups of 7/10 8/10 9/10 than 10/10

If you get a 10/10 then how many more of the larger starting group will come, the only prob is the repeat could come from group 11-20 spins, but if you have a top dog,cough Bankroll you could get the repeat from spins 1-10.

But between you and me its better to take 1st profit, like in, Is it really that hard to win.

Just been on MPR and showed after 40 spins to waggawo the remaining non-hit and guess what the usual avg for 60 spins is so close 29 in 60 spins.

Yes maths at the end of the day will be right, but the old wheel doesn't know its supposed to play to the math
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 19, 09:51 AM 2017
plain and simple just bet the larger group, non-hit #'s and stop on 1st profit, plain enough to grasp.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: rrbb on Jun 19, 09:55 AM 2017
Hi NTH,

Thanks for your reply. I posted a question related to this method. you might as well answer it here: I claim you are betting on a process. Agree?

If so: what is the process that you bet on? To clarify my question (or to try it at least): the description that you give is plain and simple. But there is a deeper thought behind it which has to do (correct me if I'm wrong) with the "number generation"...


Why I ask this? Because it will help clarify what betting on a process means. This might open a whole new avenue...


grts
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 19, 10:26 AM 2017
To me your making to much out of a simple game, to much thought process.
Here it is, plain and simple no thought to it, just mark of the 1st 10 spins, now the hard bit by the sound of it, just bet remaining numbers from the large starting 37, if you see profit on spin 11.stop,or when 1st profit shows, stop.
Not much thinking envolved, even my mother-in-law can do it.


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Now the but, now we're in a process, if you panic at the BR depleating, now the process starts, but by which, what do you know, to get out of the hole, if any. A play on fancy words is not going to help you.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: rrbb on Jun 19, 10:41 AM 2017
Hi N2H,

I agree, it's plain and simple. If that's all it is, I will stop bothering you.

Just one more question: will you advice your grandmother to play with it to enhance her supplement her income??

grts
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: praline on Jun 19, 10:50 AM 2017
If i can express my opinion on notto's games, it would be something like this:

"He is using a cycle length statistics, without knowing it..."
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 19, 11:35 AM 2017
Quote from: praline on Jun 19, 10:50 AM 2017
If i can express my opinion on notto's games, it would be something like this:

"He is using a cycle length statistics, without knowing it..."
You are right there, i have no thought to lenght of cycles, or anything Pri and other math experts use, see me not having that lovely ability of math, i dont see all you see but a simple game that starts with 37 due numbers. I remember this fellow  O0 we had a lovely debate on due, i referred to due like having a time table due to the fact that all 37 #'s are due when i start, when i start i have the avg doc in my head, my timetable when a non-hit is possibly due, but they can run behind, but you learn how to over come this, with time, trial and error
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 19, 11:56 AM 2017
in reply 220 mentioned wagga
this is the sheet its 3 different visits to MPR, but time is against large #'s at start, but as game goes along, countback is watching for you, lets you decide for a non-hit or repeat, but what helps that decision is know avg for non-hit numbers.
After spin 40 how many more will come usually 30 non-hit by spin 60.
Looking at that sheet even i have a problem, but you see countback :thumbsup:

look at start of games 8/10,  10/10,   9/10, more seem to start with repeat.
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: rrbb on Jun 19, 12:59 PM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 19, 11:35 AM 2017
You are right there, i have no thought to lenght of cycles, or anything Pri and other math experts use, see me not having that lovely ability of math, i dont see all you see but a simple game that starts with 37 due numbers. I remember this fellow  O0 we had a lovely debate on due, i referred to due like having a time table due to the fact that all 37 #'s are due when i start, when i start i have the avg doc in my head, my timetable when a non-hit is possibly due, but they can run behind, but you learn how to over come this, with time, trial and error

N2H: this to me is a rather mathematical way of thinking! Forget about the formula's and names and stuff: 99% is plain logic, a clear mind and balls of steel (not being afraid to investigate and fail); really this is basically all what math's about.

I love the way you simplify/visualize stuff!
Title: Re: I figured out the Holy Grail!
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jun 20, 08:16 AM 2017
Quote from: rrbb on Jun 17, 10:32 PM 2017
out of curiosity i check this forum once every two years or so. Nothing much changed it seems, 'same old, same old'. Falkor, can you send me a pm with the link to your forum? Just want to check it out: are you driven by attention seeking, less ethical motives or by the beauty of it all?

If you have the HG why bother?

In the olden days the quest for the philosopher stone was also a personal quest. The true value of the HG is not in the HG itself, but in what it teaches you about yourself, the way you think, feel, relate to others.

reddwarf.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 26, 04:31 PM 2017
Sorry you guys don't share my enthusiasm, passion and fascination for Non-Random. It's the best thing to happen since 2015 IMO... yet - for all that - there's no literature, community, nothing... I am simply trying to bring this more to like-minded people's attention so they can interact and share ideas in a non-toxic environment - why should I be the only person fortunate enough to undertake this journey? My magical RPG-like adventure is not about playing against the casino at Roulette... it's about playing your own Non-Random game that does not get affected by what's outside and becomes a cage of almost static, unexplained, architectural structures that we can examine for their beauty without any distraction from the wheel, marquee, green carpet, balls or players... it's a separate universe - almost a utopia...