Look guys I'm sorry if I've come across as a joke, that's n
Not my intention, I suppose I'm just excited. Excited that I might be on the right track!
It's exciting to see the "Possible HG" in front of your eyes. I think it visually shows you all of Priyanka's lessons in ONE SIMPLE IMAGE!
Now please can we work together to get to the bottom of this... I've decided to share because only thoose who have studied it will be able to SEE what I'm on about...
And you have to create the image YOURSELVES.....
How? I'm going to tell you step by step. Then we can all begin searching for PATTERNS that HAVE TO HAPPEN!
Ok, here I go.....
In each game spin of roulette, how many games can be played using one chip max per position? How many games can you play per spin? THINK about it?
Do thoose games have different odds? Yes they do... So in multiple spins (which is actually many games played simultaneously) will there be overlapping sections of APs and or Cycles? Yes there will be....
What's everyone thoughts on this idea so far?
Each bet is independent and still with the difference between odds and payout. So this way of thinking won't work. You can't connect the bets. It's no different to multiple players on the same table
Quote from: Steve on May 10, 09:56 PM 2017
Each bet is independent and still with the difference between odds and payout. So this way of thinking won't work. You can't connect the bets. It's no different to multiple players on the same table
Hi Steve, thank you for your understanding, I really do appreciate the time you took to read my post and comment.
However please let me be more specific by saying that I am discussing non random concepts between each of these games.
Knowing about cycles statistics , AP positions (points at which APs are created) given by Pri and a view of the various games that a single spin generates is vital to understanding the link that is created when stacking games together.
Everyone interested can start by making the image for themselves. To visualize the trot so to speak, please feel free to play with this idea and let me know what you think.
Firstly.. In each spin.. What do we have?
Number 36
Dozen 3
Quad 4
Line 6
Street 12
You might think Yeah so what, that's obvious... But think about it? In a truly random independent game. Couldn't it be Number 36 and Dozen 2 or 1 aswell? That fact that number 36 always generates its position (Dozen 3 ALWAYS) through all possible positions is important to cycles and AP structure.. The very structure of roulette itself is not random. All games are based upon the outcome of the straight.
I recommend writing down each game that happens side by side to actually see the trot.
It's completely different and individual from playing each random game separately.
the cycles of all games and possible APs of all games are locked together because of this grouping and cycles from one stream can be used on multiple games.
Thoughts anyone? Can anyone who generates this trot image see any patterns?
It's worth saying that I'm not claiming anything, I just noticed something peculiar and wanted help trying to understand it! That's why I asked Pri for help :thumbsup:
Maladore give us a working example
Are you suggesting a follow the last bet? Start with high low, then dozen, double street, etc. Parachute progression?
Quote from: Scarface on May 11, 06:28 AM 2017
Are you suggesting a follow the last bet? Start with high low, then dozen, double street, etc. Parachute progression?
Scarface, what a beautiful idea :thumbsup: I have considered many possibilities and parachuting seems to be the most logical.. Remember I asked for help so I am not claiming I have the answer.. I want to find it tho!
I wish I could give a working example... Maybe a few people who understand this could get together with me and privately discuss and maybe find a solution? I am happy to share all my ideas with like minded people who have put the time into understanding roulette like we have but I am not happy posting anything concrete on a public forum. Feel free to PM me I see no harm in it. In fact I see it as protecting what we are all working towards.
Well give a example of spins and we will work on it together
Hi Malvador,
Are you referring to something like this pic that Priyanka shared?
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18690.msg175533#msg175533
Btw, not sure when the "trot" became a roulette term but wanted to say it bothers me every time I see it mentioned lol. Oh well.
3nine
That thread is painful to read at times
Because priyanka just wanted to openly discuss this
Nothing wrong with that
But the followers (falkor is just an example) tried to make it into something it wasn't. A grand conspiracy shrowded in secrecy
No matter how many times priyanka made it clear he just wanted to discuss a new concept in the open and that he had no mathematical edge, the followers made it into something else
Quote from: 3Nine on May 11, 07:22 AM 2017
Hi Malvador,
Are you referring to something like this pic that Priyanka shared?
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18690.msg175533#msg175533
Btw, not sure when the "trot" became a roulette term but wanted to say it bothers me every time I see it mentioned lol. Oh well.
Haha the word trot bothers me too but I can
See why it was used to describe the unfoldment of the game and more specifically the collection of any set of spins.
I believe Priyanka has described a very basic version in that thread, basic without edge per se... It is hard to explain as there are a lot of terms that people use to describe the same phenomenon, and people have different ways of looking at the "same thing".
While I will openly admit I do not have a full understanding of what Pri talks about nor have I studied the referenced image enough to make any conclusions. I will look more later today and TY for your interest and TY for thinking about my post. Instead of just instantly judging it :thumbsup:
Hey Rich, I agree but I didn't link to Random Thoughts thread if that's what you mean. And yes, KTF can be painful to read, too!
If you're referring to Random Thoughts the very first post clearly states the following:
If someone assumes that I am going to explain that I have an edge that everyone can play, read back what is stated in bold. To start with let us assume that there is no edge. One who is following this thread, will gain nothing more that some amusing ramblings and cryptic videos where I will boast of my winning sessions. Just setting the expectations straight. :P :P >:D
Ps... The "One simple Image" I am referring too is just that. IT'S SIMPLE.
If you want to see it please PM me and I will tell you how to create it in excel as not happy to post publicly online
Quote from: 3Nine on May 11, 07:41 AM 2017
Hey Rich, I agree but I didn't link to Random Thoughts thread if that's what you mean. And yes, KTF can be painful to read, too!
If you're referring to Random Thoughts the very first post clearly states the following:
If someone assumes that I am going to explain that I have an edge that everyone can play, read back what is stated in bold. To start with let us assume that there is no edge. One who is following this thread, will gain nothing more that some amusing ramblings and cryptic videos where I will boast of my winning sessions. Just setting the expectations straight. :P :P >:D
I like what priyanka was doing
A new way of thinking
It was the people who got involved that ruined it
Falknor even made a private forum for it :xd: :xd: :o
Quote from: Malvador on May 11, 07:45 AM 2017If you want to see it please PM me and I will tell you how to create it in excel as not happy to post publicly online
Well, it's already been established that even PM's are not private here so not sure it really matters.
Oye.
This place is getting so funny.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 11, 08:13 AM 2017
I like what priyanka was doing
A new way of thinking
It was the people who got involved that ruined it
😂😂
"People are blind to reality and only see what they want to see"
Quote from: MoneyT101 on May 11, 09:06 AM 2017
😂😂
"People are blind to reality and only see what they want to see"
People are blind to reality and only see what they are told to see.?
Priyanka did a good thing
But unfortunately priyanka brought out the crazies
Sorry to be harsh
But most of the followers of priyankas teaching are but cases
Holy moly.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 11, 09:20 AM 2017
Priyanka did a good thing
But unfortunately priyanka brought out the crazies
Sorry to be harsh
But most of the followers of priyankas teaching are but cases
Holy moly.
Sorry to be blunt, but do you only comment on peoples weaknesses? Can we not just discuss roulette? Since this is a roulette forum and not a help to grip reality forum?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 11, 09:20 AM 2017
Priyanka did a good thing
But unfortunately priyanka brought out the crazies
Sorry to be harsh
But most of the followers of priyankas teaching are but cases
Holy moly.
You know whats crazy, that i actually attempted to open your eyes in my replies to you. You just to stubborn and lazy to try something different and explore.
Let me go back to being a nut case
Malvador stop sharing :twisted: :lol: :twisted:
I repeat
Priyanka is ok. Good conversations
But the followers are space cadets.
Quote from: MoneyT101 on May 11, 09:29 AM 2017
Let me go back to being a nut case
Malvador stop sharing :twisted: :lol: :twisted:
Yea malvador, stop sharing. The casinos may close down
After all, not sharing is what priyanka wanted, right?
Maybe you guys have a nice home at falkors flat earth forum. It's private so you can discuss away.
Crazies
Quote from: Malvador on May 11, 06:40 AM 2017
I am happy to share all my ideas with like minded people who have put the time into understanding roulette like we have but I am not happy posting anything concrete on a public forum. Feel free to PM me I see no harm in it. In fact I see it as protecting what we are all working towards.
Most people here have put in a great bit of time in roulette, or they wouldn't be on this forum. You titled this OK I decided to share...but still don't want to openly discuss ideas.
Quote from: Scarface on May 11, 10:01 AM 2017
Most people here have put in a great bit of time in roulette, or they wouldn't be on this forum. You titled this OK I decided to share...but still don't want to openly discuss ideas.
We all have put a ton of time into this game
Countless hours
The moneyt and malvador types are this way because they probably have nothing of true value
So they mask it in a veil of secrecy to make us believe they hold a key
It's bullshit.
This is simply not true...
I have shared alot if info, its not my fault you don't read it properly or put any brain power into actually trying my suggestions. I cannot feed you a HG. Because as I've stated I don't have one.. I said I had some ideas and have shared them. Try listening to what I wrote...
Why don't you try to write out the full trot!
Not just a part of it. And guys comon please stop attacking otherwise it makes it hard for us to work together.
Why you started this thread? "Ok I decided to share.. " share what?? This is nothing but another drama-thread.... But people seems to love drama more than anything else! :S....
It should be deleted. There is No roulettesystem here, what i can see,
QuoteIt's bullshit
i like this one a lot....but what took you so long,i would have wacked it at the very start
I liked the idea presented by Pryanka!
It could be a good way to catch the hot numbers/repeats.
Yeah exactly like that wiggy but my idea is over all games... Not just ECs... It also requires no tracking per se, because when 9 games are played simultaneously you can be sure that an AP will form every spin.
Just a thought!
Ps. All thanks goes to Priyanka for bringing these methods and ways of thought into the light in a serious way.
Yes thanks priyanka for opening minds and wanting to talk in the open.
No thanks to priyankas followers though.
Sorry. Truth hurts.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 11, 01:36 PM 2017
Yes thanks priyanka for opening minds and wanting to talk in the open.
No thanks to priyankas followers though.
Sorry. Truth hurts.
Yup it does hurt!... it also hurts to see you so blind :twisted: :twisted:
So heres another secret
Priyanka shared the concept and of course she is open to speak about it.
You cant get anywhere with just that...So in Priyanka defence she has no edge
The application is not in the forums... where to apply it, how to manipulate it to use it.. its NOT HERE.
You cant get anywhere with the concepts without actually doing your homework.
So you can talk all you want about the people learning and not sharing.....but what they have shared you havent bothered looking into.
I shared how to create non random from a random betting scheme everyone knows and created cycles. 13 wins 6 losses flatbet. With multiple ww back to back before an L and applied vdw......Color coordinated lol :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
I also told you i can break even playing 2 dozens in in as many spins and you overlooked it lmao
I broke down your dozens sheet and told you how many times i win lose(
broke even flatbet on i believe 20+ bets playing 2 dozens, cant remember exact amount)
Its not the HG.... but RG your so stubborn and/or blind that you want to be spoon fed so bad....
THE HG CAN SMACK YOU UPSIDE YOUR HEAD AND YOU WILL MISS IT!Everyone feeling entitled aint going anywhere! Earn it! Work for it! Show your interest! If you keep attacking and doing the same thing from before, its like you will continue to keep playing against red after 13 in a row :thumbsup:
Take this info however you want, but you cant say people havent shared, if when we do you arent paying attention :thumbsup:
Wrong
I don't want to be spoon fed anything
That's why I don't chase priyanka around or people like you around begging for information. Because I don't care
I'm just pointing out the fact of what's going on lol. I call things out
The priyanka brigade looks crazy.
Thank you Money for your opinion, needless to say I completely agree with you, it's obvious that some people who constantly and instantly judge will never be open to new ideas or even try to intelligently discuss... it's a shame really.
As Priyanka once said children will cry when they can't get what they want! Sometimes it's best just to ignore them! If only they would proactively look into some of our (and priyankas) ideas?
If only we could remove the repeats (the repeats of pointless attacks and rubbish posts from certain members who "don't care" ) we might actually get somewhere!
As wiggy said
Who I respect cause he discusses methods
"Empty vessels make the most noise"
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 11, 02:22 PM 2017
As wiggy said
Who I respect cause he discusses methods
"Empty vessels make the most noise"
And who the hell are you to judge an empty vessel? I take this personally... I'm trying to help and discuss! If you don't want it don't read the forum! It's SIMPLE AS THAT
You guys are referencing priyanka yet you are doing the opposite of what he intended
Kudos.
RG a lost cause, even in my last post to you, i gave you a couple places to look.
I wont attempt to help you anymore, good luck to you :thumbsup:
Malvador.. ignore RG the new general :xd: :xd: :xd:
Ok.......
Nothing of value has been produced here
With exception of new ideas from priyanka
Again, priyanka is fine. It's the followers that are being insane.
Quote from: MoneyT101 on May 11, 02:32 PM 2017
RG a lost cause, even in my last post to you, i gave you a couple places to look.
I wont attempt to help you anymore, good luck to you :thumbsup:
Malvador.. ignore RG the new general :xd: :xd: :xd:
well to help out not only RG but others who might not have grasped what you tell, why not give the links and reply numbers to look at, then they might get to be on the same page as you.
Me i'll just stumble on with the trots, not toilet humour LOL
Now now boys. Put the pistols away.
No one says that who comes on the forum has to reveal all but then I have to wonder what they are doing here.
I have posted a few systems (some not so good) but my main one NLE which is still winning right down to the nitty gritty of it. It may not have bells and whistles but it works.
Was that you Priyanka on Betway Casino I have seen a couple of times? Unfortunately like me not in the big winners.
Good luck everyone (even including the assholes and tosspots)
Brian
I don't care about people sharing or not sharing systems
I care when someone posts a thread then states they will not lol
It's stupid
Nonetheless, it's turned into something priyanka did not want as priyanka wanted open dialogue
The crazies are twisting and turning it
So I have one suggestion: falkor has made a forum. Go discuss it there and spare us
(link:s://media1.giphy.com/media/9uorwgUW3jFsY/giphy.gif)
RG do you not have anything better to do than spam a forum? Seriously dude get a grip! :question:
I dont understand. What this guy decided to share? Can someone explain his system?
Quote from: MumboJumbo on May 11, 03:49 PM 2017
I dont understand. What this guy decided to share? Can someone explain his system?
I dont have one! I had a few observations that I wanted to discuss! I said this right at the start... I tried asking pri, she said no - share them on here, so I did!!! I shared my thoughts - Simple as that - Its a VIEW not a system.
Quote from: Malvador on May 11, 06:40 AM 2017
Maybe a few people who understand this could get together with me and privately discuss and maybe find a solution?
I am happy to share all my ideas with like minded people who have put the time into understanding roulette like we have
but I am not happy posting anything concrete on a public forum. Feel free to PM me I see no harm in it. In fact I see it as protecting what we are all working towards.
Malvador,
You titled the thread, "Ok I decided to share."
Then you made your previous post.
Yet, on page 1 of this thread, in Reply # 6, you said the above quote, with parts that I have highlighted in
Red.Do you see why so many people think that you are contradicting yourself in an egregious manner?
Yes I'm sorry, but I tried to explain, I tried mate.. I told people what I was thinking about, I gave them it all but people expected more. And yes if I did have the HG I WOULD PROTECT IT! WHO THE F WOULDN'T?
Im sorry everyone, but it's all there if you want to discuss I AM OPEN TO DISCUSSION the problem is NO ONE ELSE WILL LOL...
When someone had talked to me about it I have commented Have I NOT?
The only problem here is peoples expectations... Every one wants a bet this if that... But no one wants to help try and figure it out...
Well, whatever thoughts you would like to share via PM why not do it here? Look at it this way, if we find a system that has an edge most people won't even know about it. Most gamblers aren't on this forum. Even those on this forum, most won't even care about it or believe it. Even those that do, most won't have the descipline to even stick to the "rules."
I'm pretty certain a "holy grail" here will not shut down the casinos or make them chang the rules. Card counting swings the odds in favor of the player in blackjack, but its still a prominent game in the casino.
Stop being so paranoid ;)
Every time I revisit this forum I'm reminded how much of a waste of time this is - thanks all for clearing it up once again.
Scarface, the game of blackjack changed quite a bit once card counting was made available to all.
Anyway, this is a dead-end road. Have fun and find what works for you.
Quote from: 3Nine on May 11, 07:17 PM 2017
Every time I revisit this forum I'm reminded how much of a waste of time this is - thanks all for clearing it up once again.
Scarface, the game of blackjack changed quite a bit once card counting was made available to all.
Anyway, this is a dead-end road. Have fun and find what works for you.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Quote from: Malvador on May 11, 07:40 AM 2017While I will openly admit I do not have a full understanding of what Pri talks about nor have I studied the referenced image enough to make any conclusions. I will look more later today and TY for your interest and TY for thinking about my post.
Malvador - Did you study that post. Is that what kind of thing that you were mentioning? Can you try posting an example of the idea in your mind if you think you can. Then we can work on it further.
Quote from: Priyanka on May 12, 05:56 AM 2017
Malvador - Did you study that post. Is that what kind of thing that you were mentioning? Can you try posting an example of the idea in your mind if you think you can. Then we can work on it further.
Hi Pri hope you are well
Yes I did Priyanka, I studied the image and thought alot about it, I think it's very interesting that you use different ECs to form multiple APs...
However,
As an example, the only thing I can say is if you write down the 'complete trot' (all games) for about 20 spins just enough to see trot it needs to be written out in descending order. Use the structure of the table layout and playing positions that are already there for us to use.
Start high HL, then Dozens, then Lines, streets etc... You could use different positions I suppose but you would have to make sure that the bets were the right relative size (relative to EC)
If you write it out you will see all the cycles opening and closing right in front of you.
Can we use this Trot Map and the info to make a profitable system based on our current Knowledge of cycles and APs... I'm not sure? But one thing is certain and that is the image it creates is definitely not as random as one would expect.
Ps. Thank you for your time Pri
Here you go Priyanka, hope this clears it up :thumbsup: