This is Mr.J's system, that HE deleted from this section, but i do remember it... i tested and coded it in RX, with good results. This is a HIT and RUN system, the chart will go down after X number of spins...so, the Key is moneymanagement, (Only play short sessions).
Procedure: For each spin, bet one neighbour on each side of the current number hit (on the wheel). 2 numbers bet.
Progression -none- FLATBET
RX code
[reveal]
system "The Onion Method"
method "main"
begin
While number 5 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 10;
put 5 on number 24;
end
While number 24 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 5;
put 5 on number 16;
end
While number 16 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 33;
put 5 on number 24;
end
While number 33 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 1;
put 5 on number 16;
end
While number 1 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 20;
put 5 on number 33;
end
While number 20 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 1;
put 5 on number 14;
end
While number 14 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 20;
put 5 on number 31;
end
While number 31 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 14;
put 5 on number 9;
end
While number 9 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 31;
put 5 on number 22;
end
While number 22 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 9;
put 5 on number 18;
end
While number 18 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 22;
put 5 on number 29;
end
While number 29 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 18;
put 5 on number 7;
end
While number 7 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 29;
put 5 on number 28;
end
While number 28 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 7;
put 5 on number 12;
end
While number 12 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 28;
put 5 on number 35;
end
While number 35 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 12;
put 5 on number 3;
end
While number 3 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 35;
put 5 on number 26;
end
While number 26 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 3;
put 5 on number 0;
end
While number 0 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 26;
put 5 on number 32;
end
While number 32 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 15;
put 5 on number 0;
end
While number 15 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 32;
put 5 on number 19;
end
While number 19 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 15;
put 5 on number 4;
end
While number 4 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 19;
put 5 on number 21;
end
While number 21 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 4;
put 5 on number 2;
end
While number 2 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 21;
put 5 on number 25;
end
While number 25 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 2;
put 5 on number 17;
end
While number 17 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 25;
put 5 on number 34;
end
While number 34 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 17;
put 5 on number 6;
end
While number 6 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 34;
put 5 on number 27;
end
While number 27 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 6;
put 5 on number 13;
end
While number 13 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 27;
put 5 on number 36;
end
While number 36 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 13;
put 5 on number 11;
end
While number 11 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 36;
put 5 on number 30;
end
While number 30 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 11;
put 5 on number 8;
end
While number 8 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 30;
put 5 on number 23;
end
While number 23 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 8;
put 5 on number 10;
end
While number 10 has hit each time
begin
put 5 on number 5;
put 5 on number 23;
end
end
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Ignatus ...i wanna see your take on vaddis holy grail
Ignatus, thanks for reminding me of this method.
I tested 2 sets of 40 spins each last night betting 1 unit per number
1st set won 30 Units
2nd set won 0 units (broke even)
I was surprized to win, but a small win is better than a loss.
Attached is what I believe is the original Mr J onion method, where he mentions to use
unhit numbers from spins 1-25 and numbers with the most hits from spins 26-40
Regards,
I'll save you some time and money. It doesn't work. Mr Gay calls it a decent method. What is decent? You win couple of sessions and feel great. Just to give it all back later. Lmao.
Nothing What that girl posted wins . And I'm not saying that coz she's just that stupid.
Her latest at the other forum.....whooptydoo He shared a method again. Uhu it loses. Why ? Coz it's a DECENT METHOD. And we know decent works till you give it all back and extra.
There's only one way. Yup....Use The Damn progression the right way. And bet those hotties.
Use The Damn progression the right way. And bet those hotties.
what is it
explain please
Nothing ken has posted actually works.
If he gets a kick from someone looking at his system, he's sadder than i thought.
Quote from: Steve on Jul 04, 09:01 PM 2017
Nothing ken has posted actually works.
No No Steve. We are wrong. Those are tweaked beyond our imagination.
Btw Kenny...I know your watching. ...Your So easy to wine up. Like fishing with dynamite. Rofl. But seriously though...not Coz it's you...but Your decent methods are no better than martingale. It is what it is ....
Anyway...Your Not fooling nobody. I see you go at RG a lot. Hmm well RG his stuff doesn't work either but at least he knows it . And he don't care .
Now about the big talk once again from you. ...Your A pro right? Why dont you come see me and say it again. After all you should be rolling in money so you got time ..... Come Come come ..... as I said and I mean it....I keep my hand on my back ......
Quote from: iar000 on Jul 04, 04:19 PM 2017
Use The Damn progression the right way. And bet those hotties.
what is it
explain please
It's TG his method. After a (long) time I figured it out. And so far it looks he is right. It always made a profit. Use a progression and reset on time.
Quote from: denzie on Jul 05, 12:09 AM 2017Use a progression and reset on time.
I wish it was that simple. It's impossible to win with progression alone. You cannot string together any amount of spins and change your bet size, then call it "progression".
All you'd really have is a bunch of separate bets with the same odds and the same payouts. So nothing changes.I've read some of what Turbo says and he contradicts himself without appearing to know he does. So far I've only seen two people properly understand it. You don't need to be an AP. You just need to understand the bold text above.
Don't worry Steve...I know what you mean. But...
Im Not gonna start a debate over it. That's been done at the other place already. But it doesn't change the fact I win each and every session. Thx to random. I've looked for months to figure it out. I got his graphs redone each dollar for a dollar. So while testing I've start to notice something and yep. It makes a profit 99% of the sessions. (I won't say 100 coz that's probably not possible ).
If it's a HG .... Not sure but it's damn close for sure. He did reached more than 5 million dollar to prove it. And fun mode or not...there's no fun mode who did that for me.
It's one of the best systems out there.
Quote from: denzie on Jul 05, 01:22 AM 2017
Don't worry Steve...I know what you mean. But...
Im Not gonna start a debate over it. That's been done at the other place already. But it doesn't change the fact I win each and every session. Thx to random. I've looked for months to figure it out. I got his graphs redone each dollar for a dollar. So while testing I've start to notice something and yep. It makes a profit 99% of the sessions. (I won't say 100 coz that's probably not possible ).
If it's a HG .... Not sure but it's damn close for sure. He did reached more than 5 million dollar to prove it. And fun mode or not...there's no fun mode who did that for me.
It's one of the best systems out there.
Hi denzie
Just a question - if that one session goes negative how much will it cost in terms of sessions win ? Thanx
Quote from: cht on Jul 05, 01:30 AM 2017
Hi denzie
Just a question - if that one session goes negative how much will it cost in terms of sessions win ? Thanx
That would be one br. Which can be gained back in 1-4 sessions.
Although you could just keep going but with real money I don't do that. The more you play the more you get a feel for it. And if it doesn't go as I wish I might reset early. (Although I don't have to)
Quote from: denzie on Jul 05, 01:37 AM 2017
That would be one br. Which can be gained back in 1-4 sessions.
Although you could just keep going but with real money I don't do that. The more you play the more you get a feel for it. And if it doesn't go as I wish I might reset early. (Although I don't have to)
Thanks denzie.
Steve, is there an explanation from your physics side why(the cause) behind such a huge bias in a random wheel ?
Quote from: cht on Jul 05, 01:44 AM 2017Steve, is there an explanation from your physics side why(the cause) behind such a huge bias in a random wheel ?
Exactly what bias are you referring to? Every wheel has some bias (ie some numbers win more than others). Its rarely a strong enough bias, but biased wheels definitely still exist. My players find them sometimes.
If there is bias, it is not random.
And no wheel is 100% random anyway.
Please be very specific and I'll respond in detail.
Denzie, Ken is just a dick. There's lots I could say about him but I don't care enough. He gets angry when people dont pay attention, and jumps up and down when people mention his name once a blue moon. Ken, it's really time you got a life. Seriously, what are you doing?
Regarding Turbo's system, my understanding is he plays repeaters with a strong progression over a 37 spin cycle. He waits for a number to have 2 hits in 37 spins, then plays on it. When there are 3 hits, he either increases the bet on it or resets for the next 37 spins. There are many possible variations but it is all the same. The approach doesnt work because after multiple hits on a number, the odds are still the same.
You cant thank random for wins. That's like being thankful for the odds never changing. It's like John Solitude's raindrop method ("eventually" it will hit and there will be a predictable spread because its random) - doesnt work either, same fallacy.
Test more and I know it will eventually lose.
Sure turbo may have $5m in virtual credits. But you need to understand the math of parx. You are paid free credits just for logging in. If you log in and play with those free credits, you win more than other people who dont log in and play. Then when you top the leaderboard, you win 100k or so free credits in which case you can very easily top the leaderboard again, because other people don't have those credits to play with.
All it would take to top the leaderboard regularly is login and play the right amount of time. This way you don't deplete your bonus credits, and you maintain a higher balance than others.
You dont have to take my word for it. Another member tested the theory whether or not they realized it, and ended up one of the top ranked player too. It has nothing to do with the system. It's just the math of the parx.
No worries. I know how Parx works. I was there too right behind TG'S ass 8)
Presumably this is what you meant.
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What is TG method .....
Can we see what this TG method is?
I believe he gave enough clues to explain his system, which i explained a few posts back. Its really no different to other progression systems.
Quote from: Steve on Jul 05, 05:06 PM 2017
I believe he gave enough clues to explain his system, which i explained a few posts back. Its really no different to other progression systems.
Yes he did. But it's a puzzle though. And you didn't explain it correct . It's not with cycles. The cycles are explained to know what will come......
Anyway It's off topic here
Quote from: denzie on Jul 05, 11:12 PM 2017
Yes he did. But it's a puzzle though. And you didn't explain it correct . It's not with cycles. The cycles are explained to know what will come......
Anyway It's offr topic here
Is there a topic where I can see the original explanation from TG please?
It will all be in here somewhere, but you will have to join the forum and log in to view it.
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Quote from: Steve on Jul 04, 09:01 PM 2017
Nothing ken has posted actually works.
This sums it up nicely.
You can confidently take it even further and say, nothing ken has done actually works.
I'll never understand the purpose of staying on forums just to bash people and not actually talk about what the forums designed for
Ken has been over there for a long time
Don't think he's posted anything really worth reading. Just bitter comments
Turbo for some weird reason likes him. Has also told him today that people derail threads instead of making their own....he must be blind to what mister j does.
What a weird forum that place is
ken is a guy with many problems. He says stupid things with twisted deluded logic. But believe it or not, i know worse people. Bago is one of them. He is one of the dumbest people ive ever dealt with, who recites comments from smarter people to make himself look smart. he's one of the people i consider literally mentally ill. also blatant liar to avoid looking stupid. a long story but he literally may be handicapped. he was laughed off my player form. i dont think ive ever known anyone to like him, anywhere.
i dont think turbo likes ken. turbo has at least enough sense to know ken is a dick. but turbo has his support. notice ken really kissing turbos ass? he did the same to cakeb, but caleb knows what ken is regardless. just a dick. ken kisses anyones ass that doesnt call him a dick. Lets just say ken doesnt have many friends.
Im an expert at dealing with dicks. Ive handled so many of them in my life. im sure nobody has dealt with more dicks than than me. im seriously considering writing a book about how to deal with them.
im joking about handling dicks (really). but not about the book. i might interest people considering trolls and dicks are a large problem on the internet. i would not write it for profit. it would be a genuine attempt to help people with dicks
and the word of the day is... dicks
Quote from: denzie on Jul 05, 11:12 PM 2017
Anyway It's off topic here
Unless a thread creator strictly wants a thread to stay on topic, i dont believe in enforcing a "stay in topic" policy because it would disrupt natural flow of conversation. there is a benefit to staying on topic, but i think the flow of conversation is more important because many topic are related.
Where is mr j ?
Hopefully an insane asylum roomed with falkor.
Quote from: cht on Jul 05, 01:30 AM 2017
Hi denzie
Just a question - if that one session goes negative how much will it cost in terms of sessions win ? Thanx
Quote from: denzie on Jul 05, 01:37 AM 2017
That would be one br. Which can be gained back in 1-4 sessions.
Although you could just keep going but with real money I don't do that. The more you play the more you get a feel for it. And if it doesn't go as I wish I might reset early. (Although I don't have to)
I am not sure how big your bank roll is denzie, but a losing session should not take it all. The session would have to be a very unusual one to do that (cheating RNG comes to mind). In most cases you will always win or have a very small loss that is recoverable in the next cycle. That is just from my testing anyway, I have not had any large losing cycles yet. You might be playing it different to the way I do.
I have tested on both RNG and live dealer numbers and so far have not had a big enough loss to take my initial bank roll. The initial downturn can be large and scary, which is why you need a good sized bankroll, but if you have calculated the positive progression correctly you will, 99% of the time win back all of the initial losses by the end of each cycle.
This is my take on what turbogenius has said anyway.
I think this is a really good positive progression to use with TurboGenius's strategy, but I haven't tested it extensively yet.
link:://betselection.cc/money-management-103/'boom!'-positive-progression/
I use an idea similar, but not the same.
Quote from: Pogo on Aug 03, 02:46 AM 2017
I think this is a really good positive progression to use with TurboGenius's strategy, but I haven't tested it extensively yet.
link:://betselection.cc/money-management-103/'boom!'-positive-progression/
I use an idea similar, but not the same.
Good find -- thanks for sharing it. Such methods are ripe for tweaking to suit a person's risk aversion and profit preferences.