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Title: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 08, 09:32 PM 2017
Well we cant beat roulette
Betting dozens / colums
Black or red or other evens chances
Repeaters fail
Measuring distances fail
SO WHAT S LEFT ?????
IM OUTTA IDEAS
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Bettingking on Jul 08, 09:44 PM 2017
Do what the banks do....there are more reliable patterns there 😉
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jul 08, 09:46 PM 2017
Bigmoney,
What happened to your version of  Vaddi's method?

You said you were having some success with it by betting on the last 12 numbers with some type of a negative progression.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 08, 11:14 PM 2017
As ive said in a previous post it fails ...it fails too often to be profitable
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Madi on Jul 09, 12:41 AM 2017
God you lucky that kimo didnt accept ur challange. its doesnt work for sure and worst than any even chance system.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: MumboJumbo on Jul 09, 02:39 AM 2017
You should buy octpod-8 system. I am serious not joking.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 09, 02:52 AM 2017
Quote from: MumboJumbo on Jul 09, 02:39 AM 2017
You should buy octpod-8 system. I am serious not joking.
Comedian, best lol so far today
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 09, 05:06 AM 2017
So nobody has any ideas ?
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Madi on Jul 09, 05:34 AM 2017
It works at its best when you see 4 latest number on marque bet the next number of those 4 number. Keep going untill plus. Still not a grail. But work good
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: winkel on Jul 09, 07:11 AM 2017
Quote from: bigmoney on Jul 08, 09:32 PM 2017
Well we cant beat roulette
Betting dozens / colums
Black or red or other evens chances
Repeaters fail
Measuring distances fail
SO WHAT S LEFT ?????
IM OUTTA IDEAS

Don´t think about WHAT to bet - just think about WHEN to bet
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 09, 07:43 AM 2017
Yes that thought popped into my heap i was just thinking when i had my best successes playing roulette... an d the when to bet ...arrived from the universe
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: iggiv on Jul 09, 11:50 AM 2017
You can win betting single numbers only. They should include numbers within last 25 hits (25 last numbers) and cold with proportion. 2:1

But all this is very complicated and hard to explain and understand even for those who are trying this. But that's where you can start trying.  If you want of course.



Quote from: bigmoney on Jul 08, 09:32 PM 2017
Well we cant beat roulette
Betting dozens / colums
Black or red or other evens chances
Repeaters fail
Measuring distances fail
SO WHAT S LEFT ?????
IM OUTTA IDEAS
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 09, 01:02 PM 2017
Quote from: iggiv on Jul 09, 11:50 AM 2017You can win betting single numbers only.  They should include numbers within last 25 hits (25 last numbers) and cold
You can win betting single numbers only. 100% correct.

They should include numbers within last 25 hits (25 last numbers) Now starts the game of betting repeats.

and cold ? but there is an answer to this, later.

So how you going to pick the single #'s? Have a spreadsheet of all games you play, record how each of the starting 37 #'s comes in, record how many spins each non-hit takes to come in.
Once you have 100 games of at least 60 spins, you should be able to see how many spins say non-hit 12 takes to hit, you'll have an avg to hit and a max it can take to hit.
Attached is an average document for 500 games.
There's 500,400,300,200,100 and daily, which is the 500 games recorded daily, the other 500 is broken in to groups of spins governed by the 1st 10 spins, look at cells A517 to A522, whats the larger group? 9/10, look how many of the 500 are 10/10.
Below that starting at cell A558 to A 571 are avg to hit and max spins to hit each non-hit number.
Also on the 500 sheet at cell AK528 is avg in 30 spins, this is spins 11 to 40, 15.846, non-hit, hit in spins 11-40.

Theres loads more, but if you cant win with info like this, then you best give up.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 09, 03:56 PM 2017
Wally Gator,
these we played just now on MPR. WG look at the attachment. trying to type to you and place bets in 30 seconds i was 1 non-hit behind, but won 173 units at spin 32 betting repeats, yes repeats. Why, look at countback, best piece of info i've ever found for watching the trot.
Whats avg to hit for 1st 19 non-hit, 2 spins, if you playd the waiting game, spin 11 lose thats 1 spin, avg to hit 2 spins, so you could bet now.
Look at spin 31,24th non-hit is in, what does countback show, we should be expecting to see 21 non-hit not 24, so fast, we've had 14 of the expected 15 non-hit in spins 11-40, so repeats are needed to slow the non-hit down, won here and stopped, but with chat to WG after 3 repeats the 25th non-hit is i love this, over due


(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/07/09/temp_813499.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/u0LB)

now the yellow is the avg, the blue is spins could bet on FOBT, 25th is in,win.
Learn your averages


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10/10 talk later got to go
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: ozon on Jul 09, 04:31 PM 2017
Hi Iggiv
In your concept, when should we judge the right moment to use 2: 1
How many cycles of 37 spins should we wait to apply this rule?


Recently I read Turbogenius concepts where he writes to wait 7 cycles of 37 spins, and start playing 7 cold numbers with positive progression.
In the second session betvoyager ended the session for -4000 units. I do not know how many positive sessions would be needed to make a profit.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bobby on Jul 09, 06:15 PM 2017
I just got my proposal back and I'm looking to open an online casino... can't beat'm, join'm  >:D
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Steve on Jul 09, 07:08 PM 2017
There are countless ideas left. But to start, understand what has already failed and why. Focus on prediction accuracy. I keep saying it.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nowun on Jul 09, 10:53 PM 2017
Quote from: Steve on Jul 09, 07:08 PM 2017
Focus on prediction accuracy.

Absolutely agree.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jul 10, 03:28 AM 2017
Quote from: ozon on Jul 09, 04:31 PM 2017


Recently I read Turbogenius concepts where he writes to wait 7 cycles of 37 spins, and start playing 7 cold numbers with positive progression.
In the second session betvoyager ended the session for -4000 units. I do not know how many positive sessions would be needed to make a profit.


Don't be too surprised.

That is the typical outcome of nearly all of turbogenius's methods.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: denzie on Jul 10, 06:06 AM 2017
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 10, 03:28 AM 2017
Don't be too surprised.

That is the typical outcome of nearly all of turbogenius's methods.

I'm sorry to say but that's not true. You can't say it doesn't work if you don't know how he plays. Here and the other forum he gets a lot of heat. But not one single post said correctly how he plays. He ain't stupid guys. All info there but it's scrambled. Now up to you to fix the puzzle.

And tell me ozon....How did you played that 7 cold method?  (Which isn't a method but a point he tried to make ). But seriously how did you play it ?
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: MumboJumbo on Jul 10, 06:31 AM 2017
Ask WallyGator what is left you will get the best answer  :lol:
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Steve on Jul 10, 06:53 AM 2017
QuoteYou can't say it doesn't work if you don't know how he plays. Here and the other forum he gets a lot of heat

He gave enough information for anyone to understand his statements are contradictory, and his theories are invalid. Its nothing personal against turbo, Ive usually gotten along with him fine. He at least isnt a fruitcake like some. But unfortunately he's wrong but I sincerely would like for him to be right.

The whole parx thing is a waste of time for reasons I explained. Much better validation wpuld be rouletteplayers.org but he may argue Id try to steal his system. So noe he's looking at live spins, but any reasonable proof would take a long time. So unless he plays with real money it would be a waste of his time.

Anyway the best way for him to test is code RX and run long term simulations.

As for new ideas, again there are so many. One of the likely more promising is fractals, but it takes a very thorough understanding. And probably by the time you figure it out, you will have deeper knowledge if other things then will have lost interest in roulette.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: ozon on Jul 10, 08:58 AM 2017
Hi Denzie
I  use tracker, I was waiting for 259 spins and I choose 7 coldest numbers, I started playing with 1 unit for every number after hitting each number I increased the stake to exactly that number. I played until I finished the progression, when the first number hit 16 units.
In fact, it may be that I was hit by a very bad variance of betvoyager.
In the past I have seen how good methods were destroyed at the beginning, and over time they came out plus.
But if in one session I lost 4 k units need at least 20 sessions to go out plus.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: ozon on Jul 10, 09:18 AM 2017
Another option that I did not play could be playing, progressing in that way, when hit one  of the coldest number, we raise stake for all numbers at the same time.
This option was not played, it may be more aggressive, but it may be more effective.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: 3Nine on Jul 10, 09:56 AM 2017
When you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this - you haven't.
- Thomas Edison
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Taotie on Jul 10, 11:18 AM 2017
You will never exhaust all possibilities. You might as well make a wish as you try to blow out the sun.

BTW, all that people like Steve, and Herb/Farnsworth3/snowman/doctor sir anyone/etc/etc/ have told you are also possibilities.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: maestro on Jul 10, 11:47 AM 2017
run RX for say more than one cycle you will see how numbers go...will be a group of 12 to 15 numbers above or to std deviation of 0.5 say, so this is your group  of numbers to deal with...as number of that group hits put a chip on it and if another one hits back it too...how many number do you think roulette will pull before hits repeater from your group...i think you will be dealing with not that many numbers...just a thought
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 11, 04:57 AM 2017
So whats left, Average, its all you have.
Ozzy remember i said they hit fast in last 20 spins where we expect to see 30.5 non-hit in 60 pins,


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5 0x's came in last 10 spins, less 0x's to find, but nearly as many as spin 11-20


(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/07/11/temp_581943.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/uYhF)
So avg attachment is there at reply 12, what you all waiting for, oh i know E/C, well good luck with that, also hot repeaters, would you make a profit as spin 49 is the R3, how much are the R2's costing
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 11, 05:08 AM 2017
Even Morts #'s got 30 non-hit at spin 60, at spin 40 it had 26, 0x's , +2 on the expected 24


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Oh look 9/10, what we see more often than 10/10, but thats a whole different ball game betting for 1 repeat in 10 spins, but doable
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 11, 05:09 AM 2017
Mr Falkor, is it ok to be posting in here
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: ozon on Jul 12, 04:53 AM 2017
I played 7 coldest numbers with progression option # 2
So I increased the stake after every hit.
Betvoyager fun mode was pretty easy.
I went into the real mode, I wanted to see how far we were able to go.
I was playing for 1 cent roulette, Bankrol 3500 units.
At first I did 700 units.
When my bankroll was 4200 units, bad session an i lost all.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Steve on Jul 12, 06:32 AM 2017
a system that wins almost every time is easy to design. The problem is what happens eventually.

Roulette is like life in the sense that if you try to take a shortcut, you pay for it later. You need to do it properly by addressing the real problem.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 12, 08:44 AM 2017
You are talking in riddles steve
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Taotie on Jul 12, 09:45 AM 2017
Quote from: Steve on Jul 12, 06:32 AM 2017
a system that wins almost every time is easy to design. The problem is what happens eventually.

Roulette is like life in the sense that if you try to take a shortcut, you pay for it later. You need to do it properly by addressing the real problem.

Shortcuts lead to long delays. The real problem is that people feel the need to get from A to B in a straight line, and that usually involves shortcuts.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jul 12, 09:50 AM 2017
Quote from: Steve on Jul 12, 06:32 AM 2017


Roulette is like life in the sense that if you try to take a shortcut, you pay for it later. You need to do it properly by addressing the real problem.


This "roulette is like life" phrase reminded me of a similar one related to chess (read it in a book somewhere).

Just before (or maybe during) the 1972 world championship match in Reykjavik, Iceland, there was a press conference where both Boris Spassky and Bobby Fischer were present.

During the conference, Spassky commented, "Chess is like life."

To which Fischer instantly retorted, "Chess IS life."

Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Taotie on Jul 12, 10:34 AM 2017
Quote from: Taotie on Jul 12, 09:45 AM 2017
Shortcuts lead to long delays. The real problem is that people feel the need to get from A to B in a straight line, and that usually involves shortcuts.


Round and round and round she goes and where she stops no body knows.  :twisted:
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Taotie on Jul 12, 10:38 AM 2017
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 12, 09:50 AM 2017
This "roulette is like life" phrase reminded me of a similar one related to chess (read it in a book somewhere).

Just before (or maybe during) the 1972 world championship match in Reykjavik, Iceland, there was a press conference where both Boris Spassky and Bobby Fischer were present.

During the conference, Spassky commented, "Chess is like life."

To which Fischer instantly retorted, "Chess IS life."

Yes, but they were both wankers. So chess is a wank and life is a wank, or should I say chess and life are ziggly biggly wigglys.

Therefore roulette is a ziggly biggly wiggly, with random overtones.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Badger on Jul 12, 11:11 AM 2017

"Yes, but they were both wankers."

I can understand you saying that about Fischer, but why Spassky?

When I was much younger, my most prized book was Fischer's 60 most
memorable games. He was my hero and I tried to play like him,
but I know that he was a pain in the ass. A real prima donna.
I also had Spassky's 100 best games, but he really was a nice guy.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Taotie on Jul 12, 11:22 AM 2017
Of course you are right, Badger.

It's just that you should never let the truth get in the way of a good story.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jul 12, 12:04 PM 2017
Quote from: Badger on Jul 12, 11:11 AM 2017
"Yes, but they were both wankers."

I can understand you saying that about Fischer, but why Spassky?

When I was much younger, my most prized book was Fischer's 60 most
memorable games. He was my hero and I tried to play like him,
but I know that he was a pain in the ass. A real prima donna.
I also had Spassky's 100 best games, but he really was a nice guy.

Badger,
I agree Spassky was a nice guy. In fact, I would argue that he was too much of a nice guy.

In my estimation, he made way too many concessions to Fischer in the build up to their showdown in Reykjavik, Iceland. I think you can say that Spassky had already lost the psychological match to Fischer even before a single pawn had been physically moved on the chess board.

Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jul 12, 12:09 PM 2017
Badger,
I also regard Fischer's My 60 Memorable Games as, arguably, my favorite chess book of all time.

For anyone else who might be interested, I am attaching the scans of the front and back covers of my copy of the book.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Badger on Jul 12, 12:26 PM 2017
Mine had a different cover. Obviously a later edition.

Gligorich was another of my favourite grandmasters. I aspired to
play the Kings Indian Defence like him. Tal, of course was sublime.

In the 1980's we had to do 2 years military service. When I asked for time off to play
in a national tournament, I was told that chess was not a recognised sport.
I never played in tournaments again.
But every now and then, I enjoy an online game against shredder.

Nice to see there are chess players out there.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Badger on Jul 12, 02:15 PM 2017

"It's just that you should never let the truth get in the way of a good story."


:thumbsup: I see you're a CNN fan.
What happened to your friend, Poit?
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Taotie on Jul 12, 06:38 PM 2017
Wish I knew. Poit just kind of disappeared, along with some others. Aliens maybe?

Ask Steve, he might know.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Steve on Jul 12, 06:47 PM 2017
Last I knew, Poit just focused on his work.

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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jul 12, 11:42 PM 2017
Quote from: Badger on Jul 12, 02:15 PM 2017

"It's just that you should never let the truth get in the way of a good story."

:thumbsup: I see you're a CNN fan.


Ah, CNN -- the Clinton News Network ......

where they never let the truth get in the way of a good story, especially when it involves Trump -- the conqueror of Hillary Clinton:

link:s://:.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/business/3-cnn-journalists-resign-after-retracted-story-on-trump-ally.html


Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 13, 06:28 AM 2017
Big M
something so simple, even Bubbles the chimp could do it, as he can paint.

Supposedly betting for repeats is cheaper than betting remaining non-hit #'s. If so this should be ok ????

Here is Morts 1st 10 spins of the 124 he played today.


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As we can see theres been a repeat


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betting with $1 unit, 1st 4#'s $10 return $36  +26 on ya 10

what happens, is you wait out the rest of the 10 spins, why, as 9/10 is more common in 10 spins.

so you waited out the remaining spins, repeat above, looking to get the repeat as most common is 9/10.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 13, 06:33 AM 2017
here are the groups of 10 spins, from spin 1


(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/07/13/temp_392668.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/uIQH)
last 4 spins that checkpoint wont show as 10 spins needed
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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 13, 06:44 AM 2017
so i randomly start at spin 37, this is your groups of 10 spins


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 13, 07:35 AM 2017
I just dont understand it more info please
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 13, 10:50 AM 2017
A repeat happens in 1st 10 spins more often than 10 complete spins without repeat. So just use 10 spins, todays numbers just gave repeats in the groups of ten spins. Here they are as 124 spins, where you'll see the groups of 10 spins.


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 13, 11:01 AM 2017
so after 1st 10 spins, that had the repeat at spin 5, you start to bet from spin 11 up to a repeat of spins 11-20, the second group of 10 spins, the repeat is #18,3rd spin, so sit out the rest till spin 20, then start to bet for a repeat in 3rd group of 10 spins 21-30, which is #7 seen as spin 25.

So what would happen if Mort had started play at spin 37 which is reply 48.

Obviously you'll get a 10/10, so you'll have to decide how you carry on, me i'd just use 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3 if lose on 10th spin, take the hit.
If you have seen the latest average document posted somewhere, on sheet called 500 it shows more 10 spin games, give a repeat, and 9/10 is the biggest group. So soon as a repeat happens stop, sit out till 10th spin, then start again.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 13, 01:05 PM 2017
Thank u nottophammer
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 13, 01:55 PM 2017
Big M
Theres 2 ways to play this, but what you have to remember is 10/10 does happen, worst i've seen is 3 in a row, which is 92 units lost each time, But you can increase next 10 spins, by 1 unit to 2 units, if lose again increase if you have a big BR, or just stick to 1 unit.

So play as above in actual blocks of 10 spins or like this


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again Morts #'s, so we hit with #7, wait for next spin,# 29 and bet for next 10 spins,stop on a win, I suppose you could start with the #7 repeat.
You dry test so find best way for you

Good luck Bud :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 13, 05:19 PM 2017
Nottophammer thsnks champion
I will bactest this looklike sunday is the day for the backtest as im nrarly finished my holiday
Thank u again
BIG MONEY
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 03:10 AM 2017
Big M
i'm going to post over time loads of sheet showing what just had on MPR, started playing at 5:34, Azim, Skakus and think it was lowkey33 on.
Said to Skakus have not seen many doubles or non-consecutive doubles, like 23,7,23 or 1,1 where as they usually all over the marquee and thats 100+ spins.
Anyway heres the 1st 10 spins


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8/10
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 03:24 AM 2017
so as said yesterday you'll see 10/10, the ? is how often, i did say 3 was max seen so far, so ? is how you handle 10/10


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Now have you seen the avg 500 sheet that shows up to the 19th non-hit avg to hit in 2 spins, as you see countback shows 9th is on time, so if you are just watching, the 10th is now 1 spin away from being late, so if its wait, there you are,its now overdue, missed for its avg to hit, but as you see its now in and on time for countback.
Now you can see that up to the 19th meet the avg of 2 spins.
We can see 20th is now late missed its avg of in,in 3 spins, even i dont know when its coming as i was just playing for the repeat in 10 spins, but its max is 10 spins, so 3 have gone, i could bet for 5 spins on FOBT so would get me to within 2 of its max if started to bet at spin 31.

WTF must be well up in spins 21-30
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 03:36 AM 2017
Well it went to its known max, 10 spins, if it was FOBT and went after the 3rd, i'd have lost.


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Big M theres 3 lots of 10/10 and i was up 1 unit each time, so now start with 4 units.

What about hotties, lots of R1 so how much is it costing till R2 came, now do you drop all R1's and concentrate on R2's, be betting 3 now
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 03:46 AM 2017
I'll stop here, as at spin 60 the avg for non-hit is 30.5, if thats the usual we need 9 more non-hit.
The R3 is in, but whether be up i dont know. If R2,16 is bet for 14 spins, R2,30 for 13 spins, the others 6,4 and 2 spins each, if thats 39 spins at £5 unit would that not be losing?


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 03:51 AM 2017
Now aint that 30 in 60 hard to believe


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 04:02 AM 2017
well if you was just watching you could get the 24th, as its missed its avg of 3, but the rest if you are just watching you would not get.

So -2 in 30 spins,spins 11-40, but spot on at 30/60,hard to accept those 7 on the bounce, but it happens, like 3 lots of 10/10, the 10/10 got my fingers burnt the other day the FOBT went 19 straight spins, but those 1st 10/10 missed for another 18,funny how it was repeating the #'s in spins 11-20 not 1-10, but then its FOBT, so is it crooked.


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 04:19 AM 2017
I wont go on, but +3 swings back the 15 in 30, and  theres the 30/60


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Only 2, 10/10's
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 04:29 AM 2017
look how fast this game is, the expected 15 are already in, just in favour of repeats in 10 spins, stands at 8 and 7 for 10/10


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 04:38 AM 2017
Doctor the 30 in 60 spins good eh

Only the 1,10/10


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 04:46 AM 2017
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Thats a couple of hours on MPR
So Big M it went 8/10, 10/10, 10/10, 10/10, 8/10, 10/10, 8/10, 10/10, 10/10, 8/10, 9/10, 9/10, 9/10, 9/10, 10/10, 8/10, 10/10, 9/10, 9/10, 10/10
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 05:02 AM 2017
As good as any place to post.
If you accept 15.7 or 15.8 non-hit come in spins 11-40 and 30.5 come in 60 spins.How can we use that info? building an avg document, but as 15 is half the 30 spins and then 30 is half the 60 spins, could one just bet for a Non-hit number every other spin?


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If you just bet on the even spin, think you have 16 wins, but how would you bet
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 05:08 AM 2017
2nd group of 60 spins from MPR


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 05:14 AM 2017
last 60


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 06:11 AM 2017
Heres Morts #'s, 1st 10 spins is 9/10, so what does the groups of 10 spins give, will it be like MPR, well not if previous days are taken in


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 06:14 AM 2017
well nothing like MPR even the 10/10 is a win with repeat of #6


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 14, 06:48 AM 2017
Big M
Morts #'s played with the repeat number being spin 1.
No loss in blocks of 10, but this way 2 losses, more bets but will it cover the 2 that lost


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Taotie on Jul 14, 11:27 AM 2017
friggin hell more charts?

they're green and they put me off my dinner.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: MumboJumbo on Jul 14, 01:37 PM 2017
Quote from: bigmoney on Jul 08, 09:32 PM 2017
Well we cant beat roulette
Betting dozens / colums
Black or red or other evens chances

Repeaters fail

Measuring distances fail
SO WHAT S LEFT ?????
IM OUTTA IDEAS
Nothing left for free.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 15, 07:18 AM 2017
Really nothing for free
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jul 15, 10:52 AM 2017
Quote from: bigmoney on Jul 08, 09:32 PM 2017

Repeaters fail


Don't give up hope about repeaters.

Ask Denzie and Nottop for additional guidance -- they seem to think that repeaters (or "hotties") are the way to go.
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: denzie on Jul 15, 02:52 PM 2017
I don't think. I'm sure. Not my idea though. But I do know I don't lose anymore.

Don't have to believe me...But if in the end it would fail....there's no better way to play (unless you cheat)
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 15, 04:28 PM 2017
So denzie
Where do i start with repeaters whats ur method ?
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 16, 05:41 AM 2017
Big M
can you see, i used a single unit,great start, then used 2 units not 5 as some might, then 3 units.
You can see i started with 1026, ended 1101.

Now last night i played this way again on MPR, starting with 557units, went up to 565, then 589, after some spins the usual happened ask maestro, game crashed, so quick reload page, watch the spin and another new number, now i forgot to relay the 3 units on those that had hit ie, hot and next spin win but i'd forgot the bet weren't on and now lower than the start of 557, but if it had not crashed i'd have had a new high like the game here posted,

not a green chart in sight
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 16, 06:24 AM 2017
Mort  :thumbsup:


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 16, 02:54 PM 2017
Hey notto
Will get to backtest this in about 12 hours time as just got home from holidays
Thank you for the info matey
You are a great man nottophammer
BIG MONEY
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 18, 04:17 AM 2017
Hotties now betting 8 if repeat breakeven


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Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 18, 12:47 PM 2017
Anyone see the above is todays Morts #'s


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Hows testing going Big M
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 19, 06:29 AM 2017
Do any of you know what morts #'s for today produced, using the above way, i do, so let me know what you reckon, does it win/lose
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Steve on Jul 19, 08:51 AM 2017
it takes a few seconds to know if an approach is the same losing approach repackaged
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: MumboJumbo on Jul 19, 09:56 AM 2017
link:s://youtu.be/byXKpRKc-Jo
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 19, 11:02 AM 2017
Quote from: Steve on Jul 19, 08:51 AM 2017
it takes a few seconds to know if an approach is the same losing approach repackaged
Same old answers. So its just use some hidden software  :question:
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 19, 11:05 AM 2017
Oh well just another repackage


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Look whats 2 spins away. Anyway repeats is just another string to the bow of winning at roulette
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: Ratwood85 on Jul 20, 01:12 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 19, 11:05 AM 2017
Oh well just another repackage


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Look whats 2 spins away. Anyway repeats is just another string to the bow of winning at roulette

Hi Notto, do you mind to share your betting progression ? all i see is you raise your bet +2u after a winning.
would you please share your playing style ? do u use stop loss / winning goal per session or whatelse.. but i know to applying this need a huge bankroll. Hope to hear from you soon Notto...

Thanks
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 20, 07:17 AM 2017
R 85 up 1 unit after a win.

Does morts #'s win today, R 85
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 20, 10:16 AM 2017
Ratwood 85 does morts numbers win, i can post the answer if you want
Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 20, 01:04 PM 2017
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2942.0
This is why we're here, if you look you find something new, stumbled on this, Brilliant

Title: Re: So whats left?
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 20, 05:06 PM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 20, 10:16 AM 2017
Ratwood 85 does morts numbers win, i can post the answer if you want
Ok been long enough for someone to give the answer, well here it comes


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look whats 5 spins away