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Title: Trojan 2
Post by: ignatus on Aug 06, 04:57 AM 2017
1-2 losses is acceptable out of 10 games (not more than that), ***using negative progression is always a risk***, (you've been warned)  :embarrassed: moneymanagement is the key.... This is just an idea, need help testing/tweaking(?) to see if this is playable at all..?? :question:

For Live-Wheels only.

Procedure: Wait for a hotnumber (a repeater from the last 10 spins) Now, you bet that hotnumber and it's 2 neighbours on the wheel (5 numbers bet, using that function all live-tables have) THEN you bet this particular sector, until Hit, or until Stoploss is reached.

Progression: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 6 7 8 9 11 12 14 16 19 STOP =670u Total loss

Stoploss: 670u (End of progressionline)
BR: 750-800u
Wingoal: +200u

(First tests was played with 1u bets),

9/10 Games won
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: probasah on Aug 06, 05:33 AM 2017
Quote from: ignatus on Aug 06, 04:57 AM 2017
1-2 losses is acceptable out of 10 games (not more than that), ***using negative progression is always a risk***, (you've been warned)  :embarrassed: moneymanagement is the key.... This is just an idea, need help testing/tweaking(?) to see if this is playable at all..?? :question:

For Live-Wheels only.

Procedure: Wait for a hotnumber (a repeater from the last 10 spins) Now, you bet that hotnumber and it's 2 neighbours on the wheel (5 numbers bet, using that function all live-tables have) THEN you bet this particular sector, until Hit, or until Stoploss is reached.

Progression: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 6 7 8 9 11 12 14 16 19 STOP =670u Total loss

Stoploss: 670u (End of progressionline)
BR: 750-800u
Wingoal: +200u

(First tests was played with 1u bets),

9/10 Games won
Hi Ignatus

I have to say i admire your dedication in inventing systems. I think you are a honest person and for that i will tell you why your bet wont work:
it uses progressions on a faulty bet selection. There is absolutely no advantage to any bet selection if it does not win flat bet. Its just mathematics.
Everything has laws, including the so called "random".
It is good that you are betting numbers. Keep on that track. Forget outside bets. Forget anything else but numbers. What is the base cell of the wheel? The individual number.
What is the base unit of progressions?1! FLAT BET
What happens on the wheel? Things REPEAT.

Use those three elements in your future endeavours.

A friendly advice from an unknown friend

Best regards,
Alex
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: ignatus on Sep 18, 09:14 PM 2017
There is always some smart-ass coming to discourage me when im into something good,.. >:(

now let's calculate on this example

losses 1*550= -550

wins 9*200= +1800

Total= +1250u

Now let's say i would have had one more loss:
That would be another let's say -600u, this would STILL give me 1250-600= +650u profit

So,? F*ck the hell of all of you disbelievers?? Now im getting tired of all these "roulette experts"??  :( .... goddamn
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: Buffster on Sep 18, 09:41 PM 2017
Ignatus

I also have always admired you for your hard efforts. BUT calling someone a SMART ASS because they give you some good advice is beyond acceptable behaviour.

I rarely chime in anymore but I still look around everyday.

I think you should probably take a break from roulette, I think it's affecting your judgement.

Best regards,

Buffster
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: Steve on Sep 18, 09:54 PM 2017
Ignatus theres a difference between trolls and people trying to help.

In the end if you are consistently winning, keep doing what you're doing. If you're gradually losing more, then it's wise to consider why.

Ps, short term tests tell you nothing. Test and you'll find even with random bets, sometimes the results are good, sometimes bad
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: ignatus on Sep 18, 10:33 PM 2017
OK, yes im sorry, but His "advice" (how good it may seems to be), really discouraged me, and i abandoned this system, (which i think is not so bad at all),...so i lost this system for awhile....thanks to HIM

Well, im sorry i should not react like that? But That was really off-topic, he could give his "advice" somewhere else,? not in my thread?  :( ...



Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: ignatus on Sep 18, 10:37 PM 2017
Test session 2. 1/5 losses is "acceptable" (not more)...in this new testings 4/5 Games won,

losses:
-553

wins:
+234
+206
+220
+226

Total= +333u
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: Steve on Sep 18, 10:50 PM 2017
Yes but try running the test again. Then again. Then again.
You will win some and lose some.

If the more you play, the closer you get to a slight loss, then it's unlikely the system is any better than random bets.
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 18, 11:00 PM 2017
You're doing great Ignatus. 

Consider the fact you're getting resistance from
people means you getting that much closer to the Grail.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: Steve on Sep 18, 11:10 PM 2017
Resistance doesn't mean you're getting closer. There is no resistance here anyway. All that happened is Probasah gave friendly and accurate advice to help, and it aggravated Ignatus.
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 18, 11:15 PM 2017
Just giving my opinion Steve

Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: ignatus on Sep 18, 11:51 PM 2017
thanks proof  8)

but now i broke even after 15 games  ;D still waiting for that 5/5 wins, that would be a +1000u we'll see!

Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: ignatus on Sep 19, 12:37 AM 2017
Thank you all, and thank you for letting me fail yet once again...(it was a valuable lesson!), now i should't  have digged this skeleton out of the wardrobe, so let it once again fall into oblivion...movning on...

=====
Test 3

losses:
-501
-651

wins:
+228
+212
+208

Total= -504u

=====
Test 4

losses:
-627

wins:
+203
+213
+209
+204

Total= +202u

=====
Test 5

losses:
-517
-645

wins:
+209
+209
+204

Total= -540u
======

Grand Total (20 Games)
+333
-504
+202
-540
=====
= -509u
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: Ratwood85 on Sep 19, 03:23 AM 2017
I think you are pushing out your luck too hard.. based on my experienced too.. gambling like playing minesweeper.. more step then closer to the bomb.. keep spirit bro..
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: ignatus on Sep 19, 03:46 AM 2017
Thanks Ratwood  :) i got another thing coming you'll see! :P
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: Ratwood85 on Sep 19, 04:58 AM 2017
i try this system and so far so good, your progression is for 24spins right ?? so i extend it to 30spins, after a number repeat in last 10spins, i wait for 6spins hope it didn't hit and start playing.
Title: Re: Trojan 2
Post by: ignatus on Sep 19, 05:17 AM 2017
Quote from: Ratwood85 on Sep 19, 04:58 AM 2017
i try this system and so far so good, your progression is for 24spins right ?? so i extend it to 30spins, after a number repeat in last 10spins, i wait for 6spins hope it didn't hit and start playing.

Alright, as long as you got the BR needed?,(To take a loss if the whole progressionline would be lost?) and yes waiting may be a good idea :) that would be a 36 step-attack  ^-^

Let me know how you're doin'