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Title: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 12, 12:26 PM 2017
is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit.
So what we need is a tester to test betting 9 random selected #'s against the remaining 9 non-hit #'s, so that means after the 28th non-hit comes, we start to bet those remaining 9 non-hit #'s, flat bet till a win, say over 1000 games of 74  spins, 2 cycles should have the last 9 non-hit played.

I await the answer, anybody.

Bet this will gradually get covered in dust, no answer will come.
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: boshkodj on Aug 12, 03:09 PM 2017
I can do it, but is there any logic behind it? I hope you understand coding takes time. If you do not give us any reasoning behind your assumptions, no one will do it.
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: falkor2k15 on Aug 12, 03:21 PM 2017
Not done a proper test, but I doubt there's any edge... (see attached)
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: Herby on Aug 12, 04:04 PM 2017
10000 games <= 74  spins

{{{1}, 24265}, {{2}, 18672}, {{3}, 14051}, {{4}, 10291},
{{5}, 7978}, {{6}, 6065}, {{7}, 4579}, {{8}, 3404}, {{9}, 2623},
{{10}, 1975}, {{11}, 1480}, {{12}, 1110}, {{13}, 844}, {{14}, 642},
{{15}, 482}, {{16}, 361}, {{17}, 281}, {{18}, 196}, {{19}, 157},
{{20}, 122}, {{21}, 104}, {{22}, 76}, {{23}, 57}, {{24}, 43},
{{25}, 36}, {{26}, 27}, {{27}, 15}, {{28}, 13}, {{29}, 10},
{{30}, 13}, {{31}, 9}, {{32}, 8}, {{33}, 2}, {{34}, 1}, {{35}, 2},
{{36}, 3}, {{38}, 2}, {{43}, 1}}

{{1}, 24265} ... 24265 hits in the 1. following spin
{{2}, 18672},... 18672 hits in the 2. following spin,    etc
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 12, 04:45 PM 2017
Nice thanks to all.
The reason small sample
420             games
29               non-hit
17               max spin

3.866667   avg to hit

1624           total spins




97              spin 1
83                      2
71
44
37
20
22
10
10
3
3
3
5
4
6
1
1                      17
0
0
0
0

Total spins =   1’624
#’s to bet   =    9
Games won = 420
you do the math
So when 28th hits,start to bet the 9 remaining untill a win, so bet flat the total spins over the 420 games,
1624*9 = 14616 the 420*36= 15120 be +504.

Is that correct, but would the long run catch it out, and is betting a random 9 better
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 12, 04:52 PM 2017
FOBT, RNG
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/08/12/temp_689862.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/LOVS)

2519 total spins
650 games
max to hit 23 spins
avg to hit 3.875 spins

+729
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 03:16 AM 2017
Herby
have you dropped a zero, 10000 games <= 74  spins
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: Herby on Aug 13, 03:51 AM 2017
Hi notto,
Zero is included
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 04:08 AM 2017
Thanks
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: Herby on Aug 13, 02:23 PM 2017
 :thumbsup:

Hi notto, this could be interesting for you:

link:://:.freewebs.com:80/turbogenius/daniel.htm (link:://:.freewebs.com:80/turbogenius/daniel.htm)

Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 02:49 PM 2017
Tried Heby says frozen,
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 05, 02:09 PM 2022
Quote from: boshkodj on Aug 12, 03:09 PM 2017
I can do it, but is there any logic behind it? I hope you understand coding takes time. If you do not give us any reasoning behind your assumptions, no one will do it.
boshkodj
Look at The subject of repeats. For years games get 16 repeats on average in 40 spins.
Even this forums troll the General gave 10'330 live spins and it gave repeats average of guess, 1-3-5-7=16 @ 40 spins.
But on R-sim, it gives only 11 repeats in 40 spins Tooooooooooooo often, meaning -5 for repeats.
Title: Re: is a random 9#'s better than the 9 remaining non-hit
Post by: Herbyx on Aug 23, 07:02 AM 2022
Simulation: 40 numbers from 0-36
100.000 runs:

Mean repeats 

1.13   in 10 numbers
4.39   in 20 numbers
9.26   in 30 numbers
15.36  in 40 numbers